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So I just returned my Note 4

Overall, a very good phone, and I'm a fan of the Note series (I have a Note 8 tablet). Some touchwiz lag but not horrible, great build, battery life was ok. Nevertheless, it wasn't any more responsive than my G2 and the battery life seemed worse for me. after 8 days of use.
What really did it for me was the locked down nature of the phone (Verizon - sigh). Even of we eventually get root, the problems with moving to Android 5 just weren't worth the trouble for me when I have the Nexus 6 on the horizon. For me, the benefits of an open phone outweighed the cool features of the Note, and I just use my tablet for S-Pen functionality anyways.
I found myself wishing for the G2 - responsiveness and customized exactly the way I want it - Rom and bootloader.
For now my wife has the G2 (which she now loves) and I don't want to take it back from her, so I'm stuck with my old Galaxy Nexus for the next few weeks, but hey, I'm running it customized to exactly the way I like it because its completely open.

dpaul01 said:
Overall, a very good phone, and I'm a fan of the Note series (I have a Note 8 tablet). Some touchwiz lag but not horrible, great build, battery life was ok. Nevertheless, it wasn't any more responsive than my G2 and the battery life seemed worse for me. after 8 days of use.
What really did it for me was the locked down nature of the phone (Verizon - sigh). Even of we eventually get root, the problems with moving to Android 5 just weren't worth the trouble for me when I have the Nexus 6 on the horizon. For me, the benefits of an open phone outweighed the cool features of the Note, and I just use my tablet for S-Pen functionality anyways.
I found myself wishing for the G2 - responsiveness and customized exactly the way I want it - Rom and bootloader.
For now my wife has the G2 (which she now loves) and I don't want to take it back from her, so I'm stuck with my old Galaxy Nexus for the next few weeks, but hey, I'm running it customized to exactly the way I like it because its completely open.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I have until this coming Wednesday to return my Note 4. I've previously owned the Note 2 & 3, and overall, I'm happy with the 4, especially the camera. But the thought of no root, especially after the 5.0 update, has me concerned. Am hoping to see some real reviews on the N6 soon. If the camera performance can come close to the Note 4, I'll make the switch.
An additional thought. Since I took advantage of the $200 BB trade-in promotion, I only paid $99 for my Note 4 (plus tax). If I return the device, I'll lose the $200 credit. Might just keep the Note 4 and give it to a family member and buy the N6 full price.

I am with you I gave my wife my note 4 and took her note 3 until nexus comes out for some reasons I felt it's over whelming.

I want the note 4 also but it will kill me if it can't be rooted or is a pain in the ass to root. My second choice is the nexus 6. Are nexus devices usually easy for the devs to root and unlock bootloader even on verizon? Do you think the battery of the nexus 6 will last all day with its big screen?

Nexus is always easy to root.
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ucsdsig13 said:
I'm in the same boat as you. I have until this coming Wednesday to return my Note 4. I've previously owned the Note 2 & 3, and overall, I'm happy with the 4, especially the camera. But the thought of no root, especially after the 5.0 update, has me concerned. Am hoping to see some real reviews on the N6 soon. If the camera performance can come close to the Note 4, I'll make the switch.
An additional thought. Since I took advantage of the $200 BB trade-in promotion, I only paid $99 for my Note 4 (plus tax). If I return the device, I'll lose the $200 credit. Might just keep the Note 4 and give it to a family member and buy the N6 full price.
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Returned my Note 4 to Best Buy yesterday and still received the $200 gift card. Pretty good to make $200 for trying out the phone. [emoji12]
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NICEGYPT said:
Nexus is always easy to root.
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So is the note 4, its even easier actually...as long as you're not on Verizon or AT&T.

NICEGYPT said:
Nexus is always easy to root.
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Well that's good. Hopefully the battery is good and I'll be happy

We already have a thread discussing the Note 4... Please continue discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
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Note 5, s7 Edge or Note 7?

