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Is the N4 worth buying at this time?

Hey all, been rocking a Galaxy Note for about six months or so after unloading an iphone. Very pleased with my Note...love the screen size...but have to admit it's large size can be a bit of a hindrance at times. Have been seriously considering switching to a Nexus 4 which is what I originally wanted but was back ordered for too long. Problem is I'm torn on picking up what I believe is a great phone versus waiting another 6 months for the Nexus 5. I know the SG4 and HTC One are coming soon, but I have to admit, I really want stock Android without all the extra features which I find useless. Basically, is the N4 still worth purchasing? Or is it a foolish move this late in the cycle?
Thanks!

Htc One, not a major inovation.
Galaxy S4- they ran out of ideas.
I think the Nexus is still worth it, especially now, when its price went down a bit.

I was actually in a close situation about 2 weeks ago. I was basically up to get a new phone and was looking around for what to get. I wanted the Nexus 4 since launch, but my impressions of AT&T (the only provider in my area that is GSM) weren't good and I wanted to stick with Verizon. After months of waiting, I finally narrowed it down to waiting for the Galaxy S4 and signing a contract with the (again, opinion) superior service provider Verizon or switching to AT&T and staying off-contract with the cheaper phone with comparable specs. There was also the possibility of waiting for the next Nexus to come out (Nexus 5?) when it does.
Well, I decided on the Nexus 4 on AT&T and haven't looked back. I couldn't be happier. As far as Nexus 4 vs Galaxy S4 and HTC One is concerned, I am more than happy with my decision. The hardware is amazing, but the main reasons I'm so happy is the vanilla Android and the community. I love how Google really doesn't care about rooting and modding (it's like 1 or 2 commands in a command window to unlock the bootloader, that's awesome). Then there are forums like this that help you with stuff. Yeah, there are Galaxy S3 sections and they are helpful, but I just feel that the Nexus 4 forums are....I dunno...more friendly? more helpful? I don't know how to put it, but I just like the community better.
Now on the debate of getting a Nexus 4 now or waiting for the next one to come out. I actually liked being 6 months into the release. That way, you avoid back-order issues, and everyone has had time to develop and fix issues with ROMs and whatnot. 6 months in, all you have to do is read a "Nexus 4 101" sticky thread and they have step by step instructions for completely customizing/flashing/etc. it. I will probably continue waiting 6 months after release to buy a new Nexus phone for those two reasons.
Well there's my two cents. Feel free to consider it.

Thanks guys. Appreciate the insights.
Johmama, sounds like we're in very similar situations. After giving up on the N4 and going with the Note a few months ago, I made the switch from Verizon to Straight Talk. While it's not perfect service, it's 1/3 the monthly bill which allows me to forgive the occasional issue. That also is why I'm strictly debating N4 vs. N5 now. The purchase price of the Nexus line makes it very affordable compared to $650+ for the other options. Basically, by the time I unload my Note and accessories, it should be a pretty even swap, so cost isn't an issue. Just wanted to know if the device is still considered a smart buy. Seems like most are more than happy with it, so I think I'll make the jump.
Again, thanks for the help.

I came from the DNA, and was planning on just keeping this till ONE is released, but I'm keeping it. Sure I miss the screen size a bit, but I love this phone and am thinking I'm only gonna be a Nexus guy from now on. Its worth it. Also having good dev support is way cool
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big70tom said:
I came from the DNA, and was planning on just keeping this till ONE is released, but I'm keeping it. Sure I miss the screen size a bit, but I love this phone and am thinking I'm only gonna be a Nexus guy from now on. Its worth it. Also having good dev support is way cool
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Same for me! This phone is simply awesome! I have it for 6 weeks now and I really love it! Screen size, resolution, amazing hardware, amazing software, no bloatware,... Nexus is the way to go!
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I just got my phone couple weeks ago cause I got a fabulous day on Craigslist. Full well knowing the HTC One is coming out I could easily sell this for a profit but decided this phone is not $300 less of a phone then the HTC One.
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Get it while its still hot! but be careful when you hold it!

