Well, i just got my Moto X Play 32gb . And from less than 24h Using it, my first impressions are :
Battery : Looks very promising, it's settling down , but from a little usage you already feel like it will make thru the day easily , my mourning starts with me unplugging it, and wile making and eating my breakfast i check my e-mails, messengers , news , videos etc.. using about 1h screen time , then i put it back to charge for about 30 min. before i go out, and my Moto X 2gen and Galaxy S6 edge usually was around 70 something % after that first usage. The Moto X Play today was 91 % before plug it in , 1h 04 m of SOT .
Charging IT : Yesterday when i unboxed my Play X , it came with 60% Battery , my X 2 gen was around 70 % , i putted both on charging , both with the same cable and turbo charger , same model etc.. and the X play hit 100% 10 to 15 minutes earlier than X 2gen. so looks like it won't take forever to charge that massive battery with the Turbo Charger . One more thing : Moto X play now tells you when it's turbo charging , so now i will be able to test if those 3rd party chargers that says 2.4a or quick charge will get that message.
Display : With that extra size i definitely can see less resolution , i'm comparing with moto X 2gen, not SG6 edge. But after a few minutes using it you don't even notice anymore. The colors seem less evident, less contrast , but much better brightness and better whites. Active display lost the ir sensors so , no waving to see time. and the motion sensitivity is toned down with longer time before acting , so in the car the thing lights up less times although when at dark you see the whole display bright even the black part gets grey (typical from LCD panels ) But they should set the brightness lower for the active display , regardless what you are using for the screen ( i prefer more to the high brightness side , with amoled i go full , LCD - 80% ) .
SoC : Don't know if the processor is the cause, but i can fell some sluggishness when using multiple apps or switching apps i am tempted to say that it feels weaker than Moto X 2 gen . Both are still better than my Galaxy S6 edge tough.
Camera: Did little testing, but , pictures are definitely better but still fell like the same motorola camera, little lost to focus sometimes, little bit slow responses and movement , not a deal breaker.
Functions : Don't know if i didn't make the settings right but, i lost the ability to " chop " to flash light , only have the twist to open the camera , and it seems to miss sometimes , like it is less sensitive , unlike my moto x 2gen that rarely misses it.
Basic Stuff: Call quality and signal strength seems to be the same , and by the same i mean good . The loudspeaker sounds as loud as before, still mono, the stereo speakers for the X style would be more for quality i think ,than loudness.
............... Will update more later .
I would like to know the average SOT from 100 to 10% after you installed all the apps that you normally use with all the push notifications enabled.
- Can you please perform a multitouch test ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=multitouchpro.tests&hl=de
LG G4 had issues there, just to make sure.
- How would you compare the performance of the phone to the Nexus 5 (in case you have a N5 or a friend of yours) ?
Please no benchmark test rather then real word testing
Thank you in advance
hOtttBRA said:
I would like to know the average SOT from 100 to 10% after you installed all the apps that you normally use with all the push notifications enabled.
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I will post , my phone are always the worst for battery life coz i do go around the city very much and we have a lot of speed cameras, so i use an app that turns gps on when i'm driving, so my day to day average on gps usage of battery is around 2 to 3h . I do a lot of Bluetooth streaming from spotify and some google maps to get around, high brightness, lot and lots os instant messages . So if a get thru the entire day without charging the phone will be great and for most people will get much better results, normally i always keep it charged, i do have car charger and power banks, but for today i will not use it to see how far it goes.
DrYnternet said:
- Can you please perform a multitouch test ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=multitouchpro.tests&hl=de
LG G4 had issues there, just to make sure.
All right, my lg g3 had the same issue, also my OnePLus one too. i Will do the test.
- How would you compare the performance of the phone to the Nexus 5 (in case you have a N5 or a friend of yours) ?
Please no benchmark test rather then real word testing
Well, i had a nexus 5, but it's been long time since then. But even if for multitask the Moto X Play performance was lower than nexus still worth the extra juice , and better camera.
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Thanks for the info!
I'd be optimistic about general performance, considering it's still on early release software and it's already faster than a gs6 edge
Apart from the missing IR, do you feel like it's a big step back from the x 2014 in handling moto features? Or is it the same (great) experience?
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Thanks for the info!
I'd be optimistic about general performance, considering it's still on early release software and it's already faster than a gs6 edge
Apart from the missing IR, do you feel like it's a big step back from the x 2014 in handling moto features? Or is it the same (great) experience?
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Well, i don't know if it's actually faster than SG6 edge, but it sure feels like it is, touchwiz fault i guess. yeah i do miss the IR sometimes too. For me it feels like a little step back in those great features motorola brought to us, maybe they are saving some of those for Moto X style so the style get more appealing. I'm all in for the style except for the screen size , i'm still adjusting to the X play.
Here we are, my first full battery cycle . I'm sure you will get better SOT than me, my gps usage was about 3h , spotify , bluetooth , android wear, high brightness , apps updates , downloads etc.. and this is what i got.
