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Getting a carrier unbranded phone?

Will it be possible to get a carrier unbraded s7? I'm with at&t because of my grandfathered UDP. I'm coming from a gs5 with a locked boot loader and i'm pretty unhappy with being stuck with the stock rom.

anaxagorasbc said:
Will it be possible to get a carrier unbraded s7? I'm with at&t because of my grandfathered UDP. I'm coming from a gs5 with a locked boot loader and i'm pretty unhappy with being stuck with the stock rom.
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I on ATT and always buy the TMOBILE phones and then use them on ATT network.
I wish I could buy an unlocked phone from Best Buy or someplace but haven't been able to ever find any - so I use TMOBILE phones and they work nicely and have never been locked

Buy locked phone from any carrier and after that you can unlock it by contacting cellphone unlocking sites.

You need to call first At&t first before switching to unbranded phone. Yes, it is possible to do so Thanks

mocsab said:
I on ATT and always buy the TMOBILE phones and then use them on ATT network.
I wish I could buy an unlocked phone from Best Buy or someplace but haven't been able to ever find any - so I use TMOBILE phones and they work nicely and have never been locked
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How? They want me to join T-Mobile to buy a phone.

sireniankyle said:
How? They want me to join T-Mobile to buy a phone.
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yup - they do - I have a secondary TMOBILE account that I have my son using - I buy the new phones when they come out - move them to my ATT account and then give my kind my old phone - (he pays me back) but I have read where others simply cancel the tmobile account after they get the phone and have unlocked the sim card. you do need to pay in full if you do that - but it's one way to get one.

mocsab said:
yup - they do - I have a secondary TMOBILE account that I have my son using - I buy the new phones when they come out - move them to my ATT account and then give my kind my old phone - (he pays me back) but I have read where others simply cancel the tmobile account after they get the phone and have unlocked the sim card. you do need to pay in full if you do that - but it's one way to get one.
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I guess I have no choice. I have to pay a $50 deposit, and $15 for a sim kit.....

sireniankyle said:
I guess I have no choice. I have to pay a $50 deposit, and $15 for a sim kit.....
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Better than paying 200 more to buy an unlocked from EBAY -

Interested, but does AT&T (or TMobile) un-screw the phone when they unlock it? My AT&T S6 edge (which I returned for the 925f unlocked) had features removed, bundles/deals removed, and bloatware infested. Just unlocking the sim slot doesn't fix those things, right? When I got the new unlocked phone it was an amazingly better experience -- pretty impressive how crappy AT&T can make a great phone.
I'd love to not have to wait for the international unlocked phones to show up. But I'm not going to take any carrier phone-screwage.

Once you get Root on a phone, you can use this app to Uninstall system apps.....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp

mocsab said:
I on ATT and always buy the TMOBILE phones and then use them on ATT network.
I wish I could buy an unlocked phone from Best Buy or someplace but haven't been able to ever find any - so I use TMOBILE phones and they work nicely and have never been locked
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Bestbuy guy told me that they can order unlocked S7 several weeks after it's released. I was actually considering buying a tm version for att use. Just need to ask my friends for help. How much bloatware does tm version have and can they be uninstalled?
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yiyi28 said:
Bestbuy guy told me that they can order unlocked S7 several weeks after it's released. I was actually considering buying a tm version for att use. Just need to ask my friends for help. How much bloatware does tm version have and can they be uninstalled?
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Good to hear that Best Buy will help you buy unlocked versions - in terms of bloat - Tmobile isn't so bad - and once you are rooted you can remove everything prety much - never been a problem for me....
Either way - good luck to you my friend...

mocsab said:
Good to hear that Best Buy will help you buy unlocked versions - in terms of bloat - Tmobile isn't so bad - and once you are rooted you can remove everything prety much - never been a problem for me....
Either way - good luck to you my friend...
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Thanks.Ya I was just told but haven't really tried to buy a unlocked Samsung with them. It's always hard to get a unbranded Samsung flagship in those stores.
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mocsab said:
Good to hear that Best Buy will help you buy unlocked versions - in terms of bloat - Tmobile isn't so bad - and once you are rooted you can remove everything prety much - never been a problem for me....
Either way - good luck to you my friend...
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Does T-Mobile version replace the boot animation from Samsung to T-Mobile logo?

schn1tt3r said:
Does T-Mobile version replace the boot animation from Samsung to T-Mobile logo?
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No. Samsung boot animation. But followed by a usually very bright TMo splash screen.

