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I am eligible for an upgrade in just a couple of weeks. I love my S3 so naturally I would like the S5. However, like most of you on here I am heavily into modding my device. I just wanted to see what everyone thought of the phone without root. Has it hindered your usage much? Would you still recommend it without root?
Note: I'm not trying to discourage the community, I am sure this phone will see root eventually.
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davidstre said:
I am eligible for an upgrade in just a couple of weeks. I love my S3 so naturally I would like the S5. However, like most of you on here I am heavily into modding my device. I just wanted to see what everyone thought of the phone without root. Has it hindered your usage much? Would you still recommend it without root?
Note: I'm not trying to discourage the community, I am sure this phone will see root eventually.
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If you're highly use to root, I would not recommend. If you aren't, I would. There are so many online ads and formatting issues with Kit Kat while browsing. Force to zoom and text fit is not working in all browsers. Nor Flash. Each of these work, but not all in the same browser it seems. I've probably tried 10 but prefer Boat for its customization and navigation bar. And if a feature works in one browser, I find those browsers aren't as highly configurable, so you're having to sacrifice a few things to achieve another within a browser. Come to think of it, all my complaints are internet based. So perhaps its not as bad as it sounds. It really is an awesome phone, but my device has been like a desktop computer in my pocket for years. I feel severely limited at this point. Also the sd card thing is limiting. I don't have the right words to describe, but basically it makes you have to utilize its own file browser for the most important jobs. I can no longer sync music and videos to my sd card off the bat. I can only sync to internal, then move. I don't think that My Files is very user friendly compared to my default file browser, so its time consuming to do all this shuffling to my 64gb sd so I can view things as I need and want to utilize them. Lots of bloat, but most can be turned off or hidden thank goodness.
But as I said before, terrific phone otherwise. Battery is tops. Touchwiz is fine. Screen is excellent. Easy to hold and feels sturdy and not easy to drop. Fast charging. Satisfactory phone all around. The chrome part is cheap looking to me, but oh well. Less fingerprints than s3. Nice features and hiccup free. Just stifled where it counts to me. People who aren't use to having options, still have them where it matters. I've happily been able to sideload. It's just taking some getting use to.
Thanks for the complete reply. I cannot believe you can't sync music from the SD card, that is insane. Wow, I also forgot adobe flash doesn't come stock anymore. I usually flash a stock rom such as CleanROM to streamline and kill the bloat. Some key things I use root for are: long press volume key to skip music tracks, gesture controls, titanium, root Explorer, adblock, and for control over my CPU speed.
I'm considering the M8 for root but I am rough on my phones and know the glass screen will shatter. I love the form factor of the S5 more and water resistance is a major draw. I just wish I could do something to help with the root effort.
Also, Chrome browser gave you trouble? What do you use to play music? I use poweramp
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I don't have the S5 but I'll give my reasoning for not getting this device. In my option, Android is great because you are given control, but when a phone is locked down like this then it's no better than an iPhone. IPhones are meant to be locked down so that's expected but android phones are meant to be open and let users do what they want with it. I really dislike Samsung giving into Verizon and AT&T, therefore I refuse to support their decision to continue their policy of locking down their devices.
As for the htc one, I love it and this is coming from a hard core Apple user who's going to get into iOS development. Plus HTC offers a free screen replacement within the 6 months for your concern about the screen. What ever you decide, I hope that you become satisfied with your decision.
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Thanks for the complete reply. I cannot believe you can't sync music from the SD card, that is insane. Wow, I also forgot adobe flash doesn't come stock anymore. I usually flash a stock rom such as CleanROM to streamline and kill the bloat. Some key things I use root for are: long press volume key to skip music tracks, gesture controls, titanium, root Explorer, adblock, and for control over my CPU speed.
I'm considering the M8 for root but I am rough on my phones and know the glass screen will shatter. I love the form factor of the S5 more and water resistance is a major draw. I just wish I could do something to help with the root effort.
Also, Chrome browser gave you trouble? What do you use to play music? I use poweramp
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My apologies for the novel. First of all, I want to explain why I did not get the rootable HTC One. After I got the S5, i made a trip to Verizon to check out everything I'd be passing up. The closest contest was with the HTC One. I was impressed by the G2 but wanted to see if the G3 would have sd card expansion and be comparable size to S5. When I held the One and S5 side by side, the screen size was a significant size difference. Also, the M8 was taller. I'm a tiny person, so the S5 barely fits in my pocket as is. A larger device for me personally, is not realistic. I'm not going to start carrying a bag or bulky belt clip just for a phone. Secondly, I have many years of training in photography. While I understand a smartphone will never be an SLR, the photog in me wanted a device that I felt was still comparable in most ways.
Chrome is fine as a browser, but that's where the desktop in a pocket comes into play. It cannot run flash. Its not highly configurable. No navigation bar and useful shortcuts. No add ons. If I force to zoom a webpage with a large ad, it zooms the ad in as well thereby taking up valuable screen real estate.
I use Player Pro for music which is great. But I can no longer sync using Doubletwist. I drag and dropped my Music folder/Playlists via cable to make sure it went directly to my sd where I wanted it. My favorite video player no longer reads the right aspect ratio of my films. Many apps are playing catch up to Kit Kat and its limitations/changes. So I find myself using various video players occasionally. One has better sound than the other and so on and on.
Oh, and this is just a nitpick, but the Menu button has been replaced with app manager, the same feature you'd get when you long pressed home on S3. The button will still function as a proper Menu button if you long press it while inside an app though. So that's good. Otherwise you access Menu through the Navigation bar or via the 3 onscreen dots.
I miss Cleanrom so much! Both M8 and S5 seem to test well in drop tests. But its all relative. Everyone I knew with S3 had broken screens. I dropped mine so many times, including concrete with no kinda protection and it never cracked other than the plastic corners. Some of the built in gesture controls have been eliminated, so best to inquire about which ones you need. Several off the beaten path "features" are gone as the were deemed too gimmicky, even though people still appreciated them. Firefox has an Adblock add on and Flash works with it too. The force to zoom is not as magnified as Chrome. I can't recall seeing a working text to fit in any browser, but I may be mistaken. RIP Titanium and CPU speed for the time being but I think this thing is fast.
Oddly enough, I just got Root Explorer and my default file explorer to perform tasks it wouldn't do before. So maybe all is not lost there. I'll need to research this one further. I'm pretty sure it wasn't reading my playlists off of micro sd before...
On S3, I kept device on powersaving, but powersaving on this phone causes it to hiccup too much. I still get at least 15 hours or so with several of those, 3-5 hrs screen on. Speaking of which, GPS is different too. I do keep it on Powersaving as having it completely off inhibits certain location functions now. Haven't used long press to skip tracks in years, so unsure how to even set that up anymore (got it to work through Player Pro settings but only with screen on). You are right, the form factor is great. Would have preferred it a little shorter, but my understanding is they made it as small as they could.
