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Well, i just got my Moto X Play 32gb . And from less than 24h Using it, my first impressions are :
Battery : Looks very promising, it's settling down , but from a little usage you already feel like it will make thru the day easily , my mourning starts with me unplugging it, and wile making and eating my breakfast i check my e-mails, messengers , news , videos etc.. using about 1h screen time , then i put it back to charge for about 30 min. before i go out, and my Moto X 2gen and Galaxy S6 edge usually was around 70 something % after that first usage. The Moto X Play today was 91 % before plug it in , 1h 04 m of SOT .
Charging IT : Yesterday when i unboxed my Play X , it came with 60% Battery , my X 2 gen was around 70 % , i putted both on charging , both with the same cable and turbo charger , same model etc.. and the X play hit 100% 10 to 15 minutes earlier than X 2gen. so looks like it won't take forever to charge that massive battery with the Turbo Charger . One more thing : Moto X play now tells you when it's turbo charging , so now i will be able to test if those 3rd party chargers that says 2.4a or quick charge will get that message.
Display : With that extra size i definitely can see less resolution , i'm comparing with moto X 2gen, not SG6 edge. But after a few minutes using it you don't even notice anymore. The colors seem less evident, less contrast , but much better brightness and better whites. Active display lost the ir sensors so , no waving to see time. and the motion sensitivity is toned down with longer time before acting , so in the car the thing lights up less times although when at dark you see the whole display bright even the black part gets grey (typical from LCD panels ) But they should set the brightness lower for the active display , regardless what you are using for the screen ( i prefer more to the high brightness side , with amoled i go full , LCD - 80% ) .
SoC : Don't know if the processor is the cause, but i can fell some sluggishness when using multiple apps or switching apps i am tempted to say that it feels weaker than Moto X 2 gen . Both are still better than my Galaxy S6 edge tough.
Camera: Did little testing, but , pictures are definitely better but still fell like the same motorola camera, little lost to focus sometimes, little bit slow responses and movement , not a deal breaker.
Functions : Don't know if i didn't make the settings right but, i lost the ability to " chop " to flash light , only have the twist to open the camera , and it seems to miss sometimes , like it is less sensitive , unlike my moto x 2gen that rarely misses it.
Basic Stuff: Call quality and signal strength seems to be the same , and by the same i mean good . The loudspeaker sounds as loud as before, still mono, the stereo speakers for the X style would be more for quality i think ,than loudness.
............... Will update more later .
I would like to know the average SOT from 100 to 10% after you installed all the apps that you normally use with all the push notifications enabled.
- Can you please perform a multitouch test ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=multitouchpro.tests&hl=de
LG G4 had issues there, just to make sure.
- How would you compare the performance of the phone to the Nexus 5 (in case you have a N5 or a friend of yours) ?
Please no benchmark test rather then real word testing
Thank you in advance
hOtttBRA said:
I would like to know the average SOT from 100 to 10% after you installed all the apps that you normally use with all the push notifications enabled.
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I will post , my phone are always the worst for battery life coz i do go around the city very much and we have a lot of speed cameras, so i use an app that turns gps on when i'm driving, so my day to day average on gps usage of battery is around 2 to 3h . I do a lot of Bluetooth streaming from spotify and some google maps to get around, high brightness, lot and lots os instant messages . So if a get thru the entire day without charging the phone will be great and for most people will get much better results, normally i always keep it charged, i do have car charger and power banks, but for today i will not use it to see how far it goes.
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- Can you please perform a multitouch test ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=multitouchpro.tests&hl=de
LG G4 had issues there, just to make sure.
All right, my lg g3 had the same issue, also my OnePLus one too. i Will do the test.
- How would you compare the performance of the phone to the Nexus 5 (in case you have a N5 or a friend of yours) ?
Please no benchmark test rather then real word testing
Well, i had a nexus 5, but it's been long time since then. But even if for multitask the Moto X Play performance was lower than nexus still worth the extra juice , and better camera.
Thank you in advance
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Thanks for the info!