Safe to say you are a power user lol. Thats pretty impressive if you ask me.
Does it have gyroscope and fm radio?
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
Anyway, could you please post a screenshot of the sensor page of CPU-Z?
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
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You sure you dont have to enable it?
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Yes it does, i think its used to activate the camera twist thing. FM radio only with the earphones , but yes it does.
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
Anyway, could you please post a screenshot of the sensor page of CPU-Z?
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Yeah, strange, i did a full restore today and didn't restore any backup, fresh start , still missing . When you go to the Moto Gestures on X 2 gen, it shows the animation for twist to camera and chop to flash, in moto x play it only shows twist to camera, and it's harder to activate it on Moto x Play than it is on moto x 2 gen . I'm playing now with both phones, and X play definitely shows a little lag typing with Swift keyboard and scrolling down the notification panel , i'm noticing faster responses from moto x 2 gen. Will test the CPU-Z sensors later.
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Yes it does, i think its used to activate the camera twist thing. FM radio only with the earphones , but yes it does.
Yeah, strange, i did a full restore today and didn't restore any backup, fresh start , still missing . When you go to the Moto Gestures on X 2 gen, it shows the animation for twist to camera and chop to flash, in moto x play it only shows twist to camera, and it's harder to activate it on Moto x Play than it is on moto x 2 gen . I'm playing now with both phones, and X play definitely shows a little lag typing with Swift keyboard and scrolling down the notification panel , i'm noticing faster responses from moto x 2 gen. Will test the CPU-Z sensors later.
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Someone else posted a screenshot of CPU-Z on this forum. The phone does not have a gyroscope. The gestures are activated via a specific dual accelerator (like on the Moto G and the Moto E 2015.)
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No chop twice to flash? That's strange, during the firsts hands on (right after the presentation) they showed it.
Anyway, could you please post a screenshot of the sensor page of CPU-Z?
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Well, i think they need to update then, coz Moto X play is missing some other features too , like the chrome extension app from motorola.
See the screen shots from Moto Action on Moto X 2 gen , and the avaliable action for Moto X Play.
This might sound crazy but I have yet to see the chop twice for flash on the Play and also if you look at the white model of the Style and Play you dont see the blue IR Sensors on the Play which would suggest you wouldnt have the wave to activate display features.
And also if you look at this pic theres no chop sensor?
http://postimg.org/image/5b7teftc9/
Oh and as I typed the first bit I decided to research it quickly and I seen this, .... (havent had time to read it properly tbh but doesnt look good.)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3hzu9v/the_moto_x_play_is_missing_some_sensors_for/
help me please
help me, deleted unintentionally stock rom moto x play system! I need a stock rom zip!
BTW if anyone knows the G3 daily performance, how would you compare both?
G3 is my first Android device (excluding Wildfire as it was an awful experience) and I'm used to WP smoothness. With G3, I was generally happy with the performance but alt-tabbing/dealing with multiple wasn't as smooth.
Do you think the performance on X Play is on par or better? with performance I mean UI fluidity, lag, stutter, app switch quickness etc. I don't really care with benchmarks/games/first loading time.
801 might be stronger then 615 but the software optimization might create wonders
Is there Miracast support? Screen mirroring to Smart TV wireressly without Chromecast
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I need rom stock zip moto x play xt1563
I need rom stock cell Moto X Play XT1563! Someone could post the link of stock rom to download it! ???
Geordie Affy said:
This might sound crazy but I have yet to see the chop twice for flash on the Play and also if you look at the white model of the Style and Play you dont see the blue IR Sensors on the Play which would suggest you wouldnt have the wave to activate display features.
And also if you look at this pic theres no chop sensor?
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The play definitely does not have the four ir sensors. Anyway it has a "chop chop" sensor. On CPU-Z is listed as "chop chop gesture" (the last item in the list). Probably it they will update moto actions to support it.
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Guys.. I'm searching the web (mostly here in xda) to make those two features work on my device, but I can't find something!
Can't we do this awesome led under the earphone works as notification led?
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Why would you want those features when you have something better, Moto Display? Pick the phone up and it will light up the device, simply unlock it like usual; no need to explain notifications I believe.
It is redudant on the X, probably you're used to it from past devices or kernels you applied before.
I could see the light if you don't keep your phone near you, but just wave your hand over the phone, just the same as the knock I had on my G3. I still had to unlock it after the knock. Just do the wave and unlock like rogeriorp said.
Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
Search moto x led in the play store
If you want a smartphone, get Android. If you want a TOY, get iphone
I do like moto display but I miss the notification light. Just got my replacement phone today so I am going to use it for a little bit and then unlock the bootloader and root so I can mess with it a bit.
I never had a phone with double tap to awake but that is a nice feature, but as has been said if you use the moto feature all you need to do is wave your hand.