Good luck with your decision. I paid full price for the first time ever and have an upgrade coming in November. If we don't have root by then, I may consider my options. Some things are getting easier by the day though. Just have to adjust your expectations a little.
I drop my S3 at least once every day and I have one small scratch on the screen after 2 years. As for the M8 replacing a cracked screen once , that's nice..until it cracks a second time. I run my S3 on powersaving mode as well, it is disappointing to hear the S5 hiccups on it, especially since CleanROM would probably fix that.
What I'm taking away from everything you've said is that it's a truly great phone but not quite great enough to make up for no root. Thanks for your input, I will probably hang on to my S3 until root or a new release.
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This is my first Android phone not unlocked and rooted, it is a little annoying but I am still extremely satisfied with it. It pisses me off that I pay $600 or so for a phone and I am limited to what I can do with it, but I am on the other hand grateful for the security! And hoping and praying that our devs won't let me down, and we have root soon!
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This is my first Android phone not unlocked and rooted, it is a little annoying but I am still extremely satisfied with it. It pisses me off that I pay $600 or so for a phone and I am limited to what I can do with it, but I am on the other hand grateful for the security! And hoping and praying that our devs won't let me down, and we have root soon!
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If you paid 600, why not get the Dev edition?
davidstre said:
I drop my S3 at least once every day and I have one small scratch on the screen after 2 years. As for the M8 replacing a cracked screen once , that's nice..until it cracks a second time. I run my S3 on powersaving mode as well, it is disappointing to hear the S5 hiccups on it, especially since CleanROM would probably fix that.
What I'm taking away from everything you've said is that it's a truly great phone but not quite great enough to make up for no root. Thanks for your input, I will probably hang on to my S3 until root or a new release.
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I have always had root on all my phones but with this of course it does not have it. But where that is a big con the phone is amazing in the power and battery use. The camera is so big of a pro for me I can give the devs time for root. Becouse for me I can wait for that. I used root mainly becouse the phones I had did not have the newest Android so for me this works for now.
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davidstre said:
I am eligible for an upgrade in just a couple of weeks. I love my S3 so naturally I would like the S5. However, like most of you on here I am heavily into modding my device. I just wanted to see what everyone thought of the phone without root. Has it hindered your usage much? Would you still recommend it without root?
Note: I'm not trying to discourage the community, I am sure this phone will see root eventually.
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Coming from the S3 myself running different ROMs including Alliance TW based ROM. I love the S5 and don't have many complaints about not having root. Although, I do seem to have issues copying files from internal sd0 to external SD card. Other than that I haven't run into anything that made me want to root it yet.
However, when root is available I WILL ROOT ASAP!
OdieHD said:
Coming from the S3 myself running different ROMs including Alliance TW based ROM. I love the S5 and don't have many complaints about not having root. Although, I do seem to have issues copying files from internal sd0 to external SD card. Other than that I haven't run into anything that made me want to root it yet.
However, when root is available I WILL ROOT ASAP!
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^^This. Although I have yet to experience the copying issues. I would like to remove the bloat and do some theming but overall the pure performance of the phone has allowed me to be content without root. With that said I will also root the minute someone finds an exploit.
OdieHD said:
Coming from the S3 myself running different ROMs including Alliance TW based ROM. I love the S5 and don't have many complaints about not having root. Although, I do seem to have issues copying files from internal sd0 to external SD card. Other than that I haven't run into anything that made me want to root it yet.
However, when root is available I WILL ROOT ASAP!
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Pretty much this, have fully customized SIII and when I can upgrade in July I will probably pick up the S5. Hopefully by then some stuff happens with root. I don't mind about custom kernels but root is important so I can remove bloat, ads and recoveries.
The choice is tough, buy a S5 with removable battery and storage but no root. Buy a HTC with root but no removable battery and storage. Coming from a Droid X2 on release and getting the S3 on release....The S3 has spoiled us.
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Buy a HTC with root but no removable battery and storage.
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The HTC One M8 does have removable storage. 128GB SD card compatible
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The HTC One M8 does have removable storage. 128GB SD card compatible
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Yeah but the battery is like 600 mh less uh and it is a problem to replace latter. Not water proof
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Also the camera Is way better. I have faith that we will get root maybe not unlocked bootloader but hay what Samsung had that in a long time. Also the Verizon Droid sorry HTC is the one and only besides maybe g2
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It has only been a month since this phone came out just have patience and wait at lest another month. I know the other devices had it right when it came out that was pure luck.
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IMO, 4.4 sux butt on all devices without root due to 'Goople' killing external writes. They truly suck butt. Using the lame security excuse is like if Windows killed external writing for apps. How would consumers like that?
I just got mine yesterday. I am coming from an S4 on TMO with unlimited LTE..... A) having to keep track of my data usage is going to be a challenge but at least I'll have coverage when I need it. I rooted my S4 and Note II before that the moment I got them home. I have not used a TW based ROM in two years. I thought not having PIE controls was going to be the death of it but the 'Toolbox' feature is pretty darn good. Now it's all the ads. I never realized how many ads there were!!! Holy Crap, I think the ads are going to eat all my data!!!! I have 13 days left before I can't take it back, but on Verizon, I don't see another option short of the S4.
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I just got mine yesterday. I am coming from an S4 on TMO with unlimited LTE..... A) having to keep track of my data usage is going to be a challenge but at least I'll have coverage when I need it. I rooted my S4 and Note II before that the moment I got them home. I have not used a TW based ROM in two years. I thought not having PIE controls was going to be the death of it but the 'Toolbox' feature is pretty darn good. Now it's all the ads. I never realized how many ads there were!!! Holy Crap, I think the ads are going to eat all my data!!!! I have 13 days left before I can't take it back, but on Verizon, I don't see another option short of the S4.
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Well u could try ad block plus I have it. It helps some. Or just get the ad free apps
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tydiamond11 said:
Well u could try ad block plus I have it. It helps some. Or just get the ad free apps
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I think @TigerDNA was talking about on Web Browsing? No? I have noticed that, but that's not a big thing for me. I ignore them.
This phone even unrooted kills the M8 with any custom ROM!!!
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Looking for people who have had it for a month+. Is it already lagging or getting any worse for you? What do you like or dislike about it? Currently using a 6p and I held an s7 edge and liked it a lot but I'm unsure if I want to purchase it.
Also if you switched from a 6p your opinion would be a huge deal breaker. I am rooted running pn and some xposed modules that I might potentially miss being on the s7 edge.
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I switched from a Note 3 last month (VZW S7E Gold, pre-order, received March 9). I thought I would miss the larger screen, the stylus, IR blaster, but I'm liking it more than I thought I would. It just feels so much better in the hand and in my pocket. Even the screen is nicer to look at. The pictures, no comparison, so much better.
