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How are you all enjoying your phones?

Looking for people who have had it for a month+. Is it already lagging or getting any worse for you? What do you like or dislike about it? Currently using a 6p and I held an s7 edge and liked it a lot but I'm unsure if I want to purchase it.
Also if you switched from a 6p your opinion would be a huge deal breaker. I am rooted running pn and some xposed modules that I might potentially miss being on the s7 edge.
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I switched from a Note 3 last month (VZW S7E Gold, pre-order, received March 9). I thought I would miss the larger screen, the stylus, IR blaster, but I'm liking it more than I thought I would. It just feels so much better in the hand and in my pocket. Even the screen is nicer to look at. The pictures, no comparison, so much better.
One thing I've noticed is the LACK of lag. I haven't restarted the phone in almost 2 full weeks and there's absolutely no lag whatsoever. My Note 3 would need a reboot every couple of days for a refresh due to lagginess. Now I'm trying to see how long I can go without a reboot. Battery life has been great. I use it to tether at work a lot (get around the work filter) so I can't speak for the screen-on time as the tethering uses a lot of the battery, but I did get over 4 hours SOT at one time. I did have the SD notification issue, but it went away on its own, hoping it doesn't come back. The kids and I have also been using the Gear VR and we all love it, no overheating issues, no bugs, it just works.
Other than the VR stuff, I have no games, mainly use it for internet, tethering, navigation/Android Auto, Samsung Pay (love that!), XDA, etc.
So other than the worry about the SD notification I have no down-side. I do travel a bit, for work and with the family, so that will be another test as I'm out and about around the country to see how it holds up, but I'm confident it's a keeper. At first I just got it to hold me over until the Note 6, but now I don't feel the need for the bigger screen anymore.
Edited to add: Forgot to mention, I was rooted and yes, xposed was nice and there are some modules I could use back, but nothing that makes me want to go back. The pros outweigh the cons for me.

I've had it since March 9th (couple days before launch) and I absolutely love it. I do sometimes feel like there are a couple small cons, but by and large I love this phone. I came from a S6 previously and it's just different enough to have me obsessed with it.
The thing I'm really surprised about is how much I enjoy the gear s2. It works really well with the phone. I had full intentions of selling it. Now it's part of my arsenal. Answering a call in the car while using it is definitely clutch.
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physicsguymatt said:
I switched from a Note 3 last month (VZW S7E Gold, pre-order, received March 9). I thought I would miss the larger screen, the stylus, IR blaster, but I'm liking it more than I thought I would. It just feels so much better in the hand and in my pocket. Even the screen is nicer to look at. The pictures, no comparison, so much better.
One thing I've noticed is the LACK of lag. I haven't restarted the phone in almost 2 full weeks and there's absolutely no lag whatsoever. My Note 3 would need a reboot every couple of days for a refresh due to lagginess. Now I'm trying to see how long I can go without a reboot. Battery life has been great. I use it to tether at work a lot (get around the work filter) so I can't speak for the screen-on time as the tethering uses a lot of the battery, but I did get over 4 hours SOT at one time. I did have the SD notification issue, but it went away on its own, hoping it doesn't come back. The kids and I have also been using the Gear VR and we all love it, no overheating issues, no bugs, it just works.
Other than the VR stuff, I have no games, mainly use it for internet, tethering, navigation/Android Auto, Samsung Pay (love that!), XDA, etc.
So other than the worry about the SD notification I have no down-side. I do travel a bit, for work and with the family, so that will be another test as I'm out and about around the country to see how it holds up, but I'm confident it's a keeper. At first I just got it to hold me over until the Note 6, but now I don't feel the need for the bigger screen anymore.
Edited to add: Forgot to mention, I was rooted and yes, xposed was nice and there are some modules I could use back, but nothing that makes me want to go back. The pros outweigh the cons for me.
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What is this notification you're talking about? Yeah I definitely wish I would have gone for the vr and phone deal but I missed it. Yeah rooting can sometimes be a huge pain to deal with.
h3ck said:
I've had it since March 9th (couple days before launch) and I absolutely love it. I do sometimes feel like there are a couple small cons, but by and large I love this phone. I came from a S6 previously and it's just different enough to have me obsessed with it.
The thing I'm really surprised about is how much I enjoy the gear s2. It works really well with the phone. I had full intentions of selling it. Now it's part of my arsenal. Answering a call in the car while using it is definitely clutch.
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Oh I see, I don't know if I would purchase the gear s2 but those are some good points. How is your battery after a month?
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kench33 said:
What is this notification you're talking about? Yeah I definitely wish I would have gone for the vr and phone deal but I missed it. Yeah rooting can sometimes be a huge pain to deal with.
Oh I see, I don't know if I would purchase the gear s2 but those are some good points. How is your battery after a month?
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I got the gear s2 free (totally wouldn't have bought it either hahaha). The battery is superb. I'm a power user, forums, social media, websites, reddit, camera, camera, camera, etc. Lol
I usually take off the charger at 4 to 5am and only rarely make it to about 11pm with less than 10% know that's a YouTube, camera heavy day). Battery life is night and day to the S6.
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kench33 said:
What is this notification you're talking about?
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There quite a number of posts about it. It's a persistent notification of the SD card being ready for photos and videos. It's apparently a regular mounting/dismounting issue, but no word/proof if it's hardware or software related. Very sporadic and hard to pinpoint the cause or solution. Mine just went away. Seems to be more prevalent on first batch models. Not much lately on it.