Dr. Fed said:
No. Samsung boot animation. But followed by a usually very bright TMo splash screen.
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I guess, after root, that animation can be removed though right?

schn1tt3r said:
I guess, after root, that animation can be removed though right?
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I don't know. Maybe.

I ordered direct from Samsung so it will be unlocked, probably an XEU firmware.

schn1tt3r said:
I guess, after root, that animation can be removed though right?
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With root, one can change the boot animations.
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I dont want to pay extra haha . and really want the gear VR this time.

Unlocked Snapdragon available for Verizon?

I get that the S7 you can buy direct from Verizon is pretty much going to be locked down for a long time, if it ever gets broken. But it looks like a pretty awesome phone, and I'm genuinely thinking of trading up for one.
So, can I buy an unlocked version from somewhere that I can use with Verizon, one that allows root and xposed? Is the only option for this the Exynos version? Or are all of the phones locked down, even if they're not tied to a carrier?
Alternatively, if there is a way to get a rootable Snapdragon but I have to switch carriers, which carriers would be best for this?
Lastly, if there is no way at all to get a rootable Snapdragon variant, what's everyone's pick for the best new rootable phones? I've heard things about the G5, but that's starting to look closer to the S7 situation than anything.
Thanks for any info!

There is no rootable s7 that will work for Verizon. It's a waiting game at this point.

JAYNO20 said:
There is no rootable s7 that will work for Verizon. It's a waiting game at this point.
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That sucks. I was hoping there was an international or developer version or something. I'd pay the full price for it, too. Maybe a Nexus is in my future.

SanguiniusWept said:
That sucks. I was hoping there was an international or developer version or something. I'd pay the full price for it, too. Maybe a Nexus is in my future.
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I had a developer edition of the Galaxy S5 and I'd KILL for a developer edition S7... I don't know why they don't make them for every single phone they release.

JAYNO20 said:
I had a developer edition of the Galaxy S5 and I'd KILL for a developer edition S7... I don't know why they don't make them for every single phone they release.
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Or why all phones can't just have this as an option that is supremely hard to get to, but available for those who want to do it. Just have it trip something that voids the warranty, but make the user aware this will happen. I, for one, would most likely still do it, warranty be damned.

AT&T Should be in original box w/ default accessories and not be branded by logo

This is what I received back. Not a 100% guarantee but promising no stupid logo or missing earbuds and hopefully the beautiful black box and not an ugly AT&T one!
View attachment 4108117

what's the difference if you're leasing it from the carrier?

None really besides being able to network unlock it. Its just preference. If leasing you dont really own the phone but can upgrade if on NEXT easy if the phone stays undamaged when you trade it in. I prefer to buy my phones outright but thats just me.

johnwayne27 said:
This is what I received back. Not a 100% guarantee but promising no stupid logo or missing earbuds and hopefully the beautiful black box and not an ugly AT&T one!
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The S6 and S7 both had the normal box, and if i recall correctly, every Galaxy aside from the Notes have had the headphones in the package. Im looking at my s7 box right now and its the black box that just says S7 Edge on it.

Alright I just pre-ordered the s8 plus directly from the att store and I noticed on the confirmation email that the model # of the phone is for the U model? Can you guys check your reciepts and see if yours is like that also. The one they had on demo at the att store was a U model also.......kinda weird.....
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The T-Mobile receipts aren't as detailed. Just that it's been ordered. Strange thing is I got the "shipped" email that when you click the tracking number shows it "will" ship on the 20th. Why show "shipped" if it hasn't?