I'd be optimistic about general performance, considering it's still on early release software and it's already faster than a gs6 edge
Apart from the missing IR, do you feel like it's a big step back from the x 2014 in handling moto features? Or is it the same (great) experience?
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Thanks for the info!
I'd be optimistic about general performance, considering it's still on early release software and it's already faster than a gs6 edge
Apart from the missing IR, do you feel like it's a big step back from the x 2014 in handling moto features? Or is it the same (great) experience?
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Well, i don't know if it's actually faster than SG6 edge, but it sure feels like it is, touchwiz fault i guess. yeah i do miss the IR sometimes too. For me it feels like a little step back in those great features motorola brought to us, maybe they are saving some of those for Moto X style so the style get more appealing. I'm all in for the style except for the screen size , i'm still adjusting to the X play.
Here we are, my first full battery cycle . I'm sure you will get better SOT than me, my gps usage was about 3h , spotify , bluetooth , android wear, high brightness , apps updates , downloads etc.. and this is what i got.
Safe to say you are a power user lol. Thats pretty impressive if you ask me.
Does it have gyroscope and fm radio?
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
Anyway, could you please post a screenshot of the sensor page of CPU-Z?
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
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You sure you dont have to enable it?
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Does it have gyroscope and fm radio?
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Yes it does, i think its used to activate the camera twist thing. FM radio only with the earphones , but yes it does.
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
Anyway, could you please post a screenshot of the sensor page of CPU-Z?
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Yeah, strange, i did a full restore today and didn't restore any backup, fresh start , still missing . When you go to the Moto Gestures on X 2 gen, it shows the animation for twist to camera and chop to flash, in moto x play it only shows twist to camera, and it's harder to activate it on Moto x Play than it is on moto x 2 gen . I'm playing now with both phones, and X play definitely shows a little lag typing with Swift keyboard and scrolling down the notification panel , i'm noticing faster responses from moto x 2 gen. Will test the CPU-Z sensors later.
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Yes it does, i think its used to activate the camera twist thing. FM radio only with the earphones , but yes it does.
Yeah, strange, i did a full restore today and didn't restore any backup, fresh start , still missing . When you go to the Moto Gestures on X 2 gen, it shows the animation for twist to camera and chop to flash, in moto x play it only shows twist to camera, and it's harder to activate it on Moto x Play than it is on moto x 2 gen . I'm playing now with both phones, and X play definitely shows a little lag typing with Swift keyboard and scrolling down the notification panel , i'm noticing faster responses from moto x 2 gen. Will test the CPU-Z sensors later.
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Someone else posted a screenshot of CPU-Z on this forum. The phone does not have a gyroscope. The gestures are activated via a specific dual accelerator (like on the Moto G and the Moto E 2015.)
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
Anyway, could you please post a screenshot of the sensor page of CPU-Z?
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Well, i think they need to update then, coz Moto X play is missing some other features too , like the chrome extension app from motorola.
See the screen shots from Moto Action on Moto X 2 gen , and the avaliable action for Moto X Play.
This might sound crazy but I have yet to see the chop twice for flash on the Play and also if you look at the white model of the Style and Play you dont see the blue IR Sensors on the Play which would suggest you wouldnt have the wave to activate display features.
And also if you look at this pic theres no chop sensor?
http://postimg.org/image/5b7teftc9/
Oh and as I typed the first bit I decided to research it quickly and I seen this, .... (havent had time to read it properly tbh but doesnt look good.)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3hzu9v/the_moto_x_play_is_missing_some_sensors_for/
help me please
help me, deleted unintentionally stock rom moto x play system! I need a stock rom zip!
BTW if anyone knows the G3 daily performance, how would you compare both?
G3 is my first Android device (excluding Wildfire as it was an awful experience) and I'm used to WP smoothness. With G3, I was generally happy with the performance but alt-tabbing/dealing with multiple wasn't as smooth.
Do you think the performance on X Play is on par or better? with performance I mean UI fluidity, lag, stutter, app switch quickness etc. I don't really care with benchmarks/games/first loading time.
801 might be stronger then 615 but the software optimization might create wonders
Is there Miracast support? Screen mirroring to Smart TV wireressly without Chromecast
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I need rom stock zip moto x play xt1563
I need rom stock cell Moto X Play XT1563! Someone could post the link of stock rom to download it! ???