Looking to upgrade to possibly the note 3. Anyone have the nexus 5 first?

Hi, I'm at a crossroads at the moment. I currently have had the note 2 for a year now and love the screen size. However in 4 days, thanks to T-Mobile's jump program; I can upgrade. I'm stuck at the decision between choosing the note 3 or nexus 5. Has anyone here come from the nexus 5? I'm curious what there experience was that led them to get the note 3.
I understand the specs and differences. So I'm not sure about downgrading to a smaller screen (nexus 5) however my phones have always been rooted since the droid eris. Just before my note 3 received 4.3 I reset the counter and flashed back to stock. Then took the update. Now I'm unrooted due to not wanting to trip the knox counter. As I've read it's not possible to reset it, yet and I need to turn this phone in towards my upgrade. I miss being rooted and regular updates so I thought the nexus 5 because there's no tattle tale counters. But I'm not sure about the size and I'm not about the note 3 either, thanks to knox.
Anyone have maybe a suggestion?
I'm kinda on the fence at the moment. Thank you.
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hasbrobot said:
Hi, I'm at a crossroads at the moment. I currently have had the note 2 for a year now and love the screen size. However in 4 days, thanks to T-Mobile's jump program; I can upgrade. I'm stuck at the decision between choosing the note 3 or nexus 5. Has anyone here come from the nexus 5? I'm curious what there experience was that led them to get the note 3.
I understand the specs and differences. So I'm not sure about downgrading to a smaller screen (nexus 5) however my phones have always been rooted since the droid eris. Just before my note 3 received 4.3 I reset the counter and flashed back to stock. Then took the update. Now I'm unrooted due to not wanting to trip the knox counter. As I've read it's not possible to reset it, yet and I need to turn this phone in towards my upgrade. I miss being rooted and regular updates so I thought the nexus 5 because there's no tattle tale counters. But I'm not sure about the size and I'm not about the note 3 either, thanks to knox.
Anyone have maybe a suggestion?
I'm kinda on the fence at the moment. Thank you.
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Get neither.
I would suggest getting a Note 3 but since you are worried about Knox, then forget it. Well there is also a possibility of rooting without tripping Knox and that depends on your software version [check Root de La Vega thread].
I don't like LG Nexus 5 because there is no microSD slot, you cannot replace the battery without unscrewing the phone, no usb otg.
Have you considered getting an LG G2?
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2-5543.php
Is it in your upgrade plan?
I believe it might be, since Note 3 costs a lot more

I've thought about the g2 actually but not a whole lot. T-Mobile is my carrier and almost everything in the store is zero down right now so I'm wide open decision wise.
Thanks for the link
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I could probably live without root. It's not too imperative for me. Think I really like the size of the note 3.
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Flashed cwm and a custom rom within 4 hours after recieving my note 3. Knox 0x1 has no meaning to me. As i would rather repair myself than wait weeks for samsung to do it.
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I came from the note 2 then to nexus 5 then to note 3. I like the change in every way except missing kitkat and dislike having a physical button to go home. Beyond that the note 3 build quality and extra features included with the note 3 make it an easy choice for me. The Nexus 5 is an awesome phone for the price but the quality is no where near the note 3. The knox issue.... I checked all the basic functioning including multitouch and after everything checked out I rooted and never looked back.

