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Hi Folks
I did search for this before posting..
I have a SGS andriod v.2.3.3. My phone is set up:
Using Stock samsung SMS, MMS and dialer interfaces.
GPS and WiFi Off (except when i need Wifi)
Background data and auto-sync OFF
Latitude Signed Out.
Yet for some reason Google Maps is always running, even if I force kill it, it still reboots after about 2 mins and its using 45% of my battery resources. My battery only lasts about 36 hours of casual light use and is on standby when im in bed.
I have been thinking of turning off "Use WIreless Networks", but do i need to?.
I dont use Google Maps, as i dont drive and dont really travel many places beyond work or friends. I very rarely if every use Pyont or latitude.
I do love this phone and I know Google like to know where and who you are, but is there any way of dumping or swtiching off google Maps and maybe switching to better Mapping, because even though i dont use GPS today, Im not saying I never will.
Many Thanks
Night
very strange. its not normal for google maps to do that. maybe you should try a new rom like jvq.
you can get rid of google maps entirely if you have root, just delete it from the system/apps folder. but i don't really reommend this. Im sure there must be another way to fix ur problem.
Ya i had the same problem since i last updated maps. Uninstalling the update did the trick
Download the Autostarts app. It can kill and app from staring up in various states, like just afer start up, switching connectivity (like wifi to 3G) and many others. You'd be surprised at what's running on your phone and when it starts up.
Many thanks for both replies...
Ill remove the update and report back., but give me a few days though .
There are many threads all over the web about this Google Maps problem, but ill have a look at the ROMs Thanks.
I did buy this phone pre-owned and just replaced the battery (official Samsung 1500mah one), but its still drinking it.
My HTC Wildfire got 5 days out of its battery with the settings above, to be fair, now that SamsungApps are buying up android apps such as Angry birds, accuweather & clock, Sms widgets & news.. I wonder if I need android at all.
A few questions..
Do I need "Use Wireless Networks" switched on for the phone itself. I have read of folk using GPS ON instead.
I do realise that google android powers the phone so dumping their maps may affect the phone & sms itself, but Is there an alternative to Google Maps, which whern active might deactivate theirs.
Thanks
Night
Thanks Devenblue4u.... sorry, you were typing as I was replying.. hehe. Will definetly try this because ReChild App Killer isnt that good.
Night
Ok, Ran a few battery tests and using the settings in my OP, I also turned off "Use Wireless Networks" and got the Battery to 3days, 17hours, which is good.
I did try the Autostarts app as well, but it kept locking uyp and resetting my phone.
I uninstalled Googles update, but that didnt help.
TO test I.. Force stop all the 3 instances of google Maps > Clear maps Cache > Turn off Wireless Networks, and this seems to stop Maps from searching my position.
Although this solves my battery issue, which is great.. It does just become a Samsung Wave, which means, I have to turn it all back on again to do any of the Galaxys good stuff, which makes me wonder if im not crippling my phone.
Any thoughts from anyone would be great
Cheers
Night
As suggested m8, flash another rom, look for something that has good reports in the thread comments, jvq as mentioned.
NightOrchid, there's nothing wrong with your phone. It's a bug in Google Maps since 5.4.0. If you check the user reviews on Android Market, you'll see that many people have the same problem. Mine also uses a chunk of the battery when I don't even use it. The phone reports that it keeps using the GPS with Latitude turned off. I have to force-stop it twice after restarting the phone.
Uncheck the network location and kill the Map's Network Location Service from running apps.
This worked for me on JVQ, Maps 5.7 (modded version for world navigation)
Try Autorun Manager if Autostarts failed. In Advanced mode, you can search for Maps and disable event triggers like startup, application removed, replaced and installed. And if it's running as service, don't kill it by task killer, use the built-in one, just force stop and you'll be okay.
Google Services Battery Drain
To all of you having Google Services battery drain, I think I found a fix.
With last Google Services update and the last Google Maps update, sometimes it drains almost half of total battery.
I myself have spent the last week trying to see what is happening with this topic, trying to find in every thread or forum across the internet: XDA, HTCMania, AndroidCentral and even Google official forums for this annoying topic. Posted in every forum I could and tried to find an easy way, but for some people, this bug doesn´t exist.
When I write "No Google Services battery drain", I mean that this is not appearing in the battery graph.
I made a clean install of my ROM with no sync from Google, so I could see what´s the source of such battery drain. I started to disabled the "Location Access" at Settings.