One thing I've noticed is the LACK of lag. I haven't restarted the phone in almost 2 full weeks and there's absolutely no lag whatsoever. My Note 3 would need a reboot every couple of days for a refresh due to lagginess. Now I'm trying to see how long I can go without a reboot. Battery life has been great. I use it to tether at work a lot (get around the work filter) so I can't speak for the screen-on time as the tethering uses a lot of the battery, but I did get over 4 hours SOT at one time. I did have the SD notification issue, but it went away on its own, hoping it doesn't come back. The kids and I have also been using the Gear VR and we all love it, no overheating issues, no bugs, it just works.
Other than the VR stuff, I have no games, mainly use it for internet, tethering, navigation/Android Auto, Samsung Pay (love that!), XDA, etc.
So other than the worry about the SD notification I have no down-side. I do travel a bit, for work and with the family, so that will be another test as I'm out and about around the country to see how it holds up, but I'm confident it's a keeper. At first I just got it to hold me over until the Note 6, but now I don't feel the need for the bigger screen anymore.
Edited to add: Forgot to mention, I was rooted and yes, xposed was nice and there are some modules I could use back, but nothing that makes me want to go back. The pros outweigh the cons for me.
I've had it since March 9th (couple days before launch) and I absolutely love it. I do sometimes feel like there are a couple small cons, but by and large I love this phone. I came from a S6 previously and it's just different enough to have me obsessed with it.
The thing I'm really surprised about is how much I enjoy the gear s2. It works really well with the phone. I had full intentions of selling it. Now it's part of my arsenal. Answering a call in the car while using it is definitely clutch.
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physicsguymatt said:
I switched from a Note 3 last month (VZW S7E Gold, pre-order, received March 9). I thought I would miss the larger screen, the stylus, IR blaster, but I'm liking it more than I thought I would. It just feels so much better in the hand and in my pocket. Even the screen is nicer to look at. The pictures, no comparison, so much better.
One thing I've noticed is the LACK of lag. I haven't restarted the phone in almost 2 full weeks and there's absolutely no lag whatsoever. My Note 3 would need a reboot every couple of days for a refresh due to lagginess. Now I'm trying to see how long I can go without a reboot. Battery life has been great. I use it to tether at work a lot (get around the work filter) so I can't speak for the screen-on time as the tethering uses a lot of the battery, but I did get over 4 hours SOT at one time. I did have the SD notification issue, but it went away on its own, hoping it doesn't come back. The kids and I have also been using the Gear VR and we all love it, no overheating issues, no bugs, it just works.
Other than the VR stuff, I have no games, mainly use it for internet, tethering, navigation/Android Auto, Samsung Pay (love that!), XDA, etc.
So other than the worry about the SD notification I have no down-side. I do travel a bit, for work and with the family, so that will be another test as I'm out and about around the country to see how it holds up, but I'm confident it's a keeper. At first I just got it to hold me over until the Note 6, but now I don't feel the need for the bigger screen anymore.
Edited to add: Forgot to mention, I was rooted and yes, xposed was nice and there are some modules I could use back, but nothing that makes me want to go back. The pros outweigh the cons for me.
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What is this notification you're talking about? Yeah I definitely wish I would have gone for the vr and phone deal but I missed it. Yeah rooting can sometimes be a huge pain to deal with.
h3ck said:
I've had it since March 9th (couple days before launch) and I absolutely love it. I do sometimes feel like there are a couple small cons, but by and large I love this phone. I came from a S6 previously and it's just different enough to have me obsessed with it.
The thing I'm really surprised about is how much I enjoy the gear s2. It works really well with the phone. I had full intentions of selling it. Now it's part of my arsenal. Answering a call in the car while using it is definitely clutch.
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Oh I see, I don't know if I would purchase the gear s2 but those are some good points. How is your battery after a month?
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kench33 said:
What is this notification you're talking about? Yeah I definitely wish I would have gone for the vr and phone deal but I missed it. Yeah rooting can sometimes be a huge pain to deal with.
Oh I see, I don't know if I would purchase the gear s2 but those are some good points. How is your battery after a month?
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I got the gear s2 free (totally wouldn't have bought it either hahaha). The battery is superb. I'm a power user, forums, social media, websites, reddit, camera, camera, camera, etc. Lol
I usually take off the charger at 4 to 5am and only rarely make it to about 11pm with less than 10% know that's a YouTube, camera heavy day). Battery life is night and day to the S6.
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kench33 said:
What is this notification you're talking about?
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There quite a number of posts about it. It's a persistent notification of the SD card being ready for photos and videos. It's apparently a regular mounting/dismounting issue, but no word/proof if it's hardware or software related. Very sporadic and hard to pinpoint the cause or solution. Mine just went away. Seems to be more prevalent on first batch models. Not much lately on it.
kench33 said:
Looking for people who have had it for a month+. Is it already lagging or getting any worse for you? What do you like or dislike about it? Currently using a 6p and I held an s7 edge and liked it a lot but I'm unsure if I want to purchase it.
Also if you switched from a 6p your opinion would be a huge deal breaker. I am rooted running pn and some xposed modules that I might potentially miss being on the s7 edge.
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Came from a 6p running PN and xposed as well and I have had the SGS7e for about a month. Being perfectly honest I haven't picked up my Nexus since then. I originally switched from the SGS6e to the 6p strictly because of the lack of development and rooting, swore I would never go back to Sammy, I still kind of hate them for allowing the carriers to bully them into locking down these phones but it is what is. Now after being able to do what I want for a while on my Nexus 6p, and loving it, I ran into the situation where I had to switch from AT&T to Verizon due to signal issues (I work in the hospital). I was able to get 2 SGS7e's on a BOGO deal so figured I'd give it a shot, and again haven't really looked back. Yes the TouchWiz interface still socks a bit, the lag is definitely a lot less now, hardly ever honestly, but still not like the 6p on PN... you just can't make that combo lag, always crisp and smooth! There are more adjustments/settings you can make to TouchWiz now so I don't totally miss exposed, but again everyone uses different modules so my experience may be different then yours, I mainly used exposed for visual tweaks etc... This phone will probably never see root so that is something I have to live with, but I will probably sell my 6p on Swappa and save the money towards the next nexus in case I get sick of no root. But for now the SGS7E works for me, I don't have a ton of time to root and tweak and figure out issues right now, the size is just right (the 6p is a tad bigger than I prefer), the interface is improved on the edge, more little niches to tinker with, the Camera is definitely better, and overall I just like using it better now. But again the 6p is no slouch, crisper/quicker/cleaner running for the most part and all the roms and tweaks you can ask for lol. Decisions, decisions lol its a great dilemma to be stuck in!!
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Came from a rooted S6, but I really only rooted it (and stopped updates) to manage the battery life and keep tethering. After having the S7 Edge for slightly less than a month, I can say I almost don't miss root. No, actually, I can't see a reason I *need* root on this phone. I'd do it if I could, but it's just not needed. I don't even run any of the disabling apps. I've manually turned off a few Verizon bloat apps though.