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Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
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So you're basically killing the so called best phone feature of the X line up useless, and disabled it for battery life? That is not what the Moto X is about, it is about the user experience. I read it here that people thought it would be a Nexus with extra features, but don't like them after a while and decide to use it as a Nexus device. I am fine with that, to each their own, but it is enfuriating. How would you call this phone a success if not by it's unique features out of the box, with design made to work with it with sensors and everything.. instead you're killing it in favor of battery, like what? Really? :|
That is probably the beauty of android, everyone uses the device as they see fit but I don't see the brightness of killing a phone's features as good as this over standard stuff.
I like ambient display more. But some of you dont have that as an option since you may not be on 5.0. To each their own. I would take battery life over a feature I wouldn't use any day.
I am rooted but nothing seems to work, neither the notification led, nor the double tap!
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I find the opposite. Moto Display is better on batter life than ambient display in Lollipop. Not to mention just works better. Plus I also think it is one of the unique and best features of Moto X. Much better than double tap to wake...just pick up your phone and slide...done. or pick up my phone...check the time, put it back in my pocket and never have to turn the display on. Awesomeness!
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Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
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Having both a xt1095 and a onePlus one I can say dt2w is just better. I find my self having to wave my thumb over the it sensor trying to wake it again. Its a PiTA one handed. Alternatively with dt2w your thumb is already on the screen.
I wouldn't mind it if I could just wave the phone over my leg screen down to trip the sensors but that doesn't work really either.
Worse yet you swipe down to unlock after swiping up on lollipop notification screen....Moto has work to do. Honestly my X is going to get benched till updates roll out. It has so many bugs on lollipop that I'm disappointed.
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Moto Display is a battery hog and doesnt work right half the time. I disabled it long ago and my battery life doubled.
If ur Moto X is rooted then u can use certain apps from the Play Store to gain access to the notification light (I think one is called Light Flow). Also Im pretty sure some Devs got double tap to wake working on the Moto G so im sure it could work for ur X as long as ur rooted.
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I'd hardly call Moto Display a battery hog. Just like the 2013 X, it uses a low power core so it's designed to not use much battery. I did an experiment when I first got the phone and it literally added MAYBE an extra 1% of standby battery drain in a 24 hour period. I think you might have had other issues, honestly.
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Having both a xt1095 and a onePlus one I can say dt2w is just better. I find my self having to wave my thumb over the it sensor trying to wake it again. Its a PiTA one handed. Alternatively with dt2w your thumb is already on the screen.
I wouldn't mind it if I could just wave the phone over my leg screen down to trip the sensors but that doesn't work really either.
Worse yet you swipe down to unlock after swiping up on lollipop notification screen....Moto has work to do. Honestly my X is going to get benched till updates roll out. It has so many bugs on lollipop that I'm disappointed.
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And that's why I'm staying on KitKat. So many people are way too quick to update just because they want to have the latest software for no other reason than having the latest software. I actually had someone on xda tell me I don't deserve my Nexus 5 because I'm keeping it on KitKat. Sorry, but I like my phone to just work, and KitKat works beautifully on both my X and N5. Just toss a few Xposed modules in there and I'm a happy camper.
I've had such a different experience. I updated to lollipop on day one and have had no major issues what so ever. Battery life is great (better than kitkat) and the phone is super fast. I really think it is a user experience and depends on what apps you have on the phone as well as how the phone is used. I love the Moto X and honestly have bought several phones this year. HTC M8, Galaxy S5, LG G3, Xpeira Z3 and the X. I kept combing back to the Moto X...in fact I just sold all of them and kept the Moto...just feels better in hand and all around the best phone out of that bunch for me. I do wish it had the G3 camera on it though...that was the best camera of the bunch...surprisingly I thought the Z3 would have been the best camera but G3 performed better for me. I really hope Moto can issue an update fixing the poor camera quality. That is the one thing that really does bug me.
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I'd hardly call Moto Display a battery hog. Just like the 2013 X, it uses a low power core so it's designed to not use much battery. I did an experiment when I first got the phone and it literally added MAYBE an extra 1% of standby battery drain in a 24 hour period. I think you might have had other issues, honestly.
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And that's why I'm staying on KitKat. So many people are way too quick to update just because they want to have the latest software for no other reason than having the latest software. I actually had someone on xda tell me I don't deserve my Nexus 5 because I'm keeping it on KitKat. Sorry, but I like my phone to just work, and KitKat works beautifully on both my X and N5. Just toss a few Xposed modules in there and I'm a happy camper.
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You dont find that Moto display turns on when u dont need it? I had mine sitting on the table in front of me and randomly the screen would turn on for no reason. Happened time and time again. Plus if u use a PIN then u need to bypass Moto Display then the Android lock screen, so its like having 2 lock screens over lapping eachother. I dont know how u could think using all the sensors on front would lead to less battery usage. Ambient works way better for me. Whatever, not like I care how anyone uses their phone. So happy you guys love Moto Display! :|
If someone of you have had an LG G2 or G3 would understand why double tap and notification led is way better than this moto display or the other feature on lollipop!
