Root & OTA updates? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I own a UK sim free SD800.
If i root it, and install Viper audio for example, can I still install the OTA updates that Samsung releases now and then, or will it screw things up rooted?
Thanks.

JCM800 said:
I own a UK sim free SD800.
If i root it, and install Viper audio for example, can I still install the OTA updates that Samsung releases now and then, or will it screw things up rooted?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah no more ota

jaythenut said:
Yeah no more ota
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok cheers, thought as much.

You'll have to flash new firmware via Odin and then root again. Sammobile.com is a good place to look for new released stock firmware.

MohJee said:
You'll have to flash new firmware via Odin and then root again. Sammobile.com is a good place to look for new released stock firmware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or you can wait for Chainfire to update Mobile Odin Pro to be compatible with the GN3.
Then you'll be able to flash the updated firmware directly from your GN3, and keep both data and root.

I rooted and use wanam to fake modified to official. Then I check OTA. This way server will not reject me by said system modified.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

eddievoon said:
I rooted and use wanam to fake modified to official. Then I check OTA. This way server will not reject me by said system modified.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so using this method you can get OTA install as normal and keep root?
thanks

Related

problem with checking for updates after rooting

hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer
As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.

Flashed the latest update /how to remove?

Hi guys, I recently flashed the latest update on my i9500 (the one that enables you to move apps to sd) I downloaded the update and flashed it using Odin. But I can no longer do an OTA update, whenever I check it says something like "Device is modified unable to update". It also says under device status as "Custom". BTw, I completely wiped my device but the flashed update still remains. I rooted BTw and using persues kernel if it matters.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Marck527 said:
Hi guys, I recently flashed the latest update on my i9500 (the one that enables you to move apps to sd) I downloaded the update and flashed it using Odin. But I can no longer do an OTA update, whenever I check it says something like "Device is modified unable to update". It also says under device status as "Custom". BTw, I completely wiped my device but the flashed update still remains. I rooted BTw and using persues kernel if it matters.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go to sammobile.com and find the firmware of your region and flash it.
Sent from my GT-I9500
Did you used to be rooted before you flashed the update with Odin?
In that case you'll probably have to re-root your device, run Triangle Away by chainfire to reset the counter and then flash the latest official firmware from sammobile. That ought to get you back to official status.
abuarman said:
Go to sammobile.com and find the firmware of your region and flash it.
Sent from my GT-I9500
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, but I just checked and the firmware for my region is not available on sammobile yet.
Obscure Reference said:
Did you used to be rooted before you flashed the update with Odin?
In that case you'll probably have to re-root your device, run Triangle Away by chainfire to reset the counter and then flash the latest official firmware from sammobile. That ought to get you back to official status.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I rooted straight away after I flashed the update. So I can just run triangle away and flash the firmware for my region?
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Marck527 said:
Thanks, but I just checked and the firmware for my region is not available on sammobile yet.
No, I rooted straight away after I flashed the update. So I can just run triangle away and flash the firmware for my region?
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Worth a shot. It'd be interesting to see if it's even increased the counter. But.. if the right firmware isn't available on sammobile yet.. what'd you flash? And where did you get it?
Hi,
There is no Triangle Away for the i9500.
Once you root it ,there is no way to get it back to "Official"
Hence, you cannot get OTA
To get the firmware you want,look HERE
malybru said:
Hi,
There is no Triangle Away for the i9500.
Once you root it ,there is no way to get it back to "Official"
Hence, you cannot get OTA
To get the firmware you want,look HERE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah just bought it and quickly refunded as soon as I found d out its incompatible so does this mean I have to flash all the future update? Or wait for triangle away to be compatible I guess.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Marck527 said:
Yeah just bought it and quickly refunded as soon as I found d out its incompatible so does this mean I have to flash all the future update? Or wait for triangle away to be compatible I guess.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Yes.
Yes.
Marck527 said:
Yeah just bought it and quickly refunded as soon as I found d out its incompatible so does this mean I have to flash all the future update? Or wait for triangle away to be compatible I guess.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Djembey has an official status mod that u can use to stay rooted but have official status. I have done this on the latest rom for I9500, and it works. My device and binary status are still official, OTA works, and I am rooted.. You may need to flash the mod a couple of times and factory reset/wipe cache, but this works 100%.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
msquare said:
Djembey has an official status mod that u can use to stay rooted but have official status. I have done this on the latest rom for I9500, and it works. My device and binary status are still official, OTA works, and I am rooted.. You may need to flash the mod a couple of times and factory reset/wipe cache, but this works 100%.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey thanks for the link, but wouldn't I still need to run triangle away? Which isn't compatible?
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Marck527 said:
Hey thanks for the link, but wouldn't I still need to run triangle away? Which isn't compatible?
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, thats true. My understanding is that using triangle away may become relevant when you want to return your phone to Samsung for warranty, but until then this method works perfectly for making the phone run almost like a stock unrooted phone.

Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
Sent from my SM-N9005
i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk 2
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

[Q]How to get OTA Updates on Rooted Phone

I just rooted my phone and i want to know will it affect OTA updates or will i get them normally as i used to before?
Also please tell me some good apps for rooted phones.
which kind of apps u want
thahim said:
I just rooted my phone and i want to know will it affect OTA updates or will i get them normally as i used to before?
Also please tell me some good apps for rooted phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U dont gona receive/install OTA updates if u rooted ur phone. Only KIES updates :highfive:
Rooted Stock does get OTA updates
thahim said:
I just rooted my phone and i want to know will it affect OTA updates or will i get them normally as i used to before?
Also please tell me some good apps for rooted phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Joku1981 said:
U dont gona receive/install OTA updates if u rooted ur phone. Only KIES updates :highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From my experience, if you root your phone, and do NOT flash a new rom, then you will receive OTA updates, but unless you enable OTA survival, you will lose root after an OTA upgrade.
If you want OTA updates, root the stock rom without installing a new rom.
Also can someone tell me if I install stock rom with odin,I will be able to receive updates?.Ive knox 0×1
Sent from my GT-I9500 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
RISHI RAJ said:
Also can someone tell me if I install stock rom with odin,I will be able to receive updates?.Ive knox 0×1
Sent from my GT-I9500 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the stock ROM u installed is the good for the firmware region (CSC) of ur phone, yes then
EDIT: Take a look ur CSC in Kies. (KOR) in the case of the pic I attached
jcreations4637 said:
From my experience, if you root your phone, and do NOT flash a new rom, then you will receive OTA updates, but unless you enable OTA survival, you will lose root after an OTA upgrade.
If you want OTA updates, root the stock rom without installing a new rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If u root ur phone u will receive OTA updates, but u dont gona be able to install them (update.zip file) :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
If u root ur phone u will receive OTA updates, but u dont gona be able to install them (update.zip file) :highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot about that....you do need the stock recovery. I have done an OTA on my S4 with root though... you just can't have a custom recovery.
Sent from my Galaxy S4 Google Edition
Joku1981 said:
If u root ur phone u will receive OTA updates, but u dont gona be able to install them (update.zip file) :highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it's true
Ask4Android said:
Yes it's true
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ota Updates are only factory to be able to install the 3e recovery rooted or non-rooted.
Just make sure your system status is official not custom , u can modify that through wanam xposed
And if you firmware is not the same original region , go to /efs/imei/mps_code.dat , and change it to the current firmware region
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
smep said:
Just make sure your system status is official not custom , u can modify that through wanam xposed
And if you firmware is not the same original region , go to /efs/imei/mps_code.dat , and change it to the current firmware region
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the recovery not official, the update process is missing!
halaszk88 said:
If the recovery not official, the update process is missing!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Binary status can be change to official by TriangleAway
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
smep said:
Binary status can be change to official by TriangleAway
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It isn't stock binary status that is needed, but the stock 3e recovery is. Custom recoveries do not have the ability to do an OTA upgrade.
Sent from my Galaxy S4 Google Edition

S5 root with marshmallow

What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks
marshmallow update
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
sameog said:
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?
*Detection* said:
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
devondale16 said:
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
*Detection* said:
Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
devondale16 said:
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
*Detection* said:
You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app
devondale16 said:
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q

Categories

Resources