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Phone comparison/alternatives to Ri

After spamming the 4.4 update thread with phone comparison things, I decided to open a new thread.
Here we can compare other devices with the RAZR I and debate about stuff like that.
Now I will start.
After getting more and more problems with my RAZR I I decided to buy a new phone. I was searching for several weeks and now I have a moto X.(in Germany, bought via eBay, using Verizon KK ROM with fully supported German language)
What I have noticed so far:
-the X perfectly fits in your hand with a acceptable weight
-the battery consumption is better than the Ri's ( I get easy 20h of (my) normal use; Ri got only ~17h)
-the screen have a much higher resolution
-the X have a better performance, up to now I doesn't had any lags.
-the voice from outgoing calls is very clear, a bit better than the Ri; the voice quality of incoming calls depends on the calling phone
-both cameras of the X are better than the Ri's, but it have also problems when the light is low
-active display and touchless control are pretty neat
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Do we think the RAZR I will get 4.4
I hope moto let us know soon.
All the best
Moley
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I can't accept no slot for microSD on moto g and x. Even new version of RAZR m, droid mini there is no slot
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I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.

bongofred said:
I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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Same here, I also think that Moto X is currently the best phone on the market but still little to big for me.
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bongofred said:
I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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I agree entirely.
I picked up a G over Christmas to cheer myself up a bit and to find out what all the fuss was about - is this phone really as good as they say for such a ridiculously low price? Well in my opinion yes, and more.
I'd had a number of frustrations with my XT890: random lagginess, certains apps not being compatible, battery life not being quite as good as I expected, amongst others. The one thing I absolutely love about the '90 though is the form factor and build quality, so IMO how does the G stack up against it? Well it's now very much my main phone.
Overall I find it's quicker and smoother with nowhere near as many lags, although whether this is down to JB 4.3, the chip, or a combination of both I have no idea, but for me it works better. The build quality is exemplary. It doesn't in any way look or feel like a plastic phone and is a rock solid build, which is a lesson Samsung should learn and I'm not talking about their budget end either. Battery life is better, beautiful screen, and couldn't be happier. True, the camera's c*** but I'm not going to use it anyway,so a big thumbs up!

Thank you for the voice quality comparison on the Moto X that is great info!!!! Can someone comment on the same thing regarding the G?

adddaamo said:
Same here, I also think that Moto X is currently the best phone on the market but still little to big for me.
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But it's only the X's screen size which is bigger than moto G's. These phone have nearly the same shape.
And the moto x doesn't feel so big.
To the problem with no SD-card-slot:
Yes that was the one point annoying me, but to be serious, even the nexus phones haven't such a slot and Google presents how they think a android phone have to look like with this phones, so I think the sd-card-slot will die out slowly.
So I bought a developer edition with 32GB of storage. That is enough for me, I've used the RAZR I with the internal 8GB plus a 16GB SD card and even that was okay.
On the other hand we have to look at the battery consumption. A device which have to handle a internal and a external storage needs more energy. Also are SD cards mostly slower than the build in storage, which means that we lose performance.
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In my opinion the SD card slot is only needed, if the phone has insufficient internal memory. 16 GB is just not enough for today's needs. At least for me it is not. 32 and plus of storage is a must have. That's why I didn't get a new nexus device or will not get the Moto G.
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I agree on the storage issue. My iPhone 5s has 64GB and only has about 20 gigs left. It will probably be quite full in a year or two. Why phones aren't offered with 128 or heck even 512 gigs is beyond me. They are the main computers in many of our lives now. They can charge pretty much anything they want for it and a lot of us will pay.

the asus zenPhone 5'@720p, atom z2580, 8gb + sd card, android 4.3, update to 4.4, for only 150 U$S its really the moto g killer.

I found the LG Nexus 4 a great replacement for my old Motorola Razr i, and it's even cheaper here on my country...