I started to install only Google Search and use device a couple of hours with it. Google Search/Google Now ask for the Google Services, so I installed and used it. The Google Settings app(the one with the green icon) had disabled the "Location History" and "Reporting Location". No Google Services battery drain.
I enabled the last two to see if this could be the culprit of the battery drain and used device for a couple of hours more. No Google Services battery drain.
Then I installed Google Maps and just enabled GPS in "Location Access" and used the device again. No Google Services battery drain.
After that, I enabled "Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location" on "Location Access" and then... Voilà!. Google Services started to appear in the battery graph.
I discovered that the drain come specifically from this option in Location settings: Settings > Location Access > Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location.
I left GPS Satellites checked and even with that, no more Google Services drain. All the drain come from the other option, and is more noticeable when you are connected to WiFi.
No need to disable other Location services nor other settings about locations, just leave that option unchecked and Google Services won´t even appear in the battery graph.
I have been running my device with all Locations settings enabled except the "Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location" and Google Services is not even show on battery graph.
Hope it helps.
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Android System Battery Drain
About Android System battery drains, I have found 2 posts that could help of people who made tests and possibly resolved the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44537106&postcount=7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44541018&postcount=5
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UPDATES
Aug 01, 2013 - I tried to install new Google Play Store and new Google Services framework and still is the same.
Aug 07, 2013 - Updated Google Services Framework to 3.2.25(Although Play Store says 3.0.25 is the last one) to test if enabling WiFi location has impact on battery. Reporting Location and Location History are disabled for this test.
Aug 08, 2013 - The battery drain has decreased a lot with latest update, it is now just 5% of total battery life until now(22hrs since charged). I ´m going to leave battery discharges and then make a new battery cycle with Reporting Location and Location History enabled to see if the problem is totally gone about location battery drains.
Aug 09, 2013 - It´s been 5 hours since I unplugged phone from charger, I have Google Services at 10% of my battery and my Screen with 30 mins. At first, Google Services drain showed 20% on the battery graph for the first hour I think, and then it seems to decrease and stay normal again. I will post tomorrow the final results. Remember that for this test I´m having enabled all the possibly Location settings on phone(both Google Now settings and Location Access settings).
Aug 10, 2013 - The first battery cycle was ok, with all the Location settings enabled both in Settings and in Google Now, gave me a total of 8% battery drain in a full day, most of the time in 3G and not in WiFi like the other tests I did. It seems that new update of Google Play Services helped a lot with this drains, because the drain of Google Services is still below of the System itself. I will report later when the battery life improve, because first cycles are always bad in terms of battery life.
Aug 12, 2013 - It seems that the battery drain problem is fixed with last update. I made 2-3 battery cycles and the drain at the end is the same, around 7%-10%, something that looks normal and below when comparing to the "Phone Idle" or "Android System" battery drain. Of course you can disable the Location options, specially the WiFi Location option to make the Google Services battery drain be lower, but people is reporting Google Now and other apps not working properly. Maybe is the way that Android 4.3 works now. Still the battery is still improved from Android 4.2.2, so I´m quite happy right now with the tests and the results.
Aug 13, 2013 - Here are the results for the tests. I maybe should call these results the final ones, until something else happens. The screenshots are pretty self explanatory. The first one is about the battery drain over night, and the other two about the battery life at the end of the day.
Aug 21, 2013 - I made a full wipe and clean installation of PA 3.97 to test if drain could be also ROM sided fro any reason, but the news is that with a clean installation and latest updates for every Google product, the drain is the same fro Google Services(around 5%-8%). For all the previous test I was using pure AOSP build.
Sep 09, 2013 - Some users reported that latest updates are making the problem reappear, so I link the post with the latest free drain version of Google Now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45332135&postcount=161.
Sep 13, 2013 - I have installed PSX ROM with PSX GAPPS(based on BaNkS) and the Google Services drain is the same, around 5%-8% after a normal usage day. I don't report any problem.
Sep 20, 2013 - I have flashed Purity ROM and Purified Kernel and the Google Services drain is a little bit higher, around 10%, but still have good battery and performance.
Sep 24, 2013 - The opportunity now is for PSX v7 with default kernel(SiMa). Google Services drain is behaving normally, around 10%. It seems that the last update from September increased a little the Google Services wakelock. Still is performing well and it is a decent drain.