Lag is non-existent, battery life has settled nicely. I can get an entire day and then some, with about 4 hours screen time. I have the always on screen off, as I don't need a clock and that's pretty much all it's good for right now. I have Google Now voice off as well. Other than that I'm running all the usual battery hogs. I do have aggressive doze set in Greenify. I forgot to put the phone on the charger last night after a full day of use, including some photos, Facebook, some light gaming and a few phone calls. This morning I woke up and it still had 41%. I'm pretty happy.
This is also the lightest, most useful Touchwiz Samsung has ever done. I feel like it kind of improves stock Android, tbh.
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Came from a 6p running PN and xposed as well and I have had the SGS7e for about a month. Being perfectly honest I haven't picked up my Nexus since then. I originally switched from the SGS6e to the 6p strictly because of the lack of development and rooting, swore I would never go back to Sammy, I still kind of hate them for allowing the carriers to bully them into locking down these phones but it is what is. Now after being able to do what I want for a while on my Nexus 6p, and loving it, I ran into the situation where I had to switch from AT&T to Verizon due to signal issues (I work in the hospital). I was able to get 2 SGS7e's on a BOGO deal so figured I'd give it a shot, and again haven't really looked back. Yes the TouchWiz interface still socks a bit, the lag is definitely a lot less now, hardly ever honestly, but still not like the 6p on PN... you just can't make that combo lag, always crisp and smooth! There are more adjustments/settings you can make to TouchWiz now so I don't totally miss exposed, but again everyone uses different modules so my experience may be different then yours, I mainly used exposed for visual tweaks etc... This phone will probably never see root so that is something I have to live with, but I will probably sell my 6p on Swappa and save the money towards the next nexus in case I get sick of no root. But for now the SGS7E works for me, I don't have a ton of time to root and tweak and figure out issues right now, the size is just right (the 6p is a tad bigger than I prefer), the interface is improved on the edge, more little niches to tinker with, the Camera is definitely better, and overall I just like using it better now. But again the 6p is no slouch, crisper/quicker/cleaner running for the most part and all the roms and tweaks you can ask for lol. Decisions, decisions lol its a great dilemma to be stuck in!!
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Yeah definitely I really hard decision. I may try to find one on swappa if the price is right.
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Came from a rooted S6, but I really only rooted it (and stopped updates) to manage the battery life and keep tethering. After having the S7 Edge for slightly less than a month, I can say I almost don't miss root. No, actually, I can't see a reason I *need* root on this phone. I'd do it if I could, but it's just not needed. I don't even run any of the disabling apps. I've manually turned off a few Verizon bloat apps though.
Lag is non-existent, battery life has settled nicely. I can get an entire day and then some, with about 4 hours screen time. I have the always on screen off, as I don't need a clock and that's pretty much all it's good for right now. I have Google Now voice off as well. Other than that I'm running all the usual battery hogs. I do have aggressive doze set in Greenify. I forgot to put the phone on the charger last night after a full day of use, including some photos, Facebook, some light gaming and a few phone calls. This morning I woke up and it still had 41%. I'm pretty happy.
This is also the lightest, most useful Touchwiz Samsung has ever done. I feel like it kind of improves stock Android, tbh.
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Can you still tether? I have unlimited and that's the main reason I like to root.
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kench33 said:
Yeah definitely I really hard decision. I may try to find one on swappa if the price is right.
Can you still tether? I have unlimited and that's the main reason I like to root.
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I just downloaded the free FoxFi, went through the install and tethered my laptop to respond. So yes, it works!
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I just downloaded the free FoxFi, went through the install and tethered my laptop to respond. So yes, it works!
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You have unlimited data too or a gb plan?
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Came from a rooted S6, but I really only rooted it (and stopped updates) to manage the battery life and keep tethering. After having the S7 Edge for slightly less than a month, I can say I almost don't miss root. No, actually, I can't see a reason I *need* root on this phone. I'd do it if I could, but it's just not needed. I don't even run any of the disabling apps. I've manually turned off a few Verizon bloat apps though.
Lag is non-existent, battery life has settled nicely. I can get an entire day and then some, with about 4 hours screen time. I have the always on screen off, as I don't need a clock and that's pretty much all it's good for right now. I have Google Now voice off as well. Other than that I'm running all the usual battery hogs. I do have aggressive doze set in Greenify. I forgot to put the phone on the charger last night after a full day of use, including some photos, Facebook, some light gaming and a few phone calls. This morning I woke up and it still had 41%. I'm pretty happy.
This is also the lightest, most useful Touchwiz Samsung has ever done. I feel like it kind of improves stock Android, tbh.
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Your last sentence is something that strikes a tone with me. I think some android fans find it popular to spew touch wiz hate. I get it, look at my signature, I've been with Android since Nexus and stock were one in the same.
Vanilla Android is fast and clean and beautiful. Buy by no means is it perfect or the best user experience.
TouchWiz is not perfect, it's not better or worse. It just has some enhancements that I think people always neglect. Samsung was supporting USB OTG and had split screen multitasking before anyone. Now it will finally be in Android. That's just one example. My point is this phone gets to that final level that a skinned phone can match or really surpass a Nexus in functionality, despite the popular concensus. It's a stellar phone, not just hype.
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You have unlimited data too or a gb plan?
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I gave up unlimited when I realized that we just weren't using more than 2-3GB a month, like, ever. I was paying a lot for something I just never used. I took the money and upgraded my home internet instead, where I use more data than freaking Google
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Your last sentence is something that strikes a tone with me. I think some android fans find it popular to spew touch wiz hate. I get it, look at my signature, I've been with Android since Nexus and stock were one in the same.
Vanilla Android is fast and clean and beautiful. Buy by no means is it perfect or the best user experience.
TouchWiz is not perfect, it's not better or worse. It just has some enhancements that I think people always neglect. Samsung was supporting USB OTG and had split screen multitasking before anyone. Now it will finally be in Android. That's just one example. My point is this phone gets to that final level that a skinned phone can match or really surpass a Nexus in functionality, despite the popular concensus. It's a stellar phone, not just hype.
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Totally agree. It's the very first time since the OG Droid that I am 99.975% okay without root. I'd love to be able to write to the hosts file and not use one of the VPN-style ad blockers. That is the one thing I miss now. And I'm not even that bothered by the ads.
Really love this phone.
I have this edge and g5. G5 way smoother s7edge lags
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I gave up unlimited when I realized that we just weren't using more than 2-3GB a month, like, ever. I was paying a lot for something I just never used. I took the money and upgraded my home internet instead, where I use more data than freaking Google
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You could've sold the UDP for 700
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Rootuser3.0 said:
You could've sold the UDP for 700
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Literally didn't know what you meant until I looked it up. Wow. Did I miss out on a chunk of cash. Wish I'd have read about this before I did it.
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Literally didn't know what you meant until I looked it up. Wow. Did I miss out on a chunk of cash. Wish I'd have read about this before I did it.