In most cases I leave my phone sitting in the table and I'm some meters away, I see the led notify me and go to the table just double tap the screen and I'm ready!
Not to mention that curved back that makes it difficult to use the phone when it sits in the table.. I don't want to take the phone to my hand each time I want to type something, I want it on the table!
You'll tell me now.. "why you bought this phone??"
Honestly.. even if I don't like much of the features that "doesn't have" I love the feeling of this phone, I like it very much!!
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patik14 said:
If someone of you have had an LG G2 or G3 would understand why double tap and notification led is way better than this moto display or the other feature on lollipop!
In most cases I leave my phone sitting in the table and I'm some meters away, I see the led notify me and go to the table just double tap the screen and I'm ready!
Not to mention that curved back that makes it difficult to use the phone when it sits in the table.. I don't want to take the phone to my hand each time I want to type something, I want it on the table!
You'll tell me now.. "why you bought this phone??"
Honestly.. even if I don't like much of the features that "doesn't have" I love the feeling of this phone, I like it very much!!
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I had a G3 and I really don't miss tap to wake as I can just wave my hand over the display and get the same result. I do miss tap to sleep though. If I decide to go back to nova launcher, I know there's apps that lock your phone when you set double tap to that app.
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I had a G3 and I really don't miss tap to wake as I can just wave my hand over the display and get the same result. I do miss tap to sleep though. If I decide to go back to nova launcher, I know there's apps that lock your phone when you set double tap to that app.
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Also, since the phone has a rounded back, you can just tap the phone and it rocks causing the screen to turn on. Sometimes when I am playing Xbox and my phone is on the table in front of me I just lightly kick the table and the vibration turns the screen on. I have Nova and use the double tap to lock, however, doing this somehow makes the Smart Unlock not work. If I lock by the side button, then turn the phone on I can use my face to unlock. If I double tap Nova (or use any app that turns the screen off), then turn the phone on I can't use my face to unlock. It is very weird and not sure why.
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You dont find that Moto display turns on when u dont need it? I had mine sitting on the table in front of me and randomly the screen would turn on for no reason. Happened time and time again. Plus if u use a PIN then u need to bypass Moto Display then the Android lock screen, so its like having 2 lock screens over lapping eachother. I dont know how u could think using all the sensors on front would lead to less battery usage. Ambient works way better for me. Whatever, not like I care how anyone uses their phone. So happy you guys love Moto Display! :|
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I was under the impression that amibent display wakes up the snapdragon, while moto display uses a secondary low power chip, which should save some battery. Moto display uses three IR emitters and one IR sensor, those should consume minute levels of current.
Getting through two lockscreens does kind of suck though.
If double-tap-to-wakeup was important for me then I had an OnePlusOne invite and I would have bought that which is way cheaper than MotoX and has got better specs on the paper. But I handed that invite to someone else and bought the MotoX instead.
But I wanted the MotoX for what its offering and now I have got so much used to of the 'touchless' Moto features that I end up replicating same gestures on other phones I come across and then it takes a bit to realize that the others aren't smart enough like MotoX, Even an iPhone costing twice the money feels ancient tech in front of the MotoX. earlier I had complains with the camera but now I even have started liking the camera also for the quicker and smarter gesture based response, afterall what is utility of a mobile camera if you can't access it on time. :cyclops:
I have praises for the MotoX becasue its got few features which suite to me. It doesn't mean that its the only best smartphone, there are other phones as well which have some other distinct features preferred by other people, just a matter of preference, but be careful while choosing.
Those who are facing issues on Lollipop, I would suggest factory reset and clean start after the upgrade, then reset/retrain the Moto features.
If you install any of the custom roms for the Moto X, the light will function as a notification light. Since you seem to not like Moto Display, this seems like a viable option for you.
Guys plz tell me which fone should i buy?
my requirements are
1)screen size should not be greater than 5.5 inches (not even 5.6)
2)price should be equal to or less than Rs.25000( about $380)
3) decent battery backup
4) should not lag at all and should be smooth to use
5) i should be able to use the phone for about 2 years without any problems
i was crazy about oneplus 2 initially but i see a lot of negative reviews . i saw a video of speedtest between oneplus 2 vs moto x play in which moto x play beats oneplus 2 easily (i am shocked and confused after watching this)
please help and guide me.
Most of the problems with oneplus 2 are software related and can be fixed. If oneplus wants to, we can have a beast phone. I would personally go for op2 again because of the looks and ability to flash ROMs without losing warranty but I don't blame you if you go for moto x.
