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Hello, I currently have an S3 and my upgrade is due in October. I intended to get the S5, but because the bootloader is locked, I'm just not sure. You can't flash AOSP with safestrap (From what I hear) and you can't flash custom kernels. Will there ever be a way around this, or should I wait for other phones? If so, what ones should I look at? Thanks for all replies!
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Hello, I currently have an S3 and my upgrade is due in October. I intended to get the S5, but because the bootloader is locked, I'm just not sure. You can't flash AOSP with safestrap (From what I hear) and you can't flash custom kernels. Will there ever be a way around this, or should I wait for other phones? If so, what ones should I look at? Thanks for all replies!
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Well, unfortunately the S5 will most likely have a locked bootloader forever, unless someone finds a way around it, and that is highly unlikely. It's not just Samsung or the S5, it is getting harder and harder to find exploits for root much less getting around a lock bootloader. If you like the S5 maybe you should consider the Developer Edition of the S5 which has a factory unlocked bootloader, but they are also around $650.00 from Samsung. The only current phone that is "wide open" that I know of is the HTC M8. The big 4 manufactures (Samsung, HTC, Motorola, LG) are all making it harder and harder to even root the phone much less getting around the locked bootloader (HTC as mention is the current exception).
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Well, unfortunately the S5 will most likely have a locked bootloader forever, unless someone finds a way around it, and that is highly unlikely. It's not just Samsung or the S5, it is getting harder and harder to find exploits for root much less getting around a lock bootloader. If you like the S5 maybe you should consider the Developer Edition of the S5 which has a factory unlocked bootloader, but they are also around $650.00 from Samsung. The only current phone that is "wide open" that I know of is the HTC M8. The big 4 manufactures (Samsung, HTC, Motorola, LG) are all making it harder and harder to even root the phone much less getting around the locked bootloader (HTC as mention is the current exception).
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Thank you for the reply, and that is unfortunate. I really hope the other manufactures see the light soon like HTC still does. I might just get the M8 or their next flagship phone.
LegoFarmer said:
Thank you for the reply, and that is unfortunate. I really hope the other manufactures see the light soon like HTC still does. I might just get the M8 or their next flagship phone.
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I heard safestrap support will end in September, so I'm not sure if Android L roms would be available with safestrap.
Don't forget that when it comes to the bootloader, it is really the carriers and not so much the manufacturers who are to blame. The Verizon and AT&T S5s have locked bootloaders, but the T-Mobile and Sprint versions do not have a locked bootloader. So people who want unlocked bootloaders should look more at switching carrires rather than phone manufacturers. I know this is not always possible considering coverage based on where people live. Unfortunately, Verizon seems to have the best coverage and best network, and they are determined to have locked bootloaders.
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Don't forget that when it comes to the bootloader, it is really the carriers and not so much the manufacturers who are to blame. The Verizon and AT&T S5s have locked bootloaders, but the T-Mobile and Sprint versions do not have a locked bootloader. So people who want unlocked bootloaders should look more at switching carrires rather than phone manufacturers. I know this is not always possible considering coverage based on where people live. Unfortunately, Verizon seems to have the best coverage and best network, and they are determined to have locked bootloaders.
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I just don't get why they care so much, you know? The only real reason I can think of is inexperienced people bricking their phones and trying to warranty it from them.
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I just don't get why they care so much, you know? The only real reason I can think of is inexperienced people bricking their phones and trying to warranty it from them.
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That and trying to secure corporate and government contracts to supply phones. Both entities are looking for as much security as they can get in the phones their employees use.
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That and trying to secure corporate and government contracts to supply phones. Both entities are looking for as much security as they can get in the phones their employees use.
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This. My company had a byod going on, but if you wanted a corporate provided phone, Blackberry was only choice. 9930 at that.
3 weeks ago I got them to approve a Galaxy S 5 for me because of the Knox support and what not.
I was able to root it, remove bloatware at least, block ota, then unroot and reenroll in our emails.
Nexus 6P Unlocked can be used on all carriers. Will there be a Galaxy S7 Unlocked which follows? I will be sold if so...
You cant just buy a phone from a carrier and expect to flash an unlocked ROM on it. Partitions are different most of the time, etc...
My main concern is the speed of which updates are released. A carrier phone can take months longer than an unlocked phone. Yeah you can download custom ROMs here on XDA, but it's not the same and could have issues due to carrier kernel not being released.
Definitely a make or break deal for me at this point...