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This might sound crazy but I have yet to see the chop twice for flash on the Play and also if you look at the white model of the Style and Play you dont see the blue IR Sensors on the Play which would suggest you wouldnt have the wave to activate display features.
And also if you look at this pic theres no chop sensor?
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The play definitely does not have the four ir sensors. Anyway it has a "chop chop" sensor. On CPU-Z is listed as "chop chop gesture" (the last item in the list). Probably it they will update moto actions to support it.
With all I learned, I'm starting to wonder if I should return the phone and get another one. Right now, I'm looking at the LG G3 because it is in my price range and it has a decent camera. Will I get any performances issues with a G3?
Not if you get a D855 with 32GB and 3GB ram. I prefer moto android though. I was really keen on moving to the Play but having had a moto g with memory management issues I'm really disappointed to see that there are issues on the Play with 2GB ram. I need background tasks like music and pebble to keep running.
What issues? Came from an LG G3, much better battery life on the X Play. G3 stuck back on older Android, camera is ok but not great the X Play's is miles better though. Cyanogenmod 12.1 on the G3 was good though, very smooth but the 2k screen is a real battery hog!
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What issues? Came from an LG G3, much better battery life on the X Play. G3 stuck back on older Android, camera is ok but not great the X Play's is miles better though. Cyanogenmod 12.1 on the G3 was good though, very smooth but the 2k screen is a real battery hog!
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I'm also coming from G3 and:
-- the camera on Moto X Play is from comparable to worse. Ran some tests yesterday and in very low light, the LG G3 takes a better picture most of the time.
-- the pefromance of Moto is also from comparable to worse. The UI stutters just like in LG G3. Moto doesn't have so many pixels and a heavy skin to render, but it still stutters.
-- the screen of The Moto is comparable.
-- finally, the battery life is much better on the Moto X Play, even though LG's software has no iddle drain, it is still worse.
Cyanogenmod was always a little bit bugy on the G3. From the camera performance to the issues with double tap to wake.
If you care about the stock Android, a better battery life, and a front facing speaker go with the Moto X Play,
if you don't then LG G3 is a better phone in all other respects.
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Not if you get a D855 with 32GB and 3GB ram. I prefer moto android though. I was really keen on moving to the Play but having had a moto g with memory management issues I'm really disappointed to see that there are issues on the Play with 2GB ram. I need background tasks like music and pebble to keep running.
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Even the 3GB model of the G3 has memory management issues. It kills music while using chrome. And performance overall are not that good.
Don't forget the 3.10 kernel guys
So? I should stick with the Moto X Play unless I want to invest a substantial amount of money into a real flagship? I guess I'll wait until Motorola give us the source code of the kernel, then it will be easier to develop a custom kernel. What I do love from Motorola is the bare to the bone UI (almost pure AOSP) and the tweaks they added are really useful. By example, the phone detect when I'm driving my car and it can read for me the SMS I receive.
Never had any performance issues with my g3. Stock with Nova launcher. Just hate all LG's tweaks. What about the price reduced nexus 6?
If I had the option of returning my X Play, I would take it back and get the Nexus 5 2015 later this month. Looks like it will be a great phone and it will definitely have plenty of ROM/mod support.
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If I had the option of returning my X Play, I would take it back and get the Nexus 5 2015 later this month. Looks like it will be a great phone and it will definitely have plenty of ROM/mod support.
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Problem is Nexus 5 2015 will have much smaller battery. Only 16/32 GB models with no SD card.
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Problem is Nexus 5 2015 will have much smaller battery. Only 16/32 GB models with no SD card.
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Just about every other phone has a smaller battery than this one, yet most manage to do just fine. Honestly, the "massive" battery life on the X Play hasn't impressed me at all. For a battery that is 40% larger than my previous phones, I'm only getting about 20% more battery life out of it. 2700mAh is still better than many of my previous phones, so I don't see it being a problem with the new Nexus 5.
I stream my music and store my pictures in the cloud, so memory size isn't a concern for me either.