Moto G
I'm thinking about to sell my Razr i for 200€ and buy the Moto G for 169€ or even the one for 199€. My Razr i looks like freshly taken from the box, not one scratch, nothing. And there is a 64GB memory card with it. If I install the stock ROM then there is only the warning about the unlocked bootloader that reminds you that it is a used device.
I bought the 64GB card to listen to music, back when I was going to school but now it's a different situation and I don't have the time to listen to music on my smartphone, especially since I have a car now. And even if I wanna listen to music on my phone I think 16GB or even 8GB would be enough.

xNeo92x said:
I'm thinking about to sell my Razr i for 200€ and buy the Moto G for 169€ or even the one for 199€. My Razr i looks like freshly taken from the box, not one scratch, nothing. And there is a 64GB memory card with it. If I install the stock ROM then there is only the warning about the unlocked bootloader that reminds you that it is a used device.
I bought the 64GB card to listen to music, back when I was going to school but now it's a different situation and I don't have the time to listen to music on my smartphone, especially since I have a car now. And even if I wanna listen to music on my phone I think 16GB or even 8GB would be enough.
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always aim for more, not less, better wait for the asus zen Phones

YaPeL said:
always aim for more, not less, better wait for the asus zen Phones
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Or wait what Motorola is going to present next week in the UK.
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I'm really not trying to troll here, just relaying my experience over the last two months:
I've been on Android for 3 years. Before, I was using WindowsMobile 6, and version 5 before that, until Microsoft stupidly killed that incredibly diverse ecosystem and made me and millions of others jump to Android. I had a clamshell Razr V3i before that that was an astonishingly good and beautifully hackable phone for the time - it was a great web browser with opera mini and I could email from it too, fantastic voice quality that could be tuned with a hex editor, and excellent radio/reception. It took a microSD so I used it as an MP3 player too. Moto typically has great build quality and radios though they definitely have released some total junk phones along the way too, I think I had a V551(??) that was dog poop, and several moto phones the camera broke on for no reason, usually a hardware failure like one of the internal lenses becoming dislodged, even if the phone was never dropped.
My *personal opinion* is that Android was most stable, useful and hackable at version 2.3 and has had been becoming progressively less stable and ever more locked down since. I have a Nexus 7 that I just leave stock and let it autoupdate whenever it feels like it to see what the latest edition of Android and latest versions of all my apps always look like; I've watched in horror as android and the Android app ecosystem has become a bug ridden laggy crashy malware adware spyware filled unholy mess over the last 12 months, as bad as Windows 98/XP ever was. Previously, as an android user I had always felt a little bit... i don't know... "more savvy" than iPhone users because Android was (supposedly) less expensive and I could make it do anything I wanted. But with the update to 4.1 on my RAZR i, I could no longer WIFI tether (it could tether with 4.0 but then Moto locked out tethering HARD and no one has figured a way around it) and that just made me really POed.
Then I also thought about it and realized I had EIGHT android devices and I was spending a ton of money always buying new android phones because that was usually the only way I could run the latest OS. I've for three years always been waiting/hoping that I'll get the next version of android when it is released, and usually all my hopes were dashed. Yes I did all the cyanagenmod/etc reflashing stuff for a while but that's always a little risky and after 10 or so flashes constantly trying out roll your own OS turns into a real time consumer, often gives me new bugs when I was trying eliminate other old bugs, and for some devices, namely the RAZRi, sometimes just not an option. My original Moto RAZR has a locked bootloader that was never really worked around. I was getting so sick of waiting around all of the time.
And I was noticing that there were people with iPhones many years old still using them, still happy with them. I played with a friends iPhone 3GS a year ago and was impressed with how smooth it was even then with supposedly far less hardware than my RAZR, and how happy she still was with it - and I noticed how aggravated I was with my RAZR.
So WTF, two months ago I bought a new iPhone 5s 64gb. It was Very
Expensive... but not really compared to the highest end Moto X, which was the other phone I was considering.
At first it was super annoying, not intuitive at all coming from android, lots of the design decisions seemed stupid. But I stuck with it, finally got used to everything about 3 weeks ago, and now two months after purchase I can say from my heart, and my head, it just blows Android out of the water right at this time. It is ROCK SOLID in hardware build and software stability, an order of magnitude above any android devices. I just can't stress enough how stable ios is compared to android. It took me many weeks to figure out all the workarounds I needed to do stuff like tethering, swype, etc, but now it does everything I can do on android.
I have two phones (work/personal), and this week I needed a second phone to replace my Razr i (which now has a new issue of blurry focus camera that I fix by banging it with my hand... i never dropped it... sigh), so I I just bought a used perfect condition 64gb Iphone 5 for $400. Goodbye Android for now.
There are hundreds of teensy little software and hardware design decisions in the iPhone that just make it so *pleasant* to use all the time. It makes all versions of android seem so rough and unpolished when I use my other android devices.
In the long run I think the iPhones will be either a wash cost wise, or maybe a little cheaper because now I can instead of buying a new Android phone every few months in hopes of finally having one that is solid and stable, I'll likely keep these iPhones for 2-3+ years and I'm guaranteed years of the most recent OS, available as soon as announced. But cost aside, ios is just a completely stress free experience that lets me get on with life.
Oh one last thing, the responsiveness of the iPhone is *phenomenal* I read a few months ago this is because the electronic hardware itself for the touchscreen has about 1/3rd the lag time between touching the screen, and the OS getting the signal. It makes the display feel really really good all the time. Now when I use any android touch screen it just feels so slow and annoying. Battery life is at least double the RAZR i in my experience so far, mostly because there is never any crap running in the background that I can't turn off, like is always happening in android as soon as I add more than three apps.
I'm not an apple aficionado at all; as soon as I find something better than iPhone I'll jump ship immediately, but as far as I can tell iPhone 5s is the best there is right now.
tl;dr: the iPhone 5 and 5s are mindblowingly good compared to the hell and heartbreak that android has turned onto. YMMV