So, I'm due an upgrade. A certain electronics dealer (not sure if it would be against the rules to name them) is running 2 promos: 1) Get a Note 5: get a $250 gift card at time of purchase. 2) Get any of the s7devices (Edge/Note too) and get a free 32" Sammy Smart TV. I don't really need the tv but the mother in law could use it. So, I literally cannot decide which to get. They have pros and cons all around. I'm a trucker, so my concern about the Edge's display is whether the glare along that curve would be annoying or distracting. My wife's s7 hasn't lagged yet, but reviews of both Notes mention lag (precious few reviews of Note 5 after MM update). Most reviews can't call a clear-cut "pick this one." And so, the freebies enter the equation. What do you guys think? I'm sure some of you had the 5. Do you think the 7 is significantly better? That it performs better?

Depends, I have been a note fan for along time. I use the s pen a bunch, and love the 5.7 inch screen size. I would say if you ate a note fan , and use the s pen a lot then go with the note 7. If you don't use the pen the the s7(or edge) would be good. I had the note 5 as my daily phone for a year, it's a solid phone, but the note 7 is better. The IP68 rating is awesome and I take the note 7 everywhere without worry about the weather. The battery performance is soo much better than the note 5 as well. I also was able to get the 256gb SD card for the Note 7 and its been great to be able to have all my music in my phone again. Hope this helps.
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Sorry for lateness of reply. I've been testing an s7 Edge and an iPhone 6s+ to see if either is a suitable "upgrade." Can't do the iPhone. It's just too limiting. BUT since the Note 7 is officially done for, is the Note 5 "just as good?" I use the S Pen semi-regularly, but it isn't essential. I can do what I do without it. So I'm down to these 3 phones: s7 Edge which is ok but I'm UNimpressed with its performance. Seriously. I expected better, for some reason. LG v20 which is costly and even the AT&T rep was telling me "I've had literally 10 LG V10s returned in 6 months for manufacturing flaws." I asked her to elaborate and she said "Screen issues. Lines and such." Or the Note 5. If the s7 isn't flawless IMO, then how can a half generation older device be any better? Any input is appreciated.

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is the Note 5 "just as good?"
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I think it depends who you ask, and of course what you want to use it for. It isn't a bad device, but to give you an idea, I skipped the Note 5 in favor of my Note 4 at the time because of the removable battery and no SD card. The Note 7 however, was new enough to get me over to the other side and give the "no removable battery" a go (one of the added reasons was also the 256 GB SD card lol).
Right now, my personal options for a new phone are Pixel, V20, S7 Edge or back to my old Note 4 for the time being. And in all honesty, unless I like how the S7 Edge feels within a cover, I'll likely end up with my Note 4 again. I need the space an SD slot can provide me, and well, I'm still kind of hooked to the idea of being able to remove a battery and put a new one in

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I think it depends who you ask, and of course what you want to use it for. It isn't a bad device, but to give you an idea, I skipped the Note 5 in favor of my Note 4 at the time because of the removable battery and no SD card. The Note 7 however, was new enough to get me over to the other side and give the "no removable battery" a go (one of the added reasons was also the 256 GB SD card lol).
Right now, my personal options for a new phone are Pixel, V20, S7 Edge or back to my old Note 4 for the time being. And in all honesty, unless I like how the S7 Edge feels within a cover, I'll likely end up with my Note 4 again. I need the space an SD slot can provide me, and well, I'm still kind of hooked to the idea of being able to remove a battery and put a new one in
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Like you, I held off on the 5 because of those issues. But I'm not a huge fan of the edges/curves. There's not a case on the market that provides decent protection for it simply due to the design. To make matters worse, Zagg pulled its tempered glass protectors because they weren't staying on. Haven't found one yet that does. Functionally, it's an awful design. It's easily broken. The v20 is an option, but it's really expensive, and I just can't justify that for an LG. They don't deserve it. I've never had luck with LG devices lasting. I'm not even remotely interested in the Pixel, but my Note 4 screen has burn-in. The s7 Edge isn't awful, but I was hoping for more in terms of performance. I may just return this one and get a regular s7.

