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I just picked up another 8525 after returning the first one to checkout the Blackjack. I wanted to make sure I at least tried it before my 30 day return policy kicked in. I noticed on my second 8525 the keyboard does not lock into PDA mode as secure as my first one. It seems that the top part of the phone locks better then the bottom. So when I hold it has a phone I tend to slide the keyboard open a little. Has anyone had these issues? It just seems to easy on the second one to unlock/open the keyboard.
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I just picked up another 8525 after returning the first one to checkout the Blackjack. I wanted to make sure I at least tried it before my 30 day return policy kicked in. I noticed on my second 8525 the keyboard does not lock into PDA mode as secure as my first one. It seems that the top part of the phone locks better then the bottom. So when I hold it has a phone I tend to slide the keyboard open a little. Has anyone had these issues? It just seems to easy on the second one to unlock/open the keyboard.
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I'm afraid this is a fairly common problem. The metal runners/sliders have small indents at each end (cannot see these unless device is dismantled) that create the click into place when the sliding blocks attached to the base part slide over them.
These indents are often too shallow to create a nice firm click and in extreme cases the actual runner has sprung apart where small micro welds have broken.
There are fixes for this but only for those that don't care about their warranty and want to dis-assemble the device. I have done this fix and it now requires a very firm two thumbed push to open. However I do not recommend you do this when there is the possibility of exchange/return or repair.
Mike
If you decide to do it on your own I can vouch for Mike's method. He emailed me the process and I posted it on the WIKI.
barrydavisjr said:
If you decide to do it on your own I can vouch for Mike's method. He emailed me the process and I posted it on the WIKI.
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Sounds like its possbile then. Where in the Wiki can I find the how-to? I looked and could not find it. Thanks again for the information.
It is under the hardware overview at the bottom. andMike i added some props to you for the method!
Mike, you must of really nailed this process. I guess I have to try it now.
barrydavisjr said:
It is under the hardware overview at the bottom. andMike i added some props to you for the method!
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Cheers barrydavisjr.
Did it all work out well for you, I hope so.
Thanks
Mike
mikechannon said:
Cheers barrydavisjr.
Did it all work out well for you, I hope so.
Thanks
Mike
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Yes Worked perfectly!!!
I have not done it yet, but plan to soon. To clarify what your fix does is that it tightens the sliding keyboard rails? or provide a better click when its closed?
Just read your site. I think that answered my question. Thanks, I will try and post my success (...or failure).
Great fix. One of the little but annoying things about the device fixed.
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hello, I got my device ! I'm very happy but when I slide the keyboard, and here the left 'click' then it freezes.
It is very strange, is there anything I can do ?
Thanks in advance for any suggestion
dam said:
hello, I got my device ! I'm very happy but when I slide the keyboard, and here the left 'click' then it freezes.
It is very strange, is there anything I can do ?
Thanks in advance for any suggestion
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I don't think the "clicking" mechanism is what's making your device freeze. I believe its the display going from portrait to landscape mode what's probably making it freeze up. Have you hard reset to make sure there is no 3rd party today plugins that are having issues with switching to landscape mode?
sliding keyboard, frozen device
dear brmcguire, thank you for your answer. I think I have to be more precise.
When I slide the keyboard and stop before the "click", it is ok, it moves to the landscape mode without problem. Then, when I push untill it locks, on the right lock it is ok but when pushed untill the left lock, then it freeezes. To be precise, "freeze" means that the menu bar opens, and the tactil screen does not answer anymore to the pen, (I can still use the buttons).
That is why I believe it is a hardware malfunction, but I'm still a newby
Does anybody had a similar problem ?
Any help appreciated
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dear brmcguire, thank you for your answer. I think I have to be more precise.
When I slide the keyboard and stop before the "click", it is ok, it moves to the landscape mode without problem. Then, when I push untill it locks, on the right lock it is ok but when pushed untill the left lock, then it freeezes. To be precise, "freeze" means that the menu bar opens, and the tactil screen does not answer anymore to the pen, (I can still use the buttons).