Unfortunately, I must agree. Apple is doing so many things better with iOS than Google with Android. I always liked Android for openness, community, tweaking abilities ... currently I even write soft for Android at work ... but still, I'm always waiting for new version of Android that will fix problems from current version, I'm looking for custom ROMS that will eliminate constant lag and solve other problems.
I liked Google because it was the best software company in the world, company that ideology I liked, but now ... it's changing. They've still got good software but ads are getting more aggressive than ever, Android is getting more and more closed, and it will be fully closed in future, so maybe it's time to start searching for something new. But anyway I think that Android will be the most popular OS for very, very long time.
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Yeah, I have to say, that you have right with much things you've said, but you couldn't forget that iOS is build by apple, so they can perfectly fit the software to the hardware and vice versa. Android is open source and Google couldn't specify it for one device, it have to be as much stable as possible for a lot of devices, that is the problem. That's the same with every open source os.
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Well, I just made the switch from Razr I to the Moto G, just because I was offered a good price for my Razr (pristine condition) and couldn't resist.
Wasn't expecting much really, but it actually feels like a good upgrade. The screen is TONS better and with Kitkat the menu buttons now are completely hidden in most apps, making the screen really 4.5 inches. The overall feel is faster, especially with apps like Maps and Chrome. Games run faster as well, for example Asphalt 8 plays perfect on high settings, while on the Razr I will run only on low.
The downsides are plastic instead of the metal and kevlar on the Razr, the screen is not edge to edge and the camera is worse (also no 1080p video).
But for me the bigger and better display and the faster performance are worth it.

I currently think about getting a Sony Z1 Compact.

Nexus 4 user -- curious about G experience

As mentioned, I'm a Nexus 4 owner. My phone has developed hardware problems though, and I'm looking at replacing it -- mainly focusing on the Moto G and E.
I'm not a hardcore phone user; other than communications mostly use it for music (Google, Pandora, Youtube), light reading, occasional surfing in line, and a single non-graphics intensive game. I also use my phone to double as a camera when I'm out walking and something cool comes up though, which is the main reason I'm considering the G over E. Price isn't a huge issue, but I don't see the need to buy some fancy $600 phone for my light use.
All that said, I'm not on a contract, and was wondering about the OS/experience/apps on the G/E. I've only ever been a Nexus owner, because I wanted to avoid carrier/manufacturer stuff. How easy/feasible is it to get to a version of the latest stock Android OS without any Motorola/etc. stuff on the phone -- essentially, to replicate my basic 4 interface/experience? How far behind are G OS updates behind stock Android updates? Is there any general timeline for how much longer it will continue to be updated?
Thank you for your time.

I Guess "The G" Will do Good for you....Provided you don't multi-task a lot.
There are also some Proper Exposure problems in Camera.But surely Its the Best out there in this Price range ( Except for some Phones like OnePlus One etc. but they too have their own Cons)
Regarding Updates to Android I Guess CyanogenMod 12.1 Is Good(If you want Pure Nexus Experience without Moto Stuff) but also If you prefer I guess even Stock might be Good and Stable.The CM ppl are doing a Good job in delivering Speedy Updates .The Moto G got updated to 5.1.1 really soon after the Source got released. Overall a really Good phone to Own.I think as per the Developer activity on the Phone the Moto Will receive Android M upgrade too .... Would Definitely recommend this Phone....