kench33 said:
Looking for people who have had it for a month+. Is it already lagging or getting any worse for you? What do you like or dislike about it? Currently using a 6p and I held an s7 edge and liked it a lot but I'm unsure if I want to purchase it.
Also if you switched from a 6p your opinion would be a huge deal breaker. I am rooted running pn and some xposed modules that I might potentially miss being on the s7 edge.
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Came from a 6p running PN and xposed as well and I have had the SGS7e for about a month. Being perfectly honest I haven't picked up my Nexus since then. I originally switched from the SGS6e to the 6p strictly because of the lack of development and rooting, swore I would never go back to Sammy, I still kind of hate them for allowing the carriers to bully them into locking down these phones but it is what is. Now after being able to do what I want for a while on my Nexus 6p, and loving it, I ran into the situation where I had to switch from AT&T to Verizon due to signal issues (I work in the hospital). I was able to get 2 SGS7e's on a BOGO deal so figured I'd give it a shot, and again haven't really looked back. Yes the TouchWiz interface still socks a bit, the lag is definitely a lot less now, hardly ever honestly, but still not like the 6p on PN... you just can't make that combo lag, always crisp and smooth! There are more adjustments/settings you can make to TouchWiz now so I don't totally miss exposed, but again everyone uses different modules so my experience may be different then yours, I mainly used exposed for visual tweaks etc... This phone will probably never see root so that is something I have to live with, but I will probably sell my 6p on Swappa and save the money towards the next nexus in case I get sick of no root. But for now the SGS7E works for me, I don't have a ton of time to root and tweak and figure out issues right now, the size is just right (the 6p is a tad bigger than I prefer), the interface is improved on the edge, more little niches to tinker with, the Camera is definitely better, and overall I just like using it better now. But again the 6p is no slouch, crisper/quicker/cleaner running for the most part and all the roms and tweaks you can ask for lol. Decisions, decisions lol its a great dilemma to be stuck in!!
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Came from a rooted S6, but I really only rooted it (and stopped updates) to manage the battery life and keep tethering. After having the S7 Edge for slightly less than a month, I can say I almost don't miss root. No, actually, I can't see a reason I *need* root on this phone. I'd do it if I could, but it's just not needed. I don't even run any of the disabling apps. I've manually turned off a few Verizon bloat apps though.
Lag is non-existent, battery life has settled nicely. I can get an entire day and then some, with about 4 hours screen time. I have the always on screen off, as I don't need a clock and that's pretty much all it's good for right now. I have Google Now voice off as well. Other than that I'm running all the usual battery hogs. I do have aggressive doze set in Greenify. I forgot to put the phone on the charger last night after a full day of use, including some photos, Facebook, some light gaming and a few phone calls. This morning I woke up and it still had 41%. I'm pretty happy.
This is also the lightest, most useful Touchwiz Samsung has ever done. I feel like it kind of improves stock Android, tbh.

jroyalty7 said:
Came from a 6p running PN and xposed as well and I have had the SGS7e for about a month. Being perfectly honest I haven't picked up my Nexus since then. I originally switched from the SGS6e to the 6p strictly because of the lack of development and rooting, swore I would never go back to Sammy, I still kind of hate them for allowing the carriers to bully them into locking down these phones but it is what is. Now after being able to do what I want for a while on my Nexus 6p, and loving it, I ran into the situation where I had to switch from AT&T to Verizon due to signal issues (I work in the hospital). I was able to get 2 SGS7e's on a BOGO deal so figured I'd give it a shot, and again haven't really looked back. Yes the TouchWiz interface still socks a bit, the lag is definitely a lot less now, hardly ever honestly, but still not like the 6p on PN... you just can't make that combo lag, always crisp and smooth! There are more adjustments/settings you can make to TouchWiz now so I don't totally miss exposed, but again everyone uses different modules so my experience may be different then yours, I mainly used exposed for visual tweaks etc... This phone will probably never see root so that is something I have to live with, but I will probably sell my 6p on Swappa and save the money towards the next nexus in case I get sick of no root. But for now the SGS7E works for me, I don't have a ton of time to root and tweak and figure out issues right now, the size is just right (the 6p is a tad bigger than I prefer), the interface is improved on the edge, more little niches to tinker with, the Camera is definitely better, and overall I just like using it better now. But again the 6p is no slouch, crisper/quicker/cleaner running for the most part and all the roms and tweaks you can ask for lol. Decisions, decisions lol its a great dilemma to be stuck in!!
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Yeah definitely I really hard decision. I may try to find one on swappa if the price is right.
stark23x said:
Came from a rooted S6, but I really only rooted it (and stopped updates) to manage the battery life and keep tethering. After having the S7 Edge for slightly less than a month, I can say I almost don't miss root. No, actually, I can't see a reason I *need* root on this phone. I'd do it if I could, but it's just not needed. I don't even run any of the disabling apps. I've manually turned off a few Verizon bloat apps though.
Lag is non-existent, battery life has settled nicely. I can get an entire day and then some, with about 4 hours screen time. I have the always on screen off, as I don't need a clock and that's pretty much all it's good for right now. I have Google Now voice off as well. Other than that I'm running all the usual battery hogs. I do have aggressive doze set in Greenify. I forgot to put the phone on the charger last night after a full day of use, including some photos, Facebook, some light gaming and a few phone calls. This morning I woke up and it still had 41%. I'm pretty happy.
This is also the lightest, most useful Touchwiz Samsung has ever done. I feel like it kind of improves stock Android, tbh.
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Can you still tether? I have unlimited and that's the main reason I like to root.
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kench33 said:
Yeah definitely I really hard decision. I may try to find one on swappa if the price is right.
Can you still tether? I have unlimited and that's the main reason I like to root.
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I just downloaded the free FoxFi, went through the install and tethered my laptop to respond. So yes, it works!

