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Today at Sprint store I played the same YouTube video on the Hero and the Pre side by side. The Pre looked great, the Hero had a very low frame rate and poor resolution. I hope someone can tell me something was wrong with the Hero and it is not always like this.
I am seriously considering buying a Hero and have been spending a lot of time at my local Sprint story getting to know it. Today I was trying out flash video on many sites and they all looked bad like I described above. I just assumed the videos had a poor source until I tried a YouTube video on the Pre. It is hard to believe all the reviews I have been seeing of the Hero wouldn't have hammered it for this if it were a common problem.
maybe the reviews didn't hammer it since at the time the choice was 'average flash performance' vs 'no flash at all'... I always watch youtube vids in the You Tube app which plays them smooth as silk, even in HD (with the occasional flutter)
If the need for smooth Flash animations takes precedence over the 1001 other unbelievably high quality aspects of the HTC Hero, then you should probably just buy a Pre like all the other dorks...
The quality of the video on the actual YouTube app is way superior to that you will get going onto the main site via the browser and the HTC Flash player.
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Dave
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
it is true, i did not know that. I usually watched videos through the site. Tried the youtube app on my hero and it is indeed crystal clear. Cool
erikcave said:
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
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It is a physically separate app from which you can search/view Youtube videos. It came preloaded on my GSM Hero, so I assume it's still on the Sprint Hero.
If you go to Youtube via the browser, it launches the HTC Flash Player when you try to view a video, and this is quite poor! Thinking about it, I think on the G1 if you were on YouTube in a browser, it would launch any videos via the Youtube app (since it doesn't have a flash player).
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Dave
It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
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It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
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I think the "idea" is that if you have flash, you don't need the YouTube app. Sadly, it's a bad idea!
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Dave
bboydru said:
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
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exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
Good advice in this thread and I would like too add I do not miss it Pre one bit. That device has some serious flaws not likely to be addressed for another year. Namely its weak SDK, lack of deep system / hardware access and lack of GPU support. The Pre can't use its own hardware properly much less the lack of options in all of the OS.
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exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
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Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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Yes you do unless on WiFi. Then I think it automatically goes into high quality mode
Pre vs and youtube
I stoped by a Bell to try a Pre and compared it to my HTC touch on same Bell network, yes picture was great on Pre but it was slow, in fact I gave up waiting for it to load some video as my touch was playing them in half the time. Today at work we had my touch on bell a Touch 2 Pro on Telus and a iPhone on rogers, all playing the same video from You Tube and nothing compared to the touch pro 2 for quality video was HD looking and played without jumping, the IPhone 3gs crashed tohe sound quit working we had to restart it, and it then worked but picture of video was not full screen as the other two had. Big differance was the way they handled buffering the IPhone buffered all at first then played non-stop the other two would play a few seconds then buffer for up to 2 minutes play a few seconds then again buffer. I then played my IPod Touch same video but wifi, again video did not fit all the screen but no buffering and no digitaizing. So all in all a big disapointment with all three networks and their ability to play streaming HD video!
I was at the Sprint store again today and tried to enable high quality, but could never find the setting. I pressed the menu button over and over again while the video was playing, but it never did anything. Also, I intentionally loaded a video via the YouTube App and the quality was still bad. Furthermore I rebooted the device to be sure it wasn't just loaded down with running programs.
Weird
With the video on you press menu > more > watch high quality.
That's what I did. I pushed the menu button next to the trackball and nothing happened. No menu appeared. I also pushed every other button and the touched the screen.
Hello,
Because of the relative new size of the screen, a lot of internetstreams and videofiles are not full screen. but there is never an option to zoom, or change the aspectratio. Some thirdparty apps are having those options, but when I start a streams straight from a site, it comes with a basic androidplayer without any option...
how to fix?
(sorry for my bad english )
when your video is playing just double tap the screen to maximize it
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when your video is playing just double tap the screen to maximize it
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nope
does not work...
I tried it on mine (have some movies that I've ripped for my 4th Gen Ipod....) it works a treat for me.
I can also confirm that double tapping on videos works great to zoom them and make them full screen. Videos encoded for the iPod seem to play great, though I'm still getting audio/video sync issues somtimes.
I was looking around the android sdk and trying to figure out how to record a video of the screen, but I couldn't find option to do it. I want to record a video of me playing a game I made so I can put it on Youtube. The framerate needs to be smooth because it's a game, so if it lags it won't look good. Is there any way to do this, or am I just gonna have to hold a camera up to the phone?