The closest thing to the note 7 is the note 5.. I'm actually using both of them till I return my note 7..lol

I got the N5 when it came out, i was hesitant about the battery and memory (reason i got the 64gb) but i have had no issues. Im glad i didn't sell it. Its in perfect condition.
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keithfrombm said:
The v20 is an option, but it's really expensive, and I just can't justify that for an LG. They don't deserve it. I've never had luck with LG devices lasting.
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Hmm, I think that's a bit the thing. While I have read others saying similar things, I never had any issues with LG Prada that I had when it first came out. I loved that phone at the time.. but granted, it's also the only LG I ever owned so I don't really know for sure how the brand holds up with other models.

I bought an LG TV & Sound plate, and have owned a G2 & Tab 7.0. only the Tab 7 still works. Also, WAAAAY back in the day I had an LG Vu (in the pre-smart phone era). The $200 rebate helps lean me towards it.

keithfrombm said:
I bought an LG TV & Sound plate, and have owned a G2 & Tab 7.0. only the Tab 7 still works. Also, WAAAAY back in the day I had an LG Vu (in the pre-smart phone era). The $200 rebate helps lean me towards it.
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There's a rebate on the V20 with ATT? If so, that may just be it for me to get pulled into it.

svache said:
There's a rebate on the V20 with ATT? If so, that may just be it for me to get pulled into it.
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You have to trade in a paid off smartphone with a minimum value of $5. LOL I'm serious.

keithfrombm said:
You have to trade in a paid off smartphone with a minimum value of $5. LOL I'm serious.
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Hmm... darnit, I wish I didn't destroy a bunch of old smartphones a few months ago. Unsure if there's anything left besides my trusty Note 4... not really feeling like giving that phone up (plus it will get as much if not more when I sell it second hand).. imagine something like the Note 7 debacle happens again lol
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Hmm just quickly checked.. still have to Galaxy S's (the first one)... guess I could get rid of those lol
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Hmm it seems I have a few more old phones, but they're all older than the S and unsure if they are all qualified to them as "smartphone", I even still have the LG Prada lol

Att charges 830 for the v20 and T-Mobile charges 750. Att is a rip off.

borijess said:
Att charges 830 for the v20 and T-Mobile charges 750. Att is a rip off.
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I agree, ATT is a lot more expensive, not just phones but also with the plans. Sadly it's also the only one (together with Verizon, but I want GSM for my trips to Europe so no chance I go to them) that has decent coverage in my state. T-mobile really lacks when it comes to coverage, their customer service isn't that great either in all honesty. The price is right, I agree, if only they had decent coverage then I could live with it I guess.

This might be good for us.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/

borijess said:
This might be good for us.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/
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What about those that just stayed with their old Note 5. This is interesting. No point in me going to a s7 when i still have a perfect N5. Hope im not screwed for not jumping to the s7
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mayonesa01 said:
What about those that just stayed with their old Note 5. This is interesting. No point in me going to a s7 when i still have a perfect N5. Hope im not screwed for not jumping to the s7
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I am thinking of holding on to the note 7 shut it off and use my one plus 3 until the s8 arrives. Then I will exchange for a s7 edge.

I wanted to hold out with my N7 but when they banned them on flights I figured just switch and deal with it...I went with the s7 edge because it was the closest to the N7...I've had it a few weeks now and it's okay. does most of the things the N7 did...I am unhappy with the screen size and do wish I had the stylus...Battery life is similar..But I do feel like I have gone backwards...
I have been calling ATT cust service and my local store trying to convince them to let me get the upgrade when the N8/S8 comes out but they wont...so I'm unhappy I'm locked into this Next contract with a year old phone..
I read Samsung may be doing upgrade offers to the N8 for N7 owners so there is still hope....
This S7 edge is an okay replacement to get us thru but its not a N7....