Awesome,
Only reason I'm even partially concerned with knox is it might effect exchanging the phone in later for another (jump) upgrade.
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rans0m00 said:
I came from the note 2 then to nexus 5 then to note 3. I like the change in every way except missing kitkat and dislike having a physical button to go home. Beyond that the note 3 build quality and extra features included with the note 3 make it an easy choice for me. The Nexus 5 is an awesome phone for the price but the quality is no where near the note 3. The knox issue.... I checked all the basic functioning including multitouch and after everything checked out I rooted and never looked back.
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How long did you have the nexus 5 and why did you go from it to the note 3? Where you on the fence as well before getting the n5 in the first place?
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My buddy has the n5 its a sweet phone he is rooted with kit kat and I have the stock note 3 with jellybean still and the only thing I would root it for is no ads other than that my feelings are heavily weighed for the note its a far superior device imo
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hasbrobot said:
Awesome,
Only reason I'm even partially concerned with knox is it might effect exchanging the phone in later for another (jump) upgrade.
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When you trade your phone in, you could always re flash stock, I wouldnt of thought they would check for Knox being 0x1 ?
I like you faced this dilemma although id already purchased my note 3 but knox P***** me off so i wanted to sell the device and buy a N5 or G2 - after playing with both of these phones...I stuck with my note 3 partly due to the bigger screen and i just thought to hell with samsung Knox - Rooted it and installed what i wanted ive never looked back.

hasbrobot said:
How long did you have the nexus 5 and why did you go from it to the note 3? Where you on the fence as well before getting the n5 in the first place?
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I had the nexus 5 for little over 2 months. I enjoyed it and still prefer Kitkat over jellybean any day.
I purchased the n5 for the price for performance. I decided to upgrade because I wanted apt-x for blue tooth audio, I prefer the larger screen, and I still like having the removable battery and SD card.
There wasn't much on the fence... I had never had a nexus device and decided to try it out and see what the hype was about. For the price from Google play it's unbeatable imo. Paying the extra 100 because it came through tmo is a ripoff. Just my personal experience get the 32gb version so you don't have to compromise on what you can carry.
I liked the phone enough and for how cheap it is I decided to give it to my gf instead of selling it. If she didn't want it I would keep it around as a backup phone for when it's not a good idea to carry my note 3.
So in closing you can't go wrong with either one. For staying connected and having the latest Android the nexus wins. For bells and whistles the note 3 wins.
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Well I think that settles it. Thank you everyone for you input. Between everyone's generous advice and going to T-Mobile tonight to play with both. I have made up my mind.
(Drum roll please... ... ... ...)
And the winner is....
The note 3!!
No I just need to decide on the color. HA!
This Wednesday is the day. My wife and I are going to T-Mobile and she'll likely get the white and I'll probably get the black.
Thanks guys!!
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hasbrobot said:
Awesome,
Only reason I'm even partially concerned with knox is it might effect exchanging the phone in later for another (jump) upgrade.
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Just an FYI - most carriers don't even check KNOX/Warranty status when you trade in etc.

radicalisto said:
Just an FYI - most carriers don't even check KNOX/Warranty status when you trade in etc.
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Hope your right, odds are at some point I'm going to eventually root it.
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Just bought the black note 3 and the white one for my wife!!
Totally awesome phone! I thought the note 2 was amazing. This phone is incredible. Thanks everyone for your input.
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hi,
had note 1, than iphone5s, now note 3. Nothing beats this screen size, wondered what to choose and there is no competition so far…

Can you not do what I did?
I got a sim free phone and a much cheaper sim-only deal (Paying £15 PM instead of £36+)
No waiting around if you want to upgrade early, I got the S3, then Note 2, then Note 2 LTE and finally the Note 3 - petty good resale values.
I would still be stuck with my S3 if I hadn't gone down this route. 24 Months is too long to be tied to a phone

I've got the note 3 on contract and cos the nexus 5 will get updates first I bought one outright as the price is so cheap and it works for me as I prefer the smaller N5 for work...
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Note 4 regrets

Even though, there is no root for the device yet.. Does anyone regret purchasing their note 4?

If we never get root I might....

I've never rooted an android so I really don't know what it's capable of. But I'm very happy with my Note 4

None here!
Love the screen and fast charging - ive got unlimited and hotspot though and I dont pay for the phone or plan, so I'm kind of a shoe-in for being perfectly happy.