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Yes it's called an AOL (assumption of liability) someone pays you whatever amount you want to sell the plan for and you both call in and they assume the contract and or line. They must pass the credit check of course and Verizon has their own AOL department
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Phone sucks
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Ironically enough, I'm in the same exact boat. Work IS in a hospital, so I can't do AT&T around here. I'm just really missing root for true AD-blocking and ViperFX.
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Phone sucks
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It is? Like a vacuum? Must be nice, mine only phones.
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Wondering if anyone else has done this? Traded their tmobile variant of international. I mean I can't complain I got this phone for free but still! Peaked over at the threads over at our sister phone and man it is packed with roms and kernels etc. Just tired of the sluggish phone. Even on stock it is sluggish.
Go xiaomi
Same here. Done with Sammy after the note 7 and now this s7 edge..
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Go xiaomi
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Don't know anything about them or their phones.
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Same here. Done with Sammy after the note 7 and now this s7 edge..
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This phone is just bad man. Horrendous ram optimization even on Echo. Hot enough to cook and egg. I literally can not play Gear VR without having a fan pointing at me. I truly miss my Note 7and I regret trading in the Note 5 for a S7 Edge.
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I have had no issues with my S7e. I miss my Note 7 but there are no better phones on the market. I've tested tons, always come back to the S7e. The screen is so nice the camera is great and it's water proof.
no real complaints here with mine. I also came from the note 7 as well. The n7 definitely had a more premium feel but this phone isn't all that bad. I haven't rooted mine yet because I haven't seen any roms worth jumping to. so far package disabler pro tweaks is all I have done. I still have my note 7 and I'm not turning in until they release a deadline for a full refund but I hardly use it because the battery life is for crap compared to the s7e.
Good lord, it's just a phone. It does what it is intended to do, and does it very well. Don't like it, plenty of competition out there. Not sure what you hope to accomplish by making yet another thread complaining about lack of options. Real root/unlock is never coming to this device. Live with it or dump it for one of the tens of other good devices out there, and move on with your life.
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Wondering if anyone else has done this? Traded their tmobile variant of international. I mean I can't complain I got this phone for free but still! Peaked over at the threads over at our sister phone and man it is packed with roms and kernels etc. Just tired of the sluggish phone. Even on stock it is sluggish.
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Try flashing the G935U firmware if you haven't. It seems to run a lot better for most people since it's stripped of all the carrier bloatware. You can then manually flash the modem file from the latest T-mobile firmware to have 256qam enabled.
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Good lord, it's just a phone. It does what it is intended to do, and does it very well. Don't like it, plenty of competition out there. Not sure what you hope to accomplish by making yet another thread complaining about lack of options. Real root/unlock is never coming to this device. Live with it or dump it for one of the tens of other good devices out there, and move on with your life.
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It does NOT do what it is intended. Unfortunately I was sucker into this downgrade and I can not get another phone. Don't put words into my mouth, I never said there was a lack of options. I am merely posting this thread to anyone looking for the downsides of owning this phone. On stock, its laggy and hot. On a custom rom, it is even more laggy, hot, and if you plan on playing games on the Gear VR, expect about 10 minutes of play before it over heats. I'll take a video of it so you guys can see. There is also severe graphical tearing in Gear VR, while not constant, they happen more often than they should -_-
I'll take a video of it so you guys can see. I h ave a trusty fan next to my computer even ever it gets too hot and I need to cool it.
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Try flashing the G935U firmware if you haven't. It seems to run a lot better for most people since it's stripped of all the carrier bloatware. You can then manually flash the modem file from the latest T-mobile firmware to have 256qam enabled.
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If I am on Echoe, isn't that the same thing? Or would that firmware with root work better than Echoe?
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no real complaints here with mine. I also came from the note 7 as well. The n7 definitely had a more premium feel but this phone isn't all that bad. I haven't rooted mine yet because I haven't seen any roms worth jumping to. so far package disabler pro tweaks is all I have done. I still have my note 7 and I'm not turning in until they release a deadline for a full refund but I hardly use it because the battery life is for crap compared to the s7e.
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I hear you, maybe I should go back to stock then.
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I have had no issues with my S7e. I miss my Note 7 but there are no better phones on the market. I've tested tons, always come back to the S7e. The screen is so nice the camera is great and it's water proof.
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Part of the reason why I went with the S7 E. I got pampered by my Note 5 and it's discontinuation really threw me off.
I got another S7 E on top of my closet sealed that Tmobile gave me. Not sure if to turn it around and sell it or wait to see if Sammy comes out with any special promotion on a trade in.
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If I am on Echoe, isn't that the same thing? Or would that firmware with root work better than Echoe?
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I'm not rooted. My understanding is that the only root solutions on the Snapdragon edition require you to use an engineering kernel with poor performance. I'm happy just using Adaway with the stock Samsung browser and I can just live without the rest of the root 'benefits'.
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It does NOT do what it is intended. Unfortunately I was sucker into this downgrade and I can not get another phone. Don't put words into my mouth, I never said there was a lack of options. I am merely posting this thread to anyone looking for the downsides of owning this phone. On stock, its laggy and hot. On a custom rom, it is even more laggy, hot, and if you plan on playing games on the Gear VR, expect about 10 minutes of play before it over heats. I'll take a video of it so you guys can see. There is also severe graphical tearing in Gear VR, while not constant, they happen more often than they should -_-
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Here's the thing nobody is looking for the downsides of owning this phone. You're looking for people to confirm your opinion and nothing more. Let me be clear, the problems you are having with your phone as you've described are limited to your device. Perhaps you got a bum device. It happens, I did replace mine under warranty for a hardware fault in the AOD and edge clock displays. Perhaps you loaded up your phone with so much garbage that it simply chokes on everything you have running in the background. I don't know and will not claim to know. The root lag and heat are well known issues due to the engineering bootloader. This is explained in the rooting threads here. You went ahead and rooted it knowing this, don't be surprised that you are experiencing issues that are clearly stated will happen if you root.
I have the gear VR as well and the few times I played games on it I had no heat issues or screen tearing issues. None. My phone is stock and exhibits no noticeable lag or heat. I can get 4-5 hours of screen time easily with room to spare. Now, I rarely play games, screen time is work related, but I have never experienced excessive heat when playing high-end games either. Of course I don't use facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat, and whatever other garbage you kids do nowadays.
So my point stands. Don't like this device, get another one. Get one that is easily rootable, get one with stock Android, or whatever you want. But understand that the problems you are having are either the fault of your specific device or your fault. If it's the former, a new device will help. If it's the latter, you should address the underlying issues before screaming about how bad this phone is. But there is no systematic problem in the GS7 line.
Whoa so much tension here. I've had 2 S7 edges and both exhibited some lag here or there. The biggest problem I had with the phone is the inconsistency in its performance and smoothness. With that said, I'm hoping Samsung will do a better job with optimizing Nougat.
this is insane. OP is throwing a fit about his phone being hot and laggy when he has it ROOTED. jesus christ man. this phone isn't laggy or hot, you're just using the wrong kernel for your phone. eng kernel isnt made for performance. it's made for engineering. unroot your phone and/or flash U firmware and stop being an ignorant crybaby.