Depending on the flow of the game, you could use WebKey to record your screen, then create a movie/video from the screenshots.
it would depend on the phone/game how smooth it is.. is there any reason not to just use a regular PC screencapture program and do it on the emulator? (since the PC would be more capable of doing it with no lag then a phone)
Sorry if this was posted up already but I got an email for the Samsung update but would like to know how big of a difference it makes
+ Most actions feel smoother
+ Browser is much more stable
+ Lag and wonky cursor fixed when typing in web forms
+ Numerous small fixes and improvements throughout
- 720p high profile playback is broken
- New color scheme takes awhile to get used to
The pros outweigh the cons for me, unless a clever developer manages to get 3.2 running on the tab I don't think I'll be going back to stock HC.
I was at my local mall yesterday and saw the touch screen buttons look uglier to me I didn't get to play with there was a long line but everything looks ok but if you say its more stable ill take it I'm getting tired of how it runs slow at certain points
My thoughts: This isn't your Granny's Android tablet any more!
- Printing (but only to Samsung printers )
- Screen Capture button.
- Tilt the tablet to zoom in and out in gallery and browser.
- New notification sound.
- New graphic aesthetics in major system apps, including Settings.
- Hardware shortcut ribbon in bottom-corner pop-up. Wi-Fi, Notifications, GPS, Sound, Auto-rotate, Bluetooth, and Flight Mode.
- Graphic current screen indicator on home pages. Tap on dots to go directly to any page.
- Bottom dock bar, pops up with Task manager, Calendar, World clock, Pen memo, Calculator, and Music Player shortcuts on any screen.
- Connect to Kies via WiFi. (Kies update available)
- Move icons to other pages by tilting the tablet to pan while holding an icon.
- Videos app, Movies in Market, Samsung Apps app, Photo editor, Alarm app, and probably a few more.
Liking it so far
+System video player properly recognizes orientation! This was such an annoyance when using Samsung book cover with tilt!
+Browser annoyances fixed
+Finally an easy to access calculator
-H264 720p high profile broken. Verified in system video player as well as mobo player
-Youtube still does not recognize orientation in full screen playback.
1. More video formats now play in the video player.
2. Good news abou the UI: The GUI is more "fat finger" friendly. Bad News: As a result it's not very pretty. However, I prefer function over form so that's OK.
3. There's a pop-up app button in the bottom ribbon. Unfortunately, the only app there that I find useful is Task Manager. Too bad we can't change the apps to make it more useful.
4. Screen shot is nice. But, really, how often does one need a screen shot?
5. They changed the appearance of the buttons on the bottom left corner of the screen. The back arrow is now an arrow. However, the home button still looks like an upward pointing arrow. Too bad they didn't make that better.
6. The browser does seem snappier.
7. The market now includes Movies. Although I haven't seen anything under $3.99. I'm not going to pay $3.99 to watch something on a 10.1" screen. I'm guessing they're aiming at those who have purchased the HDMI adapter.
8. The "busy" icon is no longer two circles spinning in opposite directions. It's more like an analog clock with a spinning hour hand.
9. There's a File Manager. It's called "My Files." Took me a while to figure that out. It has a polished look. Not sure of all its capabilities yet.
10. I really like the buttons at the top of the UI to get to any 5 screens quickly. However, 5 seems to still be the limit. With direct navigation it would have been nice to have the ability to create more screens ala GO Launcer EX.
11. Calender. They did some horrible things to the calendar. I'm a graphical person. I need to see appointments in a graphical way where a longer appointment takes up more space on a calendar. I detest the Agenda style. They took that away in the week view. Agenda style only there. Daily view shows appointments graphically, but not weekly.
Additionally, the color scheme is abysmal. Violet and white. Who in their right mind chooses such a hideous color scheme without giving us the ability to change it? This just solidifies my choice of using Touchdown instead. So long Calendar.
11. When looking at the Apps screen they've taken away the "ghosted" outline of apps on the right column. That was a cool visual cue that there were more apps on the right. I liked it and could see that it was useful when new users used the Tab.
12. Live wallpapers are still as useless as they were before. It grinds the home pages to a halt. No improvement there.
13. There are more "settings" including a Power Saving panel, a Motion Settings panel, and more details about the Tab.
Anyone know if you can change out the icons/apps on the pop-up dock? There is a better calculator available for example, and I'd prefer to use the Google Music beta app instead of the default one Samsung provided.
So far, in my 10 minutes of using this update, I'm not too happy. More apps I don't use were installed and cannot be removed without rooting (My Files, Pen memo, Memo, Amazon Kindle/MP3, Words, Video). The pop-up task bar has changed. The new buttons to run wifi/gps/etc on and off is neat, but it's ugly and some functionality has been lost from that pop up like clicking on wifi no longer brings you right into wifi settings, which I find extremely annoying. The new calendar app is not as good as the old one, which is important for me. I want the old color scheme back. So far, I'd actually like to roll back. None of these quirks were reported in any reviews of the new TW update I read.