That is why I believe it is a hardware malfunction, but I'm still a newby
Does anybody had a similar problem ?
Any help appreciated
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Ok, I see. It does sound like a hardware issue. I would try exchanging it for a new one.
dam said:
dear brmcguire, thank you for your answer. I think I have to be more precise.
When I slide the keyboard and stop before the "click", it is ok, it moves to the landscape mode without problem. Then, ...,,,,,,,,,,,,
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I think we're all agreed it has to be hardware. There is no software that operates when the "left" edge clicks into place. There are two circuits that operate softwarewise when the keyboard opens
1. There is a small magnet operated switch that changes portrait to landscape and that's working fine,
2. The light sensor above the "p" key top right which operates the keyboard backlight.
I don't think either of these is responsible.
At a guess either the Multi connector Mylar Cable for the screen/digitizer connection is getting trapped/pulled/stretched and partially breaking its connection or the click into place is creating an internal squeeze against possibly the "windows" button hardkey next to the Green Phone Key.
I think like brmcguire that I'd get it back to shop while still in warranty perhaps after doing all the usual things like a hard reset - just in case we're all wrong and it is software.
Or you just never quite open it far enough to click into place. I do this a lot, partly because I've got a really firm click into place on both right and left sides that if I'm just quickly using keyboard I find I can get every key without the final clicks.
Mike
thanks
I tried hardware reset but no change. Anyway, thank you so much for your anwers. Not that it works better, but to feel support is quiet healing.
cheers !
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I think you're right, maybe we need a Hermes counselling and psychological support group. All charges forwarded to HTC of course!
Mike
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ok, I gave back my device, I will see what happen. Thanks !
RE. loose keyboard
CAN someone give me the direct link to the wiki page bc i couldnt find it i dont know why, if you know how to do it you can also send me the directions but PLZ someone send me a link thanks again
Did this fix after fighting with a very loose slider from the beginning. This and Mob6 software and I love my TyTn again.
Thanks for the instructions and thanks for the wiki.
derf
Hi Guys,
I bought one of these and as "good" as it may seem, just warning you off, or at least giving you notice.
The magnet affects the phone and operates the screen by it's self.
Well, that's a little miss leading. What it does is I think, is tell the phone that you have opened the slide.
So depending on your settings, whenever you attach the phone it will either unlock it, open the dialer, read your sms messages or start pressing the soft keys.
Apart from the ridiculously poor delivery (1st class postage arrive 7 days after shipping. A parcel from US came quicker" ) that I don't know whether to blame on them or Royal Mail, I must of got the one adapter with no bloody adhesive on the back! Industrial sticky tape needed, that's if I decide I can live with the unlocking!
*mods* Really sorry, I didn't notice the "accessories" thread. I only hang out in this one, I've only just noticed it.
Sorry to hear you are not very happy with this, i've had one for a while and i reckon its one of the best i've had. as well as being small and discreet the magnet holds the pda even when driving down dirt tracks and over speed bumps.
The magnet does occasionally set off the quick list but it has already been mentioned on this forum that it is activated by magnet it just depends where you put the adapter
i dont know about you guys but im keeping magnets well away from my device.
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The magnet does occasionally set off the quick list but it has already been mentioned on this forum that it is activated by magnet it just depends where you put the adapter
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Do you have a Dual then? Where is your strip to attached the magnet?
After a bit of experimentation, if you place the strip horizontal just underneath the camera (in the center) then the magnet wont set off the phone!
Now I've fixed it with my own tape I'm really happy with it!
i've got mine right in the middle, covering the orange logo, after playi g with it a bit last night it seems to depend a lot on how quickly you move the dual towards the magnet and whether you go staraight towards it or come in from an angle. one thing i havent tried is disabling the quick menu, will give it a go later as i never use it anyway
see link below in the focus forum and WPCentral article
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9492249&posted=1#post9492249
http://www.wpcentral.com/samsung-focus-couch-potato-or-glitch
Just confirmed this issue on my Omnia7.
