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HSPA+.....

Just got a text from T-Mobile saying HSPA+ is active in my city....Memphis, TN. Havent noticed in difference. Maybe I should do a speed test later.

maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it

hspa+ is still faster than the 3g you prob had, so now you might get up to 7.2mbps.. so you could notice a difference even though we dont have hspa enable devices... this is the first time that we can recieve more data than the phone can handle...

scrizz said:
maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it
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yeah i thought about that too. I have an upgrade so I am gonna get the G2 when it comes out. But i still wanna do some test with normal 3g versus HSPA+

Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.

All I care about is that hsdpa gets me down speeds rivaling my cable connection and up speeds beating my cable connection. 5.5/1
6? Don't need more.
Unless I am at home where tmo never gives me much signal love
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DriftorX said:
Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.
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I just did the speed test on my Vibrant and thats the speeds I am getting. Dont remember what I was getting before tho.

I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)

pavvy said:
I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)
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I get about 0.5 at home, but 4-5 at work.

I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...

pavvy said:
I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...
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I only get edge at home. I live right outside of the hspa network...

I'm about 45 mins outside of hspa/3g networks, on most days around town, I stay on 3g
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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+

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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+
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Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.

No the h isn't turned on... Gotta check in settings... Only stock phone that shows h is the n1..
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Looks like the HSPA+ network to me. You didn't notice anything because you we're already on it. They only announce it after it has a good amount of coverage over the existing HSPA/3G network. It actually starts to come online far before they announce it. I noticed HSPA+ 2 months before they said it was live (outside of the strip where it was turned on during CES or CTIA)

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Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.
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thought our phones were HSPA, but not HSPA+ - are you sure they're not HSPA??
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does (according to Tmo's map, i'm in a "moderate" coverage area, and in a shallow valley in that area)
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps

larryccf said:
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps
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Interesting. I havent noticed mine doing that. But i cant say i have paid much attention to it either tho.

T-Mobile Network Issues

Hey, anyone else have network issues with the N1 today? Seems like none of my calls or texts are going through, but I have signal and everything. I went outside to use 3g, worked for a little and then stopped.. So I did a airplane off/on and now the data wont connect. Went back inside it connected again but text and calls wouldnt work.
Anyone else having any issues?
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You need to provide more info like your general location. It might be a local issue or trouble with your phone.
I was on my phone all day in calls and data with no problems. I'm in the Chicago area.

Hi.. I have troubles with T-Mobile on 3G... but supposedly there is an issue with my mast in NR1.. I agree...where are you?
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Have you tried turning the phone off then back on? I run into this problem every once in a while. So have others:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...on&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars

In Orlando, Fl ever since Hsdpa rolled out here If been getting little to no 3g here, spoke to a tmob rep and he saying something about no longer connecting to at&t's frequencies so data loss is possible, idk but it needs to get resolved its been a couple of weeks.

i had the same problem yesterday. It only happened to me at home when i left running around town i was able to connect for data. Also it was raining here so maybe that contributed to it

InfamousI said:
In Orlando, Fl ever since Hsdpa rolled out here If been getting little to no 3g here, spoke to a tmob rep and he saying something about no longer connecting to at&t's frequencies so data loss is possible, idk but it needs to get resolved its been a couple of weeks.
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tell me about it man, I was in Orlando this weekend and 3G connection su*ks, since I was using my phone as GPS it was very frustrating. I started messing around with build.prop like crazy but nothing worked.

Happens to me all the time. Especially around evening times. 3-6pm. This is in seattle btw.
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profresh said:
Happens to me all the time. Especially around evening times. 3-6pm. This is in seattle btw.
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Same in Eastern Washington
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I've only had issues in my house, but that's because my house is a service-killer. No bars anywhere downstairs, but almost full 3G bars in my room. lol
Have you tried the new 5.XX series radios yet? I'm running 5.08 and notice little to no data loss or other data issues. There are moments of weirdness, but a quick disable/enable of mobile data does the trick in the most severe of situations.
Gonna upgrade to 5.12 now and see what's different (apparently touchscreen ****ty-ness is fixed). Worth a shot. Use fastboot though, never flash a radio in recovery, leaves too much up to chance.