Sep 30, 2013 - Added some useful information and solution from user 511pf: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46054200&postcount=227
Oct 24, 2013 - I flashed PSX 8.2 with default kernel, a very battery friendly and balanced kernel. Google Services drain is good, around 8%.
Oct 30, 2013 - I make a clean install of PSX 8.5 with new kernel and Google Services still are around 8%. No major problems with them.
Nov 12, 2013 - I came back to stock to wait for the Android 4.4 update, and the Google Services remain the same: around 7%. No major issues presented and battery drain over night is around 5% for 9 hours.
FINAL UPDATE: Nov 23, 2013 - I flashed stock image for Android 4.4 and Play Services drain reappeared. The problem is, after some researching, that KitKat has "modes" for location settings. There are 3 modes: high precision, battery friendly and device only. The first two drain battery as hell, but the third one makes the Play Services drain completely gone. With this in mind, widgets and Google Now are still fully functional, just Near Places is not available as well as some apps that need location, because it will work with just the GPS. My battery has greatly increased after I made this change.
I won't be continuing with this thread because I already sold my Nexus 4 and I got a Nexus 5, so I'm moving on. I will ask a moderator if it possible to make this thread a sticky thread so it will continue to be available to all the Nexus 4 users.
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NEW GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
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sweet! i'll test and confirm that soon.
i'll leave the GPS on, but the wifi off. (GPS will stay off even if checked because i barely use it)
and yes, you are right, in betterbatterystats, i get alot of location checking, and my country doesn't even support location reporting
Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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mine no, I'm waiting for the stable versiob of PAC ROM.
So meanwhile, I'm going for this solution
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Srikks said:
Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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mine no, I'm waiting for the stable versiob of PAC ROM.
So meanwhile, I'm going for this solution
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Yesterday I did a full wipe of my phone(even sdcard) and restored everything from scratch to stock 4.2.2 image, and then update came to 4.3 few minutes later.
As far as I know, the problem still persists because in the time I was making wizard and setting up all the options for every app I have, I was seeing battery drain with the WiFi Location option enabled and when I finished setting up all, the Google Services drain was about 20% in a time of 2 hours.
I disabled the option, and currently I don´t have this drain again, but it is just the first day, so I will enable it today and will report tonight with results.
It is 9:00AM exactly now, I´m enabling the option now.
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Srikks said:
Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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mine no, I'm waiting for the stable versiob of PAC ROM.
So meanwhile, I'm going for this solution
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These are the results, the drain is still there although it is not much in 4.3. I have say to say that battery improvement is huge in this new version, so maybe this could matters directly with the drain.
I think still that is better to uncheck that option is not needed, so 10% of your battery or more won't be affected by this wakelock.
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Guys I am facing such extremely annoying Google Services (DownloadManager in BBS) battery drain + mobile/wifi data usage issue and I have been searching for some hours.
First of all I have tried the most answered solution - clearing the data of all those stuffs related to Google Services - well it did not work so well.
Then I don't think freezing download manager / factory reset / restrict background data / disabling google services framework are good solutions as I myself did not make changes related to this recently so a factory reset should not be needed, plus the other mentioned solutions would cause syncing issues with Google and this doesn't suit my lifestyle of heavily depending on various google services.
Many of you have proposed that the massive download / repeated downloads are related to downloading the 4.3 OTA and that might be possible according to the similar file sizes as well as logcats you have found. But on the other hand one of the solution - disabling Network Locations settings has also stopped the "download" triangle from constantly staying there when my wifi is on. Therefore we can conclude that it is partially related to the 4.3 OTA download which cannot be disabled on our custom ROMs, as well as partially about the stock Network Location settings.
Fortunately after many posts that do not provide a feasible answer I have found this xda post which addresses the issue related to the Google Play Store 4.1.6. Some of the users have reported that 4.1.10 has fixed the issue and some even said the newest version 4.2.9 is over the internet since 25/7 together with 4.3 update.
Not sure why such critical update did not roll out to the unluckily bunch of us from Google, but I have found the Android Police source about 4.1.10 fixing the "Network Location bug which hogs the battery" and hopefully this will stop the DownloadManager wakelock as well as the crazy battery drain + data drain by Google Services.
I haven't tested this thoroughly because I will probably need a day to check out whether it stops the crazy behaviour but I would just like to share with you guys my founding as soon as possible so you guys can try it out together with me. The latest Google Play Store 4.2.9 apk can be downloaded from Android Police here.
Hope I have helped! Good luck to you and me!