I really wished there was, but so far all of the carrier models have different bands, and I haven't heard of a US unlocked model that works for all of them.
I can't decide if it is worth the fight, or if I should just fall in line, and buy at&t's Fort Knox Edition.
They're a little more pricy (read +$200/300), but you can pre-order unlocked Qualcomm variants on eBay.
It's a hell of a markup, but if you're already paying $800 for a phone you're gonna use for the next couple years, may as well get one that's unlocked and will do what you want i.e. run AOSP, no?
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They're a little more pricy (read +$200/300), but you can pre-order unlocked Qualcomm variants on eBay.
It's a hell of a markup, but if you're already paying $800 for a phone you're gonna use for the next couple years, may as well get one that's unlocked and will do what you want i.e. run AOSP, no?
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I'm sorry, but there's no reason anyone should be paying more than $800 for an S7 Edge, even if it's unlocked.
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I'm sorry, but there's no reason anyone should be paying more than $800 for an S7 Edge, even if it's unlocked.
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Agreed, S7 Edge should be about $800 unlocked tops. Unfortunately there won't be unlocked phones until the actual release.
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I'm sorry, but there's no reason anyone should be paying more than $800 for an S7 Edge, even if it's unlocked.
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Different folks different strokes.
I paid $816 for mine. Still cheaper than signing contracts when said and done.
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Tidbits said:
Different folks different strokes.
I paid $816 for mine. Still cheaper than signing contracts when said and done.
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I meant before taxes
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What was the time between the Samsung s6 edge pre-order and when the unlocked international versions came out? Because my UK s6 edge is soooooooo much better than the AT&T US version I originally bought and returned. I definitely want to just skip to the UK unlocked version this time around... but, of course, I don't want to wait a long time.
I'm assuming the s7 rollout will be similar, so that will let us know when the unlocked Samsung s7 edges can be expected. (I was an iPhone person until recently, so I don't know my Samsung history).
Thanks in advance for any info.
(For anyone wondering, not only was there that US AT&T bloatware nonsense -- but they actually removed cool things Samsung had added and removed deals and freeware Samsung had added to the phone. Just crazy. Things would be mentioned in the manual and not be on the phone anywhere. And then of course the bad updates as well.)
im the guy waiting for S7edge with S820 and choosing Snapdragon is of course to get update faster and support by the custom rom community than Exynos version.
As one of a guy responded in Reddit chat is to start ordering UNLOCKED SIM Samsung S7 from ebay would be the easiest and fastest option... I am ouside of US and really don't want to wait indefinitely their not-sure-release-date Carrier Unlocked version. Below is the one that I am watching closely. As it said Pre-order, I am a bit afraid of the RISK of ordering a phone that cost >1000$ without seeing actual unlocked & S820 phone as they mention.
[EDIT: can't put links due to lower posts count] googled this eBay item number:281944393668
tmobile unlock or wait?
I'm in the same boat here, although my situation is a little unique. I'm on Tmobile right now but I'm going to move to Thailand this summer, so the phone needs to be unlocked. According to tmobile they'll unlock the phone after i'ts been on the network for 40 days (I'm planning on buying it upfront). Should I go that route or just wait until the unlocked version shows up on amazon and just buy that?
Cheers
(Also, does anyone know how long it took for the unlocked s6 to show up on amazon?)
40 days of service active if you actually on postpaid. If it is prepaid it's $100 worth of payments.
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All the carriers get the unlock code from Samsung... if you contact Samsung, T-Mobile users might not need to wait the 40 days. I just preordered the T-Mobile S7 Edge, and I'm with AT&T.
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All the carriers get the unlock code from Samsung... if you contact Samsung, T-Mobile users might not need to wait the 40 days. I just preordered the T-Mobile S7 Edge, and I'm with AT&T.
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Did you have to get a mobile plan with them? They told me at the store that is the only way
T-Mobile no longer use codes. They use a unlock app. There is no way so far to input any codes to date on the devices that have it preinstalled.
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Hey how do Samsung's devices do on Verizon?. Will there be less development for devices from Verizon? Are they locked down a lot more and harder to root? It he a deal breaker for me. Anyone have any idea ?
Would a Verizon phone work well on tmobile?
Yes but the bootloader will be locked down.
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Well the Verizon will work well in most cases on T-Mobile however Verizon phones will always have a locked down bootloader. So if you buy it be prepared to potentially never unlock it for a very long time.
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Tidbits said:
Yes but the bootloader will be locked down.
