Update with root - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

As you know, you cannot download OTAs when you rooted your device.
Is there any other way to install them? flashable zip for example?
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xPr0metheus said:
As you know, you cannot download OTAs when you rooted your device.
Is there any other way to install them? flashable zip for example?
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You reflash firmware then reroot
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Brava27 said:
You reflash firmware then reroot
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Is it that easy? Will I keep settings and stuff? And can I download updates with Knox 0x1?
Afaik I will lose everything if I flash a firmware with Odin, and a flashable zip is not updatable, right?
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For OTA updates to work, you need to have the stock recovery installed. So, using ODIN, install the stock recovery over, install the OTA, then reinstall TWRP and re-root should the update have removed it. Personally I can't be bothered and will wait for a rom than incorporates the released fixes. My phone is currently running fine.

Beefheart said:
For OTA updates to work, you need to have the stock recovery installed. So, using ODIN, install the stock recovery over, install the OTA, then reinstall TWRP and re-root should the update have removed it. Personally I can't be bothered and will wait for a rom than incorporates the released fixes. My phone is currently running fine.
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side question, is knox still there with s7? and by rooting will trip it?

Yes and yes.

Beefheart said:
For OTA updates to work, you need to have the stock recovery installed. So, using ODIN, install the stock recovery over, install the OTA, then reinstall TWRP and re-root should the update have removed it. Personally I can't be bothered and will wait for a rom than incorporates the released fixes. My phone is currently running fine.
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That's probably what I will do, too. I used a so called devbase rom on my Note 4 which was amazing, hopefully someone will do something like that for S7 edge, too

Beefheart said:
For OTA updates to work, you need to have the stock recovery installed. So, using ODIN, install the stock recovery over, install the OTA, then reinstall TWRP and re-root should the update have removed it. Personally I can't be bothered and will wait for a rom than incorporates the released fixes. My phone is currently running fine.
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Not true. OTAs are not possible with Knox tripped or the system partition changed in some way..

That's changed then, I've had OTA updates work in the past with root installed providing the stock recovery is present rather than TWRP or CWM. Either way I'll be waiting until a ROM incorporates the OTA changes.

Is possible with knox tripped unless it's new for s7 u can fake system status with an xposed module and stock recovery and receive OTA or Odin stock rom factory reset make sure system status says official and u can take OTA

nobnut said:
Not true. OTAs are not possible with Knox tripped or the system partition changed in some way..
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Thats new. Never been a problem recieving OTA, even with knox tripped. As long as its stock firmware on it.

duvalbmarley said:
Is possible with knox tripped unless it's new for s7 u can fake system status with an xposed module and stock recovery and receive OTA or Odin stock rom factory reset make sure system status says official and u can take OTA
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Do you mean that you can fake the device to think stock recovery is used?
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xPr0metheus said:
Do you mean that you can fake the device to think stock recovery is used?
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No you can fake the device status to official to make it think the system is not modified but you need stock recovery to update OTA

duvalbmarley said:
No you can fake the device status to official to make it think the system is not modified but you need stock recovery to update OTA
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but i cannot OTA with root right -> no root, no xposed, no fake device status?
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xPr0metheus said:
but i cannot OTA with root right -> no root, no xposed, no fake device status?
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Yes you can OTA without root that's was for ppl who try to OTA with root

duvalbmarley said:
No you can fake the device status to official to make it think the system is not modified but you need stock recovery to update OTA
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How you you change the status to official from custom?

Hi
I can fake the status to official with xtouchwiz on my rooted phone
I can dowload the small OTA update (27 mb) from Settings>About>Manually dowload
I can see the update.zip file in caché with a file explorer
But I can't install the update using flashfire, It doesnt autodetect the OTA file and also can't find the file manually in the app
Always using stock recovery and cfautoroot
Need some help
Thanks!!