I also came from a nexus 4, which developed a dead touchscreen area...
The only thing I hate on this phone is the 1 gb of ram
I don't know about stock, because I always install cyanogen on the first day
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I had a N4 back to 2014.
Comparing to Moto G2, I dont notice much diference based on my light usage.
Cameras, display, battery life, speakers are better on G.
Performance, 2GB of RAM and design ( omg Nexus 4 is the sexiest phone ever) are pros for N4.
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I also came from N4. The only disadvantage is the RAM. All the rest is better on G.

I'm also eyeing on Moto G over Nexus 4 specially the dual sim version, i will use it only as back up phone, i already sold my Redmi 1s, i prefer stock android with fast OS updates.

Shoul I exchange it?

With all I learned, I'm starting to wonder if I should return the phone and get another one. Right now, I'm looking at the LG G3 because it is in my price range and it has a decent camera. Will I get any performances issues with a G3?

Not if you get a D855 with 32GB and 3GB ram. I prefer moto android though. I was really keen on moving to the Play but having had a moto g with memory management issues I'm really disappointed to see that there are issues on the Play with 2GB ram. I need background tasks like music and pebble to keep running.

What issues? Came from an LG G3, much better battery life on the X Play. G3 stuck back on older Android, camera is ok but not great the X Play's is miles better though. Cyanogenmod 12.1 on the G3 was good though, very smooth but the 2k screen is a real battery hog!
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CharlesW123 said:
What issues? Came from an LG G3, much better battery life on the X Play. G3 stuck back on older Android, camera is ok but not great the X Play's is miles better though. Cyanogenmod 12.1 on the G3 was good though, very smooth but the 2k screen is a real battery hog!
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I'm also coming from G3 and:
-- the camera on Moto X Play is from comparable to worse. Ran some tests yesterday and in very low light, the LG G3 takes a better picture most of the time.
-- the pefromance of Moto is also from comparable to worse. The UI stutters just like in LG G3. Moto doesn't have so many pixels and a heavy skin to render, but it still stutters.
-- the screen of The Moto is comparable.
-- finally, the battery life is much better on the Moto X Play, even though LG's software has no iddle drain, it is still worse.
Cyanogenmod was always a little bit bugy on the G3. From the camera performance to the issues with double tap to wake.
If you care about the stock Android, a better battery life, and a front facing speaker go with the Moto X Play,
if you don't then LG G3 is a better phone in all other respects.

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Not if you get a D855 with 32GB and 3GB ram. I prefer moto android though. I was really keen on moving to the Play but having had a moto g with memory management issues I'm really disappointed to see that there are issues on the Play with 2GB ram. I need background tasks like music and pebble to keep running.
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Even the 3GB model of the G3 has memory management issues. It kills music while using chrome. And performance overall are not that good.

Don't forget the 3.10 kernel guys

So? I should stick with the Moto X Play unless I want to invest a substantial amount of money into a real flagship? I guess I'll wait until Motorola give us the source code of the kernel, then it will be easier to develop a custom kernel. What I do love from Motorola is the bare to the bone UI (almost pure AOSP) and the tweaks they added are really useful. By example, the phone detect when I'm driving my car and it can read for me the SMS I receive.

Never had any performance issues with my g3. Stock with Nova launcher. Just hate all LG's tweaks. What about the price reduced nexus 6?

If I had the option of returning my X Play, I would take it back and get the Nexus 5 2015 later this month. Looks like it will be a great phone and it will definitely have plenty of ROM/mod support.

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If I had the option of returning my X Play, I would take it back and get the Nexus 5 2015 later this month. Looks like it will be a great phone and it will definitely have plenty of ROM/mod support.
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Problem is Nexus 5 2015 will have much smaller battery. Only 16/32 GB models with no SD card.
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Problem is Nexus 5 2015 will have much smaller battery. Only 16/32 GB models with no SD card.
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Just about every other phone has a smaller battery than this one, yet most manage to do just fine. Honestly, the "massive" battery life on the X Play hasn't impressed me at all. For a battery that is 40% larger than my previous phones, I'm only getting about 20% more battery life out of it. 2700mAh is still better than many of my previous phones, so I don't see it being a problem with the new Nexus 5.
I stream my music and store my pictures in the cloud, so memory size isn't a concern for me either.