PS sorry for the duplicating post in the same Q&A forum of N4 but I really want to help as many people as possible.
downloading latest playstore... will test... and btw, greenifying google services won't break sync
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Miasmic said:
Guys I am facing such extremely annoying Google Services (DownloadManager in BBS) battery drain + mobile/wifi data usage issue and I have been searching for some hours.
First of all I have tried the most answered solution - clearing the data of all those stuffs related to Google Services - well it did not work so well.
Then I don't think freezing download manager / factory reset / restrict background data / disabling google services framework are good solutions as I myself did not make changes related to this recently so a factory reset should not be needed, plus the other mentioned solutions would cause syncing issues with Google and this doesn't suit my lifestyle of heavily depending on various google services.
Many of you have proposed that the massive download / repeated downloads are related to downloading the 4.3 OTA and that might be possible according to the similar file sizes as well as logcats you have found. But on the other hand one of the solution - disabling Network Locations settings has also stopped the "download" triangle from constantly staying there when my wifi is on. Therefore we can conclude that it is partially related to the 4.3 OTA download which cannot be disabled on our custom ROMs, as well as partially about the stock Network Location settings.
Fortunately after many posts that do not provide a feasible answer I have found this xda post which addresses the issue related to the Google Play Store 4.1.6. Some of the users have reported that 4.1.10 has fixed the issue and some even said the newest version 4.2.9 is over the internet since 25/7 together with 4.3 update.
Not sure why such critical update did not roll out to the unluckily bunch of us from Google, but I have found the Android Police source about 4.1.10 fixing the "Network Location bug which hogs the battery" and hopefully this will stop the DownloadManager wakelock as well as the crazy battery drain + data drain by Google Services.
I haven't tested this thoroughly because I will probably need a day to check out whether it stops the crazy behaviour but I would just like to share with you guys my founding as soon as possible so you guys can try it out together with me. The latest Google Play Store 4.2.9 apk can be downloaded from Android Police here.
Hope I have helped! Good luck to you and me!
PS sorry for the duplicating post in the same Q&A forum of N4 but I really want to help as many people as possible.
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downloading latest playstore... will test... and btw, greenifying google services won't break sync
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Don't lose your time with that article. Drain happened to me with Google Play Store 4.1.10 and also with Google Play Store 4.2.9. I was a completely week trying to install every Play Store I could and never worked.
Indeed most of test were made with 4.2.9, and the only way I could stop Google Services to appear in the battery graph was unchecking the option I mentioned before. At least for me, this is the only thing it worked to stop this.
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Don't lose your time with that article. Drain happened to me with Google Play Store 4.1.10 and also with Google Play Store 4.2.9. I was a completely week trying to install every Play Store I could and never worked.
Indeed most of test were made with 4.2.9, and the only way I could stop Google Services to appear in the battery graph was unchecking the option I mentioned before. At least for me, this is the only thing it worked to stop this.
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Same here. Only way was to disable the WiFi location. No fix in sight until Google decides to fix it themselves
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Turning this off means Google Now will stop working.
It is useful sometimes though...so if anyone knows of an alternative way...
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aeoveu said:
Turning this off means Google Now will stop working.
It is useful sometimes though...so if anyone knows of an alternative way...
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Google Now won´t stop working, because it still has access to location, but not being pushing and receiving data all the time, what makes the wakelock and the battery drain.
I have only that option unchecked and still having functional Google Now, but just to note that there will be a warning saying that locations settings are not optimized or something like that. Also in Google Maps happens the same, but still we have the GPS if app uses any location.
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Google Now won´t stop working, because it still has access to location, but not being pushing and receiving data all the time, what makes the wakelock and the battery drain.
I have only that option unchecked and still having functional Google Now, but just to note that there will be a warning saying that locations settings are not optimized or something like that. Also in Google Maps happens the same, but still we have the GPS if app uses any location.
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Well, for me, it asked me to enable location settings in order to use maps and Google now (I don't use GPS cause it doesn't work indoors here...we have houses and buildings made of concrete).
Did you enable WiFi location scanning after disabling Google apps location access? I can't get a location in Google now.
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Here's what I get.
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put access to my location on, the untick wifi and keep gps on.
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But for that, GPS needs to work indoors, right?
My GPS chip was fired up. :s
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aeoveu said:
Well, for me, it asked me to enable location settings in order to use maps and Google now (I don't use GPS cause it doesn't work indoors here...we have houses and buildings made of concrete).