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Well the Verizon will work well in most cases on T-Mobile however Verizon phones will always have a locked down bootloader. So if you buy it be prepared to potentially never unlock it for a very long time.
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Thanks! So the best option would be Tmo?
If you want Wi-Fi calling , RCS, and VoLTE it's probably preferred. If you plan on rooting and custom Roms. Then T-Mobile is a good choice. T-Mobile for the past 4 years has always left it up to the manufacturer to either lock it or leave it. So far all but Sony have unlocked or unlockable bootloaders.
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Release date Friday March 11th countrywide for all Canadian carriers. Bell, Rogers, Telus, Wind and Videotron confirmed.
I have pre-ordered my S7 edge black onyx for bell.
Anyone else pre-order yet?
Model information:
Exynos chipset confirmed.
S7 G930W8
S7 Edge G935W8
The only reason I'm not getting the s7 is because the Canadian version is only exynos and does not work for me because I root and change roms.
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The only reason I'm not getting the s7 is because the Canadian version is only exynos and does not work for me because I root and change roms.
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I ordered mine from Best Buy. Black S7 Edge (really wanted the grey tho). Ya, I was reading about the exynos chip. The only thing that interests me is xposed, do you guys think that we would have that at least? I hate the advertising on youtube. I believe it will be fast enough for me not to want any roms (cross fingers).
I still not fully decided tho, I got a Note 4 and works fine but always attracted to new shinny tech
I ordered from Samsung. I went to Bell first but they wouldn't let me order because I wasn't about to sign a contract. Good thing, promo with Samsung is way better, and I get it unlocked.
I don't like the chip either, rather have the 820, but I had a S5 with a Snapdragon and I couldn't find a good ROM with that. I'm going to try this S7 with the stock ROM. I figure with Nova + Icon pack + Material design theme will make TouchWiz mostly a non-issue. And any bloatware I can't uninstall, or disable I figure I can just take away all permissions and hide from the homescreen and app drawer.
I could live with root only and keep stock rom but I NEED viper for Android and if I'm not mistaken v4a does not work on exynos, I could be wrong...
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I ordered from Samsung. I went to Bell first but they wouldn't let me order because I wasn't about to sign a contract. Good thing, promo with Samsung is way better, and I get it unlocked.
I don't like the chip either, rather have the 820, but I had a S5 with a Snapdragon and I couldn't find a good ROM with that. I'm going to try this S7 with the stock ROM. I figure with Nova + Icon pack + Material design theme will make TouchWiz mostly a non-issue. And any bloatware I can't uninstall, or disable I figure I can just take away all permissions and hide from the homescreen and app drawer.
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you mean samsung.ca??? what option did you select for carrier? If i select Rogers it takes me to the Rogers site. Or do you mean you got an international version unlocked??? how.. me interested since apparently Samsung has figured out to permanently locked the carrier to the phone. Basically the first sim (carrier) is loaded to the phone will be permanently locked.
I am with ya man. I had the s6 and note 5 and both run exynos7420. Viper4android worked perfectly.
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nitramus said:
The only reason I'm not getting the s7 is because the Canadian version is only exynos and does not work for me because I root and change roms.
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The only snapdragon versions are being sold in USA and China. You think no development for exynos for the rest of the world?
I had the s6 and note 5 and development for both were excellent.
Pre-ordered mine at Wind, I'm pretty excited. I'm also happy that we get the Exynos version as it will make for greater commonality/compatibility with the rest of the world. I'm hoping it'll make for faster updates?
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you mean samsung.ca??? what option did you select for carrier? If i select Rogers it takes me to the Rogers site. Or do you mean you got an international version unlocked??? how.. me interested since apparently Samsung has figured out to permanently locked the carrier to the phone. Basically the first sim (carrier) is loaded to the phone will be permanently locked.
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Samsung retail store at Sherway Gardens in Toronto. You don't have to pick a carrier there. Don't think you can order it online.
They sales rep said it will lock when you put your SIM in, but they provide you with an unlock code. You also get the VR and a 128GB microSD card, that's a better promo than anyone else has.
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Samsung retail store at Sherway Gardens in Toronto. You don't have to pick a carrier there. Don't think you can order it online.
They sales rep said it will lock when you put your SIM in, but they provide you with an unlock code. You also get the VR and a 128GB microSD card, that's a better promo than anyone else has.
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wow, that is awesome plus a great bonus bonus extra! I am going there tonite and cancelling my Best Buy one!!! so global (i am assuming international) is the SM-G935F, is that what you ordered? (I will confirm tonite). I hope We get to chose colors rather than just black. Thanks!!!
