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It is available for preorder at Negri Electronics for 750USD (a little steep imho)!
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-gt-n8000-galaxy-note-10-1-16gb-unlocked-white.html#.UBusDE3iYvv
Another infi here, use G Translate:
http://www.netbooknews.de/75937/sam...s-kommt-am-9-august-hardware-specs-bestatigt/
How to root video: http://androidroot.org/watch_video.php?v=3B53OKX72N7R
So, after many speculation it has a QUAD core CPU, 2GB RAM and a 5MP Camera. The only drawback is the 720 screen, not 1080, but anyway it is the perfect tablet imho, you can do everything with it!.
Will you buy it, and why?

That's WAY too expensive for a tablet.
Especially since it is a 16GB. They can't compete with prices like that.

lol 750 USD? this is gonna be a joke.

A Watcom digitizer is alone 200$ and when the tablet will be available on proper retail channels it will be around 550$. So, under that price it will worth every penny.

If the pen is not necessary, this is a subpar tablet. The TF700 is better.

This is the only thing that makes me want the tablet, SPen, and also Samsung build quality, i own the Prime and i know what i am talking about. TF700 suffers the same I/O problems like TF201.

I have been saving since introduction of first iPad to buy this. I have used windows tablets with wacom pens and only I know how frustrating that is.
Sent from GNote.

For that money they could provide NFC ...i don't understand the omission, you could pair it with your phone easily, Nexus 7 has it. At least it has BT 4.0.

it's a beautiful tablet with a great specs and s-pen but it's a little bit expensive.
i wonder what for the infra-red, remote control what, note 2 maybe?! samsung smart tv maybe?

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 also has IR for the control of TVs and other IR enabled devices.

BTW, this device has the Apt-x codec for bluetooth audio (also BT 4.0 I believe). This codec works great and is sort of rare right now. OS X has it built in but it's sometimes difficult to use (other codecs compete, for some reason). Anyway, there is presently only a handful of devices that use this. I want it as I own a Soundmatters Foxl that uses this codec. It works well and sounds better than regular bluetooth audio (which is marginal).
Note: It's interesting that OS X has this codec but iOS does not. Lame. Also, it's apparently one of the only Android device that uses it.

I hope it does have exFat support (ntfs in my dreams .. ), my Prime has it.

Nice commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbgBxr4H59A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing

diverblue said:
Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing
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What is it that you are missing?

Strange, why no 1080p? This one is top of the line Samsung tablet at the moment, should got at least 1080p. 1280x800 for 10.1" tablet is so yesteryear imo. Battery concern? Mali-400 can't handle 1080p?

brooon said:
What is it that you are missing?
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When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.

I really don't need 1080 screen resolution...it comes with age (worse eye site)
As for pen, it's something different because it has 1024 pressure levels, not just 256 like our Note does.
Another selling point for me is the inclusion of 2GB of RAM, dreaming of dual booting in Ubuntu (or in worst case WinRT which needs a lot of RAM).

diverblue said:
When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.
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Sorry for the slight off topic but Touch Screen Tune from the market sorts out calibration. Does need root.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

Also, if i activate the pen cursor in ICS i don't feel the need for any calibration.

CTRLR holding a 7" tablet

Hi guys,
Been wanting to do this for a long time
Here it is... what a bad boy!!
The tablet is a cheapish chinese mali400 2GBram with hdmi out (hyundai T7s) , I bough instead of the ouya, sooo glad I did to, definitely getting my monies worth!
I got the same apps/emulators setup on here as the MOJO.... obviously it doesn't play as nice, but does okay
Been playing N64, MK4 is smooth, GE 007 and Dest. Durby both playable but laggy (9-30ps).
It's kinda heavy holding it, close to 1kilo as a guess.
It's not to bad if upright and balanced, but when angeled the weight of the tablet is noticeable.
Overall, feels comfortable with the controller, like in front of the TV
It's sturdy but there's a tiny bit of play at the bottom, even with the screw on tight... it's really testing the CTRLR's build quality here! lol
This is da shiz! Very cool,
I did photos as I put it together.. it's just fine rope and a small L bracket with tape wraped around it.
I'll blog it one day soonish..
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Hi,
I've finished my blog post about how I made my 7 inch clip.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/14/mojo-shield-a-7-inch-tablet-on-mad-catz-travel-clip
I update it with the support bracket info.

ctrlr disassembled
After using my 7” tablet with the CTRLR, I started to wonder why the CTRLR weighs so much?
So I decided to open it and see.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/22/mad-catz-mojo-ctrlr-disassembled/
Next time I'll take better photos!

gwaldo said:
After using my 7” tablet with the CTRLR, I started to wonder why the CTRLR weighs so much?
So I decided to open it and see.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/22/mad-catz-mojo-ctrlr-disassembled/
Next time I'll take better photos!
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Hey there is vibration !!!! cool

Dead-neM said:
Hey there is vibration !!!! cool
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Afraid not - those are weights added to improve the balance and feel of the CTRLR.