Did you enable WiFi location scanning after disabling Google apps location access? I can't get a location in Google now.
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Here's what I get.
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Riro Zizo said:
put access to my location on, the untick wifi and keep gps on.
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But for that, GPS needs to work indoors, right?
My GPS chip was fired up. :s
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About the GPS, you are right in the part that GPS won't easily lock indoors, but this is maybe the price we have to pay to have a really good battery. Remember that this is just a work-around to this bug, not a fix. Google is the one who should make a fix in future releases for this insane battery drain.
With 4.3, I'm able to obtain a full day without a charge leaving all the location settings enabled, but although Google Services drain is around 15%, it constantly keeps the device active and consume battery .
You should consider enabling the Wifi Location option just when you need it, because is what I do. I barely use the location settings for anything, but when I need it for any app, I just enable the option, make what I have to do, and then disabled it to keep battery.
Below I share my battery stats with the tip I just wrote.
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Anyone tried the latest version. It doesn't show on updates so you have to go to direct link. Touch wood it has improved things for me so far.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
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Anyone tried the latest version. It doesn't show on updates so you have to go to direct link. Touch wood it has improved things for me so far.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
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I´m testing right now the new version and see if there is any change about the drain to make the feedback.
One weird thing I noticed is this link is showing 3.0.25 as the latest, but I have on my phone 3.2.25 installed.
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@stuart0001
It seems that new Google Services update helped a lot with the drain. Right now, the drain is only 5% with 22 hours of battery life.
So, I'm rooted on VZW with no OTA and suddenly had abnormal battery drain today. Any idea why this may be happening?
Mine is kinda high today as well. I saw something about Google having issues today with email and other applications. This could be related, or phones can't connect to Google so it just keeps on trying.
Sounds nice but don't know if it's true or not.
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Install Greenify. Hibernate all the APPs that you don't want notification from first. This app doesn't allow APPs to Wakelock you're phone. Once you find which offending account is the issue you'll be ok. I found that Facebook woke up my phone thousands of times and I have up notifications. Best choice ever ?
This app requires root and free in the app store.
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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
As far as the google services battery drain, I eliminated that by simply turning off google location services. The actual GPS is so quick to lock that I haven't run into a scenario yet where I'd absolutely need to turn it back on.
My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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With 15:34 for time on, and 1:45 of screen on time, I'm currently at exactly 50% battery. I feel it was something awry with Google Services yesterday and an isolated issue. Location services were off today, but I did nothing with Greenify, yet at least.
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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Yeah I had the same problem, yesterday. I was having Google services use ~60% of battery life. Surprisingly I still got all day battery life.
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Didn't know that but knowledge is good! :good:
shekinahsmoke said:
My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.
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How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.
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works great today..... google services error has gone away today and my battery life seems longer. :good:
I just froze google play services and will look at the battery stats later to report the difference. What apps are affected by freezing this though? It seems Hangouts is one.
I don't know why, but all my days are pretty much exactly the same location-wise and some days have huge wakelocks, others don't.
Aside from installing the play store services which seemed to help quite a bit, I've also noticed a nice drop in wakelocks since I went on to Google's Location History dashboard (https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0/dashboard?hl=en) and deleted all my history so maybe it could re-create it.
One thing I've noticed is that on high-wakelock days, my GPS is going nutso. My point markers on that dashboard will have me moving ALL OVER the place, even while I'm just sitting at my desk at work.
This leads me to the conclusion that signal plays a huge role, and I do have bad signal at work (1 bar, and can't get a good GPS lock at my desk).
Also, you can minimize these wakelocks without the use of Greenify by simply turning off Location Reporting and Location Using WiFi and Mobile Networks. This dropped my wakelocks to pretty much 0, immediately. But you'll lose things like weather widget geolocation and some Google Now features. On the other hand, this is a more viable option than freezing services which can cause you to lose push notifications for GMail among other things.
I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.
iowabowtech said:
I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.
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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.
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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.
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You are correct, there's the first casualty confirmed. I'm going to run like this for a few days and see what gives. I don't use the cards anyway so no issue there. If anyone knows of other functionality loss, please speak up.