This is retarded. Capacitive screens don't work that way.
not having any problem on my omnia 7...tried everything to try emulate some of the effects reported! not seeing any deterioration in sensitivity!
Not a pickle from my Omnia 7, Still as lush as ever and responsive as it should be, i've been mostly USING in on a pillow/soft surface when it's laying down next to me when i'm home and sitting here for hours on end.
Loving it even more when all these bugs/glitches come out and it's stomping them down.
I feel I should come back to this and apologise as I have found a pillow which messes up my phone's touch responsiveness too. Interesting.
at45 said:
I feel I should come back to this and apologise as I have found a pillow which messes up my phone's touch responsiveness too. Interesting.
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What kind of pillow? This smells of static to me, seeing as capactive screens rely on the tiny electrical charges in your body. Polyester fabrics getsquite static, do they not?
It happens to me when I place it on my desk...
I noticed the same thing...but I didn't associate this with the soft surface, the touch screen doesn't work when it's plugged into the charger
gdrijver said:
I noticed the same thing...but I didn't associate this with the soft surface, the touch screen doesn't work when it's plugged into the charger
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Glad I am not the only one who has seen this.
gdrijver said:
I noticed the same thing...but I didn't associate this with the soft surface, the touch screen doesn't work when it's plugged into the charger
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It says that in the manual! Page 12:
The Manual said:
While the device is charging, the touch screen may
not function due to an unstable power supply. If
this happens, unplug the travel adapter from the
device.
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Of course, that's assuming your power supply is dodgy...
CreepinJesus said:
It says that in the manual! Page 12:
Of course, that's assuming your power supply is dodgy...
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I believe the manual is a load of BS. My iPad works fine when connected to my powerpoint. I've noticed that when the Omnia is charging via powerpoint its screen sensitivity does go down, BUT, when you hold the phone with your other hand, or even just touch part of the rear/side with one finger, the screen starts working flawlessly.... imo it could be some design flaw regarding conductivity
When I place my Omnia 7 on my car phone holder (from Capdase), the screen does not respond at times, and I can't seem to find any pattern why or how this happens. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Once I take it off the phone holder, the screen is working fine again.
I wrote it in the other thread... but I had this problem too and after I flashed the newest firmware it was gone. Now the screen responds perfect no matter where I place the phone.
You should check the thread with omnia firmware out
Another solution I found is that you would need to Hard reset your device not through the settings but turning off and than press/hold volume down + camera and power on. Than press the middle button twice and than you will not have anymore problems with touch screen.
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see link below in the focus forum and WPCentral article
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9492249&posted=1#post9492249
http://www.wpcentral.com/samsung-focus-couch-potato-or-glitch
Just confirmed this issue on my Omnia7.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing
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o really?! I thought it was just magic and the magic couldn't work when the phone was placed on soft things! im so glad someone with intelligence could teach me about this capacitive thingy whoever he is!
you have completely cleared this up for me - i now see the error of my ways. must have been having hallucinations or something. sorry for this disruption everybody!
i hope the next version of our phone uses magic because that would be really cool!
on a side note to that, after updating my firmware yesterday this dosnt seem to happen anymore. stupid hallucinations!
Had this before, after the firmware Upgrade the Problem seems to be resolved but after some time ( 1 week or so ) it's back again.
Looks like there is a fix for the laying-flat-issue for the Focus:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11077163#post11077163
Maybe it works for some issues with the Omnia 7 as well. Did anybody already try?
Yes, have the same. If I put it on my couch, or bed. Sometimes also on hard surfaces. Doesn't bother me too much though, but it is weird.
I'm not trying to toot my own horn here...but I was literally the first person (or one of them at least) on Microsoft answers, Youtube and forums alike to raise concern about this issue.
