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System buttons "dimming" during video

Hi, I got an Acer Iconia today, and I have to say, it's a big step up from my previous internet tablet (Archos 101).
I'm loving it so far, apart from the SD card not being able to be seen on my PC when mounted.
Ok, to the point! When you use the google reader app, the system buttons (back, home, running apps, etc) kind of dim, and all there is are 4 little dots. However, when watching a video with nemoPlayer, the pre-installed video app, the buttons stay there. Is there any way to make the buttons dim like in other applications? Or is there another video playing app that willl dim the buttons?

samsung official update released today your thoughts

Sorry if this was posted up already but I got an email for the Samsung update but would like to know how big of a difference it makes

+ Most actions feel smoother
+ Browser is much more stable
+ Lag and wonky cursor fixed when typing in web forms
+ Numerous small fixes and improvements throughout
- 720p high profile playback is broken
- New color scheme takes awhile to get used to
The pros outweigh the cons for me, unless a clever developer manages to get 3.2 running on the tab I don't think I'll be going back to stock HC.

I was at my local mall yesterday and saw the touch screen buttons look uglier to me I didn't get to play with there was a long line but everything looks ok but if you say its more stable ill take it I'm getting tired of how it runs slow at certain points

My thoughts: This isn't your Granny's Android tablet any more!
- Printing (but only to Samsung printers )
- Screen Capture button.
- Tilt the tablet to zoom in and out in gallery and browser.
- New notification sound.
- New graphic aesthetics in major system apps, including Settings.
- Hardware shortcut ribbon in bottom-corner pop-up. Wi-Fi, Notifications, GPS, Sound, Auto-rotate, Bluetooth, and Flight Mode.
- Graphic current screen indicator on home pages. Tap on dots to go directly to any page.
- Bottom dock bar, pops up with Task manager, Calendar, World clock, Pen memo, Calculator, and Music Player shortcuts on any screen.
- Connect to Kies via WiFi. (Kies update available)
- Move icons to other pages by tilting the tablet to pan while holding an icon.
- Videos app, Movies in Market, Samsung Apps app, Photo editor, Alarm app, and probably a few more.
Liking it so far

+System video player properly recognizes orientation! This was such an annoyance when using Samsung book cover with tilt!
+Browser annoyances fixed
+Finally an easy to access calculator
-H264 720p high profile broken. Verified in system video player as well as mobo player
-Youtube still does not recognize orientation in full screen playback.

1. More video formats now play in the video player.
2. Good news abou the UI: The GUI is more "fat finger" friendly. Bad News: As a result it's not very pretty. However, I prefer function over form so that's OK.
3. There's a pop-up app button in the bottom ribbon. Unfortunately, the only app there that I find useful is Task Manager. Too bad we can't change the apps to make it more useful.
4. Screen shot is nice. But, really, how often does one need a screen shot?
5. They changed the appearance of the buttons on the bottom left corner of the screen. The back arrow is now an arrow. However, the home button still looks like an upward pointing arrow. Too bad they didn't make that better.
6. The browser does seem snappier.
7. The market now includes Movies. Although I haven't seen anything under $3.99. I'm not going to pay $3.99 to watch something on a 10.1" screen. I'm guessing they're aiming at those who have purchased the HDMI adapter.
8. The "busy" icon is no longer two circles spinning in opposite directions. It's more like an analog clock with a spinning hour hand.
9. There's a File Manager. It's called "My Files." Took me a while to figure that out. It has a polished look. Not sure of all its capabilities yet.
10. I really like the buttons at the top of the UI to get to any 5 screens quickly. However, 5 seems to still be the limit. With direct navigation it would have been nice to have the ability to create more screens ala GO Launcer EX.
11. Calender. They did some horrible things to the calendar. I'm a graphical person. I need to see appointments in a graphical way where a longer appointment takes up more space on a calendar. I detest the Agenda style. They took that away in the week view. Agenda style only there. Daily view shows appointments graphically, but not weekly.
Additionally, the color scheme is abysmal. Violet and white. Who in their right mind chooses such a hideous color scheme without giving us the ability to change it? This just solidifies my choice of using Touchdown instead. So long Calendar.
11. When looking at the Apps screen they've taken away the "ghosted" outline of apps on the right column. That was a cool visual cue that there were more apps on the right. I liked it and could see that it was useful when new users used the Tab.
12. Live wallpapers are still as useless as they were before. It grinds the home pages to a halt. No improvement there.
13. There are more "settings" including a Power Saving panel, a Motion Settings panel, and more details about the Tab.