Quickvic30 said:
Alright I just pre-ordered the s8 plus directly from the att store and I noticed on the confirmation email that the model # of the phone is for the U model? Can you guys check your reciepts and see if yours is like that also. The one they had on demo at the att store was a U model also.......kinda weird.....
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My Verizon is like that, directly from Samsung:

Outbreak444 said:
My Verizon is like that, directly from Samsung:
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Interesting.....wouldn't that be something if we all recieved U models flashed with your carriers firmware. I guess that's pretty much how it is now with the S7 and s7e, you can flash any carriers firmware on any carriers S7 or s7e.
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Quickvic30 said:
Interesting.....wouldn't that be something if we all recieved U models flashed with your carriers firmware. I guess that's pretty much how it is now with the S7 and s7e, you can flash any carriers firmware on any carriers S7 or s7e.
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That's what I'm hoping for, I still have the grandfathered UDP plan with Verizon so if I want to use hotspot I have to pay for it. But not with the, what I guess would still be the U firmware.

Outbreak444 said:
That's what I'm hoping for, I still have the grandfathered UDP plan with Verizon so if I want to use hotspot I have to pay for it. But not with the, what I guess would still be the U firmware.
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I hear ya on that one, I'm on the att unlimited plan and I have that same issue as you with tethering so I use T-Mobile firmware as a work around. Now that there's root I don't have to do that but TMO firmware has alot less bloat than ATT firmware anyways.

Was in att store here's what they have on it. Can't delete Facebook
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Rs988 New update rs98821b available

This update has just became available today it is only 200mb so I would say it is mainly just android security updates. I have not installed it yet because I will have to factory reset first just wanted to let others know that might be stock and not rooted.

I'm on 21a and downloading 21b now.
Was on 11d, but did the 10b Brightpoint KDZ last month that messed up the LTE. So had to root and reflash the 11c, to then update to 11d and then 21a.

Got 21b installed. May 1 2017 Security update. Everything else says the same (baseband, kernel, and build).

Maybe they at least fixed the network switching so we will receive more of our calls. That is really the only bug i have noticed since upgrading to Nougat. I think you pointed that out as well.
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Got 21b installed. May 1 2017 Security update. Everything else says the same (baseband, kernel, and build).
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firenemesis7 said:
Maybe they at least fixed the network switching so we will receive more of our calls. That is really the only bug i have noticed since upgrading to Nougat. I think you pointed that out as well.
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Yes, the past two weeks with 21a, the main issue has been that the RS988 is missing about half of the incoming class (will stay on LTE and not change to HSPA), or when placing a call about 25-30% of them will not go through on the first try (shows it change from LTE to HSPA and sit there for 30 seconds, and then go back to LTE without placing th call).
Unfortunately, 21b seems to have the same issue.
Over the weekend, I was debating on going with the HTC U11 or an S8/S8+ in the upcoming weeks, was going to wait for people on here to try out the U11 for a while. But the yesterday the Samsung Mobile EBay page had the S8+ listed for $699 and with 24mo payment with PqyPal Credit. So I figured fro $50 more than the U11, go with th S8+, not that I'm a fan of curved screens, but at least there is a 3.5mm headphone jack, has SamsungPay, and the screen is AMOLED (which is miss). But the draws of the U11 was the camera, non-curved screed (though LCD), and fingerprint scanner on the front. But the lack of headphone jack means it can't be charged while connected via AUX input to my cars audio, and I saw posts on here about HTC got rid of all their apps (gallery, mms, dialer, calendar) and opted for the Google ones that aren't as good. So at this point I sould have the S8+ later this week. If I like it, then I'll sell my G5 with all the accessories that came with it (Cam mod, 4 batteries, charging pack, VR headset).

Hi! If I have root and TWRP then how do I install the update?

spinoza_web said:
Hi! If I have root and TWRP then how do I install the update?
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As far as I know, OTA updates will only install if you are 100%stock. So that means removing TWRP, unrooting, and relocking the bootloader.

How I did it. I just factory reset and wiped everything in twrp then flashed the complete rs98821a zip that autoprime put together for us and then was able to install the OTA update. You will have to reinstall Twrp and root but you do not have to mess with the bootloader.
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Hi! If I have root and TWRP then how do I install the update?
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I got in the S8+ yesterday. After using it for a day and setting it up, I'm not 100% sure that I'll keep it. The regular S8 was out of stock and I'm not a big fan of curved screens. But I figured I'd give it a try.
But regarding the calling issue with the G5 (21a/21b), the S8+ is much faster between changing modes between LTE Data and HSPA Calls. So that right there proves the issue isn't related to the GoPhone service, as I never had any issue on the G5 before the Nougat update.
Too bad I still can get the S8+ to work with the K-9 Mail LED Notifications. Must be an issue with that app and Android 7.