stark23x said:
I just downloaded the free FoxFi, went through the install and tethered my laptop to respond. So yes, it works!
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You have unlimited data too or a gb plan?

stark23x said:
Came from a rooted S6, but I really only rooted it (and stopped updates) to manage the battery life and keep tethering. After having the S7 Edge for slightly less than a month, I can say I almost don't miss root. No, actually, I can't see a reason I *need* root on this phone. I'd do it if I could, but it's just not needed. I don't even run any of the disabling apps. I've manually turned off a few Verizon bloat apps though.
Lag is non-existent, battery life has settled nicely. I can get an entire day and then some, with about 4 hours screen time. I have the always on screen off, as I don't need a clock and that's pretty much all it's good for right now. I have Google Now voice off as well. Other than that I'm running all the usual battery hogs. I do have aggressive doze set in Greenify. I forgot to put the phone on the charger last night after a full day of use, including some photos, Facebook, some light gaming and a few phone calls. This morning I woke up and it still had 41%. I'm pretty happy.
This is also the lightest, most useful Touchwiz Samsung has ever done. I feel like it kind of improves stock Android, tbh.
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Your last sentence is something that strikes a tone with me. I think some android fans find it popular to spew touch wiz hate. I get it, look at my signature, I've been with Android since Nexus and stock were one in the same.
Vanilla Android is fast and clean and beautiful. Buy by no means is it perfect or the best user experience.
TouchWiz is not perfect, it's not better or worse. It just has some enhancements that I think people always neglect. Samsung was supporting USB OTG and had split screen multitasking before anyone. Now it will finally be in Android. That's just one example. My point is this phone gets to that final level that a skinned phone can match or really surpass a Nexus in functionality, despite the popular concensus. It's a stellar phone, not just hype.
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kench33 said:
You have unlimited data too or a gb plan?
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I gave up unlimited when I realized that we just weren't using more than 2-3GB a month, like, ever. I was paying a lot for something I just never used. I took the money and upgraded my home internet instead, where I use more data than freaking Google

h3ck said:
Your last sentence is something that strikes a tone with me. I think some android fans find it popular to spew touch wiz hate. I get it, look at my signature, I've been with Android since Nexus and stock were one in the same.
Vanilla Android is fast and clean and beautiful. Buy by no means is it perfect or the best user experience.
TouchWiz is not perfect, it's not better or worse. It just has some enhancements that I think people always neglect. Samsung was supporting USB OTG and had split screen multitasking before anyone. Now it will finally be in Android. That's just one example. My point is this phone gets to that final level that a skinned phone can match or really surpass a Nexus in functionality, despite the popular concensus. It's a stellar phone, not just hype.
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Totally agree. It's the very first time since the OG Droid that I am 99.975% okay without root. I'd love to be able to write to the hosts file and not use one of the VPN-style ad blockers. That is the one thing I miss now. And I'm not even that bothered by the ads.
Really love this phone.

I have this edge and g5. G5 way smoother s7edge lags
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I gave up unlimited when I realized that we just weren't using more than 2-3GB a month, like, ever. I was paying a lot for something I just never used. I took the money and upgraded my home internet instead, where I use more data than freaking Google
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You could've sold the UDP for 700
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Rootuser3.0 said:
You could've sold the UDP for 700
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Literally didn't know what you meant until I looked it up. Wow. Did I miss out on a chunk of cash. Wish I'd have read about this before I did it.

stark23x said:
Literally didn't know what you meant until I looked it up. Wow. Did I miss out on a chunk of cash. Wish I'd have read about this before I did it.
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Yes it's called an AOL (assumption of liability) someone pays you whatever amount you want to sell the plan for and you both call in and they assume the contract and or line. They must pass the credit check of course and Verizon has their own AOL department
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Phone sucks
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Ironically enough, I'm in the same exact boat. Work IS in a hospital, so I can't do AT&T around here. I'm just really missing root for true AD-blocking and ViperFX.

MArtyChubbs said:
Phone sucks
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It is? Like a vacuum? Must be nice, mine only phones.
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What will be your next phone after the S7 Edge?