Will this controller work with HTC One over bluetooth?

suku_patel_22 said:
Will this controller work with HTC One over bluetooth?
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Only with an OTG USB cable, right now (unless you have the unlocked, developer or Google edition, in which case you're fine). As soon as you get the KitKat update then you'll be able to sync directly.

Mad Catz Rich said:
Only with an OTG USB cable, right now (unless you have the unlocked, developer or Google edition, in which case you're fine). As soon as you get the KitKat update then you'll be able to sync directly.
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I have the international unlocked version and running KitKat with Sense 5.5.
So I guess it will work. I want to connect phone to TV using MHL and pair it via bluetooth and have a mini console
Also where can I buy this from?
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

suku_patel_22 said:
I have the international unlocked version and running KitKat with Sense 5.5.
So I guess it will work. I want to connect phone to TV using MHL and pair it via bluetooth and have a mini console
Also where can I buy this from?
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
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Can you disable the screen while on MHL? I hear there's performance issues with even mirroring to mini/micro HDMI?
But yeah that will work.
The retail version controller will be BT2 and BT4 so will work on "any" android/PC device and includes the travel clip
Not sure when it will be out, I hope soon I want another one :fingers-crossed:
I guess on amazon and newegg etc
I don't think they will be cheap either, over $50 for sure.

I've updated my blog, Here's me showing of the beast, thought I'd share with you guys :good:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X1upRc5gNeo

Top list of Mini PCs

Hello guys, I just saw this list of all the top Mini PCs for May, thought it looked very useful so wanted to share it.
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Full list here (23 models).
CAN has posted a little article on it also.
It's shocking that Measy A2W Chromecast style dongle. Literally peanuts.

I have two of the Measy style dongles. Worthless IMHO.
Ok. so if you ONLY want to stream from your phone then it's great. and for about $20 it is a good value.
I just received one of the Android TV boxes with the Amlogic S802 processors, M8. while it's just over $100, it's far more useful. Basically turns your tv into an android phone minus the touch screen. XBMC plays most videos including DTS audio and also streams cable tv in HD from my silicon dust HDhomerun prime.
Enjoy.

Icyman said:
I have two of the Measy style dongles. Worthless IMHO.
Ok. so if you ONLY want to stream from your phone then it's great. and for about $20 it is a good value.
I just received one of the Android TV boxes with the Amlogic S802 processors, M8. while it's just over $100, it's far more useful. Basically turns your tv into an android phone minus the touch screen. XBMC plays most videos including DTS audio and also streams cable tv in HD from my silicon dust HDhomerun prime.
Enjoy.
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Indeed, the larger boxes (Mini PCs) are worth the extra bucks. The little Chromecast style Ezcast M2 streaming dongles are handy for 20/30 bucks. But the larger units where its at.
Saying that there are two new units recently announced. RK3288 based. Ugoos UM3 dongle, and the mini PC TV box style is the Ugoos UT3.
Supporting 2K and 4K video playback and recording.

BlobLobba said:
Indeed, the larger boxes (Mini PCs) are worth the extra bucks. The little Chromecast style Ezcast M2 streaming dongles are handy for 20/30 bucks. But the larger units where its at.
Saying that there are two new units recently announced. RK3288 based. Ugoos UM3 dongle, and the mini PC TV box style is the Ugoos UT3.
Supporting 2K and 4K video playback and recording.
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I think i may wait for the Ugoos Ut3 as it has RK3288 CPU.
I have the Mk809iv KitKat TV stick and it works fine.

Looks like a screenshot of a web store.

britoso said:
Looks like a screenshot of a web store.
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It's a Newsletter they send out. Sometimes it's Mini PC, sometimes tablets, phones and so on. I find it handy for keeping up with what's released and available. I just entered my email to sign up and then after that you get one around once or twice a week. Normally has around 18 devices.

