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South Korean TV dock looks AWESOME. WHERE THE F IS OURS?

I'm gettin sick of this crap. Give us the watered down products, and the rest of the world what we want in the first place, RIGHT?
There's a new TV dock for the galaxy S in south korea, comes with small keyboard, and controller.
Will we ever get one? If we can get our hands on the dock, could it work with our phones?

here's the engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/samsung-galaxy-s-hoppin-hops-to-south-korea-includes-tv-dock-fo/
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This is a specific phone... It's not for all and any galaxy s.

chronster said:
I'm gettin sick of this crap. Give us the watered down products, and the rest of the world what we want in the first place, RIGHT?
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There's a few reasons for this. Samsung is a Korean company, of course they'd give their own people things first. That dock is specific for the Korean phone, and in Korea there is a domestic satellite TV service, called T-DMB, their cellphones and other devices receive giving more incentive for a device like this.

Droid X has HDMI out... goodbye
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Droid X has HDMI out... goodbye
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what's your point? you don't need hdmi for 720p content, and these phones have the capability, they just need the software.

Well samsung is a south korean company, makes sense they get stuff before we do.

m91-30 said:
what's your point? you don't need hdmi for 720p content
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Unless you are already bringing viewing resolution considerably lower, of course it matters.
What in the world do you mean by a statement like that that? NTSC video is 720 x 480 at 60i. 720p is 1280 x 720 at 30p or 24p or 60p.
You can do very well with component or even S video (if you can still find it, they have all but killed it off) out for 720p content, but if you are talking about composite ("yellow cable"), I firmly disagree.
The instances where HDMI can be substituted are fairly few, and exceptionally so in consumer video. It is digital, bundles audio on one cable, and is high bandwidth. The only thorn is HDCP.
Saying you don't need HDMI for HD content is almost like saying you don't need cinema when there is VHS.
But then perhaps I am missing your point. I have yet to try it, but perhaps thee most practical way to play video from these phones is to mount them as disks and play the file themselves through a player without involving video transfer at all. Is that what you meant?
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.

I've used the 3 RCA (2 audio, one video) into one 3.5mm jack cable on my omnia 2, and camera. 720P isn't THAT high resolution, and it can be displayed fairly decently through this cable. not only this, but most modern tvs can mount the phone as a USB drive and just play the video directly.

m91-30 said:
I've used the 3 RCA (2 audio, one video) into one 3.5mm jack cable on my omnia 2, and camera. 720P isn't THAT high resolution, and it can be displayed fairly decently through this cable. not only this, but most modern tvs can mount the phone as a USB drive and just play the video directly.
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the tv dock is one of those "will be available with froyo" things.
being a cable guy i cant let the incorrect statements about video go un answered. you CANNOT get hidef out of a base band (rca, yellow) cable. period end of story. the limitation is the tv input. ALL base band inputs are 480i. s-video is 480p. component will dispay at 1080i and hdmi at 1080p. component and hdmi are the only inputs that will accept hidef signals. some cable companies and broadcast stations offer hidef which uses the f-connector. the reason for this aception is the tuner. rca, component, hdim and svideo are display inputs. the fconnector goes to a tuner.

Oppo Launch F-box Android STB to stream Find 5 content to your TV

Oppo Launch F-box Android STB to stream Find 5 content to your TV
The Oppo Find 5 comes with a very impressive 5-inch 1080p HD display, but sometimes even that isn’t big enough. Thankfully Oppo have released the Oppo F-Box an Android set-top-box from streaming Oppo Find 5 content!
Oppo are no strangers to home media devices, their Blueray players are regarded as some of the best on the market, and with the with other Chinese manufacturers getting in to the Android STB game (Haier, Hisense and Xiaomi) it makes perfect sense for Oppo to launch one too.
Oppo Launch F box Android STB to stream Find 5 content to your TV
Oppo have called their Android streaming device the Oppo F-box (Fun Box?). The sleek black box is so compact it makes even Apple’s minute Apple TV look overly large, and should fit in to even the most cramped media environments.
Full specs of the device have yet to be released, but what we do know is that the F-Box is that it will go on sale internationally later this year, and allows users to mirror content from their Oppo Find 5 to your TV. This includes the home screen, movies, the web browser and even games!
We also have yet to discover if the F-Box is compatible with all Android devices or will only work with the Find 5.
We hope to get our hands on the F-box for review once they are available.
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OPPO Style confirmed they'll be adding it to the site once there's stock. It's pretty slick though. I believe Engadget China used it with a Samsung and it worked...