Good answer. Went for one plus 2 just because of the development aspect and the great camera, mixed reviews, but I've loved it so far. Feels like bit of a gamble waiting for one plus to get the software optimised with the hardware, will they get there? If they don't someone else will though and I think, if you like things a bit rough round the edges with lots of potential for tweaking etc. Go 4 opt
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The play is on a completely different level than the oneplus 2. Even though the oneplus 2 is currently buggy due to poorly optimized software and a flaky cpu, it'll run circles around the moto x play. The play is using a modified version of the CPU in the galaxy s4 and HTC one M7. It's old, it's slow, the GPU is trash, and apparently has the same overheating issues the snapdragon 810 and 808 have. Now, the pure, on the other hand, can definitely keep up with the oneplus 2. I owned both the Moto x pure and the oneplus 2 at the same time and ended up returning the moto x, despite the fact that it was better in every measurable way than the oneplus 2 because it was uncomfortable to hold. The screen was a bit too big and the phone was a bit too wide and too thin and too slippery for my tastes. I dropped it several times during my time with it and just really was not a comfortable phone to hold. But to each their own, totally could have gone the other way, too, both good phones! (Well, ok, the oneplus 2 isn't good yet, but there's potential).
Honestly, if you want the best phone for that kind of money, get the oneplus one and don't even think twice about it. It's far better than the moto x play and the oneplus 2.
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The play is on a completely different level than the oneplus 2. Even though the oneplus 2 is currently buggy due to poorly optimized software and a flaky cpu, it'll run circles around the moto x play. The play is using a modified version of the CPU in the galaxy s4 and HTC one M7. It's old, it's slow, the GPU is trash, and apparently has the same overheating issues the snapdragon 810 and 808 have. Now, the pure, on the other hand, can definitely keep up with the oneplus 2. I owned both the Moto x pure and the oneplus 2 at the same time and ended up returning the moto x, despite the fact that it was better in every measurable way than the oneplus 2 because it was uncomfortable to hold. The screen was a bit too big and the phone was a bit too wide and too thin and too slippery for my tastes. I dropped it several times during my time with it and just really was not a comfortable phone to hold. But to each their own, totally could have gone the other way, too, both good phones! (Well, ok, the oneplus 2 isn't good yet, but there's potential).
Honestly, if you want the best phone for that kind of money, get the oneplus one and don't even think twice about it. It's far better than the moto x play and the oneplus 2.
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But i heard the complete opposite that if you dont have oneplus one then go for OP2 not oneplus one. Another question - If i buy OP2 and root it with other roms/Add kernels then will it void the warranty?
I like my OPT more and more every day. I'm a huge Motorola X guy but opted with OPT. I still own the Motorola X 2014 and Nexus 6.
One Plus 2 has huge potential but it may take a bit of time to get there.
The last update (2.1) has improved things and Android M hopefully will help too.
To be fair, I haven't had any issues with my phone. Screen is nice, fingerprint scanner works flawlessly (better than my Note 5), battery life has been good and overheating a non-issue for me. The camera is great.
Honestly, you can't go wrong with either phone.
I'm curious about this too.
I currently have a Moto X Pure and I LOVE it.... I've had it for about 3 weeks - but I just received my OP2 invite last week and went ahead and pulled the trigger and it should be here Monday or Tuesday.....But now, I'm not sure which one I want to keep?!?!
I can refuse the OP2 and get a refund, or sell it to my local/popular "used cell phone" re-seller for probably what I paid for it (or CL for a little more). Or I can keep it and sell the Moto X Pure for probably a little less than what I paid since it's been used for a few weeks.
The ONLY thing that has been the constant deal breaker is the front speakers on the Moto X Pure. I play in a band and watch a lot of YouTube videos to learn new songs and watch movies when I'm "on the road". The front facing speakers is, and has been since my HTC One M7, a big deal for me. How is the OP2 speaker? Is it better than the Galalxy S6?
Also, since owning the MXP, I've really become accustomed to the motion and sensors the MXP offers.... Just wave your hand over the phone to see any notifications or just touch the notification to see more detail (much more than just active display).
Things I REALLY miss... Notification lights. I'm constantly waving my hand over my phone to see if I've missed any calls or text. I had a Galaxy S6 for a little while and really liked the finger print scanner.
Things that seem close and don't sway me either way
OS - both seem nice
Camera - I need a good camera and both seem pretty "on par" with each other.
Custom ROMs - I'm sure the MXP will have plenty soon and the OP2 already has several
A few other concerns.. The MXP's battery life is just OK, not as good as my M8 was but about the same as my M9 (which isn't the best). It is better than the S6..... But I wish it was better. How is the OP2's battery?
USB C - I currently have about 6 or 7 actually active micro USB cables between home, my car, work and my computer bag that get used regularly... Plus my son and I share these chargers when on trips. USB C is the way we're all headed, but i'm not sure I'm ready to shell out $10-15 per cable just yet.
So.....Any input from someone that has owed both would be very helpful.
I have both.
On my Play i run ressurection remix with no problems. On my OPT i run stock with AK kernel.