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I wanted to hold out with my N7 but when they banned them on flights I figured just switch and deal with it...I went with the s7 edge because it was the closest to the N7...I've had it a few weeks now and it's okay. does most of the things the N7 did...I am unhappy with the screen size and do wish I had the stylus...Battery life is similar..But I do feel like I have gone backwards...
I have been calling ATT cust service and my local store trying to convince them to let me get the upgrade when the N8/S8 comes out but they wont...so I'm unhappy I'm locked into this Next contract with a year old phone..
I read Samsung may be doing upgrade offers to the N8 for N7 owners so there is still hope....
This S7 edge is an okay replacement to get us thru but its not a N7....
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You're not necessarily locked into it though.. if you have the Next 12, and if you still have several months to go until the 12 months, you could pay forward to get the upgrade. The rules are pretty much saying that it needs to be paid for 12 months, not that you cannot upgrade for 12 months. Meaning, you pay a few months extra (let's say it comes out in august, you would have to pay 2-3 months extra probably). It isn't a favorable option since the phone you're essentially renting from them becomes more expensive to rent, but I have had it confirmed by an ATT rep that this is indeed possible to do.

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You're not necessarily locked into it though.. if you have the Next 12, and if you still have several months to go until the 12 months, you could pay forward to get the upgrade. The rules are pretty much saying that it needs to be paid for 12 months, not that you cannot upgrade for 12 months. Meaning, you pay a few months extra (let's say it comes out in august, you would have to pay 2-3 months extra probably). It isn't a favorable option since the phone you're essentially renting from them becomes more expensive to rent, but I have had it confirmed by an ATT rep that this is indeed possible to do.
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I'm on the Next 30....I'll call ATT tomorrow and see if I can switch to the 12...ur right it's a better option altho i guess a little more expensive...

Giving up the Note 5 for a S7 Edge. Worth it?

I've gone through quite a few refurb phones and this last one they wanted to give me was filthy, had scratches, over all it was in bad shape. I wanted to exchange that for a new one but as it turns out, the Note 5 32/64gb has been discontinued! I already have an S7 edge and I still prefer my Note 5 but with the problems I've been having, it being discontinued, I feel like the safer route here would be to get a S7 Edge. Part of me wonders if I should go with the V20 instead. They have offered to transfer the balance over from the Note 5 (300 bucks) over to the new S7 Edge so I would not be paying full price for it. Thoughts?

I would keep the note 5, and wait for s8

I'm about to get rid of my S7 and go to the Note 5.

Well, I went from the Note 7 to the S7 Edge and I'm very pleased with the phone. The signal seems to be pretty good and the latest update has enabled 256 QAM and 64 QAM.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-mimo-256qam-technologies-faster-data-speeds/

I wouldn't beta testing for nougat closed 3 seconds after it opened lock bootloader I'm going somewhere else Samsung should be licking are nuts

Don't get the note 5, it sucks. I hated it so much, no sd card and only 32gb, battery life terrible. You will be good with the s7 edge, mine has finally grown on me and I couldn't go with another phone as of now. I was looking at the v20 because I have a jump next week but I'll stay with the s7 edge for now. I gave my Note 5 for the note 4 just last month and it was the best decision I've made
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I've gone through quite a few refurb phones and this last one they wanted to give me was filthy, had scratches, over all it was in bad shape. I wanted to exchange that for a new one but as it turns out, the Note 5 32/64gb has been discontinued! I already have an S7 edge and I still prefer my Note 5 but with the problems I've been having, it being discontinued, I feel like the safer route here would be to get a S7 Edge. Part of me wonders if I should go with the V20 instead. They have offered to transfer the balance over from the Note 5 (300 bucks) over to the new S7 Edge so I would not be paying full price for it. Thoughts?
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Honestly, I'm unsure if the Note 5 has an unlocked bootloader but I hate my S7 Edge. Not having a functional phone with root (ie no lag) sucks for a flash junkie like me. I jumped **** too soon and regret it!