I have the S7 Edge a year now and still am pretty much satisfied with overall performance, camera, GPS during navigation etc. Sometimes the external sd card isn't recognized, which kinda sucks (it is then recognized again after some time without doing anything), but this is actually throwing me off a bit from the S7 Edge and I was looking around what to get as my next phone, probably without external SD card and with bigger internal storage (128 GB preferable). I always rooted but haven't done it with the S7-edge, as I didn't felt I needed it anymore (performance is great and battery life also, even without flashing any different kernel).
I was looking into different phones to dump the S7 Edge:
Oneplus 5: camera seems not to be so good, compared to the S7 Edge (no OIS on the Oneplus 5). And camera is very important to me.
The S8 plus was also an option, but seems not much of an upgrade.
The Note 8 still only has 64GB storage.
Not to sure how the HTC u11 is, never had an HTC phone, only Samsung (Galaxy S1, S2, S4 and now the S7-edge).
Also had some Google Nexus phones, so maybe the next Pixel phone might be an option (unfortunately they are really pricey).
What are you guys are planning to get after the S7 Edge?

one plus 5 is really good it has insane charging speed and overall in speed tests beats galaxy s8 and all other phones its a powerhouse. pixel 2 will be probabyl good but super expensive. LG V30 idk yet, note 8 is too big for me. The Essential phone is pretty insane but $699 and its not out yet.
but at this point i cant live without AOD and wireless charging so I will probably get S8 next

I plan on keeping mine for quite a bit longer. Honestly, at this point buying anything else would be for aesthetics only, as processors and ram are not really moving anywhere that much better.

crixley said:
I plan on keeping mine for quite a bit longer. Honestly, at this point buying anything else would be for aesthetics only, as processors and ram are not really moving anywhere that much better.
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Unfortunately I think your right, not much of an improvement, except for the Oneplus 5. The Pixel 2 is rumored to be the first phone to have the next snapdragon processor, which might be the next step in terms of speed / performance, also having pure Android is nice and the modder community usually is great. But the price might be insane (look at the current Pixel price, it's still very high).

adl said:
Unfortunately I think your right, not much of an improvement, except for the Oneplus 5. The Pixel 2 is rumored to be the first phone to have the next snapdragon processor, which might be the next step in terms of speed / performance, also having pure Android is nice and the modder community usually is great. But the price might be insane (look at the current Pixel price, it's still very high).
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The trade offs to owning a oneplus 5 for me are not worth the minimal speed gains imo.

Probably wait for the S9 plus. I really love my S7E.

Probably switching things up. Im looking at the new nokia 8 but its camera isnt as good as it could be.
Ill see the nokia 9 ever comes. Otherwise ill wait for something better.

I would love a Pixel 2 but price will be too high for me. And also a bezel-less phone ..like the essential!

No idea. I tend to keep my phone's for a long time. I don't get the upgrade every year thing. I just upgraded from a Nexus 5 a few months ago, and that was only because the camera sucks too bad and I needed more storage. If not for that I would probably have still kept it. It's still plenty fast enough. I expect I'll be using my s7 edge for at least another 3 years.

madrigal77 said:
No idea. I tend to keep my phone's for a long time. I don't get the upgrade every year thing. I just upgraded from a Nexus 5 a few months ago, and that was only because the camera sucks too bad and I needed more storage. If not for that I would probably have still kept it. It's still plenty fast enough. I expect I'll be using my s7 edge for at least another 3 years.
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Wow, must admit I got a new phone every year for the last 3 or 4 years, but with the S7 Edge I am to satisfied to get a new phone or let's say I am to unimpressed by everything which came out since then. Just feel that there isn't any real step up from there, especially regarding camera, battery life and even performance. Also stuff like the HTC u11 squeeze thing isn't anything interesting imho.

At first the Note 8 didn't impress me like I thought it would. But after I ran through what I want in a phone, and what's on the market. The Note 8 is really the only device that truly does everything.
Large hi-res OLED display
External Storage
Headphone jack
Waterproof
Wireless Charging
True Dual Camera (OIS on both sensors)
The Note 8 checks all of those boxes and to my knowledge is the only phone that does currently. The S7 and S8 cameras are already fantastic so having a dual setup is a perfect upgrade. And the extra 2GB of RAM is a really good bonus too. Honestly love my S7E but I just couldn't pass up the offer to trade it in and only pay $2 more a month with ATT Next.

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At first the Note 8 didn't impress me like I thought it would. But after I ran through what I want in a phone, and what's on the market. The Note 8 is really the only device that truly does everything.
Large hi-res OLED display
External Storage
Headphone jack
Waterproof
Wireless Charging
True Dual Camera (OIS on both sensors)
The Note 8 checks all of those boxes and to my knowledge is the only phone that does currently. The S7 and S8 cameras are already fantastic so having a dual setup is a perfect upgrade. And the extra 2GB of RAM is a really good bonus too. Honestly love my S7E but I just couldn't pass up the offer to trade it in and only pay $2 more a month with ATT Next.
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That's an awesome deal, I would too if I were you tbh

iPhone 8. No, I'm not kidding.