I cant wait to get this, to go along with my Find 5, This phone is sweet its so clean looking, and built with a metal frame inside, its one hell of a sturdy device with premium looks to go along with it. I like how the new batch don't have the back, home and menu displayed unless its turned on, its basically just a screen, all black, It kinda reminds me of my One X International Version but with a lot better specs.
Specs are current or better than today's phones but cost $200 less Unlocked.
With the S4Pro 1.5 Quad Core, 16 or 32GB, Full 5 Inch IPS HD Display, 2GB, Factory Unlocked, 13MP HDR Exmor Camera, DNLA and Much more. I think its the best deal for the price, for a 32GB 5 Inch Display.
I like how Oppo listen to the community and have a future product request section on their forums.

Can't wait..
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Stream the content on tv with cable mini-usb to hdmi is no posibile ?
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Did anyone find out, when this box will be available. They already announced this in January 2013 an still nothing to buy.

Waiting
Waiting to get this cool F-Box in Indonesia

I tried NETGEAR Push2TV 3000. Didn't work right out of the box, but software update almost solved the problem.
Right now my Push2TV works absolutely fine with Samsung AllShare Cast(tm), which is Miracast(tm) in general. As of Oppo Find5, it connects, mirrors screen, transmits video to TV (and video only), but plays sound through phone speaker . Seems like Find5 is not fully Miracast compatible as of today.
p.s. forgot to mention, CM10, PAC and other CM based ROMs ain't able to connect even. So, "Wi-Fi Display" in their settings is just two words that don't have real meaning, but I believe it'll be fixed eventually.

vlgorev said:
I tried NETGEAR Push2TV 3000. Didn't work right out of the box, but software update almost solved the problem.
Right now my Push2TV works absolutely fine with Samsung AllShare Cast(tm), which is Miracast(tm) in general. As of Oppo Find5, it connects, mirrors screen, transmits video to TV (and video only), but plays sound through phone speaker . Seems like Find5 is not fully Miracast compatible as of today.
p.s. forgot to mention, CM10, PAC and other CM based ROMs ain't able to connect even. So, "Wi-Fi Display" in their settings is just two words that don't have real meaning, but I believe it'll be fixed eventually.
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CM will not work with the Netgear Push2TV on any device other than the Nexus 4. This is because the Push2TV requires source devices to support HDCP - which is the OPPOSITE of the way it should be. Unfortunately, right now, the N4 is the only device that has HDCPv2 libraries compatible with Android 4.2. (Well, maybe the GS4 and the HTC One???)
I haven't tried to see if the Oppo works with Samsung's Allshare Cast dongle, which is more forgiving of devices that lack HDCP.
I haven't tried Miracast on my Oppo yet, partly due to knowing that CM needs a kernel rebase to fix assorted display issues, and partly due to the fact that I'm kinda disappointed in Miracast in general - it doesn't perform well even with a Nexus 4 with any dongle I've tried (PTV3000 and Allshare Cast dongle).

CTRLR holding a 7" tablet

Hi guys,
Been wanting to do this for a long time
Here it is... what a bad boy!!
The tablet is a cheapish chinese mali400 2GBram with hdmi out (hyundai T7s) , I bough instead of the ouya, sooo glad I did to, definitely getting my monies worth!
I got the same apps/emulators setup on here as the MOJO.... obviously it doesn't play as nice, but does okay
Been playing N64, MK4 is smooth, GE 007 and Dest. Durby both playable but laggy (9-30ps).
It's kinda heavy holding it, close to 1kilo as a guess.
It's not to bad if upright and balanced, but when angeled the weight of the tablet is noticeable.
Overall, feels comfortable with the controller, like in front of the TV
It's sturdy but there's a tiny bit of play at the bottom, even with the screw on tight... it's really testing the CTRLR's build quality here! lol
This is da shiz! Very cool,
I did photos as I put it together.. it's just fine rope and a small L bracket with tape wraped around it.
I'll blog it one day soonish..
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Hi,
I've finished my blog post about how I made my 7 inch clip.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/14/mojo-shield-a-7-inch-tablet-on-mad-catz-travel-clip
I update it with the support bracket info.

ctrlr disassembled
After using my 7” tablet with the CTRLR, I started to wonder why the CTRLR weighs so much?
So I decided to open it and see.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/22/mad-catz-mojo-ctrlr-disassembled/
Next time I'll take better photos!

gwaldo said:
After using my 7” tablet with the CTRLR, I started to wonder why the CTRLR weighs so much?
So I decided to open it and see.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/22/mad-catz-mojo-ctrlr-disassembled/
Next time I'll take better photos!
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Hey there is vibration !!!! cool

Dead-neM said:
Hey there is vibration !!!! cool
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Afraid not - those are weights added to improve the balance and feel of the CTRLR.

Will this controller work with HTC One over bluetooth?

suku_patel_22 said:
Will this controller work with HTC One over bluetooth?
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Only with an OTG USB cable, right now (unless you have the unlocked, developer or Google edition, in which case you're fine). As soon as you get the KitKat update then you'll be able to sync directly.