Just picked up a Moto X play and am contemplating returning it as well. Maybe it's just me, but this screen is very washed out.
Might look into motomaker 3rd gen G and still save some $$$
I was pretty set on purchasing a Moto X Play... until I started hearing about lag/stuttering issues. I was drawn to the Moto X Play mostly because of stock android in the hope that it would provide a fast and slick interface. I'm not interested in much gaming on my phone, more so just listening to podcasts, browsing the web and social media, checking emails etc. - light stuff. Would a user like me have much issue with the X Play's stuttering?
If so, would I be better off just getting this year's Moto G? I am a poor student so I'm limited to buying a phone on contract and nowhere in the UK seems to offer the 16GB G with the 2GB of RAM, so I am also fearful of seeing stuttering on the 1GB version. It would also be sad to give up the 1080p screen and beast of battery that comes with the Moto X Play.
Any advice?
I've got both. While my wife's G is overall more smooth in any given moment, the X isn't bad in the least. I feel like with kernel development, the X will be amazing. That being said though, I also have a 2014 X, and there isn't much kernel development over there either. The G looks like it has more support overall. I haven't had any performance issues on the 1gb G, just apps being killed off. No micro lavs like I experience at times on the X.
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I am eagerly waiting for professional reviews like from high level Anandtech (and new Nexxii) first. Read too often the stuttering is caused by too weak graphical chip of the SD 615 for 1080p. If true software ain't gonna fix that.
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I was pretty set on purchasing a Moto X Play... until I started hearing about lag/stuttering issues. I was drawn to the Moto X Play mostly because of stock android in the hope that it would provide a fast and slick interface. I'm not interested in much gaming on my phone, more so just listening to podcasts, browsing the web and social media, checking emails etc. - light stuff. Would a user like me have much issue with the X Play's stuttering?
If so, would I be better off just getting this year's Moto G? I am a poor student so I'm limited to buying a phone on contract and nowhere in the UK seems to offer the 16GB G with the 2GB of RAM, so I am also fearful of seeing stuttering on the 1GB version. It would also be sad to give up the 1080p screen and beast of battery that comes with the Moto X Play.
Any advice?
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Hi, I've got the Play for almost a week now and so far I've been overall very satisfied with the performance. Apart from those micro lags for some milliseconds, the UI is fluid when swithcing between apps, opening apps, etc. (I previously had an Xperia SP with 2x1.7Ghz SD S4 and that thing really lagged.) The screen and the camera is great and the battery easily lasts a day even with some video playing, LTE, GPS usage, ADB over Wifi and browsing. I also choose the Play over the G for the better screen, battery, NFC and more RAM (although didn't try the G personally), so I would recommend the Play. Also it already has TWRP and can be tweaked with Xposed.
I had my X play for a day the I packed it sent it back. I was so enthusiastic about this phone because it clicked all the boxes . I don't do hardcore gaming. Media consumption, music, you tube browsing, reading apps that's it.
Phone was scattering everywhere browser, google play store, google drive, then I uploaded facebook and it was stuttering there too. I had updated all apps but still the same. Then I reset to factory default my phone an still had the same issues.
At times it would get smoother but than minutes later all would go back to nasty. So far my Moto G experience, at the shop , 1GB version appeared to be much smoother. I guess for your needs G is the way to go JUST if you go 2GB version then you entering some other pretty awesome phone market. Let's be honest Moto G 2GB is expensive phone, it's not budget anymore. In UK is £209. Update just checked Moto website they dropped it to £189. Now even more love for G. By the way have you considered any other brand?
I am stuck between Moto X Play and Moto X 2014... Can someone differentiate them on basis of Processor and what effect it has on phone,,
I have seen benchmarks of 615 to be quite close of 801, i know 615 overheats in other phones but is it as bad as non underclocked 810 heat
I Need Battery To Last Me atleast a day Without much problems (Not very heaviest of the users) and a Good Camera
Not much gaming fan although I do some occasionally
Both of Them are available at near Same price Here.. So anyone with experience of both can help me out??