I hate my s7 edge, boring phone without control. No different than iPhone sheep peeple

Except for the previous Verizon phones that I have, the tmo S7e is the first phone that I don't care to root. I had the Note 5 as well before the S7e. Seriously, if I can have 6 hrs SOT and amazing standby with Doze (and no crazy wake lock), I can live by without root.

It's a good phone. I don't root any phones anymore most are good out of the box.
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Anyone switching from the Galaxy S7 to OnePlus 5?

I'm considering upgrading to the OnePlus 5 (or 3T) from the Galaxy S7, but is it worth it after only one year? I guess I could sell my Galaxy S7 to partially make up for the OnePlus 5/3T expenses, but still unsure if they are that much better of phones.

I'm switching from s6 to OP5, why? Because want bigger (not curved) screen and better battery. S6 do better photos indoor.

I switched over from my S7 Edge. Depends on what you want out of your phone. I like stock Android, overall speed of the phone, dual camera, and the customizability. I also prefer the metal unibody.

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I switched over from my S7 Edge. Depends on what you want out of your phone. I like stock Android, overall speed of the phone, dual camera, and the customizability. I also prefer the metal unibody.
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Yeah I definitely want stock Android and better overall speed, battery life, and customization. But I'm wondering if it's too early to upgrade after only a year, and whether the S7 isn't that much far off from the OnePlus 5.

I am using S7 but decided to get OP5, but same time I will keep S7 so I can spent more time comparing with them , but it's too early to say if I will sell S7 or not

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Yeah I definitely want stock Android and better overall speed, battery life, and customization. But I'm wondering if it's too early to upgrade after only a year, and whether the S7 isn't that much far off from the OnePlus 5.
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If you're satisfied with the S7 then keep it. I like to live on the bleeding edge of phone tech, that's honestly one of the main reasons I upgraded.

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If you're satisfied with the S7 then keep it. I like to live on the bleeding edge of phone tech, that's honestly one of the main reasons I upgraded.
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I've noticed that it's begun to slow down (but not to the extent that I need to get rid of it), but my primary reason for considering the upgrade is to be able to not only use a brand new phone, but to flash ROMs on it and likely keep it for 2 years because of that.

I switched from my S7 today

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I've noticed that it's begun to slow down (but not to the extent that I need to get rid of it), but my primary reason for considering the upgrade is to be able to not only use a brand new phone, but to flash ROMs on it and likely keep it for 2 years because of that.
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I would go for the OP5 then, but you could also get a mint 3T on swappa for cheap right now. The development for that device is much more abundant than the 5 at this point.

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I would go for the OP5 then, but you could also get a mint 3T on swappa for cheap right now. The development for that device is much more abundant than the 5 at this poepint.
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Sounds good. So would you prefer the OnePlus 5 right now, or wait a few months for a possible OnePlus 5T or next summer for the OnePlus 6?

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Sounds good. So would you prefer the OnePlus 5 right now, or wait a few months for a possible OnePlus 5T or next summer for the OnePlus 6?
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I don't see them coming out with a 5T, and if they did it would be marginal. The only difference I think would be a 2k screen and OIS. Which won't really impact day to day use. I'd grab the 5.

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I don't see them coming out with a 5T, and if they did it would be marginal. The only difference I think would be a 2k screen and OIS. Which won't really impact day to day use. I'd grab the 5.
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Makes sense. Yeah hopefully I can sell my S7 for at least $250 to help pay for the OP5. Thanks for your help!

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Makes sense. Yeah hopefully I can sell my S7 for at least $250 to help pay for the OP5. Thanks for your help!
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No problem. You should definitely be able to get $250 if it's in good shape. Good luck!

MARIO SHARK said:
I'm considering upgrading to the OnePlus 5 (or 3T) from the Galaxy S7, but is it worth it after only one year? I guess I could sell my Galaxy S7 to partially make up for the OnePlus 5/3T expenses, but still unsure if they are that much better of phones.
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I sold my OnePlus 3T for $430 and now have the OnePlus 5 in my hands. Note that there's a promotion on the S8/S8+ right now, so you can pick one of those guys up for $~450. So if you like the S-Line, I'd weigh my options carefully.
No doubt the 3T/5 is much faster and smooth than the S7/S8 with a superior stock experience in terms of speed. If you want to try out Custom ROM's, then OP5 is the place to go for sure.