Just picked up a Moto X play and am contemplating returning it as well. Maybe it's just me, but this screen is very washed out.
Might look into motomaker 3rd gen G and still save some $$$

I have a Moto G 3rd, thinking of getting a PLAY

Been using my Moto G 3rd gen now with Marshmellow, running very well, but noticed the X Play and liked the look of the battery size.
A few questions if I may:
1) Will I notice a performance increase
2) Whats the screen brightness like and quality compared to the Moto g
3) How much better is the battery as the Moto g 3rd is pretty good for a day or even two if I'm careful
4) I really like the new twist to start camera and double chop to start flash, is this available on the play
5) How is it for the odd game, ie asphalt 8, runs OK but load times are slow on the moto g
Any other things that make it better, my other choice is the Moto X 2014, but its an older device.

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Been using my Moto G 3rd gen now with Marshmellow, running very well, but noticed the X Play and liked the look of the battery size.
A few questions if I may:
1) Will I notice a performance increase
2) Whats the screen brightness like and quality compared to the Moto g
3) How much better is the battery as the Moto g 3rd is pretty good for a day or even two if I'm careful
4) I really like the new twist to start camera and double chop to start flash, is this available on the play
5) How is it for the odd game, ie asphalt 8, runs OK but load times are slow on the moto g
Any other things that make it better, my other choice is the Moto X 2014, but its an older device.
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1. Probably a good bit, but it mostly depends on phone usage
2. Personally I think the X Play is really bright, don't know about the G3
3. 2 days is no problem on the X Play, maybe you can get more if you get 2 with the G3
4. Only the twist to start camera is present on the X Play, you will need a custom rom for the chop chop.
5. Due to the octa core, game loading will be faster. And gaming performance will be better
Compared to the Moto X 2014, the X Play doesn't feel as premium but it has an sd card and the 21 mp camera is very good.
It is big step up from the G3 though

Thanks for that, shame about the chop chop, use it all the time. Battery life 3 days would be amazing and the camera sounds nice, might give it a go. Is Marshmallow out for the PLAY yet?

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Thanks for that, shame about the chop chop, use it all the time. Battery life 3 days would be amazing and the camera sounds nice, might give it a go. Is Marshmallow out for the PLAY yet?
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Yes, everyone has it by now

I also upgraded from the moto g 4g and performance with gaming is better.You won't notice a big difference with normal usage since the moto g already performs very smooth. Battery is the biggest plus to upgrade and you can do some better multitasking with the 2gb.

Moto X Style Very Poor SoT

I know there are a lot of threads about the poor battery life on the Moto X Style my case is a bit extreme, My SoT doesn't extend beyond 2 hours and I am considerably a heavy user but I have cut down on most apps and I use those on my Moto Z which is like my second phone, I use that at home but for college I use this Moto X Style and I have to charge it twice daily with apps like Facebook Instagram Messenger WhatsApp one or two arcade games that's it. What could I do to extend my SoT? i don't want to root my phone till I am receiving software updates. I bought this phone in January 16. There are no performance hickups either. I have disabled apps that i don't need too.

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I know there are a lot of threads about the poor battery life on the Moto X Style my case is a bit extreme, My SoT doesn't extend beyond 2 hours and I am considerably a heavy user but I have cut down on most apps and I use those on my Moto Z which is like my second phone, I use that at home but for college I use this Moto X Style and I have to charge it twice daily with apps like Facebook Instagram Messenger WhatsApp one or two arcade games that's it. What could I do to extend my SoT? i don't want to root my phone till I am receiving software updates. I bought this phone in January 16. There are no performance hickups either. I have disabled apps that i don't need too.
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Yeah... Battery life is bad... Stay on WiFi as much as possible. Social media, especially with less than excellent signal will kill the battery on this device. I get anywhere from 2-3.5 hours on a single charge with mixed WiFi and mobile data.