ON QC S7/E, ROOTING CAUSES LAG AND OVERHEAT ISSUES. THERE IS NO FIX.
this phone isn't meant to be rooted. which means it's perfect for people like OP. because you obviously can't follow instructions or advice from all the root guides and threads on here. you just ignore all warnings and then make a thread to whine about your malfunctioning phone when it starts doing the things you were warned it would do.
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Here's the thing nobody is looking for the downsides of owning this phone. You're looking for people to confirm your opinion and nothing more. Let me be clear, the problems you are having with your phone as you've described are limited to your device. Perhaps you got a bum device. It happens, I did replace mine under warranty for a hardware fault in the AOD and edge clock displays. Perhaps you loaded up your phone with so much garbage that it simply chokes on everything you have running in the background. I don't know and will not claim to know. The root lag and heat are well known issues due to the engineering bootloader. This is explained in the rooting threads here. You went ahead and rooted it knowing this, don't be surprised that you are experiencing issues that are clearly stated will happen if you root.
I have the gear VR as well and the few times I played games on it I had no heat issues or screen tearing issues. None. My phone is stock and exhibits no noticeable lag or heat. I can get 4-5 hours of screen time easily with room to spare. Now, I rarely play games, screen time is work related, but I have never experienced excessive heat when playing high-end games either. Of course I don't use facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat, and whatever other garbage you kids do nowadays.
So my point stands. Don't like this device, get another one. Get one that is easily rootable, get one with stock Android, or whatever you want. But understand that the problems you are having are either the fault of your specific device or your fault. If it's the former, a new device will help. If it's the latter, you should address the underlying issues before screaming about how bad this phone is. But there is no systematic problem in the GS7 line.
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You must be a sad little man or kid) to try and belittle someone else's opinion that does not agree with you loving the device. Sadly I was looking at the downside of owning this phone but I didn;t look deep enough. Why would you Pros and not the Cons. You buy a brand new Ford and it breaks on your before you even reached 50k mile but had you looked into the cons of that make a model you would know NOT TO FREAKING BUY IT. I wish I had someone post a negative review of the phone itself so I could of avoided buying it, twice.
As for your solution, as if giving up said phone for way less than what one bought it for it is not much of an option unless I want to take a loss. As far as you not having heat issues, I always have it and have seen others have similar issues. So you rarely play games yet you can sit there and tell me with absolute certainty that the phone does not over heat... right very reassuring. Remind yourself never to review phones. I do use facebook, but not that app, just the web browser. And I assure you, I am no kid, your attempt to insult falls very.... very short, much like your intelligence. As far as the phone not having a systematic problem, I can go on a dozens threads here on this site alone and even review sites and even youtube videos that say the very exact opposite of you. And again, this belittling thing your doing, either you have WAY too much time on your hands and are constantly looking for an opportunity to try and appear higher than others by belittling or you... are just a sad man or kid. Case in point, don't like my thread, don't comment. And I would advise against trying to belittle anyone else, whether done here or in your actual life.
My opinion, don't like my thread, don't post in it.
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this is insane. OP is throwing a fit about his phone being hot and laggy when he has it ROOTED. jesus christ man. this phone isn't laggy or hot, you're just using the wrong kernel for your phone. eng kernel isnt made for performance. it's made for engineering. unroot your phone and/or flash U firmware and stop being an ignorant crybaby.
ON QC S7/E, ROOTING CAUSES LAG AND OVERHEAT ISSUES. THERE IS NO FIX.
this phone isn't meant to be rooted. which means it's perfect for people like OP. because you obviously can't follow instructions or advice from all the root guides and threads on here. you just ignore all warnings and then make a thread to whine about your malfunctioning phone when it starts doing the things you were warned it would do.
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You miss the part that I had this issue even when I had it stocked. Should I direct you to the many threads, reviews sites, and youtube, not to mention the other posters who said the same thing? Either contribute or don't post in my thread as I mentioned before. You may fine nothing wrong with this device, rooted or not, I have had this phone constantly overheat, while stocked, and while rooted. Get over it your shock of me throwing a fit on a 800 dollar phone.
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Whoa so much tension here. I've had 2 S7 edges and both exhibited some lag here or there. The biggest problem I had with the phone is the inconsistency in its performance and smoothness. With that said, I'm hoping Samsung will do a better job with optimizing Nougat.
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Agreed
I got another S7 E on top of my closet sealed that Tmobile gave me. Not sure if to turn it around and sell it or wait to see if Sammy comes out with any special promotion on a trade in.[/QUOTE]
Trade it in on what? Black Friday is on the horizon so what ever deals there are will be made then.
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You must be a sad little man or kid) to try and belittle someone else's opinion that does not agree with you loving the device. Sadly I was looking at the downside of owning this phone but I didn;t look deep enough. Why would you Pros and not the Cons. You buy a brand new Ford and it breaks on your before you even reached 50k mile but had you looked into the cons of that make a model you would know NOT TO FREAKING BUY IT. I wish I had someone post a negative review of the phone itself so I could of avoided buying it, twice.
As for your solution, as if giving up said phone for way less than what one bought it for it is not much of an option unless I want to take a loss. As far as you not having heat issues, I always have it and have seen others have similar issues. So you rarely play games yet you can sit there and tell me with absolute certainty that the phone does not over heat... right very reassuring. Remind yourself never to review phones. I do use facebook, but not that app, just the web browser. And I assure you, I am no kid, your attempt to insult falls very.... very short, much like your intelligence. As far as the phone not having a systematic problem, I can go on a dozens threads here on this site alone and even review sites and even youtube videos that say the very exact opposite of you. And again, this belittling thing your doing, either you have WAY too much time on your hands and are constantly looking for an opportunity to try and appear higher than others by belittling or you... are just a sad man or kid. Case in point, don't like my thread, don't comment. And I would advise against trying to belittle anyone else, whether done here or in your actual life.
My opinion, don't like my thread, don't post in it.
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There was no belittling on my part in anything I said, unlike your post. If you found it, you must have looked for it very hard and are overly sensitive when someone disagrees with you. Like I said, I have no issues with heat, battery, gear vr, or anything else. Whether I play games or otherwise. I suggested that your phone is bad or something you're doing is causing it. Sorry you don't like my suggestions, but it is what it is. Like is said, move on to a different device and hopefully you'll be happy with your choice. I know at least 3 other people with the gs7e that have none of your issues, as well as plenty of Internet reviews that state the same.
Lag fixed on the Nougat beta. Also has a few features I used to root for that are baked in now. Only thing missing is V4A and system wide add blocking.
I couldn't justify almost a $1000 tied up into a phone anymore and I seen Essential seems to be cleaning up its mess. Found one locally for $240 and picked it up. So far I cant get over how small the device is. Looks and feels amazing. Im currently loading Oreo beta. Hopefully it leaves me with a good experience.