Best with each phone:
Oneplus:
Camera (OIS and manual controls is awesome)
Fingerprint sensor
Double tap to wake
4gb ram
No lag
USB-c (expensive cables but soooo nice to press in the cable and dont have to think about upside down ;p
Community, more custom Roms and kernels. I think it's one guy cooking Roms for the Play, Only one....
Moto X Play:
Battery (this is the best with this phone, easy 6-7h SoT) With the oneplus i get 4h SoT with the same use.
Quick charge
Camera in daylight. Inside in poor light it's pretty bad.
Well, thats it... The oneplus is heavier but i like it, it feels more premium. I love the feeling with my kevlar back.
The Play lags alot, but it's software probs so it will most likely be fixed soon.
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Day 3 with my OP2 after sending back my Moto X Pure.....
What I miss about the Moto X Pure:
The great front facing speakers....Biggest complaint on the OP2 is thin sounding speakers
The Moto Gestures and always on listening (even with screen off)
Fast charging of the Moto X Pure....I'd come home from work at 60%, plug it in while I took a shower and change clothes.... 25 minutes later 100%
Daylight picture taking
The speakers (I had to say that one twice, it sounds so good).
What I like better about OnePlus2:
Battery life.... The OP2 gets 3.5 to 4 hrs of SOT... Moto X Pure (not the play), got 3 on a good day and never seen more.
Double tap to wake
Off-screen buttons (like on Samsung)
Notification lights! Probably my biggest complaint with my Moto, I missed the notifications LED.
Feels like a more premium build
Over-all picture taking - Not quite as good in nice light, but better in every other situation.
Fingerprint scanner, even though I don't use it, is quick....
More accessories that actually FIT.
A few more ROM's available.
FYI: I sent my Moto X Pure back because it has a few QC issues and I pre-ordered a Nexus 6P. If the OP2 had front speakers, I'd just keep it instead.... Really wish it did.
Imo, both phones are different takes on the same goal. For me it came down to the cpu/screen tradeoff as its clear both phones will have thriving dev communities (cm is really coming along for the pure now in month 1 of release).
The 810 in the OPT was just too hot and the screen just too bland. The 808 and qhd screen of the MXP have been a much more enjoyable experience for me.
Been using my Moto G 3rd gen now with Marshmellow, running very well, but noticed the X Play and liked the look of the battery size.
A few questions if I may:
1) Will I notice a performance increase
2) Whats the screen brightness like and quality compared to the Moto g
3) How much better is the battery as the Moto g 3rd is pretty good for a day or even two if I'm careful
4) I really like the new twist to start camera and double chop to start flash, is this available on the play
5) How is it for the odd game, ie asphalt 8, runs OK but load times are slow on the moto g
Any other things that make it better, my other choice is the Moto X 2014, but its an older device.
THUDUK said:
Been using my Moto G 3rd gen now with Marshmellow, running very well, but noticed the X Play and liked the look of the battery size.
A few questions if I may:
1) Will I notice a performance increase
2) Whats the screen brightness like and quality compared to the Moto g
3) How much better is the battery as the Moto g 3rd is pretty good for a day or even two if I'm careful
4) I really like the new twist to start camera and double chop to start flash, is this available on the play
5) How is it for the odd game, ie asphalt 8, runs OK but load times are slow on the moto g
Any other things that make it better, my other choice is the Moto X 2014, but its an older device.
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1. Probably a good bit, but it mostly depends on phone usage
2. Personally I think the X Play is really bright, don't know about the G3
3. 2 days is no problem on the X Play, maybe you can get more if you get 2 with the G3
4. Only the twist to start camera is present on the X Play, you will need a custom rom for the chop chop.
5. Due to the octa core, game loading will be faster. And gaming performance will be better
Compared to the Moto X 2014, the X Play doesn't feel as premium but it has an sd card and the 21 mp camera is very good.
It is big step up from the G3 though
Thanks for that, shame about the chop chop, use it all the time. Battery life 3 days would be amazing and the camera sounds nice, might give it a go. Is Marshmallow out for the PLAY yet?
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Thanks for that, shame about the chop chop, use it all the time. Battery life 3 days would be amazing and the camera sounds nice, might give it a go. Is Marshmallow out for the PLAY yet?
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Yes, everyone has it by now
I also upgraded from the moto g 4g and performance with gaming is better.You won't notice a big difference with normal usage since the moto g already performs very smooth. Battery is the biggest plus to upgrade and you can do some better multitasking with the 2gb.
I'm interested in buying the Moto X Play.
I know that on Moto X Play there's no Wave to wake function as there're not special IR sensors.
But, On my Moto X 2013 there were no IR sensors too - and it worked fine on 4.4.4.
I found that it's possible making this feature work again using Tasker on 5.1:
https://plus.google.com/+DenHil/posts/g1bwKznW2No
I'd like to know whether it'll work on Moto X Play too?
Any chance that someone try it out on his Moto X Play?