It's a conductivity problem. As long as one hand is touching the back of the phone (sometimes near the top or sides too) then the touch screen will operate normally.
The reason it stuffs up when you have it flat is because you're not touching the back of the device, hence the conductivity flaw.
Check all this, it's a problem with the Omnia 7's, deal with it or chose another handset. I ended up keeping mine, I can live with it.
(Excuse the fact they aren't URL, stupid forum rules won't let me until 8 posts. Just remove the space between h and ttp * w and ww)
h ttp://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=xTSi3VdFJXg
h ttp://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=UdDNRYSMGHk
h ttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/thread/5c75a85c-9d38-4d12-8211-1c7432e22b2d
h ttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/thread/319a7ed0-0889-4110-a9f1-81a620ba7a7f
I just ripped some magnets out of an old hard drive and want to use them to make a car dock from a DIY I saw (http://forum.androidcentral.com/evo...completely-invisible-phone-vehicle-mount.html)
I am worried about putting a magnet on phone as it always been common sense that magnets + electronics = broken ****. Though, isn't it magnets in the commercial car docks that trigger car mode to pop up on the phone?
small magnets will not hurt - many phones have magnets as sensors - the blackberry determines holstered or not via a magnet in the holster. Other Moto phones determined if they are docked or not via magnets in the dock.
But, any magnet strong enough to keep the phone from bouncing loose could cause interference issues. I don't think you can do any permanent damage, but if things start acting wonky, it may be the magnet.
ok I ran a magnet over, stuck on a few points but car mode never came up. Know the right location/method?
be very careful of the speakers. I have a friend who tried to do the same thing and his speaker sounded really bad after that
riotburn said:
ok I ran a magnet over, stuck on a few points but car mode never came up. Know the right location/method?
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As far as I've read, magnets trigger no dock on the Atrix.
It's thought to be resistances on the USB connectors that trigger different docks to come up.
Worst case scenario is that you create a shortcut on one of your homescreens that manually opens the car dock interface, which is extremely easy to do.
Speaker is ok. Plus I still have warranty and what not, thought id actually take some kind of risk considering all the hard work devs do.
So, FOR ME, rubbing the magnet over the back of the phone did not cause any noticeable harm yet. The magnet would center about an inch above the speakerphone speaker in the center.
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As far as I've read, magnets trigger no dock on the Atrix.
It's thought to be resistances on the USB connectors that trigger different docks to come up.
Worst case scenario is that you create a shortcut on one of your homescreens that manually opens the car dock interface, which is extremely easy to do.
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Hmmmm, saw that for the multimedia dock. I dont see where to find the car dock program. I looked in apps and dont see it. Is it accessed from somewhere else?
riotburn said:
Hmmmm, saw that for the multimedia dock. I dont see where to find the car dock program. I looked in apps and dont see it. Is it accessed from somewhere else?
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I don't have my phone on me at the moment (managed to forget it along with some other stuff as I left my house for class this morning).
I think its something like (this is with Launcher Pro):
Long press home
Create custom shortcut
Activities
Select Car Dock -> Cardock.main.cardockmainactivity
Name shortcut
If that doesn't work, I'll try it when I get home tonight.
SG Pillar said:
I don't have my phone on me at the moment (managed to forget it along with some other stuff as I left my house for class this morning).
I think its something like (this is with Launcher Pro):
Long press home
Create custom shortcut
Activities
Select Car Dock -> Cardock.main.cardockmainactivity
Name shortcut
If that doesn't work, I'll try it when I get home tonight.
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I tried it myself and it works great, thanks.
Yup that works great. Thanks! Now to figure out how it turns on when put in a dock.
Wait so for the mount to work, you would have to setup the charger? that blows, the magnet turning on the phone is better.
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Yup that works great. Thanks! Now to figure out how it turns on when put in a dock.
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well, you would press the shortcut
What's really weird to me is that the other day Cardock was showing up in my app list all the time, now it has disappeared and I have to add it the way you listed above. What caused it to disappear?