Anyone know if you can change out the icons/apps on the pop-up dock? There is a better calculator available for example, and I'd prefer to use the Google Music beta app instead of the default one Samsung provided.

So far, in my 10 minutes of using this update, I'm not too happy. More apps I don't use were installed and cannot be removed without rooting (My Files, Pen memo, Memo, Amazon Kindle/MP3, Words, Video). The pop-up task bar has changed. The new buttons to run wifi/gps/etc on and off is neat, but it's ugly and some functionality has been lost from that pop up like clicking on wifi no longer brings you right into wifi settings, which I find extremely annoying. The new calendar app is not as good as the old one, which is important for me. I want the old color scheme back. So far, I'd actually like to roll back. None of these quirks were reported in any reviews of the new TW update I read.

Graphics performance has been improved quite a bit as evidenced in Quadrant and a few games I've tested. The annoying gyro drift I was experiencing in NOVA 2 has also been fixed. The game actually plays quite well now, not as good as ipad2 though
Hoping we'll see an OC Kernel soon, should boost performance a bit more.
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I gotta say that Swype is fantastic. I've tried to use Swype on my phone several times over the last year or so but never could get used to it. Somehow, on the Tab, it's a much better experience. Also, it's nice to be able to move the Swype keyboard to a different position making it easy for both leftys and rightys.

+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition

Gix said:
I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938

The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic

ganiman said:
Have you tried Dice Player? 720p MKVs work well with it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
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720p High Profile H264 is broken. There are many variations of H264:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
MKV is a container that can contain numerous formats of video and audio.
Yes, depending on the 720p H264 file you get, it may work as long as was encoded less then High Profile.
Why would anyone want high profile? It gives the greatest quality per bit of data at the expense of crunching power, which the tegra2 has. Somehow this update disabled high profile recognition for hw decode, no 3rd party player can fix this.

ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.

ariel123 said:
The rep at the mall told me that there's this new feature that if you have an HDTV connected to the same WiFi as the tab you can watch whatever is on Tue tv on the tab so in case you have to go to the bathrrom or kitchen you can continue watching the movie or tv. I don't know useful that is but if you can watch what's on Tue tab on the tv wirelessly that would he epic
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Gix said:
+ MTP protocol improved: you can use the tablet while is connected to the PC
- I'm really dissapointed by the 720p HP ommition
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Should we have debugging check or not for connecting via USB to transfer files? I had a problem initially connecting, I had Kies open and it said that it is not supported or cant connect. I then closed Kies, unchecked debugging, then it connected and an expolorer window opened to view files.
I tried connecting again and my tab did not show up in my computer as a drive. Rebooted tab, checked and unchecked debugging and then it worked.
Very strange, so I am not sure what I did wrong or if Kies was the problem.

Lol 4th thoughts on the update thread....
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4dthinker said:
I've got a TV that is on my network. Curious how that would work. I could see it working if it was running Google TV, but mine is an LG "Smart" tv. It plays videos off my shared network drive, but watching content from the TV on another device isn't something I've ever seen done. Certainly going to mess with it. Will report If I have any success.
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Very easily done using DLNA. The Galaxy S 1/2 devices have an app called AllShare that enables this functionality. It allows you to watch content on DLNA devices. For example, I can watch video captures on my phone on my DLNA enabled TV and vice versa.
We are still waiting on Samsung to release an AllShare app for the Tab though.