BlobLobba said:
It's a Newsletter they send out. Sometimes it's Mini PC, sometimes tablets, phones and so on. I find it handy for keeping up with what's released and available. I just entered my email to sign up and then after that you get one around once or twice a week. Normally has around 18 devices.
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The thread title is misleading, its not a top list of anything.

is 4k 60p the future? nvidia shield over fire tv - mroe future proof?

amj i right in thinking the shield tv is a better buy
im in two minds whether to exchange it or not, but it seems the shield is more future proof and has better tech.. not sure if this is worth double the price of the fire tv4k
i dont need to play games, although its a good option. im considering selling the controller to compensate the cost slightly as i use my logitech touch as a remote
i mainly use kodi / plex / bbc iplayer
will there be other apps coming i.e other uk channels

kyrusdemnati said:
amj i right in thinking the shield tv is a better buy
im in two minds whether to exchange it or not, but it seems the shield is more future proof and has better tech.. not sure if this is worth double the price of the fire tv4k
i dont need to play games, although its a good option. im considering selling the controller to compensate the cost slightly as i use my logitech touch as a remote
i mainly use kodi / plex / bbc iplayer
will there be other apps coming i.e other uk channels
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Right now you can get the Nvidia Shield TV for $150 so it's a no brainer ?
The Nvidia Shield TV is a more powerful system than the PS3, so there's no comparison with the Fire TV. And yes 4K/60FPS is what you'll want for the future if not right now if you own a 4K TV. And that controller is absolutely amazing with a very high level of functionality and features.

do you think its worth swapping the controller for 360 controllers?

aenews said:
Right now you can get the Nvidia Shield TV for $150 so it's a no brainer
The Nvidia Shield TV is a more powerful system than the PS3, so there's no comparison with the Fire TV. And yes 4K/60FPS is what you'll want for the future if not right now if you own a 4K TV. And that controller is absolutely amazing with a very high level of functionality and features.
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Its an impressive peace of kit for what it is, ill give you that, but, "ps3"?
I'd be very surprised to learn its as powerfull as a last gen console, dont get me wrong, the shields got some horse power, for sure, but not sure about ps3 hardware level.........where did you read this?

The GPU is twice as powerful as that in the xbox 360 according to Nvidia
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The screenshot is from their reveal, here is the video if interested
https://youtu.be/x26Ca_Ow-C8

wo thats powerful be good if there was a way to utlising that power

aenews said:
Right now you can get the Nvidia Shield TV for $150 so it's a no brainer .
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I'd bite, care to point me in the right direction?

audiophan said:
I'd bite, care to point me in the right direction?
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Yeah! First of all, make sure that you're signed up for the GeForce Newsletter. Here's some more information from Nvidia Forums. You might also have luck contacting Amazon Live Chat as I got a $50 Discount that way as well.
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banderos101 said:
Its an impressive peace of kit for what it is, ill give you that, but, "ps3"?
I'd be very surprised to learn its as powerfull as a last gen console, dont get me wrong, the shields got some horse power, for sure, but not sure about ps3 hardware level.........where did you read this?
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Yeah the Nvidia Shield and Tegra X1 SoC are quite capable. There's even a Crysis 3 Port that exists in beta form though as of yet unreleased. Not to mention that existing games that have been ported to Android specifically for the TK1/TX1 run fluidly and some with adjustable quality settings owing to their origins as PC Ports (i.e. The Talos Principle).
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wo thats powerful be good if there was a way to utlising that power
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Besides the plethora of existing ports of some older graphically intense games, there's also Dolphin Emulator and the high-end application of the Nvidia Shield as a 4K Media Player (@60FPS). Not to mention that some Android Games support 4K and would automatically be fairly graphically intense at high resolutions.

aenews said:
Yeah! First of all, make sure that you're signed up for the GeForce Newsletter. Here's some more information from Nvidia Forums. You might also have luck contacting Amazon Live Chat as I got a $50 Discount that way as well.
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Much appreciated! Just snagged one from NewEgg for $150ish

tillaz said:
The GPU is twice as powerful as that in the xbox 360 according to Nvidia
The screenshot is from their reveal, here is the video if interested
https://youtu.be/x26Ca_Ow-C8
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Yes now where are the games that actually utilize all of this power. In the back of my mind I am worried that they will not come like Nvidia said they will.

Shield 2?

I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?
Thanks

If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box

I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV

Lorka.Tinou said:
I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
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The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.

Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.

There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.
http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/
Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/
I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.

just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
Sent from my SGP512 using Tapatalk

As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.

I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.

Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/

silverblack said:
Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
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not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same
the new rear layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-
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the old layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.
Lost the Sd card slot now.
Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.

Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.
"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.

Why on earth would they take the sd card out?

HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.

does the original not have 2.0b

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Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
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it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.

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HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
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HUYI said:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
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Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.

Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.
On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.