Wave to wake works on all phones. It uses the prox sensor and far as I know its build in every phone. Works with cm and stock roms. For stock rom I use macrodroid to enable it,but tasker should also work.
Thanks,
But whether it's going to work same as the Moto X 2014 / Style? or different behavior
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Thanks,
But whether it's going to work same as the Moto X 2014 / Style? or different behavior
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I only owned a nexus 4 and moto g 4g and it all worked the same. In macrodroid you can adjust this by choosing different settings like : proximity far or near,slow wave or fast wave etc.
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I only owned a nexus 4 and moto g 4g and it all worked the same. In macrodroid you can adjust this by choosing different settings like : proximity far or near,slow wave or fast wave etc.
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I owned a Moto G 2013, the feature worked good and removed on 5.1.
Now I have a Droid Turbo which I broke the screen on- which has this feature in the stock system.
it's to expensive now ordering a new screen - so I decided to by 2nd hand MOTO X Play for now.
Currently I'm using an old HTC One S - it's kind of possible enabling such behavior with apps such as acDisplay, Wave to Unlock, Auto screen on, etc. - but the battery drain is insane with them.
Using the method that I mentioned in the first post isn't working.
Generally in the devices that have this feature in the stock system have AMOLED display (most of them), extra-IR sensors and also an extra processor which taking care of sensors behavior.
If you'll try to use this feature on device that doesn't have the above then three things will happen:
1. You're going to use the main IR (proximity) sensor
2. You're going to use the main CPU for getting the data from the sensor
3. As the display isn't AMOLED then the system have to turn the whole display on a not specific pixels
Those will lead to extra battery drain.
Here's again my question, when using Tasker (if it works?) is the behavior on MOTO X Play is same as on other phones that have that feature in the stock system?
And also is the behavior of Moto Display is same (turning the screen on from waving = turning the screen on from taking the phone in the hands)?
saturn_frak said:
I owned a Moto G 2013, the feature worked good and removed on 5.1.
Now I have a Droid Turbo which I broke the screen on- which has this feature in the stock system.
it's to expensive now ordering a new screen - so I decided to by 2nd hand MOTO X Play for now.
Currently I'm using an old HTC One S - it's kind of possible enabling such behavior with apps such as acDisplay, Wave to Unlock, Auto screen on, etc. - but the battery drain is insane with them.
Using the method that I mentioned in the first post isn't working.
Generally in the devices that have this feature in the stock system have AMOLED display (most of them), extra-IR sensors and also an extra processor which taking care of sensors behavior.
If you'll try to use this feature on device that doesn't have the above then three things will happen:
1. You're going to use the main IR (proximity) sensor
2. You're going to use the main CPU for getting the data from the sensor
3. As the display isn't AMOLED then the system have to turn the whole display on a not specific pixels
Those will lead to extra battery drain.
Here's again my question, when using Tasker (if it works?) is the behavior on MOTO X Play is same as on other phones that have that feature in the stock system?
And also is the behavior of Moto Display is same (turning the screen on from waving = turning the screen on from taking the phone in the hands)?
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Because of this prox standby drain I always use moto display instead. Moto display uses motion sensors and is very battery friendly. I think it works almost the same like the moto x you are talking about and only difference is it uses some other sensors instead.
Edit: Touching the device puts the screen on and i dont know how,but it also works using a flip cover.Maybe because of a magnet sensor. Not sure but it works .
If its all about your battery life (sot) i should run to the shop. If you keep you screen brightness low and adjust the stock governor settings you can reach over 10 hours sot with light usage using greenify and aggressive doze enabled.
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If its all about your battery life (sot) i should run to the shop. If you keep you screen brightness low and adjust the stock governor settings you can reach over 10 hours sot with light usage using greenify and aggressive doze enabled.
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it's all about doing the "wave over the phone" gesture and getting the screen turned on with the clock and the circle in the middle without draining my battery in few hours
saturn_frak said:
it's all about doing the "wave over the phone" gesture and getting the screen turned on with the clock and the circle in the middle without draining my battery in few hours
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Few hours? If i use the proximity sensor i still get around 7/8 hours. It drains around 5% battery a day and not a big deal for the battery shipped with the x play.
Try Glance Plus app. I currently using this one in favour of Moto display. It has proximity sensor detection built in.
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Few hours? If i use the proximity sensor i still get around 7/8 hours. It drains around 5% battery a day and not a big deal for the battery shipped with the x play.
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why compromising on feature that originally worked on Moto X 2013 4.4.4 and removed on 5.1?
I found that there's a modded MotoActions.apk that I can install and use the "chop twice for flash light" feature which removed also in Moto X Play.
So the Wave to wake feature can be brought back, as it already worked in Moto X 2013
saturn_frak said:
why compromising on feature that originally worked on Moto X 2013 4.4.4 and removed on 5.1?