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iPhone 8. No, I'm not kidding.
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You had an iPhone before? I always had android, except for an MacBook (worst idea ever to get one, I am running windows since forever). Really couldn't see me getting an iPhone ever.

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You had an iPhone before? I always had android, except for an MacBook (worst idea ever to get one, I am running windows since forever). Really couldn't see me getting an iPhone ever.
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Yes. Quite some time ago. I'm simply sick of notification issues. Sick of things not working the way they are supposed to. Sick of 2 exact same model phones not working the same. Sick of not getting calls or even notifications. Sick of antenna issues. Sick of not getting updates forever. I just want a phone that works. One that is supported and one that isn't forgotten the second a new phone comes out.
I know this is the wrong forum to be talking about this, so that's all I have to say about that. The new iPhone looks awesome. Yes, it's not Android and you can't root it or load ROM's, meh...I just want my phone to work and get updates as soon as they are available. My 6P had major battery issues and now I have numerous issues with this S7 Edge. Just time for a phone to work like it's supposed to and if it doesn't, then I can simply walk into a store and get it fixed or replaced on the spot.

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Yes. Quite some time ago. I'm simply sick of notification issues. Sick of things not working the way they are supposed to. Sick of 2 exact same model phones not working the same. Sick of not getting calls or even notifications. Sick of antenna issues. Sick of not getting updates forever. I just want a phone that works. One that is supported and one that isn't forgotten the second a new phone comes out.
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I hear you, man. But with the S7 Edge everything is running really fine for me since day 1 (maybe because I didn't root or flash any custom ROM /Kernel und / mod etc. as I did with every previous phone) . Just the external SD card is acting up all of a sudden (could be the sd card, not the phone itself).

TheIgster said:
Yes. Quite some time ago. I'm simply sick of notification issues. Sick of things not working the way they are supposed to. Sick of 2 exact same model phones not working the same. Sick of not getting calls or even notifications. Sick of antenna issues. Sick of not getting updates forever. I just want a phone that works. One that is supported and one that isn't forgotten the second a new phone comes out.
I know this is the wrong forum to be talking about this, so that's all I have to say about that. The new iPhone looks awesome. Yes, it's not Android and you can't root it or load ROM's, meh...I just want my phone to work and get updates as soon as they are available. My 6P had major battery issues and now I have numerous issues with this S7 Edge. Just time for a phone to work like it's supposed to and if it doesn't, then I can simply walk into a store and get it fixed or replaced on the spot.
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you got broken phone. period. that is not reason for changing brand, but everyone is doing with money what they want, right..
mine is working with 0 problems from day 1. actualy newer had any phone that works perfect like this one.. never rooted, flashed.. everything stock
and yes, i had iphone too.
i dont know what to get next, i feel sorry to sell this one, and dont see any realy worth buying something newer..
actualy i changing devices often, but stuck on this one

digitall1982 said:
you got broken phone. period. that is not reason for changing brand, but everyone is doing with money what they want, right..
mine is working with 0 problems from day 1. actualy newer had any phone that works perfect like this one.. never rooted, flashed.. everything stock
and yes, i had iphone too.
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The improper behavior is completely sporadic. A "broken" phone would always perform incorrectly.

Note 8 exynos south east variant need a unlocked bootloader.

TheIgster said:
The improper behavior is completely sporadic. A "broken" phone would always perform incorrectly.
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it can be because of bad sd card or bad sim card..
seen that with my eyes, bad sd card was making whole bunch of unusual behavor, slowdowns, freezing, etc... and the best part; it was only somethimes.. just random..
if that is not the case, go to repair shop. problem must be found and solved. dont think that is default behavior for all units of s7edge.. it's not! and if you got some problem someone must solve it, obviously you want, it's better moan on forums about that, right?

Still Worth it A Year Later?

Hey guys, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on if this phone is still worth it? Especially for right around $300. Or am I better off saving some more money and buying a Pixel/Pixel XL or waiting for the Pixel 2s?

succumbtothegreater said:
Hey guys, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on if this phone is still worth it? Especially for right around $300. Or am I better off saving some more money and buying a Pixel/Pixel XL or waiting for the Pixel 2s?
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It's depend what you need overall I am happy with the v20. It's still great phone plus the killer audio if you don't need the new and greatest device. The good are good screen, audio, good for contents consumption, removeable battery. The not so good LG stock ui a little laggy for me sometime, size is not so compact and not much dev support for this phone. For $300 its steal. New phones not much new really they just try to make money from us after few weeks it get old like other phones.