I don't know how but last two security updates made it worse. i used to get around 2.5-3.5 hours but recently it's hardly 2-2.5 hours with mixed 4g and wifi mostly wifi though

Uninstalling Facebook and Facebook messenger would be good for increasing battery life.

TonyStark410 said:
I don't know how but last two security updates made it worse. i used to get around 2.5-3.5 hours but recently it's hardly 2-2.5 hours with mixed 4g and wifi mostly wifi though
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I have the same issue, before updates it's was like 3,5h easily now I got around 2,5. I hope 7.0 will fix this ;\

iks8 said:
I have the same issue, before updates it's was like 3,5h easily now I got around 2,5. I hope 7.0 will fix this ;\
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I hope too till then using my moto z as my main driver but using 4g and VoLTE it's battery also pales out pretty much fast, I guess it's all moto phones which pale out fast. Either phone I need to charge twice to go through the day

Jessooca said:
Heya Ace, Question... You are always on here helping out people, I'm curious as to what you think of the someone going from the Moto X Pure to a G5 Plus. Personally I think it's either the same (in some ways) or a step backwards going to the new G5. Price wise you can get either phone for pretty much the same price; hence my question between the two phones. I actually thought they'd use a snappy 810 as the processor in the G5 Plus
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Moto G5 Plus is a great device... as far as a downgrade, that's personal opinion of what matters to you. The screen is a downgrade from QHD to fullHD and NFC is lost, but you gain Fingerprint unlock, battery life is increased 50%-100% for SOT, and the SD625 will walk all over the SD808 in terms of performance, both computational and GPU performance. Other than the display itself and the loss of NFC, the G5+ is probably a superior device in my opinion.

Jessooca said:
I was talking to a reviewer friend of mine and he said he was fairly disappointed in the camera quality though.
Superior device? Perhaps you're being generous with the word Superior. Lol
Ok then what about the G4 Plus 64gb 4gb vs G5 Plus 64gb 4gb??
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As I said... All depends on what you want.
G4+ vs G5+ boils mostly down to screen size, build quality, and battery life. G5+ has a smaller screen, but is slimmer, it also has a more efficient processor thus uses less power, but they both use the same 3000mAh battery, this gives the G5+ about a 20% battery life improvement over the G4+. The G5+ also has a metal build and seems of better quality. Camera is a wash quality wise, but reviewers state the G5+ starts up and focuses faster. The G5+ also has a faster processor and GPU.
Winner in my book, the G5+, but realize to me screen size, once it gets over 5" or 1920x1080 resolution, means nothing to me.
I do find it odd on the G5+ Lenovo opted for a smaller display... But 5.2 to 5.5 is not really significant.

Jessooca said:
Well if you get a chance, put one in each hand and your mind will change, the skinnier G5 just feels odd and looks meh. It's like holding a Blu R1 HD.
Ok there is a debate going on about the best for under $299 with many saying the Moto G5 Plus is the best bang for your buck but how can that be when the Honor 8 is $260 on Amazon and if you've used it it's hands down a perfect device under $300
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Well, where do I start with this... I have touched all these devices and more. I like the metal feel, better than plastic, again this is just personal preference. The build quality seems noticably better. I thrown them in a case regardless.
I was only making a comparison between those 2 devices, not considering other options or manufacturer's. Personally, the Honor series has great hardware, but EMUI ruins the device completely, especially with how much under the hood crap Huawei has done to prevent you from changing the launcher, seriously, is it that bad to swap a launcher? But if you can deal with the bloat of EMUI or Asus's ZenUI, they are great options in that price range, personally I think the UX ruins the devices from these makers.
Personally, I like the Axon 7 Mini at the $200 price point (BestBuy and others frequently discount it to that price, my son has one, it's great). Plus there is the Blu Vivo 5R, with 3GB RAM, 32GB storage, dual SIM, and an unlocked bootloader with nearly pure Android is nice at $169 (MicroCenter current price, the website doesn't say 5R but that is what's in the store). Or even the $129 Blu Studio XR2 is a fantastic deal.
At the $300 price point, things get interesting... The Blu Pure XR is fantastic, plus they have a few more good devices in that $200-$300 range. Don't count out Blu, the last couple years, especially the last year, they have really stepped up there game.
Pushing that, I'm big fan of the OnePlus 3T but it's pushing a bit out of price range for even high-end budget device.
Yeah... I've been looking... A lot.