FAUguy said:
I got in the S8+ yesterday. After using it for a day and setting it up, I'm not 100% sure that I'll keep it. The regular S8 was out of stock and I'm not a big fan of curved screens. But I figured I'd give it a try.
But regarding the calling issue with the G5 (21a/21b), the S8+ is much faster between changing modes between LTE Data and HSPA Calls. So that right there proves the issue isn't related to the GoPhone service, as I never had any issue on the G5 before the Nougat update.
Too bad I still can get the S8+ to work with the K-9 Mail LED Notifications. Must be an issue with that app and Android 7.
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Looks like you got S8+, so, which version did you get? G955U or G955F? And how is Samsung pay? Does the Spay rewards and deals work?

justnewbee said:
Looks like you got S8+, so, which version did you get? G955U or G955F? And how is Samsung pay? Does the Spay rewards and deals work?
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The Samsung eBay page had the S8 G950U for $599 and the S8+ G955U for $699, along with a 24 month PayPal Credit financing. I has intended to go with the S8, but after I got home that night, only the S8+ was still available.
After using it for a few days now, it is really too tall for comfort, and a bit more heavy than I like (actually the weight of the phone is mostly at the top, so when used in landscape mode I can feel more of the weight on the left hand), keep in mind the Note 4 is about the same weight, but feels more comfortable to hold than the S8+.
From what I've read, the US Unlocked "U" models work with Samsung Pay and Rewards. I have it installed and all setup on the phone, but haven't tried it in a store yet. The "F" International models I read don't work with Samsung Pay in the US unless you do some flashing and tricking it out, but can still have issues. So I decided not to go with the F model, but would rather have the exynos processor than the 835.
Right now, Samsung.com has the S8 (and S8+) with a $200 trade in offer, so I'm going to go that route and get the S8 and sent in my old Note 2 (since they sell for less than $200 on eBay and Swappa) and hold on to my Note 3 and 4 for now. Also thinking about ordering the U11 from Amazon. Once I get those in, I can compare the U11, S8 and S8+ and decide which one to keep and return the others.
Normally I would do all this in a store, but Sprint don't have the U11 on display locally.
Once all that get done, then I'll see about selling my G5, do a factory reset on it (21b).

FAUguy said:
The Samsung eBay page had the S8 G950U for $599 and the S8+ G955U for $699, along with a 24 month PayPal Credit financing. I has intended to go with the S8, but after I got home that night, only the S8+ was still available.
After using it for a few days now, it is really too tall for comfort, and a bit more heavy than I like (actually the weight of the phone is mostly at the top, so when used in landscape mode I can feel more of the weight on the left hand), keep in mind the Note 4 is about the same weight, but feels more comfortable to hold than the S8+.
From what I've read, the US Unlocked "U" models work with Samsung Pay and Rewards. I have it installed and all setup on the phone, but haven't tried it in a store yet. The "F" International models I read don't work with Samsung Pay in the US unless you do some flashing and tricking it out, but can still have issues. So I decided not to go with the F model, but would rather have the exynos processor than the 835.
Right now, Samsung.com has the S8 (and S8+) with a $200 trade in offer, so I'm going to go that route and get the S8 and sent in my old Note 2 (since they sell for less than $200 on eBay and Swappa) and hold on to my Note 3 and 4 for now. Also thinking about ordering the U11 from Amazon. Once I get those in, I can compare the U11, S8 and S8+ and decide which one to keep and return the others.
Normally I would do all this in a store, but Sprint don't have the U11 on display locally.
Once all that get done, then I'll see about selling my G5, do a factory reset on it (21b).
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Thanks a lot for your detailed info. I am going to buy US Unlocked "U" model, though I am interested in exynos processor.

justnewbee said:
Thanks a lot for your detailed info. I am going to buy US Unlocked "U" model, though I am interested in exynos processor.
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I ended up buying the S8 from the Samsung site ($624) then take off $200 for a trade-in (will send my old Verizon Note 2 since they only sell for about $100...though would like to keep it), and add tax and $0 for 2-day shipping, and was $450 total. Did the Samsung Credit (24 month).
Going to send the S8+ back (Samsung's eBay page) for $742 credit. So that's a savings of $300 ($100 less for the S8 ad $200 for the trade-in).
The S8+ isn't a bad phone, just a bit too tall and more heavy than I like, so I'm sure the S8 will fit better.