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Noob Rooting Clarification

So if (when) I root my Nexus S, if I don't do anything except root it (no custom roms etc) will I receive all updates just like normal from Google no strings attached? In essence, it'll be the exact same process just superuser status, correct?
annndrewww said:
So if (when) I root my Nexus S, if I don't do anything except root it (no custom roms etc) will I receive all updates just like normal from Google no strings attached? In essence, it'll be the exact same process just superuser status, correct?
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In essence you are only adding two files, the .apk and the su file. I would think that you would still get updates, but just an educated guess.
The only way you'll lose updates is by flashing a custom ROM AFAIK. An update might break your root (not sure), but you should still get it.
Nah ... then if we flash our GNS with custom rom we can't update firmware directly from google ? It is reversable reversible ... it is ?
Kalimdor said:
Nah ... then if we flash our GNS with custom rom we can't update firmware directly from google ? It is reversable reversible ... it is ?
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You don't get OTA updates with a custom ROM, but you will if you flash back to a stock one.
I am not sure you can install ota updates with custom recovery either right?
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brian6685 said:
I am not sure you can install ota updates with custom recovery either right?
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As long as you have a stock ROM, I think you can.
MaybachMan said:
As long as you have a stock ROM, I think you can.
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Don't the ota updates install through the phones recovery? If it's not the stock recovery, how would it work? Maybe I am wrong though
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brian6685 said:
Don't the ota updates install through the phones recovery? If it's not the stock recovery, how would it work? Maybe I am wrong though
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Just did a Google and apparently you can download the OTA update but not install without a stock recovery. I assume you can then install it "manually" with your custom recovery.
MaybachMan said:
Just did a Google and apparently you can download the OTA update but not install without a stock recovery. I assume you can then install it "manually" with your custom recovery.
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I think you can only install the ota from stock recovery also because of the way it is signed. Although I am sure someone will come up with a flashable zip as soon as, if not before, there is an update. So I would not worry
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Root & OTA updates?

I own a UK sim free SD800.
If i root it, and install Viper audio for example, can I still install the OTA updates that Samsung releases now and then, or will it screw things up rooted?
Thanks.
JCM800 said:
I own a UK sim free SD800.
If i root it, and install Viper audio for example, can I still install the OTA updates that Samsung releases now and then, or will it screw things up rooted?
Thanks.
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Yeah no more ota
jaythenut said:
Yeah no more ota
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Ok cheers, thought as much.
You'll have to flash new firmware via Odin and then root again. Sammobile.com is a good place to look for new released stock firmware.
MohJee said:
You'll have to flash new firmware via Odin and then root again. Sammobile.com is a good place to look for new released stock firmware.
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Or you can wait for Chainfire to update Mobile Odin Pro to be compatible with the GN3.
Then you'll be able to flash the updated firmware directly from your GN3, and keep both data and root.
I rooted and use wanam to fake modified to official. Then I check OTA. This way server will not reject me by said system modified.
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eddievoon said:
I rooted and use wanam to fake modified to official. Then I check OTA. This way server will not reject me by said system modified.
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so using this method you can get OTA install as normal and keep root?
thanks

Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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Rooted Note 3 & software update

Hey guys,
I've just rooted my phone and now the KNOX status is at 0x1 so warranty is void. I don't care about warranty but I would still like to be able to get software updates for my phone. What is the solution? Will unrooting do the trick?
Thanks!
Dimitri Stephan said:
Hey guys,
I've just rooted my phone and now the KNOX status is at 0x1 so warranty is void. I don't care about warranty but I would still like to be able to get software updates for my phone. What is the solution? Will unrooting do the trick?
Thanks!
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yes or download from www.sammobile.com
I dont think that unrooting ist enough. Your status will remain custom and so you won't get ota updates. But flashing with odin is still possible.
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Alex87142 said:
I dont think that unrooting ist enough. Your status will remain custom and so you won't get ota updates. But flashing with odin is still possible.
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Flashing a rom with odin? Please be more specific.
Download the stock rom from sammobile site and flash it using ODIN, can't be more specific I think.
Maby try FLASH STOCK ROM USING ODIN in Google?
Respect!

Working root that does not trigger Knox!?