I think so, of course, I just bought one last week...
With the price drops, it's a very good device for the money. Specs haven't been increasing as fast as years past, so devices are quite usable for longer times than before. We can still unlock/root and AOSP based ROMs are getting good. Updates will never be as fast as Google devices like the Pixel, but it's not bad and you don't lose as much waiting it out like we used to. Even Oreo doesn't add that much that I care about for features. The very latest flagships are maybe 20% faster. They also cost 2-3x as much. Value isn't there for me. Maybe it is for you, that's your decision to make.
I'm not interested in Pixel or most new devices right now. I came from a Nexus 6 with a dieing battery. I can replace it, and probably will, but it's annoying to do and runs a risk of destroying the device for a known maintenance part that we know will die. It's a bit like welding the oil plug on a car so you can't change the oil. Eventually it will die, it's a matter of time.
My requirements were: large screen (5.5"+), root, removable battery, SD, headphone jack, TMobile compatibility, value. I would have liked front facing speaker/speakers, but I can live without them. There's nothing out there in this year's devices that interests me. There's nothing wrong with options, but I do wish I had a couple to choose from as well. V20 was pretty much it. On the plus side for it though, tempered glass screen protectors are available that work well. And extended batteries. With the Zero Lemon 10k battery, I have what amounts to unlimited battery life. I'd probably fall asleep before running out. I also really hate the design trend with the camera sticking out from the back, and prefer thicker phones anyway, so it works for me.
If I were to drop removable battery, Axon 7 and OnePlus get more interesting. Though OnePlus doesn't have SD either, putting them lower on the list.
If root is important to you, make sure you know what software version you are getting and check to make sure it can be rooted. Some of the newer ones can't be yet. TMobile 10p, for example, can not.

I've had mine since launch and I still enjoy it. Granted the development support has stagnated lately. But I would completely recommend it. Especially if you get an extended battery.

I've had my v20 for three or four months. Solid phone, can't see any reason to upgrade.
I could buy three of these for the price of a galaxy note 8! Or one of these and a halfway decent laptop!

After this 10p update i'd have to say no. better off getting a v30 when it comes out.

zeruth said:
After this 10p update i'd have to say no. better off getting a v30 when it comes out.
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Any particular reason why? Wasn't that just security patches?

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Yes, that killed of DirtyCow, that killed off root for the foreseeable future.
If LG hadn't deleted all fastboot commands i'd say yeah get the V20. but now it will be unrootable and uncustomizable for quite some time.

I used the twrp zip 10p bootloader and modem... It completely refreshed my performance.
Getting 70+mbs down and 16 up... Compared to 10k modem I was getting 16 down and 3 up if lucky.
I also still have root (non OTA update).
So if you install update through twrp you still keep root.
I wouldn't ever really upgrade phones unless it's a new device that supports the new 600mhz band and 700mhz.
Had mine for a year.... It's amazing. Once you get it right, camera is good (Lazer focus and resolution replaced dslr), audio with DAC/HiFi/viper is amazing.
Screen and battery is great, sd card is a must for me.
If you can get a pristine/new one for $2-300 it's well worth it.
Only gripe, wish there was water proof case.
Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Thanks for the answers guys! But I ended up getting the Pixel XL for the sheer performance and rootability and I'm happy with the decision.

Essential PH-1 vs Pixel 2 XL Need Help

I need to get a new phone. My current Nexus 6 can barley keep a charge and is very sluggish. I have a chance to get a PH-1 for $280 outright or $240 for sprint version vs getting a Pixel 2 XL for $600. Basically the pixel is more than double the price. I am on Verizon and don;t have many other options for phones that can be easily rooted and bootloader unlocked. I have been reading this forum and most everyone likes their PH-1 except the camera. Is the Camera that bad? How much better is it now with newer software? Google Camera port? Is their anything that would steer me clear from this phone? Money is tight and I really can't afford to spend that much more money if I don't to. Saying that I don't want to buy the PH-1 and hating it only to spend more money to get something else. As for the Sprint version of the phone, I have read it takes only 2 files to unlock it then I read you can't, which on is it? Should I spend the extra $40 to get the non-sprint version?
I know I asked many questions and all your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
BB

The camera is a non issue as most of us use the Google Camera port as our Camera app, so you'll get great IQ from your PH-1 essentially using a port of the Pixel 2 camera app on yr PH-1 see here https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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A big factor is size. I came from the OG pixel (non xl) and I have fallen in love with the size of this phone. The pixel 2 xl I hear is a little tall. It's about as tall as the the nexus 6 actually. However for 280 I can't think of a better deal.. I got mine for 350 and it is a hell of a lot of phone for the price. Just use the Google camera port for sure though

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I need to get a new phone. My current Nexus 6 can barley keep a charge and is very sluggish. I have a chance to get a PH-1 for $280 outright or $240 for sprint version vs getting a Pixel 2 XL for $600. Basically the pixel is more than double the price. I am on Verizon and don;t have many other options for phones that can be easily rooted and bootloader unlocked. I have been reading this forum and most everyone likes their PH-1 except the camera. Is the Camera that bad? How much better is it now with newer software? Google Camera port? Is their anything that would steer me clear from this phone? Money is tight and I really can't afford to spend that much more money if I don't to. Saying that I don't want to buy the PH-1 and hating it only to spend more money to get something else. As for the Sprint version of the phone, I have read it takes only 2 files to unlock it then I read you can't, which on is it? Should I spend the extra $40 to get the non-sprint version?
I know I asked many questions and all your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
BB
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I'm on Verizon and the phone works great.
I don't have any real complaints about the camera and the ability to have a 360 camera is great.
People seem to want DSLR quality from a smart phone. I don't I expect smartphone/point and shoot quality and it meets that.
Is is better than the iPhoneX? I don't know.
Is it better than the Nexus 6P that I had previously? Yep.
I keep a mirrorless APS-C camera in the car. So for me, the phone is a last resort for pics.