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I couldn't justify almost a $1000 tied up into a phone anymore and I seen Essential seems to be cleaning up its mess. Found one locally for $240 and picked it up. So far I cant get over how small the device is. Looks and feels amazing. Im currently loading Oreo beta. Hopefully it leaves me with a good experience.
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240...for a phone with 128 gb of storage was a steal in my opinion. These phones have suffered from devaluation with the Sprint offering. This is a heckuva device .
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240...for a phone with 128 gb of storage was a steal in my opinion. These phones have suffered from devaluation with the Sprint offering. This is a heckuva device .
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Yea so far it honestly seems on par with my Pixel. Are you rooted or anything?
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Yea so far its honestly seems on par with my Pixel. Are you rooted or anything?
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I used to root, but last time I did it causes problems with DirecTV and my banking apps. So no [emoji848]
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I used to root, but last time I did it causes problems with DirecTV and my banking apps. So no [emoji848]
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Root with Magisk hides all traces.
Even Android Pay works.
I don't have any trouble with any app with an unlocked BL and rooted with Magisk.
Whoa $240 that's a steal. I came from an HTC u11 and I'm loving how this screen is larger but the phone is smaller.
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Root with Magisk hides all traces.
Even Android Pay works.
I don't have any trouble with any app with an unlocked BL and rooted with Magisk.
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I'll give it a try then. No other security risks these days? The only thing I remember enjoying about rooting was Xposed framework for multiwindow.
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I'll give it a try then. No other security risks these days? The only thing I remember enjoying about rooting was Xposed framework for multiwindow.
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Well there are risks if you grant everything root permission
Other than being careful, no issues.
Yeah I've rooted with Magisk with 3 different phone now and never had safety net issues! Magisk has been a lifesaver to the rooting community.
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Yeah I've rooted with Magisk with 3 different phone now and never had safety net issues! Magisk has been a lifesaver to the rooting community.
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Couldn't agree more love it!
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Yeah I've rooted with Magisk with 3 different phone now and never had safety net issues! Magisk has been a lifesaver to the rooting community.
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Exactly +1
which carrier do you use? How is its reception?
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240...for a phone with 128 gb of storage was a steal in my opinion. These phones have suffered from devaluation with the Sprint offering. This is a heckuva device .
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Just got mine for $200 ??
I picked up a mint white one last night for $300 CAD. I don't love my S8 and am hoping the smaller Pixel 3 gets the small bezel treatment. Thought I'd sell my S8 now while it has the most value.
Got the PH-1 last night, finished setting it up this morning and ordered a case, and a QI wireless charger sticker thing off Amazon to try. Gonna really miss wireless charging so I hope the adapter works. If not, I'll return it. Not sure if I'll keep the PH-1 or not yet, as I also will really miss the always on display. That was something I also disliked on my old Pixel XL.
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I picked up a mint white one last night for $300 CAD. I don't love my S8 and am hoping the smaller Pixel 3 gets the small bezel treatment. Thought I'd sell my S8 now while it has the most value.
Got the PH-1 last night, finished setting it up this morning and ordered a case, and a QI wireless charger sticker thing off Amazon to try. Gonna really miss wireless charging so I hope the adapter works. If not, I'll return it. Not sure if I'll keep the PH-1 or not yet, as I also will really miss the always on display. That was something I also disliked on my old Pixel XL.
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Mind sharing that link to the qi charger sticker?
I've been all over the S9 plus, and finally got to play around with one. All I can say is, other than the screen being all pretty, it's way too locked down and lacking on features where it counts. Essential + Resurrection Remix wipes the floors with Samsung's half baked TouchWiz features. That phone felt a bit slower that the PH-1. Given the specs, on paper you'd think it would outperform the Essential, but it just doesn't, I set both phones' animation scales to 0.5x, and S9+ just didn't feel as snappy, guess TouchWiz is still a heavy UI. I'm not knocking Samsung devices, but they can at least stop pretending to be an apple wannabe and reenable the OEM unlock switch.
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Mind sharing that link to the qi charger sticker?
I've been all over the S9 plus, and finally got to play around with one. All I can say is, other than the screen being all pretty, it's way too locked down and lacking on features where it counts. Essential + Resurrection Remix wipes the floors with Samsung's half baked TouchWiz features. That phone felt a bit slower that the PH-1. Given the specs, on paper you'd think it would outperform the Essential, but it just doesn't, I set both phones' animation scales to 0.5x, and S9+ just didn't feel as snappy, guess TouchWiz is still a heavy UI. I'm not knocking Samsung devices, but they can at least stop pretending to be an apple wannabe and reenable the OEM unlock switch.
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My s8 definitely felt just as fast, touchwiz is much lighter these days, but the lack of any roms or bootloader unlocking killed it for me. Overall I loved the phone.
The major reason for the bootloader lock is the whole knox thing, they are doing well in the corporate sector these days.
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My s8 definitely felt just as fast, touchwiz is much lighter these days, but the lack of any roms or bootloader unlocking killed it for me. Overall I loved the phone.
The major reason for the bootloader lock is the whole knox thing, they are doing well in the corporate sector these days.
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I'm not familiar with how Knox works, never owned a Samsung phone, but can't you just flash through fastboot and custom recovery rather than Odin? Or are Samsung devices different from other Android devices?
In any case, I suspect the reason for the s9+feeling a bit slower than essential, may be the screen size. I remember Nexus 6 feeling a bit slower in animations department over Nexus 5 despite Nexus 5 being the less powerful of the two.
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I'm not familiar with how Knox works, never owned a Samsung phone, but can't you just flash through fastboot and custom recovery rather than Odin? Or are Samsung devices different from other Android devices?
In any case, I suspect the reason for the s9+feeling a bit slower than essential, may be the screen size. I remember Nexus 6 feeling a bit slower in animations department over Nexus 5 despite Nexus 5 being the less powerful of the two.
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They don't have any fastboot, it is its own strange beast. You need to use odin. They managed to get root on it, but there wasn't a whole lot otherwise. The eynos versions you can fully unlock, but in US and Canada all we have are the qualcomm ones.
For me the s8 was super fast, and the camera is seriously magnificent, but I get so bored without root (you need to do some serious stuff to gain it, risk bricking it and your battery life from that point onward will only ever charge to 80%, even if you flash back to stock) and knew that after the oreo update I'd never see another update again.
I'm not sure what made me decide to trade, I got an offer for an essential phone plus cash and jumped on it. At first I regretted it, but once I flashed RR I began to love the phone.
I'm on P beta now, and knowing that I'll be up to date for a long time makes it all worthwhile. I can deal with this phones minor "quirks". I miss a couple things about the s8, but I'd still completely happy with this phone.
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They don't have any fastboot, it is its own strange beast. You need to use odin. They managed to get root on it, but there wasn't a whole lot otherwise. The eynos versions you can fully unlock, but in US and Canada all we have are the qualcomm ones.