I just tested Towelroot on my GT-I9506 running latest NEE 4.3 and it worked like a charm and did not trigger Knox.
Thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Happy rooting
banerbocken said:
I just tested Towelroot on my GT-I9506 running latest NEE 4.3 and it worked like a charm and did not trigger Knox.
Thread found here:
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Works perfectly!
Please, can you help me?
I've downloaded the towelroot apk and installed it. Then, once the phone was rebooted, I've installed supersu from playstore, but it ask me to update de SU binaries, I select the normal option but it gives me a message about samsung knox and if I want to try to disable it, I select no because I don't know if it will affect to the knox counter.... What are the steps please?
And if I download the suggested SuperSU from the towelroot thread, I can't install it because it's a flashable zip that I can't install because I have stock recovery...
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Please, can you help me?
I've downloaded the towelroot apk and installed it. Then, once the phone was rebooted, I've installed supersu from playstore, but it ask me to update de SU binaries, I select the normal option but it gives me a message about samsung knox and if I want to try to disable it, I select no because I don't know if it will affect to the knox counter.... What are the steps please?
And if I download the suggested SuperSU from the towelroot thread, I can't install it because it's a flashable zip that I can't install because I have stock recovery...
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Towelroot installs needed files for root. I didnt install SuperSU at all from play store cause its not latest version.
ChainFire is updating SuperSU soon and when latest version (1.99) is online you can install it from play store.
After Towelroot I just installed Titanium Backup (and pro key) and freezed all crap including knox.
After using towelroot on a KNOX-enabled stock 4.3 device, is is possible to revert back to the 4.2.2 bootloader without burning the e-fuse?
Ok, tried to delete system apps, including the knox ones, with root explorer and was successfull!
And about the downgrade, it will change the knox status for sure, because knox is in the bootloader too, not only the apps and libraries, and here, root doesn't made any chance...
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The KNOX e-fuse should be burned only by the bootloader in ODIN mode when it flashes an unsigned file to the device. Getting local root on the device and writing a new bootloader directly to the flash should not be able to affect the e-fuse?
tlund said:
The KNOX e-fuse should be burned only by the bootloader in ODIN mode when it flashes an unsigned file to the device. Getting local root on the device and writing a new bootloader directly to the flash should not be able to affect the e-fuse?
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It is slightly wrong. You shoud burned KNOX when you flash different version of kernel, recovery, bootloader.
You can flash system, modem, NON-HLOS and maybe others. I've tested only system and NON-HLOS.
Now I have my GT-I9506 Singapore version with KNOX warranty void 0x0 in this configuration:
System and NON-HLOS from Finladian version: I9506XXUBNE1
The others from original Sigapore version: I9506XXUBND2
towelroot.com installed and working!
Thanks to towelroot
tomogo said:
It is slightly wrong. You shoud burned KNOX when you flash different version of kernel, recovery, bootloader.
You can flash system, modem, NON-HLOS and maybe others. I've tested only system and NON-HLOS.
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Yes, but you are talking about flashing this via download/odin mode, right?
My point is that with root, you should be able to modify the flash directly, overwriting the bootloader.
Would it be possible to receive original updates OTA with this root?
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Probably not
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Would it be possible to receive original updates OTA with this root?
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As we have root I would think (so don't quote me on this) that OTA is blocked. But as I see it it does not really matter as the next update for this devise is probably going to be 4.4.2 and flashing that probably also means loosing root.
Now that was a lot of probably but as I see it..
You need "Official" status under Phone Info to receive OTA updates. ROOT will be overwritten by the updates.
After root it's very common to have "Custom" status, but you can cheat it with Traingle away app (not tested by me) or sometimes you can be "Official"after Wipe ( it depends what changes has been done to the system)
mar10o said:
You need "Official" status under Phone Info to receive OTA updates. ROOT will be overwritten by the updates.
After root it's very common to have "Custom" status, but you can cheat it with Traingle away app (not tested by me) or sometimes you can be "Official"after Wipe ( it depends what changes has been done to the system)
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I would think getting the OS" 4.4.2 is only part of the package (BTW 4.2.2 vrzn w/gs4 rooted with ease) but you also get other surprises...
Not exactly like a box if lucky charms either.
Samsung or vrzn either one are not fond of rooting.
Triangle away didn't help me unless i did something wrong.. I still have the unlock icon when booting and phone info says "custom" but knox is 0x0
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windstrings said:
I would think getting the OS" 4.4.2 is only part of the package (BTW 4.2.2 vrzn w/gs4 rooted with ease) but you also get other surprises...
Not exactly like a box if lucky charms either.
Samsung or vrzn either one are not fond if rooting.
Triangle away didn't help me unless i did something wrong.. I still have the unlock icon when booting and phone info says "custom" but knox is 0x0
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Was told that xposed could chance the status from custom to official.
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For those who failed check last version !
For me
V1 Towel root didn't work
V2 towel root didn't work
V2.1 (downloaded today) = SUCESS
I9505XXUFNC4
Will it work in gt-I9505 4.4.2 XXUFNBA without tripping knox
bertrand13 said:
For me
V1 Towel root didn't work
V2 towel root didn't work
V2.1 (downloaded today) = SUCESS
I9505XXUFNC4
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I do not seem to be able to find V 2.1 Can you guide me please? Thanks
Don't know why he doesn't label his site or the filename better but it should be the latest version when you download from his site.
When you open the app to install it, it should say the version at the top.
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mohammedkhairy said:
Will it work in gt-I9505 4.4.2 XXUFNBA without tripping knox
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It should work. It does not trip Knox
kerko said:
I do not seem to be able to find V 2.1 Can you guide me please? Thanks
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Well I downloaded it from the towelroot web :laugh::laugh:
I saw on XDA tnat somebody mentionned a new version so I tried
If you need more PM me...

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