Mad Catz Rich said:
Only with an OTG USB cable, right now (unless you have the unlocked, developer or Google edition, in which case you're fine). As soon as you get the KitKat update then you'll be able to sync directly.
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I have the international unlocked version and running KitKat with Sense 5.5.
So I guess it will work. I want to connect phone to TV using MHL and pair it via bluetooth and have a mini console
Also where can I buy this from?
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suku_patel_22 said:
I have the international unlocked version and running KitKat with Sense 5.5.
So I guess it will work. I want to connect phone to TV using MHL and pair it via bluetooth and have a mini console
Also where can I buy this from?
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Can you disable the screen while on MHL? I hear there's performance issues with even mirroring to mini/micro HDMI?
But yeah that will work.
The retail version controller will be BT2 and BT4 so will work on "any" android/PC device and includes the travel clip
Not sure when it will be out, I hope soon I want another one :fingers-crossed:
I guess on amazon and newegg etc
I don't think they will be cheap either, over $50 for sure.

I've updated my blog, Here's me showing of the beast, thought I'd share with you guys :good:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X1upRc5gNeo

Is nvidia shield android tv worth buying at this point?

My knockoff android tv set-top box is crap so I am considering to buy nvidia shield android TV. Considering it was released just under a year ago, I am worried that there will be a better version released soon and I would spend my money on obsolete version. Will there be a newer version soon?

A year goes by, and nothing has been able to beat it thusfar.
Nvidia are quite good with long term support, so expect this device to last atleast another three to five years.
This is a box aimed at the livingroom. They aren't going to bring one out every year. That's the whole reason they made it 13 times more powerful than anything else out there.
You just have to compare the latest flagship Galaxy S7 with the Shield TV to see that.
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Yup. Just a pity its let down by the latest v3.0 upgrade.

Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.

silverblack said:
Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.
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No no no. It doesn't even have close to the future standard of 4k video will be. It is 30hz, not hdmi 2.0, doesn't support 10 bit color, etc, etc. The shield is the only thing that wll still work with 4k netflx in a couple years everything else will be deemed "outdated".

nate56567 said:
No no no. It doesn't even have close to the future standard of 4k video will be. It is 30hz, not hdmi 2.0, doesn't support 10 bit color, etc, etc. The shield is the only thing that wll still work with 4k netflx in a couple years everything else will be deemed "outdated".
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Well seeing as i dont have a 4K TV those setting are irrelevent at the moment.
Also the Fire TV is £85 cheaper than the Shield just now so yes,yes yes :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UH2O6T2/ref=fs_aftv

silverblack said:
Well seeing as i dont have a 4K TV those setting are irrelevent at the moment.
Also the Fire TV is £85 cheaper than the Shield just now so yes,yes yes :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UH2O6T2/ref=fs_aftv
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If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.

nate56567 said:
If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.
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Thats why i have one love gadgets :good:

nate56567 said:
If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.
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Nice. Got the item delivered today. It's upgrading it to 3.0 on its own.
Considering that I do have a 4K TV, good investment.
Thanks guys.

To be honest, yes it's the best buy you can make. There are some issuies with 3.0, but they are fixing it. Also keep in mind that you can bevefit from allot of feautres of the shield tv like if you have a GTX GPU

Price on the hardware is going down, more and more reasons to own one over time, and the AnTutu benchmark app listed my shield android tv (with tons of apps running in the background) as being nearly twice the total performance overall of the 2nd place result. It's not the best of everything, but where it shines ... it shines a lot , where it's not the best, it's still able to compete with some of the best out there. It's been out about a year, and yet it's still the highest performing device. It plays everything you throw at it... and there's so much it does right that I can't suggest against owning one unless the person can't afford it.

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Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.
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Please don't listen to this guy. The Shield can do HDMI 2.0, 4K output, 4:4:4 chroma, bitstream audio,etc, etc. Basically the newest most current technology.

Gasaraki- said:
Please don't listen to this guy. The Shield can do HDMI 2.0, 4K output, 4:4:4 chroma, bitstream audio,etc, etc. Basically the newest most current technology.
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Thats great if your interested in all that crap but im not !
Oh and BTW i have a Shield. !

Shield 2?

I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?
Thanks

If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box

I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV

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I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
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The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.

Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.

There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.
http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/
Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/
I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.

just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
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As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.

I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.

Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/

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Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
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not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same
the new rear layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-
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the old layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.
Lost the Sd card slot now.
Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.

Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.
"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.

Why on earth would they take the sd card out?

HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.

does the original not have 2.0b

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Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
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it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.

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HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
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HUYI said:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
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Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.

Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.
On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.