I feel ya.. I was in universal last night and I had 4-5 bars of 3g and no internet, or at least really slooooow internet when it did work. T mobile needs to ramp up Orlando's and others servers/towers. When too many people use the internet at the same time it kills the towers bandwidth. While at Universal's Horror nights I figure everyone in the 45min-2Hr lines for the houses are using it. So that is bad. But once I left Orlando it worked fine.
Had Froyo Radio... Flashed new 5.12 today one and seems better. At least Agps is working much better.

Glad to know it's not just me. I had been searching on the Internet for people with the same issues and decided to come here. I'm in stl and my data connection will either work or not. Ive tried turning off the phone and then back on, airplane, etc.
Right now it works but it's nowhere near the 4 megs i was pulling last night, its hovering around 500 Kbps when it decides to work. Im sure tmobile is just upgrading some stuff.

Looks like its just Orlando where problem exists.
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Its very frustrating, 3g used to fly here in orlando for, but now im surviving on edge...

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Looks like its just Orlando where problem exists.
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YEEEEEAAAH BOYEEE! I tried to get tickets for Thursday, but that didn't go well lol. Might just take my kayak out to the cove
Lol wayyyyyy off topic, sorry OP

Possible to 'SBF out' a Motorola Pro?

Hi all,
Is it possible to extract out the SBF from the upcoming Motorola Pro?
If so how is it done? Can I use RSDlite to extract out?
Then can I use RSDlite to flash the SBF to a Motorola DROID Pro?
If you can advise I'd be very grateful.

I cant see why something like that cant be done, physically the phones are identical bar the eu version has 8gb built in. software wise its bloody awful.
I loaded the only custom rom available on today which actually allowed me to roam properly in uk and pick up orange whilst three signal was being pants. Their is problems with the graphics in th ui with that custom rom though. still it makes me wanna keep phone now as i was a bit disheartened with the bloat ware and custom menus.
Its supposed to be a 1st quarter release for the euro pro so not lang to wait and see if anything is possible.

Thanks machode - I agree completley built in software is crap.
I'm also hoping the new flashed phone will pick up signals better.
I'm convinced the USA lock on certain bands affects how good of a connection we make here.
To give you an idea, I had Giffgaff and can at most get 2 bars (centre of Birmingham and sometimes London for work) but switching to a 'normal' android phone, I easily got 3 and most of the time 4 bars of H.
I'm hoping the flash is indeed possible.
The UK site of motorola already has some info on the motorola pro - so you're right its release is immanent.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/G.../Mobile-Phones/Motorola-PRO-GB-EN?localeId=24

Yea completely agree with you guys... im on Virgin (T-Mobile UK lines) and most of the time i get only 1-2 bars of H... even when probably standing directly underneath a spot I only get 3 of 4..
Do you guys notice the problem of the H sometimes just dropping even though you have signal, like it not being totally stable? Or is that just me being paranoid? Funnily enough, even though it only displays 1 or 2 bars of H, when its there, its still pretty fast .. enough for tethering IMO.
I really do hope a cross-flash between the devices will be possible. I mean it should not be a hard task to do as the two phones are literally the same in every aspect.. lets keep hoping!

Anyone else? Your expertise would be very appreciated

machode said:
I cant see why something like that cant be done, physically the phones are identical bar the eu version has 8gb built in. software wise its bloody awful.
I loaded the only custom rom available on today which actually allowed me to roam properly in uk and pick up orange whilst three signal was being pants. Their is problems with the graphics in th ui with that custom rom though. still it makes me wanna keep phone now as i was a bit disheartened with the bloat ware and custom menus.
Its supposed to be a 1st quarter release for the euro pro so not lang to wait and see if anything is possible.
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how strong was your signal bars with the custom rom? better than stock?

hanybanoub said:
how strong was your signal bars with the custom rom? better than stock?
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He's probably talking about the Fission ROM. This ROM uses the stock baseband, so the signal & data issues will be the same as the stock ROM.

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how strong was your signal bars with the custom rom? better than stock?
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stock rom doesnt allow me to roam properly. on three i was getting 0-1 bar or just losing signal all together without it being able to roam onto orange which is what it will do on any other phone i have had. on the custom rom it was properly roaming onto orange giving me full signal.

there is not problem with signal, its the configuration that motorola have setup on it for global use, you dont have all the normal network options to configure the phone as with other android phones.