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well, you would press the shortcut
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I meant figure out how putting the phone in the car dock makes the phone turn on. I understood pushing the button would start dock mode
The old flip phones (StarTac) would typically use a magnet to sense if they were open/closed. AFAIK there's nothing in the new phones that understands magnetism at all, much less is harmed by it.
The microUSB standard provides for "sensing" by means of placing a fixed resistance across the new fifth wire. Devices see a set resistance, look it up internally, and determine what device has been attached. I suspect Moto is using this sensing to signal what dock a phone is plugged into--all part of a standard.
FWIW, cell phones going back at least to the original Palm Treos have done something similar, they look at the impedance of whatever is plugged into the ear/mic socket, and then configure themselves for earbuds, mono ear/mic, and other different devices all plugged into the same socket. This is mature and invisible technology by now.
Hi!
Got my Note 3 today and my air command function does´nt work.
Have tried to turn on/off the phone and the "aircommand" function in settings.
S-Pen is working cause i can see the pointer and the button on the s-pen works.
DeL09 said:
Hi!
Got my Note 3 today and my air command function does´nt work.
Have tried to turn on/off the phone and the "aircommand" function in settings.
S-Pen s working cause i can see the pointer and the button on the pens works.
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I'd return and exchange.
Are you doing it right? You need to hover the pen close the then screen, hold the spen and release it.
MohJee said:
Are you doing it right? You need to hover the pen close the then screen, hold the spen and release it.
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Yes om doing it right.
It's that non LTE non Snap800. Gotta get the good one when it comes out in a few days!
weirdingway said:
It's that non LTE non Snap800. Gotta get the good one when it comes out in a few days!
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The note two's s-pen had two screws under the button to adjust sensitivity so it's possible it could be a dodgy pen opposed to phone, worth a google if you don't want to exchange or they have no stock to exchange.
I'm having issue trying to use air gestures it doesn't work.
weirdingway said:
It's that non LTE non Snap800. Gotta get the good one when it comes out in a few days!
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I have with LTE.
sjm1982 said:
The note two's s-pen had two screws under the button to adjust sensitivity so it's possible it could be a dodgy pen opposed to phone, worth a google if you don't want to exchange or they have no stock to exchange.
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Problem Solved!
After a few tries i found the sensitivity-setting for "my" S-Pen. My pens sensitivity was to high, so i had to decrease it a little.
Have a instruction video of how to adjust the sens of a S-Pen.
The person in the video had the opposite problem so he turned the screw clockwise.
Youtube Search: [FIX] Note II S-pen hover problem (Samsung Galaxy Note 2 / N7100)
DeL09 said:
Problem Solved!
After a few tries i found the sensitivity-setting for "my" S-Pen. My pens sensitivity was to high, so i had to decrease it a little.
Have a instruction video of how to adjust the sens of a S-Pen.
The person in the video had the opposite problem so he turned the screw clockwise.
Youtube Search: [FIX] Note II S-pen hover problem (Samsung Galaxy Note 2 / N7100)
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it seems i have the same problem..but the solution didn't fix it.
any other solution.
update:
resolved !!
called up samsung customer care..they told me to change some settings..and presto!! it works like a charm
Please help me ... .. I lost one system file named ' keyguard' and now my home bottom not working and aircommand ... plllleeeeaaasse heeeeellllppppeee miiiii
max.android said:
it seems i have the same problem..but the solution didn't fix it.
any other solution.
update:
resolved !!
called up samsung customer care..they told me to change some settings..and presto!! it works like a charm
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And what are those changes?
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And what are those changes?
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i don't remember exactly...but i think i did turn it on in the settings...for some reason it was off be default...when i took it outta the box...it was on on my current note 4 by default..not sure why it was off on note 3...anyways you can call Samsung toll free customer care no. of your country an they will check on the phone if you have turned on the appropriate settings .