I'm neutral. My note 3 was worth $360 when I sold it. I paid full retail, minus $7360, minus the incoming $200 rebate, thus I'm out $200 after taxes and what not. However, I could sell this Note 4 tomorrow for $600, thus I'm holding $400, a $40 increase. So with my math, the phone was free.
Due to that, I don't regret it yet, but I sure do miss root.

if I don't get root, I'll regret and either sell this to downgrade to an s5, or downgrade to an international. both downgrades will cost me a lot out of pocket..

soraxd said:
if I don't get root, I'll regret and either sell this to downgrade to an s5, or downgrade to an international. both downgrades will cost me a lot out of pocket..
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Why not just get the dev version?

I'm starting to regret my note 4 purchase, in fact I'm taking it back Friday, probably gonna go with the LG g3 that's what I was gonna get but was talked out of it. I like the note 4 but why all of this Knox crap. To much security for me, screw you verizon! Smart phones are fun but there actually a tool so be carefull.

A bit, only because of not having root. Having come from a T-Mobile note 2, Really annoyed at how locked down Verizon is.

I just switched from tmobile to Verizon, that was a good move cause verizon coverage and reliability is so much better. When I switched I was planning to buy the note 3 cause it was rootable but no one had it in Stock so I bought the note 4. No regrets at all but I will most likely sell the retail version to get the developer edition if root is not achieved soon.

Only a couple things that bother me because of lack of root, not being able to use Titanium and not being able to replace the God awful current version of Google Maps with version 6. The latter was remedied with the discovery of Waze so for now I am good on that front.
Other than that, nope, I LOVE the Note 4 and am good to go for a while.

I have not even used mine much yet. I got it on launch day, but with no root it's just collecting dust right now.
I'm still on my Note 3 with Jasmine rom most of the time. I'm starting to seriously think of selling off my Note 4 and getting the dev edition.

mwebb34 said:
I'm starting to regret my note 4 purchase, in fact I'm taking it back Friday, probably gonna go with the LG g3 that's what I was gonna get but was talked out of it. I like the note 4 but why all of this Knox crap. To much security for me, screw you verizon! Smart phones are fun but there actually a tool so be carefull.
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I want the lg g3 also but I hear the battery won't get a full day idk if I would like that at all.

timmyd463229 said:
I want the lg g3 also but I hear the battery won't get a full day idk if I would like that at all.
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Coming from a previous g3 owner don't do it, g3 is a good phone but I'm telling you you'll miss your note.

gcforreal said:
Coming from a previous g3 owner don't do it, g3 is a good phone but I'm telling you you'll miss your note.
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I don't have the note yet but am considering it. Well I have the note 2 and am looking for something that will make me not miss my rooted note 2.

timmyd463229 said:
I don't have the note yet but am considering it. Well I have the note 2 and am looking for something that will make me not miss my rooted note 2.
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Well if you're really into custom roms which the note 4 obviously doesn't have then you may have a problem. But i had the g3.. The screen just wasn't up to par, extremely poor brightness (try using it in a well lit room or worst outside) the lag caused by the thermal throttling to keep the display from overheating the phone, it may sound like I'm bashing the g3 I'm not but it's just note good as the note in my opinion. It does have root though so Hey that might be the better choice for you.

Are there any even dev units available??

masri1987 said:
Are there any even dev units available??
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No and they way they limit them I doubt there will be any more when the note 3 dev got back ordered like the note 4 one is now it never came back

vmod32 said:
I have not even used mine much yet. I got it on launch day, but with no root it's just collecting dust right now.
I'm still on my Note 3 with Jasmine rom most of the time. I'm starting to seriously think of selling off my Note 4 and getting the dev edition.
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Aren't you afraid that you'll open it and it will end up being defective? After 14 days, you're stuck with it. I already had to return one defective phone.

By still having unlimited data makes me want root really badly, but I am sure it will be here sooner or later. One thing I do have a thing about is the home button. Call me OCD, but man... it feels like I am double clicking all the time when I am pressing it. Anyone else having the same problem?