Sorry OP, may I borrow your post and make a question too?
I have a Mate 10 Pro, I had the chance to use the Essential Phone for one day.
I know that we can't judge anything with one day but... The Essential Phone felt a little lagging compared to my Mate 10 Pro. One note I have to say is that the Essential was on 8.0.0 (I guess) and not the latest 8.1 update.
So I ask: Isn't the Essential Phone a little slow compared to the others flagships? The camera is a good example to say.
(And I've heard that the Pixel 2 (XL) is one of the fastest smartphone period.)
Sorry again, OP.

Speaking on performance. I have read that the OS is jiggery not smooth. Any comments on that?
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Speaking on performance. I have read that the OS is jiggery not smooth. Any comments on that?
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Not on 8.1. I just came to this from a Nexus 6, and I've run everything on that, including more than half of the 8.1 ports and for me there's no comparison, this device is a much snappier experience.

If having the bootloader unlocked and rooting is important to you what about ROM or kernel development? There is almost no development for the Essential. After a year on the market only two custom ROMs that I know of officially support this phone--AOSP and Carbon. Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but the development community is almost non-existent.

Twrp is weird on this phone, you cant install it permanently. You'll need to always be near a computer if you want to install anything. Screen has lackluster touch response, smoothness is hit or miss with the jitteriness. Edge detection could be improved. Don't have a pixel but I'd recommend it over the essential.

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Twrp is weird on this phone, you cant install it permanently. You'll need to always be near a computer if you want to install anything. Screen has lackluster touch response, smoothness is hit or miss with the jitteriness. Edge detection could be improved. Don't have a pixel but I'd recommend it over the essential.
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TWRP is not weird on this phone.
The boot holds the recovery also.
This just means that the custom recovery must be integrated into boot image.
The phone has to complete boot/os setups. The makes sure that you can always recover and you can update the OS white the phone is running.
As far as jitter. A fix is in the developer options in 8.1.
I don't have any touch response issues and the overall device is much better than a Pixel (IMHO).

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Twrp is weird on this phone, you cant install it permanently. You'll need to always be near a computer if you want to install anything. Screen has lackluster touch response, smoothness is hit or miss with the jitteriness. Edge detection could be improved. Don't have a pixel but I'd recommend it over the essential.
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And how much did you spend?

Bad Bimr said:
I need to get a new phone. My current Nexus 6 can barley keep a charge and is very sluggish. I have a chance to get a PH-1 for $280 outright or $240 for sprint version vs getting a Pixel 2 XL for $600. Basically the pixel is more than double the price. I am on Verizon and don;t have many other options for phones that can be easily rooted and bootloader unlocked. I have been reading this forum and most everyone likes their PH-1 except the camera. Is the Camera that bad? How much better is it now with newer software? Google Camera port? Is their anything that would steer me clear from this phone? Money is tight and I really can't afford to spend that much more money if I don't to. Saying that I don't want to buy the PH-1 and hating it only to spend more money to get something else. As for the Sprint version of the phone, I have read it takes only 2 files to unlock it then I read you can't, which on is it? Should I spend the extra $40 to get the non-sprint version?
I know I asked many questions and all your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
BB
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I have been using PH-1 for a while now and with the official Oreo update and camera port I can recommend this phone. I have an iPhone X also and don't really like it as a "Daily Driver", too use to Android and all it can do over iOS, PH-1 camera is up to par with the iPhone's camera as well. Battery life is the same as the iPhones and no complaints on the UI jitters or signal strength. It's a good phone overall!:good:

garywojdan81 said:
And how much did you spend?
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400 for it
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tech_head said:
TWRP is not weird on this phone.
The boot holds the recovery also.
This just means that the custom recovery must be integrated into boot image.
The phone has to complete boot/os setups. The makes sure that you can always recover and you can update the OS white the phone is running.
As far as jitter. A fix is in the developer options in 8.1.
I don't have any touch response issues and the overall device is much better than a Pixel (IMHO).
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Yeah, tried the magisc fix. Phone isn't smooth. Trying to scroll with one hand and having the momentum break cause my hand is slightly touching the screen is annoying AF, like i'm scrolling and it randomly bounces the other way annoying. Scrolling through sites/apps just doesn't feel as good compared to my U11.

Just installed the P preview and the phone feels way better than oreo we'll see how it goes.