Ya, also if everyone is getting exynos (except our friends and US and China), I would guess support will be improved. Now i am pumped.
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wow, that is awesome plus a great bonus bonus extra! I am going there tonite and cancelling my Best Buy one!!! so global (i am assuming international) is the SM-G935F, is that what you ordered? (I will confirm tonite). I hope We get to chose colors rather than just black. Thanks!!!
Ya, also if everyone is getting exynos (except our friends and US and China), I would guess support will be improved. Now i am pumped.
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Don't know version it is. If you're going, ask about the microSD card. They only told me about the VR but I've seen several people comment online that the memory card is included also.
I think you can get other colors, but the black is the only one that will be available on the 11th from what I've read.
will check it out and post my findings.
All Canadian versions ended in W8
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wifesabitch said:
I ordered from Samsung. I went to Bell first but they wouldn't let me order because I wasn't about to sign a contract. Good thing, promo with Samsung is way better, and I get it unlocked.
I don't like the chip either, rather have the 820, but I had a S5 with a Snapdragon and I couldn't find a good ROM with that. I'm going to try this S7 with the stock ROM. I figure with Nova + Icon pack + Material design theme will make TouchWiz mostly a non-issue. And any bloatware I can't uninstall, or disable I figure I can just take away all permissions and hide from the homescreen and app drawer.
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Is the VR and 128GB promotion only for preorders?
nitramus said:
The only reason I'm not getting the s7 is because the Canadian version is only exynos and does not work for me because I root and change roms.
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You can root and change roms on exynos, most likely only touchwiz roms at first but im sure there will be an aosp rom eventually, there's one being cooked right now for the s6.
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The only thing that interests me is xposed, do you guys think that we would have that at least?
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Of course http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
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Is the VR and 128GB promotion only for preorders?
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Can't say for sure, but I would guess it's certainly a limited time promotion.
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Can't say for sure, but I would guess it's certainly a limited time promotion.
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oh ok. $1000 kinda sucks though since out dollar is so weak, so i might end up selling the VR to recoup some money lol
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oh ok. $1000 kinda sucks though since out dollar is so weak, so i might end up selling the VR to recoup some money lol
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Tell me about it. When I first saw the price I thought no way I was getting this. Changed my mind after the initial shock subsided.
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Tell me about it. When I first saw the price I thought no way I was getting this. Changed my mind after the initial shock subsided.
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The rep at sherway didn't tell me the price because he said they were instructed not too, probably because it would give everyone a heart attack.
I just got my S7 Edge and when I was ordering, I didn't even think to look, I made the mistake of assuming there would be some root solution. Other than a long guide which essentially says "good luck" if you are on the latest software version (which I couldn't help because I just got the phone). What happened? I know the bootloader was locked, is that the main culprit here? Did all the modders just switch carriers and devices?
Are the "one-click root" days gone for Samsung devices? Also, can anyone advise an ETA on a root for PJ2? Sprint is charging, get this, $20 for 2 gig hotspot and $50 for 6 gigs...
Best phone I've ever owned. Zero dev support. I accepted it months ago. Root Solutions there but risky. Security just too tight on this one. What a shame too....
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I just got my S7 Edge and when I was ordering, I didn't even think to look, I made the mistake of assuming there would be some root solution. Other than a long guide which essentially says "good luck" if you are on the latest software version (which I couldn't help because I just got the phone). What happened? I know the bootloader was locked, is that the main culprit here? Did all the modders just switch carriers and devices?
Are the "one-click root" days gone for Samsung devices? Also, can anyone advise an ETA on a root for PJ2? Sprint is charging, get this, $20 for 2 gig hotspot and $50 for 6 gigs...
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Yea unfortunately i did the same thing! I absolutely love the phone, but without root, for me i am barely able to harness half the power of this beast! I really hope something comes out soon. I was in a similar boat with my s6 edge+ but i at least had moar rom which i LOVED, and miss so much!
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I just got my S7 Edge and when I was ordering, I didn't even think to look, I made the mistake of assuming there would be some root solution. Other than a long guide which essentially says "good luck" if you are on the latest software version (which I couldn't help because I just got the phone). What happened? I know the bootloader was locked, is that the main culprit here? Did all the modders just switch carriers and devices?
Are the "one-click root" days gone for Samsung devices? Also, can anyone advise an ETA on a root for PJ2? Sprint is charging, get this, $20 for 2 gig hotspot and $50 for 6 gigs...