When watching a movie, does the status bar disappear on the 7.7 ?

Does the status bar disappear when you view a movie ? I like to have full 1280 x 800 resolution without the annoying status bar. I hope that it only shows when you tab on the movie and disappear when in playing mode.

Yes. The bar fades away to black, with the buttons reducing to very dimly lit dots.

how/where do you get movies?

adinis78 said:
how/where do you get movies?
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May the force of Kim Dotcom be with you.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Yes. The bar fades away to black, with the buttons reducing to very dimly lit dots.
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But it does not give us full screen view?

Earthbrain said:
May the force of Kim Dotcom be with you.
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i meant legaly, i dont mind purchacing them as long as they can be played on the tab with no issues. How do user here get their movies on their tab.

adinis78 said:
i meant legaly, i dont mind purchacing them as long as they can be played on the tab with no issues. How do user here get their movies on their tab.
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I would use Samsung's media hub, if it ever worked for me (I have NEVER had media hub work, on every Samsung device I have ever owned). But even then, there's no guarantee they'll have a big enough selection or that they'll have what you're looking for.
No wonder people just do a Google search for whatever they're looking for, and then just get it from whoever has it, legal or not...

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I would use Samsung's media hub, if it ever worked for me (I have NEVER had media hub work, on every Samsung device I have ever owned). But even then, there's no guarantee they'll have a big enough selection or that they'll have what you're looking for.
No wonder people just do a Google search for whatever they're looking for, and then just get it from whoever has it, legal or not...
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my understanding is that media hub only works on NA versions of the tab (tmobile, att) i have the original tab and when i flashed the european rom to enable calls i media hub would no longer work. I know we can get movies via the market with the 7.7 but only as rentals.

EarlZ said:
But it does not give us full screen view?
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Depends on the aspect ratio of the video. Most will be letterboxed if you want to see the full picture. Most all video players have zoom options that will fill the screen, but then that will tend to cut off parts of the sides of most videos.
One option, if you don't want to be a pirate, is to convert DVDs using Handbrake, then upload them to your tab however you like uploading files.

ok i think i will try itunes to porchuse my content as it seems thats the only legal way to do so. my question to you guys that already play movies on the tab, what should i be looking for? any size restrictions? formart restrictions? it seems i can only get the standard version of the movie, as it states that in order to get the hd version my pc has to be windows 7 and have HDCP components, :-(

Back to the original question, No the status bar does not go away when watching videos. As Jade Eyed Wolf said it fades to black so as not to take your eye away from the image but it still takes up screen resolution and your videos get resized accordingly. I think this is a limitation of honeycomb and in ics hopefully it will completely disappear during full screen events like video watching. I have read online somewhere that a hide status bar apk might work but i am not exactly sure how.

Masterface7 said:
Back to the original question, No the status bar does not go away when watching videos. As Jade Eyed Wolf said it fades to black so as not to take your eye away from the image but it still takes up screen resolution and your videos get resized accordingly. I think this is a limitation of honeycomb and in ics hopefully it will completely disappear during full screen events like video watching. I have read online somewhere that a hide status bar apk might work but i am not exactly sure how.
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There's still a blank space in full-screen mode on ICS on my OG 7". Rather than the faint dots, it's just full black. Again, I think with the aspect ratio of these things there's going to be deadspace in most videos anyway unless you zoom and crop.

Wish it can do full screen so at least screen aging becomes uniform

burhanistan said:
There's still a blank space in full-screen mode on ICS on my OG 7". Rather than the faint dots, it's just full black. Again, I think with the aspect ratio of these things there's going to be deadspace in most videos anyway unless you zoom and crop.
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For normal videos yes but i still wish it was an option, things like older 4:3 videos get shrunk by the bottom bar and full screen activities like games and book reading loses space becuase of it too.
edit: just found Hide Bar it requires root so i haven't tried it yet. Also different bar hider app in market ,third bar hider
I have no idea if these things work with touchwiz at all. Try at your own risk.