For me the s8 was super fast, and the camera is seriously magnificent, but I get so bored without root (you need to do some serious stuff to gain it, risk bricking it and your battery life from that point onward will only ever charge to 80%, even if you flash back to stock) and knew that after the oreo update I'd never see another update again.
I'm not sure what made me decide to trade, I got an offer for an essential phone plus cash and jumped on it. At first I regretted it, but once I flashed RR I began to love the phone.
I'm on P beta now, and knowing that I'll be up to date for a long time makes it all worthwhile. I can deal with this phones minor "quirks". I miss a couple things about the s8, but I'd still completely happy with this phone.
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Indeed it is, never knew they didn't include a bootloader.
I actually dismissed the essential phone when it first came out as a phone with a gimmick to see how much bezel they can get rid off, but once I tried it out in person, I couldn't put it down. The thing really grew on me after handling it for a few minutes.
How's P beta? Is it stock essential firmware?
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Indeed it is, never knew they didn't include a bootloader.
I actually dismissed the essential phone when it first came out as a phone with a gimmick to see how much bezel they can get rid off, but once I tried it out in person, I couldn't put it down. The thing really grew on me after handling it for a few minutes.
How's P beta? Is it stock essential firmware?
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I did the same thing, until I really played around with one in store. The design is stunning, it isn't often I'd say a phone is sexy hahaha
Yep the official essential P beta. It has been awesome honestly. Very smooth, and I have yet to encounter any serious bugs (the odd minor bug/quirk, but nothing that bothers me in any way). The gestures are strange for me having been on android since 2008, but I'm slowly getting the hang of things/getting used to it.
For a dev beta, it is very solid.
Looking to buy my wife a new phone cause her iPhone 6S battery is dieing out. I plan to get her the S8 exynos and flash a pixel room. Thought about getting her an S9 buy the exynos version has problems with poor battery. Plus the S8 is on sale for $375.
Her use is mainly messaging, social media apps and youtube. How's the speed/fluidity of the phone?
I ask cause I have a pixel 2xl and it's working flawlessly. Smoother than the OnePlus 6 I had before it. The SD835 isn't far behind the SD845 like one would think. I also heard good things about the exynos 8895.
I really don't want to get her a phone with issues cause I'll end up having to buy her another one. Would appreciate detailed opinions/reviews. Thanks.
Will008 said:
Looking to buy my wife a new phone cause her iPhone 6S battery is dieing out. I plan to get her the S8 exynos and flash a pixel room. Thought about getting her an S9 buy the exynos version has problems with poor battery. Plus the S8 is on sale for $375.
Her use is mainly messaging, social media apps and youtube. How's the speed/fluidity of the phone?
I ask cause I have a pixel 2xl and it's working flawlessly. Smoother than the OnePlus 6 I had before it. The SD835 isn't far behind the SD845 like one would think. I also heard good things about the exynos 8895.
I really don't want to get her a phone with issues cause I'll end up having to buy her another one. Would appreciate detailed opinions/reviews. Thanks.
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I got the phone about a month ago and here are my thoughts:
-Not as fast as a Pixel 2 or a Oneplus 6 but still good enough. You wouldn't call this a slow phone. Apps won't launch as quickly as a phone with stock android, but it's not a big deal imo. Reduce the animation time from developer settings and you'll be good to go.
-Camera is fantastic. Sometimes even better than the S9.
-Battery life is good after some tweaking. I get about 6 hours of SOT and a full day of mixed use.
-Samsung Experience UI is so much better than the old TouchWiz. I'd suggest that you try it before switching to a custom rom. Features like Good Lock can help you customize your phone like never before. It's not the gimmicky bloat of the past.
-The curved screen is a bloody pain for phone cases and tempered glasses. But I still like it. Makes the grip of the phone much better for me. I'd suggest getting a full screen glue tempered glass from AliExpress or a Whitestone Dome from Amazon (this may sound like a trivial point but trust me, it's very important).
I think the S8 is a great value buy over the S9. I got it for about $380 myself and I have no regrets. Fantastic features, keeps the headphone jack.
6 hours sot? do you mind sharing your tricks, master?
i usually have 3 and end the day on 30-40% left at 8 pm
anaway, i can fully recommend this phone, still looks and feels like it came out two weeks ago
TexasHoldemJoker said:
6 hours sot? do you mind sharing your tricks, master?
i usually have 3 and end the day on 30-40% left at 8 pm
anaway, i can fully recommend this phone, still looks and feels like it came out two weeks ago
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/71imyw/neomancrs_general_battery_and_performance_tuning
I've followed most of these settings.
Make sure you add most of your apps to the "Always Sleeping Apps" list in the battery settings.
Turn off background data for apps you don't need.
Use the "Moderate" setting of battery saving and customize it to your preference.
SOT varies from person to person. On a very heavy day with a full day of 4g use I can get about 4.5-5 hours SOT.
On a light day, I get about 6-6.5 hours
Today was quite a light day. Maybe about an hour of continuous 4g use. Rest has been WiFi and social media.
I only make 3-4h SOT....
So... NO
After year and couple a months that's my opinion.... Awesome
I have this phone for about 10 months now. I had no troubles with it. I haven't seen an app crash since i updated from a really sh phone, alcatel one youch idol mini 3, so from my experience its effin superb phone. Display is amazing, really, amazing. Full screen videos are outstanding, youtube option to zoom till filled is just wow. 2 apps at the same time is my fav option. YT on top and anything else on the bottom. Two accounts for social media apps. Additional storage.. amazing camera with super slo mo 4k video etc.. all in all my experience for s8+ is 9/10
Keep it stock,for a woman its better.
I just got mine second hand about 3 months ago. That is a good deal.
Coming from iphone 6plus(work phone) I did not think I would like it. My other phone at that time was an essential phone. And all my previous phones were pure android. So I did not think I would like the samsung overlay.
It is great the only thing I have done was turn on developer options to get rid if navigation buttons and notification area.
I use it heavily for work email. My app is not battery optimized. Syncing data for changes documents and some tethering data.
Each day I put on the charger at 5:45am and I take it off the charger about 7am and it last me all day until I go to bed about 11pm. I don't pay attention to the battery percentage since I hide the notification at top.
As for speed I don't have a problem.
I would not worry about rooting the phone unless there is a tweak you really need. I have rooted and ROMed every phone but this one. The samsung extras are really good
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Keep it stock,for a woman its better.
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Was only thinking to do that to get rid of bloat and make sure it doesn't slow by time as everyone says about Samsung's phones. From the comments I've been getting I see that's not needed anymore. Thanks.
Will008 said:
Was only thinking to do that to get rid of bloat and make sure it doesn't slow by time as everyone says about Samsung's phones. From the comments I've been getting I see that's not needed anymore. Thanks.
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Nah I still got mine other than a couple stock restores due to bricking mine doesn't ever lag. But I am also rooted and tweaked to the max allowable.
I would have to say depending on the price it's still a good option just no root method for US users any more