Graphics performance has been improved quite a bit as evidenced in Quadrant and a few games I've tested. The annoying gyro drift I was experiencing in NOVA 2 has also been fixed. The game actually plays quite well now, not as good as ipad2 though
Hoping we'll see an OC Kernel soon, should boost performance a bit more.
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I gotta say that Swype is fantastic. I've tried to use Swype on my phone several times over the last year or so but never could get used to it. Somehow, on the Tab, it's a much better experience. Also, it's nice to be able to move the Swype keyboard to a different position making it easy for both leftys and rightys.
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
Gix said:
I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
ganiman said:
Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
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720p High Profile H264 is broken. There are many variations of H264:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
MKV is a container that can contain numerous formats of video and audio.
Yes, depending on the 720p H264 file you get, it may work as long as was encoded less then High Profile.
Why would anyone want high profile? It gives the greatest quality per bit of data at the expense of crunching power, which the tegra2 has. Somehow this update disabled high profile recognition for hw decode, no 3rd party player can fix this.
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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whatttttttt
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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wut!!!
10char
Gix said:
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Should we have debugging check or not for connecting via USB to transfer files? I had a problem initially connecting, I had Kies open and it said that it is not supported or cant connect. I then closed Kies, unchecked debugging, then it connected and an expolorer window opened to view files.
I tried connecting again and my tab did not show up in my computer as a drive. Rebooted tab, checked and unchecked debugging and then it worked.
Very strange, so I am not sure what I did wrong or if Kies was the problem.
Lol 4th thoughts on the update thread....
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4dthinker said:
I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
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Very easily done using DLNA. The Galaxy S 1/2 devices have an app called AllShare that enables this functionality. It allows you to watch content on DLNA devices. For example, I can watch video captures on my phone on my DLNA enabled TV and vice versa.
We are still waiting on Samsung to release an AllShare app for the Tab though.
I'm looking to get rid of my s4, which I hate, and am looking to get the g2 or Sony z ultra.
My main use is watching movies, Web browsing and reading magazines on zinio, which is why the big screen of the Sony appealed. I am worried about the battery life and handling issues of the ultra though so am thinking of the g2 despite the smaller screen, especially as the battery life seems to be so good.
Anyway wanted to ask if anyone knew if the g2 worked in usb host mode and so was able to read off external Flash drives? 32gb onboard is not enough for me as I regularly take long flights and like to take lots of large movie files with me but being able to use an external usb drive would get round this.
Lastly I'm not sure I like the onscreen buttons taking up screen real estate in apps where you want to use the whole screen. Can someone confirm if there is an option to have the menu and back buttons etc disappear during web browsing and video watching in 3rd party video apps like mx player? Also can the buttons be hidden in gaming as the videos I see all seem to have them there during games. Same question re zinio - can you get a true full screen reading experience or are the home buttons always present? And the photo viewer?
Thanks!!
Yes, it will read USB OTG just fine. That's how I transferred my music and backups from my old 64 GB MicroSDXC.
The buttons disappear when watching videos but I don't know the answers to your others. Someone mentioned an app that gives better control over the menu buttons. Requires root, which is easy too.
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toadsurfer said:
I'm looking to get rid of my s4, which I hate, and am looking to get the g2 or Sony z ultra.
My main use is watching movies, Web browsing and reading magazines on zinio, which is why the big screen of the Sony appealed. I am worried about the battery life and handling issues of the ultra though so am thinking of the g2 despite the smaller screen, especially as the battery life seems to be so good.
Anyway wanted to ask if anyone knew if the g2 worked in usb host mode and so was able to read off external Flash drives? 32gb onboard is not enough for me as I regularly take long flights and like to take lots of large movie files with me but being able to use an external usb drive would get round this.
Lastly I'm not sure I like the onscreen buttons taking up screen real estate in apps where you want to use the whole screen. Can someone confirm if there is an option to have the menu and back buttons etc disappear during web browsing and video watching in 3rd party video apps like mx player? Also can the buttons be hidden in gaming as the videos I see all seem to have them there during games. Same question re zinio - can you get a true full screen reading experience or are the home buttons always present? And the photo viewer?
Thanks!!
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As the post above me said, yes the on screen button disappear when watching videos on MX Player (I current use this player). You have to go to the options and enable the onscreen buttons setting. Web browsing on Chrome the on screen buttons are still there. It really depends if the app support on screen keys. On most apps teh on screen keys disappear.
There is an app that modifies the onboard keys to hide automatically (requires root). The keys will then auto hide everywhere. The thread shouldn't be hard to find.