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Just installed the P preview and the phone feels way better than oreo we'll see how it goes.
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P isn't ready for prime time. I hope it works for you though.
I'll wait.

tech_head said:
TWRP is not weird on this phone.
The boot holds the recovery also.
This just means that the custom recovery must be integrated into boot image.
The phone has to complete boot/os setups. The makes sure that you can always recover and you can update the OS white the phone is running.
As far as jitter. A fix is in the developer options in 8.1.
I don't have any touch response issues and the overall device is much better than a Pixel (IMHO).
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What is the fix for jitter in developer options that you are referring to?

jhs39 said:
What is the fix for jitter in developer options that you are referring to?
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Touch sensitivity in developer options. I have mine set at 8.

tech_head said:
P isn't ready for prime time. I hope it works for you though.
I'll wait.
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I haven't had any issues at all

A_Pac1 said:
I have been using PH-1 for a while now and with the official Oreo update and camera port I can recommend this phone. I have an iPhone X also and don't really like it as a "Daily Driver", too use to Android and all it can do over iOS, PH-1 camera is up to par with the iPhone's camera as well. Battery life is the same as the iPhones and no complaints on the UI jitters or signal strength. It's a good phone overall!:good:
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Which camera port are you using, if you mind my asking? Looking at the link, I'm assuming the best one is:
Arnova's v7beta9: GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7beta-test-9.apk (Arnova8G2, 2018-03-25, no config needed, suggested settings, changelog)
Just got a PH-1 last night and want to fully set it up and use it for a few days before selling my S8.
Thanks

coop3422 said:
Which camera port are you using, if you mind my asking? Looking at the link, I'm assuming the best one is:
Arnova's v7beta9: GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7beta-test-9.apk (Arnova8G2, 2018-03-25, no config needed, suggested settings, changelog)
Just got a PH-1 last night and want to fully set it up and use it for a few days before selling my S8.
Thanks
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Yes sir, that's the one! Motion pictures, HDR+, Portrait all working perfect!!:good:

worth it?

OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?

arknailed7754 said:
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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Best phone I've owned.
I like the fact that it is dual SIM and works on Verizon.

OnePlus 7 is right around the corner. I'd wait for that if I were you.

arknailed7754 said:
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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I just got this phone and it's the best phones I've had. I've only had all Galaxies but even with Ron's on my galaxy this phone is soooooo buttery smooth and very fast. It's basically everything I'd try to get my Samsung to be. This is a great choice but the OnePlus 7 is coming out soon so it's up to you.
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I've seen the standard op7 specs its not much different to be fair. Unless your going pro. Thanks for the responses. I'll get my op6t

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arknailed7754 said:
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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Okay, so, after going through many brands and various experiences these are my 2 cents on the 6T: :fingers-crossed:
Camera is very good, but there are better options if you're purely focusing on photography
The performance is absolutely magnificent. Dominates the charts.
The UI experience is one of the best. OxygenOS not only instigates a fully seamless and stock experience, it offers a wide range of personalization options and really helps the user experience.
It is a stable OS, updated consistently and unlikely to experience unprecedented hard resets and bootloops.
Connectivity is brilliant, apart from the Bluetooth. I have been having some trouble with the automatic connection to eg wireless headsets and the instance of remaining connected or switching between audio sources, also had some issues with connecting to other devices.
Screen is great, yet I feel they could've done better with the resolution, than just 1080p.
Other features like the notch and the fingerprint sensor are huge pluses and good conversation starters, as they not only make the device an actual beauty but are recent innovations.
The build quality is great. Sturdy, durable, slick.
Lack of a headphone jack is a bit asinine, but does not in anyway overweight the advantages. Would still like to see a jack on the upcoming 7.
Great price. Value for money.
The lack of a stereo speaker and poor placement not only makes it easier for one to cover it up accidentally but also makes for an okay audio experience, which is unsatisfactory by my standards.

I love my 6T, but would sell it in a minute and buy a 7, if the 7 brings back a notification LED.

I got the OP6T McLaren edition in January and it has been a fun device. I agree with everything others said above.
For lack of notification LED light, there are a few apps you can use that work very well. And for the lack of stereo speakers, there is a magisk module that turns the earpiece into a second speaker which works well. :good:

I bought one because it seemed like the best value locally. My wife bought at the same time one of those $1400 apple doo hicky things after playing with my phone for 37 minutes she made me return her fancy designed in California apple and buy her a one plus 6t.

Well I got it. Brilliant phone

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I love my 6T, but would sell it in a minute and buy a 7, if the 7 brings back a notification LED.
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Lol anything that has been removed during the span of 6 and 6T will not ever return. Led is going away in almost every smartphone coming out this year even Samsung removed it in the s10 and it's all to make more screen and OnePlus will follow that trend just like with the notch...... And they're definitely not bringing back headphone jack.... Both 7 and 7 pro are going to be using an optical in display demerit similar to the one used in the 6T... Maybe the pro will have something better since it's the pro though (ultrasonic?) Maybe but I don't think so.....

This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd

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This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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Exactly. Everyone says to root it an get more, but in reality, unless you use a lot of magsik moduels then there is no reason to. Only thing g I did was turn my TMobile variant into an international one.

I only use root to block ads but there are solutions for that these days. Root is also use full to get rid of gapps.

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Exactly. Everyone says to root it an get more, but in reality, unless you use a lot of magsik moduels then there is no reason to. Only thing g I did was turn my TMobile variant into an international one.
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I switched mine to international. Rooted with magisk to block ads, enable dual speaker, also used swift installer to completely black out everything so I conserve battery. Viper 4 android. Installed TWRP as well. I agree though I was very impressed with everything stock. I've always had Samsung phones and this was everything I'd try to get my Samsung to be.
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Weirdly I did root but literally for the kernel. I'll not be changing the ROM..probably ever on this. Oxygen is sweet

arknailed7754 said:
This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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Same here