Been using the S8 for a week now, sent the S8+ back.
No calling issues with either one (GoPhone) and I noticed they change much quicker between LTE for data and HSPA for calls than the G5 (21a/b).

FAUguy,
Hi, I have recently found to be in the same issue with LTE BRIGHTPOINT and LTE problems. Can you please read my post and see if you know something I don't?
Thanks
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u/...e-connectivity-problems-t3649465/post73300658

Skimpypimp said:
FAUguy,
Hi, I have recently found to be in the same issue with LTE BRIGHTPOINT and LTE problems. Can you please read my post and see if you know something I don't?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/u/...e-connectivity-problems-t3649465/post73300658
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I read the post. Where did you buy the phone from?
Look at my post on this thread from Page 6 onward:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/calling-rs988-users-nougat-t3608345/page6
I had to do the Bootload Unlock via the LG web site, to then allow rooting of the phone.
Then had to do all the flashing in steps. I wouldn't say it was difficult, but took quite some time to get it all done.

FAUguy said:
I read the post. Where did you buy the phone from?
Look at my post on this thread from Page 6 onward:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/calling-rs988-users-nougat-t3608345/page6
I had to do the Bootload Unlock via the LG web site, to then allow rooting of the phone.
Then had to do all the flashing in steps. I wouldn't say it was difficult, but took quite some time to get it all done.
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Well I guess I'm screwed because even though I have the RS988, when I request the unlock boot loader code from LG it says I can't get it. I got my phone off eBay. Ugh.

Skimpypimp said:
Well I guess I'm screwed because even though I have the RS988, when I request the unlock boot loader code from LG it says I can't get it. I got my phone off eBay. Ugh.
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See if you can do eBay or PayPal buyer protection.
I'd file a claim on it with them if the seller refuses to offer a refund. I'd state that it is not compatible with your carrier (MetroPCS T-Mobile).

FAUguy said:
See if you can do eBay or PayPal buyer protection.
I'd file a claim on it with them if the seller refuses to offer a refund. I'd state that it is not compatible with your carrier (MetroPCS T-Mobile).
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I would hate to go through all that.
Through your adventure did you get any stock firmware flashed without root and not the BRIGHTPOINT version of it?
I think it has something to do with BRIGHTPOINT firmware.

Skimpypimp said:
I would hate to go through all that.
Through your adventure did you get any stock firmware flashed without root and not the BRIGHTPOINT version of it?
I think it has something to do with BRIGHTPOINT firmware.
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The issue is that I didn't know the firmware I flashed on my rs988 was for Brightpoint. After I flashed it , I had 0 LTE on the phone.
So it was a few weeks later when I decided to go though the process. Did the the LG Bootloader unlock, and flashed one of the kdz files that was Android 6 that I had been using. Then worked the phones firmware update from there.
After it was all done, the RS988 with the 21b firmware has full LTE connectivity. The only issue is that if I place a call, and it changes over to HSPA, that it then can take a few minutes to return back to LTE.
I've now been using an S8 for two months, and it changes between LTE, HSPA, and back to LTE within a few seconds.

A few questions for the TMobile Variant

I'm pretty much sold on the thing, since I can unload my 3T at the same time--but a few questions first.
1: Can anyone test Samsung gear watches with the phone? I've read Samsung pay only works if you sideload the gear app, but would prefer it working 100% since I plan on staying unrooted.
2: VPNs have caused some issues on past carrier phones, basically using hotspot data rather than regular data. Can anyone just run a quick test to make sure this isn't the case? Mostly for use of Blokada.
3: Does RCS work? I know TMobile was rolling it out by device, but it seems this would be the perfect time to add it with the 6T.
Thanks!