Who's gonna keep using their Note 7?

There's absolutely no other phone I want, so I'm seriously considering not turning my phone in and continuing to use it. Plus I'm not at all happy with the compensation of a $25 credit. What I would deem fair is allowing me to "use" an S7e or ANY phone I want until a suitable replacement phone (S8, Note 8, etc.) becomes available and then turning in the loaner for the better phone. Anyway... anyone else going to chance it and just keep on using their Note 7?
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I really like the phone. But, it's not worth risking my life and property for.

Just got my replacement in the mail last Thursday. It's been working just fine. Doesn't get hot or anything with heavy use. I'm going to continue using my revised note 7 till they try to force me to deactivate it

Ive had a rough time getting a replacement, so ive been looking into the pixel xl or just snag a nexus 6p for cheap. Its not worth risking to me.
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I'm going to keep mine because I have not had any issues and do not want to get a new phone. This mostly due to how terrible the corporate sprint store near me is. I had to go into the store 3 times to get a replacement.

The only problem (aside from the whole catching fire thing) is I doubt they'll be working on any software updates for the Note 7 now. No Nougut for the Note 7?
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I really wish there were better options out right now I would switch in a heart beat. Unfortunately there's nothing even close out right now or coming out in the next few weeks. If they force us to move on I'll probably go with the v20 or 7 edge.
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I upgraded from a Note 3 to a Note 7. I need a Note with Micro SD card slot. I went on Ebay today and bought the best Note 4 I saw as a backup plan. I still have the original recalled Note 7 and plan to keep it for now. But like kstephens98 said, it won't get updates. And who's gonna wanna continue development here? I think I'll probably use the Note 4 until (hopefully) the Note 8 comes out. I just hope I can still get a full refund if it comes down to that. There's no other new phone out there that I would be interested in.

there is no competition.
i'll hold it until they have another fixed batch or until the Note 8.

Keeping mine
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Absolutely keeping mine. It's the best phone I've had, it's the phone I want to have, and I have absolutely no issues with it. No overheating. Doesn't even get warm.

T4eTurtleC1ub said:
Absolutely keeping mine. It's the best phone I've had, it's the phone I want to have, and I have absolutely no issues with it. No overheating. Doesn't even get warm.
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As much as this comment exactly describes how i feel i have to return the phone. This is the hsrdest decision. Even harder than returning the first one cause last tine i knew it would be conning back. But it is now giing to be gone forever.
The main reasons are these
1) the phone cost $900. If i keep it i cannot get a new one probably ever.
2) development Will be non existent.
3) no resale value at all in the rare chance i could afford another one.
4) my husband will refuse to let me keep it even if i wanted to ignore 1-3
I was hoping for a new batch but from what I've read Samsung has officially dropped the note 7 all together.
Out the money for my case and have a gear vr which i cannot use. THIS SUCKS
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Just an FYI just got this tidbit from Sprint Chat:
"Daniel M:*You can check the availability of the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 with our Telesales team as the device is not available online and we are trying to get it back soon but any date is not confirmed."
was also confirmed by Telesales
If they get the note 5 back, I'd take that. I honestly don't think PHYSICALLY the note 7 is that different. On top of that, the Note 5 is honestly the best alternative. As sad as it is to say that a year old phone is the best alternative...it really, honestly is. I can deal without the USB-C, I can even deal with the lack of SD Card support(I haven't used an SD card in ages as long as there's a 64gb version). The water resistance would be nice...but after owning the S5, it was more.....convenient than anything. The "IF it drops in the water I don't have anything the worry about" feeling. I took underwater pics once just to say I did and could but....not like I'm gonna go swimming with that bad boy in my pocket lol.
Lastly, and most importantly for me, is the S-Pen. Unlike a good number of people, I actually use my....a lot. Which I find either people use it A LOT, or never lol. Anyway, if/when the Note 5 becomes available again, then I'll go back to that. But this Note 7 really was the PERFECT phone.
Water Resistance
S-Pen
AMAZIN screen to body ratio
iris scanner is way more functional than I anticipated
just the right about of edge on the screen
THE SCREEN PERIOD lol
the camera was near flawless in my opinion
everything about this phone......
If only Samsung wouldn't have rushed things. I think this phone would have beat out the iPhone anyway. Thing is, people who buy iPhones, buy iPhones. Getting them to switch is difficult because they're usually invested in apple products. iPads, Macbooks, lightning adapters, etc. People who buy Android phones are usually invested in it. Samsung people usually have Samsung Tablets, enjoy the gmail/google apps integration, enjoy the mass amount of free apps from the app store lol. This makes me want to cry lol