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I sold my OnePlus 3T for $430 and now have the OnePlus 5 in my hands. Note that there's a promotion on the S8/S8+ right now, so you can pick one of those guys up for $~450. So if you like the S-Line, I'd weigh my options carefully.
No doubt the 3T/5 is much faster and smooth than the S7/S8 with a superior stock experience in terms of speed. If you want to try out Custom ROM's, then OP5 is the place to go for sure.
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I've actually been an HTC fanboy since 2010 (until last year), but was so close to picking a phone with stock Android that year, and I wish I did. Don't get me wrong, the S7 has been very solid for me, but I'm not a huge fan of Touchwiz and I really miss the ability to flash ROMs which improves the longevity of phones. I'm just trying to figure out if an upgrade after only a year is worth it even if I can sell my S7 for a lot of money to nearly make up for the OP5.

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I've actually been an HTC fanboy since 2010 (until last year), but was so close to picking a phone with stock Android that year, and I wish I did. Don't get me wrong, the S7 has been very solid for me, but I'm not a huge fan of Touchwiz and I really miss the ability to flash ROMs which improves the longevity of phones. I'm just trying to figure out if an upgrade after only a year is worth it even if I can sell my S7 for a lot of money to nearly make up for the OP5.
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The OP5 will retain resale value. I sold my 3 (Originally $399) for $375 when I upgraded to the OP3T and sold the OP3T (Originally $479) for $430. I would sell the S7 before it loses more value, and you can always sell your OP5 in the future if needed without worrying about price depreciation.

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The OP5 will retain resale value. I sold my 3 (Originally $399) for $375 when I upgraded to the OP3T and sold the OP3T (Originally $479) for $430. I would sell the S7 before it loses more value, and you can always sell your OP5 in the future if needed without worrying about price depreciation.
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That's a good point. Just out of curiosity, my S7 is on T-Mobile. I know that I could take my SIM card out of it and stick it inside the OP5 (if I do purchase it). Does my phone number also get transferred and I maintain the same carrier plan? Sorry, this may be my first time switching to an unlocked phone.
EDIT: Asking because I'm wondering if I would have to pay more for talk/messaging/data after a year.

I switched from S7 (not EDGE) but still didn't received OP5. After reviews on the internet I'm considering to buy HTC U11 anyway after few weeks.

MARIO SHARK said:
That's a good point. Just out of curiosity, my S7 is on T-Mobile. I know that I could take my SIM card out of it and stick it inside the OP5 (if I do purchase it). Does my phone number also get transferred and I maintain the same carrier plan? Sorry, this may be my first time switching to an unlocked phone.
EDIT: Asking because I'm wondering if I would have to pay more for talk/messaging/data after a year.
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I do have a T-mobile SIM as well. Yeah you can just pop it into any device you want. Service is tied to the SIM.

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I do have a T-mobile SIM as well. Yeah you can just pop it into any device you want. Service is tied to the SIM.
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Oh ok, that's what I thought. But would my carrier plan stay intact, or end after the 2 year period which started in June 2016?

What will be your next phone?

With our Note 4 being long in the tooth and less developer support available. What will be your next phone of choice? I am leaning towards the new Note 8, not from a developer's view, but pure performance, if the specs are to be believed.

Difficult to say. I like the note series a lot, but without a removable battery I'm not sold on it.

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Difficult to say. I like the note series a lot, but without a removable battery I'm not sold on it.
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Which high phone still has a removable battery?

LG V20. Let's see what the V30 is all about.

I'm a little tired of not being able to run AOSP roms without having rando issues BT, WIFI "Samsung phones are not AOSP friendly since I've been on the S3." I think I'm waiting out for the pixel 2.