GiSS88 said:
I'm pretty much sold on the thing, since I can unload my 3T at the same time--but a few questions first.
1: Can anyone test Samsung gear watches with the phone? I've read Samsung pay only works if you sideload the gear app, but would prefer it working 100% since I plan on staying unrooted.
2: VPNs have caused some issues on past carrier phones, basically using hotspot data rather than regular data. Can anyone just run a quick test to make sure this isn't the case? Mostly for use of Blokada.
3: Does RCS work? I know TMobile was rolling it out by device, but it seems this would be the perfect time to add it with the 6T.
Thanks!
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1. Setup my gear s3 and it works perfectly. Everything is sideloaded as you install from the galaxy Wearable app.
2. This device already seems to have a private VPN set up as default, didn't touch it but it gives you the option to add.
3. RCS I'm assuming does not work and depends on tmobile actually activating them over an OTA update.

Addiso said:
1. Setup my gear s3 and it works perfectly. Everything is sideloaded as you install from the galaxy Wearable app.
2. This device already seems to have a private VPN set up as default, didn't touch it but it gives you the option to add.
3. RCS I'm assuming does not work and depends on tmobile actually activating them over an OTA update.
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Thanks for the quick reply. For the gear stuff, I know it sideload through wear but I had read with the OP6 you had to get S-Pay from an apk mirror. Have you tested pay and it all works?

GiSS88 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. For the gear stuff, I know it sideload through wear but I had read with the OP6 you had to get S-Pay from an apk mirror. Have you tested pay and it all works?
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Haven't tried it, rocking it right now and it seems fine just when I had my v30. I can verify later on when I go put gas. I'll keep you updated if anything.

Addiso said:
Haven't tried it, rocking it right now and it seems fine just when I had my v30. I can verify later on when I go put gas. I'll keep you updated if anything.
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Awesome, appreciate it!

I'm pretty disappointed that RCS nor the Samsung/LG version work. It is super important to me, believe it or not. I'm hoping they release an update for this to work sometime soon.

cd85233 said:
I'm pretty disappointed that RCS nor the Samsung/LG version work. It is super important to me, believe it or not. I'm hoping they release an update for this to work sometime soon.
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It's silly, I agree. Since it's a carrier backed phone it should be available from the get go.

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It's silly, I agree. Since it's a carrier backed phone it should be available from the get go.
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Yea I got a feeling they maybe rushed this release a bit? They've never released with tmobile. Well see.

cd85233 said:
Yea I got a feeling they maybe rushed this release a bit? They've never released with tmobile. Well see.
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It's a TMobile issue not OP, sadly. No idea why they're doing it in stages and by phone.

My TMobile version does not have the hold power button down to activate Google Assistant feature. Is everyone else missing this?

I got some tmobile variant questions aswell?
Im from México but my brother is on vacation in USS.. in thinking on buying the oneplus but im a little confused about unlocking the phone... Some people say i have to use it with tmobile for 40 days to be able to unlock it even if i make the full pay for it.. othe people say you can unlock it the same day you full pay for it with the tmobile app..
So, can someone confirm who is correct with this because i wont like my brother to buy me the phone and then cant use it because of locked sim..
Also another question.. do you know if later we could install the international firmware on the tmobile version and get the updates directly from oneplus??
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renehd2 said:
I got some tmobile variant questions aswell?
Im from México but my brother is on vacation in USS.. in thinking on buying the oneplus but im a little confused about unlocking the phone... Some people say i have to use it with tmobile for 40 days to be able to unlock it even if i make the full pay for it.. othe people say you can unlock it the same day you full pay for it with the tmobile app..
So, can someone confirm who is correct with this because i wont like my brother to buy me the phone and then cant use it because of locked sim..
Also another question.. do you know if later we could install the international firmware on the tmobile version and get the updates directly from oneplus??
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1) SIM Unlocking:
YMMV,only way you'll know for certain is trying it yourself. My recent experiences w/Customer Care lead me to believe they'll accommodate you.
2) Int'l ROM flashing onto a T-Mobile variant.
No,that is not possible. Perhaps some aftermarket ROM will be available later,but,no ,not at this time,official,or,otherwise.
Updates will come from T-Mobile.
If you're gonna buy it outright,why bother w/T-Mobile anyway,just skip the hassles & go for the unlocked version.....................