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Same exact deal for me. I'm very tempted to return the thing. Most of my favorite features and apps require root. Right now i'm debating whether it's worth keeping the phone in the hopes that a root will become available soon or stick with my note 4 and sacrifice newer features and samsung vr.
I'm pretty much sold on the thing, since I can unload my 3T at the same time--but a few questions first.
1: Can anyone test Samsung gear watches with the phone? I've read Samsung pay only works if you sideload the gear app, but would prefer it working 100% since I plan on staying unrooted.
2: VPNs have caused some issues on past carrier phones, basically using hotspot data rather than regular data. Can anyone just run a quick test to make sure this isn't the case? Mostly for use of Blokada.
3: Does RCS work? I know TMobile was rolling it out by device, but it seems this would be the perfect time to add it with the 6T.
Thanks!
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I'm pretty much sold on the thing, since I can unload my 3T at the same time--but a few questions first.
1: Can anyone test Samsung gear watches with the phone? I've read Samsung pay only works if you sideload the gear app, but would prefer it working 100% since I plan on staying unrooted.
2: VPNs have caused some issues on past carrier phones, basically using hotspot data rather than regular data. Can anyone just run a quick test to make sure this isn't the case? Mostly for use of Blokada.
3: Does RCS work? I know TMobile was rolling it out by device, but it seems this would be the perfect time to add it with the 6T.
Thanks!
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1. Setup my gear s3 and it works perfectly. Everything is sideloaded as you install from the galaxy Wearable app.
2. This device already seems to have a private VPN set up as default, didn't touch it but it gives you the option to add.
3. RCS I'm assuming does not work and depends on tmobile actually activating them over an OTA update.
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1. Setup my gear s3 and it works perfectly. Everything is sideloaded as you install from the galaxy Wearable app.
2. This device already seems to have a private VPN set up as default, didn't touch it but it gives you the option to add.
3. RCS I'm assuming does not work and depends on tmobile actually activating them over an OTA update.
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Thanks for the quick reply. For the gear stuff, I know it sideload through wear but I had read with the OP6 you had to get S-Pay from an apk mirror. Have you tested pay and it all works?
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Thanks for the quick reply. For the gear stuff, I know it sideload through wear but I had read with the OP6 you had to get S-Pay from an apk mirror. Have you tested pay and it all works?
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Haven't tried it, rocking it right now and it seems fine just when I had my v30. I can verify later on when I go put gas. I'll keep you updated if anything.
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Haven't tried it, rocking it right now and it seems fine just when I had my v30. I can verify later on when I go put gas. I'll keep you updated if anything.
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Awesome, appreciate it!
I'm pretty disappointed that RCS nor the Samsung/LG version work. It is super important to me, believe it or not. I'm hoping they release an update for this to work sometime soon.
cd85233 said:
I'm pretty disappointed that RCS nor the Samsung/LG version work. It is super important to me, believe it or not. I'm hoping they release an update for this to work sometime soon.
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It's silly, I agree. Since it's a carrier backed phone it should be available from the get go.
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It's silly, I agree. Since it's a carrier backed phone it should be available from the get go.
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Yea I got a feeling they maybe rushed this release a bit? They've never released with tmobile. Well see.
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Yea I got a feeling they maybe rushed this release a bit? They've never released with tmobile. Well see.
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It's a TMobile issue not OP, sadly. No idea why they're doing it in stages and by phone.
My TMobile version does not have the hold power button down to activate Google Assistant feature. Is everyone else missing this?
I got some tmobile variant questions aswell?
Im from México but my brother is on vacation in USS.. in thinking on buying the oneplus but im a little confused about unlocking the phone... Some people say i have to use it with tmobile for 40 days to be able to unlock it even if i make the full pay for it.. othe people say you can unlock it the same day you full pay for it with the tmobile app..
So, can someone confirm who is correct with this because i wont like my brother to buy me the phone and then cant use it because of locked sim..
Also another question.. do you know if later we could install the international firmware on the tmobile version and get the updates directly from oneplus??
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renehd2 said:
I got some tmobile variant questions aswell?
Im from México but my brother is on vacation in USS.. in thinking on buying the oneplus but im a little confused about unlocking the phone... Some people say i have to use it with tmobile for 40 days to be able to unlock it even if i make the full pay for it.. othe people say you can unlock it the same day you full pay for it with the tmobile app..
So, can someone confirm who is correct with this because i wont like my brother to buy me the phone and then cant use it because of locked sim..