adinis78 said:
ok i think i will try itunes to porchuse my content as it seems thats the only legal way to do so. my question to you guys that already play movies on the tab, what should i be looking for? any size restrictions? formart restrictions? it seems i can only get the standard version of the movie, as it states that in order to get the hd version my pc has to be windows 7 and have HDCP components, :-(
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You should have no issues with being able to playback full HD content where you can get it, even with very high bitrates of 9mbit/sec and such. Fortunately, the 7.7 is very good at being able to playback lot's of different formats, not least of which include DivX, h.264, VC1, MP4, etc. It's also very robust in terms of what containers you have them in too, so .avi, .mkv, .m4v, and a bunch of others should play fine. I think even .wmv works too.
Your only size restriction is the fact that only FAT32 is natively supported for the external storage, so that limits you to a 4GB file size. I know that there are some tricks to being able to mount NTFS external storage, but it's a bit of a hassle, and requires root.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You should have no issues with being able to playback full HD content where you can get it, even with very high bitrates of 9mbit/sec and such. Fortunately, the 7.7 is very good at being able to playback lot's of different formats, not least of which include DivX, h.264, VC1, MP4, etc. It's also very robust in terms of what containers you have them in too, so .avi, .mkv, .m4v, and a bunch of others should play fine. I think even .wmv works too.
Your only size restriction is the fact that only FAT32 is natively supported for the external storage, so that limits you to a 4GB file size. I know that there are some tricks to being able to mount NTFS external storage, but it's a bit of a hassle, and requires root.
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Thanks for that but I tried a rental from itunes and it didn't play. I even tried several other players from the market
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[Q] So how is fullscreen video over hdmi being solved?

So I got my microHDMI cable and it works really good except the annoying AR problem with black bars on the sides.
I have seen people saying that video from Googles Play store does go fullscreen, but haven't seen it in action anywhere and can't try it myself because I live in Sweden.
So if Google can do it 3rd party apps should also be able to do it right? Or are they using some unofficial/undocumented API or something? I haven't seen anyone talking about this so I wan't to get some discussions going.

the_slain_man said:
So I got my microHDMI cable and it works really good except the annoying AR problem with black bars on the sides.
I have seen people saying that video from Googles Play store does go fullscreen, but haven't seen it in action anywhere and can't try it myself because I live in Sweden.
So if Google can do it 3rd party apps should also be able to do it right? Or are they using some unofficial/undocumented API or something? I haven't seen anyone talking about this so I wan't to get some discussions going.
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I haven't had a problem with anything other than sound via HDMI. My n10 desktop, google movie rentals and apps that I have run are all at full screen. I don't recall any of them using a different aspect ratio. I just got a new 55inch plasma last week and I did notice the notification bar runs off the screen slightly.
Maybe it's a setting in your tv for that device? Set the tv's settings when using that particular hdmi channel in case they are not global. Try your remote's aspect button in case it is not in the display menu. See if it displays info so you will know what resolution is being displayed?
My son's Samsung Chromebox displays at a very low resolution using hdmi on his tv. Tried every possible setting and he has the black bars on the sides and all the icons and words are so large that the menus don't fit on the screen. Real annoying and looks like an older CGA screen on a pc-xt. (like a 480dpi setting under windows) Tried every cable he could find, every tv setting and it would not display higher 720p. Nothing he could do, we just gave him our old plasma tv and the display is beautiful... Really high resolution.
Same as my tablet, no sound on either of our panasonic tv's... Others work fine... Have you tried viewing it on other tv's.... Could be something is not compatible with your tv and it is down converting the resolution?
Well, those are a couple of things I might look at... Check with others and see if it is a problem for everyone else... Does the n10 main menu show smaller as well? I just double checked and mine runs to all the edges with no "black bars".
I hope something here might help.