Went ahead and exchanged mine for an S7 Edge. It's a very nice phone too. Plus I didn't use the S-Pen like I thought I would.
In addition, Got two free gifts for my first note and my replacement note and now I've been approved for my S7 Edge. Three gifts, one purchase.
Anyone thinking of trading it in and doing the gift thing, sorry, it ended Oct 9th I believe.

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Went ahead and exchanged mine for an S7 Edge. It's a very nice phone too. Plus I didn't use the S-Pen like I thought I would.
In addition, Got two free gifts for my first note and my replacement note and now I've been approved for my S7 Edge. Three gifts, one purchase.
Anyone thinking of trading it in and doing the gift thing, sorry, it ended Oct 9th I believe.
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They would end it just before they got destroyed with people switching and double dipping lol

I am going to keep mine. I still have my old Note 5, 4 and 3 so I have options.

Just got a text from sprint giving me 15 days to return my note to avoid a non return fee

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Just got a text from sprint giving me 15 days to return my note to avoid a non return fee
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ugh. I am going to call the corp guys tomorrow when I have time to ask what they are going to let me get away with. I am leaning like some others to the LG V20, but since it doesn't come out until the 28th it's outside a 15 day window. Would go without phone/phone payments and a Note 4 I pick up used for now if it meant using my upgrade later.
already sent my old phone back to them, as required to not get charged. So can't go back to that. After thinking about it, the S7 or S7E is a horrible choice since they will be replaced soon and then I'll be pissed I just got an old model.

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Keeping mine
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Ditto....like most of you I'm paying the extra few bucks a month to upgrade with each new release so I'll hang on to my 7 til Sammy drops a new flagship.

Me!!
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There's absolutely no other phone I want, so I'm seriously considering not turning my phone in and continuing to use it. Plus I'm not at all happy with the compensation of a $25 credit. What I would deem fair is allowing me to "use" an S7e or ANY phone I want until a suitable replacement phone (S8, Note 8, etc.) becomes available and then turning in the loaner for the better phone. Anyway... anyone else going to chance it and just keep on using their Note 7?
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I am going to keep using mine. There is NOTHING else that is even close to the Note 7. All of us who own the phone knows it is the sweetest one out there. I had considered the LG V20, but I would feel as though I had an inferior phone; judging by the reviews.
The reason I am here today is to root the phone to prevent Samsung from sending some type of kill update.

What will be your next phone?

With our Note 4 being long in the tooth and less developer support available. What will be your next phone of choice? I am leaning towards the new Note 8, not from a developer's view, but pure performance, if the specs are to be believed.

Difficult to say. I like the note series a lot, but without a removable battery I'm not sold on it.

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Difficult to say. I like the note series a lot, but without a removable battery I'm not sold on it.
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Which high phone still has a removable battery?

LG V20. Let's see what the V30 is all about.

I'm a little tired of not being able to run AOSP roms without having rando issues BT, WIFI "Samsung phones are not AOSP friendly since I've been on the S3." I think I'm waiting out for the pixel 2.