I'd take the 2014 easily
Go for Moto X play
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Go for Moto X play
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Why
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Coz its new , its better , better cam n battery , performance is fine , gaming is really good , and it will get more updates
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Coz its new , its better , better cam n battery , performance is fine , gaming is really good , and it will get more updates
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Isn't the processor in the 2014 X better?
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Isn't the processor in the 2014 X better?
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So a phone isn't just about processor .. its over all and play is better anyday
Currently the Moto X Play is much better with battery life but generally feels less responsive and slower. The screen on the Moto X 2 will in fact degrade after a year. I've had mine for that long and its not even close to what it used to be, not to mention amoled burn in. It's up to you really, I would probably still choose the Play even though it feels noticeably slower right now. We'll have to see if Motorola fixes that in the next update, I god damn hope so. My Moto X 2013 felt more responsive than this phone.
Apologies for the length of this reply. TL;DR - Moto G 3rd gen vs. Moto X Play - taking into account the extra $200 for the X Play, which would you recommend and why?
Longer version:
Had an accident with my Moto G2 last week (fell in the sink and fried the motherboard) and am now looking for a new phone.
I could get the Moto G for $0 or the X Play for ~ $200 (both carrier locked).
The main issues I had with my old Moto G2 were: a) the RAM; b) Internal Storage. I was constantly losing my audio playback (podcast) when running Waze simultaneously driving in the car and the phone just often seemed laggy in general. Also, I was constantly running out of space to install apps (particularly due to a couple of very large games).
Given that the new Moto G has the same 1 GB of RAM and 8 GB of internal storage (at least here in Canada; would have really appreciated the 2/16 option that they have in the US), would I be likely to experience the same frustrations or would the performance be significantly better due to: a) better CPU; and b) Marshmallow [I was running Lollipop 5.0.2 on the old phone], which allows for use of SD card as internal storage?
My concerns with the X Play (other than the additional cost) are:
1) Durability - the Moto G has enhanced water resistance and is easier to grip (from what I've read)
2) Size - Moto X Play seems larger but I'm not sure how much of a difference it would be coming from the G2 ...
Any suggestions?
Personally I would never go back to a 1 GB phone (I used to have the original 2013 Moto G). Perhaps performance is better now with the 3rd Gen but having used 2 GB... I also had an Xperia Z from 2013 but it had 2 GB as well and there were no issues with apps closing like I had on my G.
So my pick would be the Play. However, what other choices do you have for that price?
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Personally I would never go back to a 1 GB phone (I used to have the original 2013 Moto G). Perhaps performance is better now with the 3rd Gen but having used 2 GB... I also had an Xperia Z from 2013 but it had 2 GB as well and there were no issues with apps closing like I had on my G.
So my pick would be the Play. However, what other choices do you have for that price?
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Hi! Thanks for the quick reply.
Here are the devices available from my carrier (Wind Mobile) at these price points (price is what I would pay out of pocket - rest is covered by $250 tab):
Galaxy S4 - $200
Xperia C5 Ultra - $150
LG G Stylo - $100
Xperia M4 Aqua - $50
Ascend G7 - $50
Moto G (3rd) - $0
HTC Desire 626s - $0
Galaxy Grand Prime - $0
Thanks again!
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Personally I would never go back to a 1 GB phone (I used to have the original 2013 Moto G). Perhaps performance is better now with the 3rd Gen but having used 2 GB... I also had an Xperia Z from 2013 but it had 2 GB as well and there were no issues with apps closing like I had on my G.
So my pick would be the Play. However, what other choices do you have for that price?
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As a follow-up, do you think it would be worth paying an additional $200 for the extra 1 GB of RAM?
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As a follow-up, do you think it would be worth paying an additional $200 for the extra 1 GB of RAM?
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I myself would pay for the extra RAM. My thought would be that memory requirements of both Android and apps is only going to increase and I try to keep my phones as long as possible.
I'm also on Wind so that list of potential phones looks familiar. My personal choice is still the Play.
I've also read that some shipments of Wind's X Plays are already SIM-unlocked but I don't have another carrier SIM to verify that mine is. I do know my Moto G was sold by Wind and it was unlocked because they checked it for me in-store.