Like some of you have said, I don't rely on Google Now cards, and I don't leave the city I'm in, so for things like weather, I am find with the hourly syncing of my weather app. If I do need GPS/location services, it's not hard to toggle and battery life is incredible. I feel it was just something going rogue the other day. Today, with locaiton off, I've been off the charger for 15:34 with 1:24 screen on time and I'm at 58%. I spent a good portion of today in a sub-basement on airplane mode, with wifi active in the background though. Walking around campus, I used Songza via 4G due to some wifi weak spots. I can't be happier with this phone, as my GNex would have long since been dead, even on airplane mode.
EDIT: Holy ****, 15:34 sounded familiar, checked my post from yesterday, I responded then at the same time off the charger...
Okay so I may have fixed it on my phone.
I forced closed "Google Play Services" and "Google Devices Framework" then rebooted.
Google services was using it 50% of battery consistently through the day and now its down to using 2% of battery. I'll come back at the end of the day with battery stats.
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this night was a pain.... the phone was on 83 and when i wake it was on 76..... google services was draining all my battery, who could fix this?
Edit: Sorry its sys_async_ev_wakelock. This kernel wakelock along with PowerManagerService.WakeLocks which stays on ALL the time has been causing battery drain. I was on 4.3 earlier with PA 3.66 RC-2 and Franco R193 so i thought maybe its kernel issues but just now i just wiped my entire phone and installed official factory image of 4.4 by Google and i am still getting the same wakelock ! I uninstalled all 3rd Party apps. Force stopped Google Play Services, Google Search , Maps , Youtube, Google+ , Hangouts and Chrome too. Still getting those wakelocks . Cant figure out what is wrong. I even tried turning off WiFI and Cellular Data but still no change
Update: Also tried turning Auto Sync on and off .. still no change ..
I tried searching Google for battery drain related to Play Services. Up until my phone had official KitKat, even with CM11, the battery drain from play services was never this horrendous (about 36% battery usage).
The only thing I could find besides version 4.4 was the "fix" for battery drain related to location was that some Sony devices, upon upgrading to KitKat, suffered similar problems with battery.
I've come to the conclusion the RAZR HD/MAXX HD suffer from the same issue.
Downloading BetterBatteryStats I found when GPS was the only way of doing location services, the battery drain is ~1% an hour. When I had high accuracy or battery savings mode, the drain was ~3.5% an hour. This is the EXACT issue that the Xperia devices are suffering from.
So, for all those on KitKat who are experiencing battery drain, try switching to Device Only. This will utilize only GPS satellites to determine location. You will lose location based stuff in Google Now, suck as traffic or weather but your battery will last much longer.
I looked through and didn't see anything about this in any other thread, so I decided to make a new one. Hopefully Google updates Play Services to be a bit more friendly with LTE and WiFi location settings soon (I'm looking at you, I/O).
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Another potential way around this is possibly using the Greenify app, if you're rooted. You'll also have to donate ($2.99 USD) but it's well worth it if you ask me. I actually used my Amazon Coins to donate that way.
With a donated version, you can hibernate system apps, but you have to be careful because hibernating certain system apps could cause other apps to no longer work (which is easy to fix - just unhibernate them). But, this is different from freezing apps. Freezing an app means you've disabled it. What Greenify does is prevent the phone from starting up apps when the screen is off (wake lock). But, you can launch the app yourself and it will fire up (albeit maybe a little slower since it wasn't pre-loaded) and then when the screen goes back off, Greenify will hibernate the apps again.
This is another way to stop apps from firing up when you're not using your phone. I've noticed Google Play services going nuts one time. A reboot cured it, but I wasn't sure what apps would have been using it. I've since Greenified some regular apps and I haven't seen it happen again.
But, Greenify is definitely something to look at. The non-donation version only allows you to greenify non-system apps, but even for those, it works really well.
You can get it at Google Play or at Amazon App store.
I haven't got issues with battery drain at the moment but I bookmarked this link of reddit and maybe it help you.
Sorry for the English
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1zxri4/google_play_services_battery_drain_the_real/
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I believe I read that thread, too. It is helpful to understand that Google Now is really what's killing the battery. I've noticed that the battery life is one again incredible on my phone after changing to device only. This allows me to still use navigation if necessary and also allows my weather extension in DashClock to work because the one I installed allows the phone to read GPS location instead of relying on my network location. So for now while I lose traffic updates and weather updates through the Google search app, it's not SO bad. I seriously hope they modify the number of times that Google pings for your location or figure out how to cause less drain on the battery, because I find the location stuff incredibly useful at times.
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Looking through the time line today saw this thread and remembered this app. Hopefully its helpfull