Also another question.. do you know if later we could install the international firmware on the tmobile version and get the updates directly from oneplus??
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1) SIM Unlocking:
YMMV,only way you'll know for certain is trying it yourself. My recent experiences w/Customer Care lead me to believe they'll accommodate you.
2) Int'l ROM flashing onto a T-Mobile variant.
No,that is not possible. Perhaps some aftermarket ROM will be available later,but,no ,not at this time,official,or,otherwise.
Updates will come from T-Mobile.
If you're gonna buy it outright,why bother w/T-Mobile anyway,just skip the hassles & go for the unlocked version.....................
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1) SIM Unlocking:
YMMV,only way you'll know for certain is trying it yourself. My recent experiences w/Customer Care lead me to believe they'll accommodate you.
2) Int'l ROM flashing onto a T-Mobile variant.
No,that is not possible. Perhaps some aftermarket ROM will be available later,but,no ,not at this time,official,or,otherwise.
Updates will come from T-Mobile.
If you're gonna buy it outright,why bother w/T-Mobile anyway,just skip the hassles & go for the unlocked version.....................
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Because TMobile will allow you to buy the phone for 280 out the door with an approved trade-in device.
This is my current situation....I like to tinker and flash ROMs/mods. Hopefully if I end up with the Tmo version, I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs once development gets going for the device.
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Because TMobile will allow you to buy the phone for 280 out the door with an approved trade-in device.
This is my current situation....I like to tinker and flash ROMs/mods. Hopefully if I end up with the Tmo version, I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs once development gets going for the device.
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Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Ah, I gotcha.
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Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Yeah the problem is that my brother. Cannot wait to receive the international model via mail because he is coming back to mexico tuesday
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Well it looks like I'll be ordering from OP directly. It seems if I pay 280 and get the device I'll still pay 12 dollars and change a month until I hit the 570 mark to have the device "paid in full." I guess the 300 dollars goes towards savings on the bill. I read comments on here saying even if you buy the phone from TMobile, in order to "buy it outright" you still have to pay the full price of the phone. I need an unlocked bootloader and root so I guess I'll just pay OP directly.
Pain-N-Panic said:
Well it looks like I'll be ordering from OP directly. It seems if I pay 280 and get the device I'll still pay 12 dollars and change a month until I hit the 570 mark to have the device "paid in full." I guess the 300 dollars goes towards savings on the bill. I read comments on here saying even if you buy the phone from TMobile, in order to "buy it outright" you still have to pay the full price of the phone. I need an unlocked bootloader and root so I guess I'll just pay OP directly.
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Yeah it's really only a good deal if you're already or going to stay a T-Mobile customer. You wait a couple of months for the billing discount to kick in and you pay off your device in full. After that you'll still get your discount every month and you'll be able to unlock your sim card and unlock your bootloader.
hartleyshc said:
Yeah it's really only a good deal if you're already or going to stay a T-Mobile customer. You wait a couple of months for the billing discount to kick in and you pay off your device in full. After that you'll still get your discount every month and you'll be able to unlock your sim card and unlock your bootloader.
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I am a TMobile customer and plan on staying with them. Flashing the latest updates is kind of a big deal to me....I've been a Nexus/pixel user for years and am not use to being locked down by carrier restrictions when it comes to unlocking devices. I just don't feel like dealing with the clutter and hassle of having sift through the carrier's rules before doing what I want with my phone.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I am a TMobile customer and plan on staying with them. Flashing the latest updates is kind of a big deal to me....I've been a Nexus/pixel user for years and am not use to being locked down by carrier restrictions when it comes to unlocking devices. I just don't feel like dealing with the clutter and hassle of having sift through the carrier's rules before doing what I want with my phone.
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I agree, and I'm the exact same way. I've been on T-Mobile forever and have had a Nexus device since the Nexus 4. I had a Galaxy 4 for work and hated it.
This is my first carrier device pretty much ever. Before the Nexus 4 I was using the HTC HD2 and before that I was using Palm Windows and Palm OS devices.
Pretty much the way I see it is if this is too much of a pain, I can always sell it and go with my original plan of getting a used Pixel 2 XL on swappa.
I'll give it a chance. The price was just too good to pass. And I'm fairly confident in OP's laziness on locking down this phone. I have a feeling it will be pretty simple to swap over to the international rom, and if not, at most we'll have to wait a day for someone to repack the official rom removing the modem and/or bootloader. And if not, on to swappa it goes.