You might want to try it out in-store to see if you are ok with the larger size. I don't mind it and prefer it because I'm getting old and my eyes aren't as good as they used to be.
Hi - I decided to try the Play but figured it might be worth a quick phone call - just got off the phone with Wind Loyalty and they added another $150 to the tab, so the phone only cost $49!
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Hi - I decided to try the Play but figured it might be worth a quick phone call - just got off the phone with Wind Loyalty and they added another $150 to the tab, so the phone only cost $49!
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Wow, nice. That makes it a much easier decision then, huh? Nice job, I think you'll be happy with it.
The extra 1gb surely will make a lot of difference. 1gb ram phone is only good if you could put custom rom in it.
I have both devices (and develop CM and my kernel for both) and happen to be on Wind Mobile too. Since they've added some extra to your tab, I suppose your decision has become easier.
If you care about the camera at all, the lux camera is certainly a major improvement over osprey (though osprey is not bad by any means). While the image processing with both the Motorola stock camera app and the CM camera are not up to iPhone standards (colours and dynamic range), detail on lux is amazing in good lighting.
Performance wise, lux (the X Play) will certainly be better, due to the RAM, and also the more powerful processor. Single core performance is a better on lux (more than the difference in clock speeds would indicate, since lux is using faster memory and higher clocked internal busses). The GPU on lux is also much more powerful than that on osprey. I don't know if you care about gaming performance, but lux would certainly be much better than osprey (triple the frame rate for heavy things). One area where you won't notice much difference is UI fluidity. Both run android smoothly without much lag or stutter. Marshmallow is better than Lollipop 5.1 which is better than Lollipop 5.0.
Lux also has a huge battery (but a more power hungry display and processor) - I get around 5-6 hours screen time on osprey, and 7-8 hours on lux.
One area where osprey has an edge is waterproofing (and perhaps overall durability). I've thrown my osprey into the water at a beach when showing off to family and left it in the water for a few minutes. No issues when I did that (though it's not something I recommend obviously). I would not do the same for lux, since it is not waterproof. If you have a habit of dropping your phone, osprey may also be more likely to survive because of its smaller screen.
In terms of in hand quality feel, lux is better than osprey. The body feels more solid, and the dimple at the back of the phone feels nicer. The back cover of my osprey creaks a bit when pressing the edge in some places, and that irks me somewhat. However, neither can match the quality feel of the 2nd gen Moto X (victara).
Size wise, lux is obviously bigger than osprey. Whether or not that's a good thing is down to personal preference. I found lux huge when I bought it (I came from a first gen Moto X). However, I got used to it and now find its size to be normal. However, I still like the in hand feeling of going back to a smaller phone sometimes.
Development wise, I'd consider them about the same. I'm one of the main developers for both devices, though lux is my daily driver right now. The osprey port of CM13 matured a bit sooner than my lux port, but they are both built from a common code base we are using for the entire MSM8916 family.
If there is leftover stock of the previous (2nd gen, victara) Moto X, I would also strongly consider that. Victara has better build quality than either of these, and is significantly faster than either of these. The victara camera is about the same as osprey. The main weakness of victara is battery life. It gives me around 4 hours of screen time.
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I have both devices (and develop CM and my kernel for both) and happen to be on Wind Mobile too. Since they've added some extra to your tab, I suppose your decision has become easier.
If you care about the camera at all, the lux camera is certainly a major improvement over osprey (though osprey is not bad by any means). While the image processing with both the Motorola stock camera app and the CM camera are not up to iPhone standards (colours and dynamic range), detail on lux is amazing in good lighting.
Performance wise, lux (the X Play) will certainly be better, due to the RAM, and also the more powerful processor. Single core performance is a better on lux (more than the difference in clock speeds would indicate, since lux is using faster memory and higher clocked internal busses). The GPU on lux is also much more powerful than that on osprey. I don't know if you care about gaming performance, but lux would certainly be much better than osprey (triple the frame rate for heavy things). One area where you won't notice much difference is UI fluidity. Both run android smoothly without much lag or stutter. Marshmallow is better than Lollipop 5.1 which is better than Lollipop 5.0.