Im going to have my Note 4 for backup but im going to my non rootable Note 8
unless the Google Pixel 2 is great because root is life but removable batteries can be worked around

I have to stick with a Note. I'm hoping the Exynos Note 8 can be rooted. But, will an Exynos phone even work with Sprint's CDMA? I've always had Sprint phones in the past. When I had to turn in my Note 7 I was actually happy to go back to my Note 4, so I might just hold onto it for a while longer. I'm hoping that Samsung will come out with a Note Classic at some point with today's specs, fingers crossed!

This is my next phone!
Came from Note 3.
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With current choices, I'm waiting on Axon 8 on a non CDMA carrier. If Note 5 had more internal memory I might have considered it... last year.
Not holding my breath for a rootable Note 8 in my price range. Samsung ruined it for me with locked bootloaders with no unlock support, bent-fragile-expensive screens and carriers dropping subsidized phone contracts. The Note was a phone I could hold for duration of contract; I might have stayed with Sprint if those hadn't happened but Sprint and Note 4 EOL will end my tenure with both brands and CDMA. No more is my goal unless much changes on all fronts.
Phone UPGRADE will likely mean breaking all former trends. Good run on phones but data was always slow and many considered the Samsung phones as toys; neither weren't serious with data connection. That's the way I often feel while traveling and outdoors on vacation.
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I had picked up Note 4 after the Note 5 hit the market. With all of discounts being offered then, I actually was paid a $1 to upgrade from my Note II. So I got two, one for me and one for my wife. I'm sure such deals are a thing of the past.
I was thinking about getting the international version of the Note 8, which may be customized.

Note 8. My Note 4 is dying (emmc errors, freezes, reboots), so I have to replace it with something soon. I'm an S Pen addict, so that doesn't leave me with much choice.
Android has lost its luster for me. Yeah, I can choose launchers, etc., but that novelty has worn off. So if I could wean myself off the S Pen, I might even consider an iPhone.

200 dollars off the pixel XL is tempting.

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200 dollars off the pixel XL is tempting.
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A Pixel? Seriously? Ewwww... there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Goodluck running AOSP roms on any samgung device without having some sort of issue. Had APN issues since my S3.

I will continue using my Note 4 until it's guts fall to the floor at which point I will duct tape them back in for one more round. Too many features I love are being removed from ALL the new phones....
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I'm having a hard time searching for another phone while my note 4 is still kicking. It's a tie between essential phone and pixel 2. Only time will tell. I want to stay on Sprint and have a phone with a large xda following.

I had a note 4 then it crapped out about a year ago. Had the choice between a note 5 and the S7. Went with the S7 because the note 5 wasn't getting very good reviews then. This was about two weeks before the note 7 release (dodged a bullet?). The S7 is solid but too small. I found a note 4 online for $80, rooted it and am very happy with it. Been looking at the S8 but it's a bit pricey. Will look at the note 8 if it ever comes out but who knows? I like the note 4 so much I went back to it.
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another note 4. i hate losing removable batterry, IR port, sPen
may be LG V20 (but it's dont have spen ( )

Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
Im going to have my Note 4 for backup but im going to my non rootable Note 8
unless the Google Pixel 2 is great because root is life but removable batteries can be worked around
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Sooo after seeing the Note 8 now
I find myself saying im just going to keep my note 4 until im happy with others phones and getting root lol
plus i removed insurance on my phone because its 13 dollars cheaper and if my phone breaks a new note 4 is like 150 or less on ebay or swappa.
Its like how do you give up free hotspot with many custom options and removable battery
for a high phone thats gonna add much more to your bill total anddd lose root and restricted hotspot for some and no removable battery

I have a new V20 in case my note 4 craps out. No chance I'm buying a phone that is not rootable. I don't care how nice and polished the Note 8 is. Once you start browsing the internet or youtube without an ad blocker its like going back to the dial-up days. Eff that. I don't need a polished turd such as the Note 8 with all "edge" and "bixby" nonsense. The Note 4 is still a very capable phone that has a lot more features than the 8.