Geeez.. what I would give to get a hold of that OS and Baseband!!!
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Funnily enough.. it still lists the model number even on that device they had at the convention as Droid Pro!?
Also look at that 3G reception... !! 4 bars!!! A sight I could only dream of ...
EDIT: Sorry, my mistake .. even 5 bars! Lol.. the scale on mine only goes to 4, probably for a good reason.

Also interesting... hands-on with the Pro on that convention in Barcelona. The guy flicks through the menu a little bit.. if any of you guys understands French its fairly interesting, if not he basically just introduces it, doenst seem he had any background knowledge about the Droid Pro in the US but compares it with the BlackBerry a lot, especially the keyboard. He also says that he spoke to one of the Motorola guys at the convention and they said that they are expecting an official Gingerbread upgrade, but no official date was given. It is also interesting to see that its stripped of any VZ stuff but nevertheless blur'ed... :/
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machode said:
there is not problem with signal, its the configuration that motorola have setup on it for global use, you dont have all the normal network options to configure the phone as with other android phones.
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machode said:
stock rom doesnt allow me to roam properly. on three i was getting 0-1 bar or just losing signal all together without it being able to roam onto orange which is what it will do on any other phone i have had. on the custom rom it was properly roaming onto orange giving me full signal.
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I'm sure you're right mate - the moto flavour of android is quite poor and overloaded with crap - which helped you pick up better signal with custom rom and same (backend) baseband as the original.
Someone put more extensive tips on configuring this phone:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-pro/134934-my-tips.html#post1394685
I'll try it when I can.

vivid22 said:
Geeez.. what I would give to get a hold of that OS and Baseband!!!
Funnily enough.. it still lists the model number even on that device they had at the convention as Droid Pro!?
Also look at that 3G reception... !! 4 bars!!! A sight I could only dream of ...
EDIT: Sorry, my mistake .. even 5 bars! Lol.. the scale on mine only goes to 4, probably for a good reason.
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I'd love to flash it onto our DROIDs!
Have you tried speedtest android app? What download speeds are you getting?
Part of me is convinced some of the radio band lock affects signal, but it's NOT supposed to - only in America. Here in the UK we shouldn't be affected...

vivid22 said:
Also interesting... hands-on with the Pro on that convention in Barcelona. The guy flicks through the menu a little bit.. if any of you guys understands French its fairly interesting, if not he basically just introduces it, doenst seem he had any background knowledge about the Droid Pro in the US but compares it with the BlackBerry a lot, especially the keyboard. He also says that he spoke to one of the Motorola guys at the convention and they said that they are expecting an official Gingerbread upgrade, but no official date was given. It is also interesting to see that its stripped of any VZ stuff but nevertheless blur'ed... :/
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Nice link and info - it's good to know about gingerbread. Moto was supposed to update it with corporate features including security etc too.

Poor and Spotty Verizon reception since I got the phone Oct 30th... Help?

Since having this phone since last week I've noticed reception that is worse than my previous Verizon Note 3. I live in a spotty/poor area for reception but it has been worse than ever before now on the 6P. Maybe something in the way I have it setup could help....maybe? At my house I never get 4G (even on my old Note 3 all I ever had was 3G) and at the office I used to get 4G on my Note 3 but now I only very occasionally see it show LTE above the bars at the top of the phone.
I've tried switching between Global, LTE/CDMA and LTE/GSM/UMTS under the cellular network settings and Global seems to return the best reception for me. What should be the best setting here for Verizon?
I have "Data Roaming" off; should it be on?
I have "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" on; should it be on or off?
"System Select" I have on automatic; good?
"Access Points" screen opens to APN's which I haven't touched because I have no idea what that does...any help in there???
Having used my phone for a while now I can add that I occasionally will see several bars on the reception icon at the top and then it will just vanish and show no bars. Usually my reception would bounce up and down a bit but on this phone it seems to plunge or skyrocket sporadically.
At the office (where I have better reception) I will see very good signal strength around -73dBm 8asu at times and then at other times its -117dBm 1asu or worse. At home its almost always -110 or worse...
Any thoughts on anything I could try to change to improve things or am I just out of luck with a weaker radio in this phone verses my old Note 3?
Thanks

Here's a screen shot of today's reception at the office...
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Here's a screen shot of today's reception at the office... View attachment 3529848
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I am also on Verizon and in my house the cell signal is comparable to that. I think there is just bad coverage in my neighborhood; when I go towards the city center it gets better.