KOLIOSIS said:
1) SIM Unlocking:
YMMV,only way you'll know for certain is trying it yourself. My recent experiences w/Customer Care lead me to believe they'll accommodate you.
2) Int'l ROM flashing onto a T-Mobile variant.
No,that is not possible. Perhaps some aftermarket ROM will be available later,but,no ,not at this time,official,or,otherwise.
Updates will come from T-Mobile.
If you're gonna buy it outright,why bother w/T-Mobile anyway,just skip the hassles & go for the unlocked version.....................
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Because TMobile will allow you to buy the phone for 280 out the door with an approved trade-in device.
This is my current situation....I like to tinker and flash ROMs/mods. Hopefully if I end up with the Tmo version, I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs once development gets going for the device.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Because TMobile will allow you to buy the phone for 280 out the door with an approved trade-in device.
This is my current situation....I like to tinker and flash ROMs/mods. Hopefully if I end up with the Tmo version, I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs once development gets going for the device.
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Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.

KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Ah, I gotcha.

KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Yeah the problem is that my brother. Cannot wait to receive the international model via mail because he is coming back to mexico tuesday
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Well it looks like I'll be ordering from OP directly. It seems if I pay 280 and get the device I'll still pay 12 dollars and change a month until I hit the 570 mark to have the device "paid in full." I guess the 300 dollars goes towards savings on the bill. I read comments on here saying even if you buy the phone from TMobile, in order to "buy it outright" you still have to pay the full price of the phone. I need an unlocked bootloader and root so I guess I'll just pay OP directly.

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Well it looks like I'll be ordering from OP directly. It seems if I pay 280 and get the device I'll still pay 12 dollars and change a month until I hit the 570 mark to have the device "paid in full." I guess the 300 dollars goes towards savings on the bill. I read comments on here saying even if you buy the phone from TMobile, in order to "buy it outright" you still have to pay the full price of the phone. I need an unlocked bootloader and root so I guess I'll just pay OP directly.
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Yeah it's really only a good deal if you're already or going to stay a T-Mobile customer. You wait a couple of months for the billing discount to kick in and you pay off your device in full. After that you'll still get your discount every month and you'll be able to unlock your sim card and unlock your bootloader.

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Yeah it's really only a good deal if you're already or going to stay a T-Mobile customer. You wait a couple of months for the billing discount to kick in and you pay off your device in full. After that you'll still get your discount every month and you'll be able to unlock your sim card and unlock your bootloader.
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I am a TMobile customer and plan on staying with them. Flashing the latest updates is kind of a big deal to me....I've been a Nexus/pixel user for years and am not use to being locked down by carrier restrictions when it comes to unlocking devices. I just don't feel like dealing with the clutter and hassle of having sift through the carrier's rules before doing what I want with my phone.

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I am a TMobile customer and plan on staying with them. Flashing the latest updates is kind of a big deal to me....I've been a Nexus/pixel user for years and am not use to being locked down by carrier restrictions when it comes to unlocking devices. I just don't feel like dealing with the clutter and hassle of having sift through the carrier's rules before doing what I want with my phone.
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I agree, and I'm the exact same way. I've been on T-Mobile forever and have had a Nexus device since the Nexus 4. I had a Galaxy 4 for work and hated it.
This is my first carrier device pretty much ever. Before the Nexus 4 I was using the HTC HD2 and before that I was using Palm Windows and Palm OS devices.
Pretty much the way I see it is if this is too much of a pain, I can always sell it and go with my original plan of getting a used Pixel 2 XL on swappa.
I'll give it a chance. The price was just too good to pass. And I'm fairly confident in OP's laziness on locking down this phone. I have a feeling it will be pretty simple to swap over to the international rom, and if not, at most we'll have to wait a day for someone to repack the official rom removing the modem and/or bootloader. And if not, on to swappa it goes.