metaled222 said:
I haven't had a problem with anything other than sound via HDMI. My n10 desktop, google movie rentals and apps that I have run are all at full screen. I don't recall any of them using a different aspect ratio. I just got a new 55inch plasma last week and I did notice the notification bar runs off the screen slightly.
Maybe it's a setting in your tv for that device? Set the tv's settings when using that particular hdmi channel in case they are not global. Try your remote's aspect button in case it is not in the display menu. See if it displays info so you will know what resolution is being displayed?
My son's Samsung Chromebox displays at a very low resolution using hdmi on his tv. Tried every possible setting and he has the black bars on the sides and all the icons and words are so large that the menus don't fit on the screen. Real annoying and looks like an older CGA screen on a pc-xt. (like a 480dpi setting under windows) Tried every cable he could find, every tv setting and it would not display higher 720p. Nothing he could do, we just gave him our old plasma tv and the display is beautiful... Really high resolution.
Same as my tablet, no sound on either of our panasonic tv's... Others work fine... Have you tried viewing it on other tv's.... Could be something is not compatible with your tv and it is down converting the resolution?
Well, those are a couple of things I might look at... Check with others and see if it is a problem for everyone else... Does the n10 main menu show smaller as well? I just double checked and mine runs to all the edges with no "black bars".
I hope something here might help.
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I run the TV without scaling/zoom so if you don't see the bars and buttons on your screen your TV is wrongly configured. The N10 sends the unaltered 16:10 picture right to the TV thus the black bars.
I know I can probably distort the picture so it fits with the zoom feature on the TV but that is not a solution, I want a full 1920x1080 output for video-playback without any scaling and distortion of the picture. On my Xoom it would lock the apps to 1280x720 resolution so they fit the TV when you plug in the HDMI cable so if feels so stupid that they removed that feature in the never Android version the N10 runs.
No sound on Panasonic is a know problem if you search around here.

the_slain_man said:
I run the TV without scaling/zoom so if you don't see the bars and buttons on your screen your TV is wrongly configured. The N10 sends the unaltered 16:10 picture right to the TV thus the black bars.
I know I can probably distort the picture so it fits with the zoom feature on the TV but that is not a solution, I want a full 1920x1080 output for video-playback without any scaling and distortion of the picture. On my Xoom it would lock the apps to 1280x720 resolution so they fit the TV when you plug in the HDMI cable so if feels so stupid that they removed that feature in the never Android version the N10 runs.
No sound on Panasonic is a know problem if you search around here.
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You are right about the apps and the main n10 menus. But if I. Play a movie (tried ice age that came with the tablet and one I purchased off google play) they fill the screen and the info from my tv shows it at 1080p FULL. Meaning that it is not using stretch, zoom or any other screen altering settings. I don't have black line when playing movies back in the play store movie app. I do get them if I try youtube or other apps. Movies play as they are designed to on mine, completely filling the screen (on their own).
I do know about panasonic, that was my point about different equipment!

metaled222 said:
You are right about the apps and the main n10 menus. But if I. Play a movie (tried ice age that came with the tablet and one I purchased off google play) they fill the screen and the info from my tv shows it at 1080p FULL. Meaning that it is not using stretch, zoom or any other screen altering settings. I don't have black line when playing movies back in the play store movie app. I do get them if I try youtube or other apps. Movies play as they are designed to on mine, completely filling the screen (on their own).
I do know about panasonic, that was my point about different equipment!
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Good to hear that the play store can do it. So should we ask developers to implement the same thing then? I hope it's documented by Google.
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[Question!] Playing videos on browser - HELP!

Hi all, I'm actually coming from iphone, IOS. I was wondering is there a possible way for me to open video through browser like how iphone does? Iphone would like auto maximize the video on browser & resize the play button and easier fast-forwarding drag.
For example, in iphone for videos there are huge play button. When you click on it, it will auto maximize the whole screen and have the video running.
Samsung on the other hand, I can play the video. But I have to manually maximize the video and the play button would be so SMALL like i can't even click on it.
I'm loving this device but i hate this thing the most. argh.

If you turn your phone auto rotate on and turn the phone on its side, video will play full screen