Lux also has a huge battery (but a more power hungry display and processor) - I get around 5-6 hours screen time on osprey, and 7-8 hours on lux.
One area where osprey has an edge is waterproofing (and perhaps overall durability). I've thrown my osprey into the water at a beach when showing off to family and left it in the water for a few minutes. No issues when I did that (though it's not something I recommend obviously). I would not do the same for lux, since it is not waterproof. If you have a habit of dropping your phone, osprey may also be more likely to survive because of its smaller screen.
In terms of in hand quality feel, lux is better than osprey. The body feels more solid, and the dimple at the back of the phone feels nicer. The back cover of my osprey creaks a bit when pressing the edge in some places, and that irks me somewhat. However, neither can match the quality feel of the 2nd gen Moto X (victara).
Size wise, lux is obviously bigger than osprey. Whether or not that's a good thing is down to personal preference. I found lux huge when I bought it (I came from a first gen Moto X). However, I got used to it and now find its size to be normal. However, I still like the in hand feeling of going back to a smaller phone sometimes.
Development wise, I'd consider them about the same. I'm one of the main developers for both devices, though lux is my daily driver right now. The osprey port of CM13 matured a bit sooner than my lux port, but they are both built from a common code base we are using for the entire MSM8916 family.
If there is leftover stock of the previous (2nd gen, victara) Moto X, I would also strongly consider that. Victara has better build quality than either of these, and is significantly faster than either of these. The victara camera is about the same as osprey. The main weakness of victara is battery life. It gives me around 4 hours of screen time.
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Squid,
Thanks very much for the very thorough and detailed review! My two concerns with the X Play are the durability and size but I don't think that these outweigh the other benefits vis a vis osprey. Do you think the size would be a significant factor coming from the 2nd gen Moto G?
Thanks also for the feedback on the 2nd gen Moto X. Their website no longer includes last year's model but I can drop by my local store to see if they have it in stock. Only thing is, they may not apply the additional tab as that was only available if I ordered through the loyalty department over the phone ...
There are several Victaras available used on Kijiji but do you think it's worth paying $250 for a used victara over $50 for a new lux?
Also, the victara lacked a microsd card which is something that I'd like to have ...
nird12 said:
Squid,
Thanks very much for the very thorough and detailed review! My two concerns with the X Play are the durability and size but I don't think that these outweigh the other benefits vis a vis osprey. Do you think the size would be a significant factor coming from the 2nd gen Moto G?
Thanks also for the feedback on the 2nd gen Moto X. Their website no longer includes last year's model but I can drop by my local store to see if they have it in stock. Only thing is, they may not apply the additional tab as that was only available if I ordered through the loyalty department over the phone ...
There are several Victaras available used on Kijiji but do you think it's worth paying $250 for a used victara over $50 for a new lux?
Also, the victara lacked a microsd card which is something that I'd like to have ...
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For $250 used victara vs. $50 new lux, I'd say definitely get the new lux. If you can convince them to apply the same tab to a new lux or a new-old-stock victara, that's a tougher decision.
If you want a big battery and great camera (and MicroSD), go for lux. If you want faster performance and like the sleek metal frame of the victara, go for it. If you are concerned about water damage and want a device you can abuse without feeling too bad, go for osprey.
And if you are insane like me and money is no concern, buy all three. And heck, why not throw in a surnia too
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For $250 used victara vs. $50 new lux, I'd say definitely get the new lux. If you can convince them to apply the same tab to a new lux or a new-old-stock victara, that's a tougher decision.
If you want a big battery and great camera (and MicroSD), go for lux. If you want faster performance and like the sleek metal frame of the victara, go for it. If you are concerned about water damage and want a device you can abuse without feeling too bad, go for osprey.
And if you are insane like me and money is no concern, buy all three. And heck, why not throw in a surnia too
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Damn that are a lot of Moto's
or just get the X Force. I believe it has all the features the lux, victara and osprey combined.
My missus has a 2GB 3rd gen Moto G and i would rather have my MXP, better screen, better battery, better camera, better audio.