I just sold my Verizon note 5 got the nexus 6p, and the 6p gets better reception

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I just sold my Verizon note 5 got the nexus 6p, and the 6p gets better reception
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How is the screen on N6P compared to Note 5?

You might want to try turning off Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. The Enhanced 4G LTE mode turns on VoLTE. If you don't have good LTE coverage, then you won't be able to make calls reliably with VoLTE turned on.

I agree with your points. I too want to figure out which is best.
This was my battery life on the first day I got it, 10/29. I had the best SOT performance when I was setting it up. Everything mostly on. Realized my coverage sucked when I saw others.
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And this is today.
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Data Roaming off
Network Type LTE / CDMA
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VZWINTERNET APNs

This is awful now...
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I'm having the same issue.

rsa 329 said:
I'm having the same issue.
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What phone did you use before?
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Davidinks said:
What phone did you use before?
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Moto x pure xt1575. Love that phone

droidguy22 said:
How is the screen on N6P compared to Note 5?
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The screen is ok, the note 5 is still the best phone on the market, but it's not an option on Verizon if you like xda
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Moto x pure xt1575. Love that phone
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Do you have a newer seem card?

Yes, its a new sim.

T-Mobile 6T keeps losing network connection

Is anyone else having an issue with their network connection? There are random times where I open the phone and I can't get anywhere. Apps just spin and time out saying no network connection. Although, the status bar still shows 4G LTE.
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I have an unlocked 6T, using it on T-Mobile, and I was getting lots of data connection dropouts, not exactly how you described, but I would go from all bars to zero bars, then it would reconnect after 5 seconds or so. It's seemed to get quite a bit better since I turned off WiFi scanning for location purposes even when wifi is off. Can't say yet that it's fixed but it's been all good for hours now. Good luck with your issue!

I'll try that. I really want to love this phone, but I've had a few issues after only 2 days that I never once had with my LG V30.
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ledvedder said:
I'll try that. I really want to love this phone, but I've had a few issues after only 2 days that I never once had with my LG V30.
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Same boat here, I love this phone and want to keep it. Seems to be better but fingers crossed. I had a V30 as well
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As soon as Oreo hit the V30, I actually had network issues there too, kind of like what you described for your 6T. seem to get better after a couple of updates for me

Unlocked on T-Mobile and no issues whatsoever

I noticed I have connection issues as well. I'll close out whatever app is having problems and restart the app, but it's over multiple apps. So I'm not sure, what's causing the drop outs

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I noticed I have connection issues as well. I'll close out whatever app is having problems and restart the app, but it's over multiple apps. So I'm not sure, what's causing the drop outs
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I'm glad it's not just me.
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I'm glad it's not just me.
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Usually with devices this new or doesn't bother me too much. I'm sure we're not the only ones and it'll get fixed sooner or later

This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.

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This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.
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Thanks for this, this used to drive me nuts on my T-Mobile V30 in Los Angeles, especially once the phone was updated to Oreo for some reason. Now on my OnePlus 6T, I was getting a lot of times where the signal just completely drops out and then reconnects usually within 5 or 10 seconds.

Cruised thru a couple different towns and had no issues with T-Mobile today
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ryude said:
This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.
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So I've been tracking the issue, been having lots of dropouts this morning here in Los Angeles. From using the app it seems like I'm usually on band 4, but when the connection drops out and reconnects, then I'm on band 2, but will be back on band 4 after a couple minutes. Do you think this is definitely the network and not my phone, I need to determine whether to send the phone back, which I don't really want to do.

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So I've been tracking the issue, been having lots of dropouts this morning here in Los Angeles. From using the app it seems like I'm usually on band 4, but when the connection drops out and reconnects, then I'm on band 2, but will be back on band 4 after a couple minutes. Do you think this is definitely the network and not my phone, I need to determine whether to send the phone back, which I don't really want to do.
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Yeah that's network. The towers are kicking you off because it's congested. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn't have the capacity to handle the huge increase in subscribers that they have gotten over the last year or two.

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Yeah that's network. The towers are kicking you off because it's congested. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn't have the capacity to handle the huge increase in subscribers that they have gotten over the last year or two.
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Ok thanks ? Makes sense

I am experiencing the same issue not only in US but also in other countries.

You can also use signal spy to check with bands you're currently receiving, and it'll give you a good idea of what kind of coverage you're looking at. It'll specify the signal strength, type of band you're currently using, and more. Highly recommended if you want to know what your signal is looking like.