Im going to have my Note 4 for backup but im going to my non rootable Note 8
unless the Google Pixel 2 is great because root is life but removable batteries can be worked around

I have to stick with a Note. I'm hoping the Exynos Note 8 can be rooted. But, will an Exynos phone even work with Sprint's CDMA? I've always had Sprint phones in the past. When I had to turn in my Note 7 I was actually happy to go back to my Note 4, so I might just hold onto it for a while longer. I'm hoping that Samsung will come out with a Note Classic at some point with today's specs, fingers crossed!

This is my next phone!
Came from Note 3.
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With current choices, I'm waiting on Axon 8 on a non CDMA carrier. If Note 5 had more internal memory I might have considered it... last year.
Not holding my breath for a rootable Note 8 in my price range. Samsung ruined it for me with locked bootloaders with no unlock support, bent-fragile-expensive screens and carriers dropping subsidized phone contracts. The Note was a phone I could hold for duration of contract; I might have stayed with Sprint if those hadn't happened but Sprint and Note 4 EOL will end my tenure with both brands and CDMA. No more is my goal unless much changes on all fronts.
Phone UPGRADE will likely mean breaking all former trends. Good run on phones but data was always slow and many considered the Samsung phones as toys; neither weren't serious with data connection. That's the way I often feel while traveling and outdoors on vacation.
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I had picked up Note 4 after the Note 5 hit the market. With all of discounts being offered then, I actually was paid a $1 to upgrade from my Note II. So I got two, one for me and one for my wife. I'm sure such deals are a thing of the past.
I was thinking about getting the international version of the Note 8, which may be customized.

Note 8. My Note 4 is dying (emmc errors, freezes, reboots), so I have to replace it with something soon. I'm an S Pen addict, so that doesn't leave me with much choice.
Android has lost its luster for me. Yeah, I can choose launchers, etc., but that novelty has worn off. So if I could wean myself off the S Pen, I might even consider an iPhone.

200 dollars off the pixel XL is tempting.

ibedanny said:
200 dollars off the pixel XL is tempting.
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A Pixel? Seriously? Ewwww... there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Goodluck running AOSP roms on any samgung device without having some sort of issue. Had APN issues since my S3.

I will continue using my Note 4 until it's guts fall to the floor at which point I will duct tape them back in for one more round. Too many features I love are being removed from ALL the new phones....
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I'm having a hard time searching for another phone while my note 4 is still kicking. It's a tie between essential phone and pixel 2. Only time will tell. I want to stay on Sprint and have a phone with a large xda following.

I had a note 4 then it crapped out about a year ago. Had the choice between a note 5 and the S7. Went with the S7 because the note 5 wasn't getting very good reviews then. This was about two weeks before the note 7 release (dodged a bullet?). The S7 is solid but too small. I found a note 4 online for $80, rooted it and am very happy with it. Been looking at the S8 but it's a bit pricey. Will look at the note 8 if it ever comes out but who knows? I like the note 4 so much I went back to it.
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another note 4. i hate losing removable batterry, IR port, sPen
may be LG V20 (but it's dont have spen ( )

Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
Im going to have my Note 4 for backup but im going to my non rootable Note 8
unless the Google Pixel 2 is great because root is life but removable batteries can be worked around
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Sooo after seeing the Note 8 now
I find myself saying im just going to keep my note 4 until im happy with others phones and getting root lol
plus i removed insurance on my phone because its 13 dollars cheaper and if my phone breaks a new note 4 is like 150 or less on ebay or swappa.
Its like how do you give up free hotspot with many custom options and removable battery
for a high phone thats gonna add much more to your bill total anddd lose root and restricted hotspot for some and no removable battery

I have a new V20 in case my note 4 craps out. No chance I'm buying a phone that is not rootable. I don't care how nice and polished the Note 8 is. Once you start browsing the internet or youtube without an ad blocker its like going back to the dial-up days. Eff that. I don't need a polished turd such as the Note 8 with all "edge" and "bixby" nonsense. The Note 4 is still a very capable phone that has a lot more features than the 8.