I found that there's a modded MotoActions.apk that I can install and use the "chop twice for flash light" feature which removed also in Moto X Play.
So the Wave to wake feature can be brought back, as it already worked in Moto X 2013
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Maybe you can better buy a moto x instead if your looking for exact the same features, because its not the same device. You can also think the huge battery is a great compromise for the functions you are missing and can be replaced using other apps and sensors,but the battery aint. Just my opinion.
Sickaxis79 said:
Maybe you can better buy a moto x instead if your looking for exact the same features, because its not the same device. You can also think the huge battery is a great compromise for the functions you are missing and can be replaced using other apps and sensors,but the battery aint. Just my opinion.
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I will buy Moto Z
But for now I have this device...
"Buy Moto X if you want XXX function" is kind of "iOS" style answer
As I mentioned
1. Motorola removed this feature on Moto X 2013 on 5.1,
2. Moto X 2013 don't have extra IR sensors
3. There's modded MotoActions.apk which brings the "chop twice for flash light" back to Moto X Play
The conclusion is simple - it's possible bringing the "wave to wake" feature to the MotoActions.apk - just need a developer to do it (Same as with "chop twice")
What answer do you wanna hear ? Seems like you are looking for an answer that you already know. All functions you mentioned are working on a similar way. Camera is double twist or press power button twice to take a quick picture and the moto display also works perfect and doent drain the battery, but you just want the exact same features on a different device and telling me its an ios style answer. Maybe i can place the ir sensors in the mxp with some special magic for you , if thats what you wanna hear.
saturn_frak said:
I will buy Moto Z
But for now I have this device...
"Buy Moto X if you want XXX function" is kind of "iOS" style answer
As I mentioned
1. Motorola removed this feature on Moto X 2013 on 5.1,
2. Moto X 2013 don't have extra IR sensors
3. There's modded MotoActions.apk which brings the "chop twice for flash light" back to Moto X Play
The conclusion is simple - it's possible bringing the "wave to wake" feature to the MotoActions.apk - just need a developer to do it (Same as with "chop twice")
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If you want "wave to wake", use something like "Gravity Screen" from the Play Store (or any of the other dozen alternatives) or a custom ROM that has it baked-in. I'm using the unofficial Temasek's "Ambient Display" and its options for it and that's been working very well for me.
I'm sure there's battery drain but it seems pretty minimal, I don't even consider it.
BTW, comparing this situation to the X 2013 doesn't work - that device has completely different guts (SoC/chipset, screen tech, etc.) than the MXP. When I was on stock I've tried the modified MotoActions.apk before and the chop-chop was terrible, not even close to how smoothly it worked on the 2013 which would be another indication that things are different under the hood. Even the Temasek ROM has it (double chop gesture) and I have it turned off because it just doesn't work well.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto Z, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto Z is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So far better than expected. Coming from Galaxy Note 7, and I like this phone so far. Jury still out on battery life, but I had low expectations for that to begin with. (Unlocked T-Mobile)
I'm using the Chinese version but flashed the european firmware to use the google services. My last phone was moto x 2014. I'm happy with Z's fingerprint and camera(just compare with moto phones), and also the excellent design and build quality. Battery life is a little better than the new x as I expected, so there's nothing to complain about.
I'm coming from a TMo note 5. How's the battery life for you?
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swamp7 said:
So far better than expected. Coming from Galaxy Note 7, and I like this phone so far. Jury still out on battery life, but I had low expectations for that to begin with. (Unlocked T-Mobile)
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I'm coming from a TMo note 5. How's the battery life for you?
Im on track for 5hrs sot and im 3 days in.
emailrob said:
I'm coming from a TMo note 5. How's the battery life for you?
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I'm coming from a TMo note 5. How's the battery life for you?
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Also coming from Note 5 (but ATT not TMo) I have to say my Screen on time is way higher on the Moto Z. Note 5 battery life really wasnt that great.
I am coming from OnePlus 2 (flashed official CyanogenMod 13.0). I seriously miss the notification LED - please don't get it wrong - I know there is this "wave your hand over the screen notification" - but I found the notification LED to be more convenient.
Secondly, I am unable to setup Moto voice assist. I live in a place with lots of steams and bustles (24 hours) and the device is unable to measure the echo (or whatever it's called) - showing lots of error warnings (please don't advice me to go to a jungle to do the setup)!!
By the way, the loudness of ringtone and/or notification is pathetic (even @ 100%)!! Now imagine the horror - low loudness and without a notification LED - I am sure I have quite a rough and unpleasant ride ahead...
Battery life is okay-ish for me - leaves me with a 15%-18% juice when I return home at evening (I charge it 100% every morning).
Screen is the main reason (and that SoC sd820) - I am still liking the device. I am not yet sure whether I "love" the device - but I definitely like it.
SogaBan said:
I seriously miss the notification LED - please don't get it wrong - I know there is this "wave your hand over the screen notification" - but I found the notification LED to be more convenient.
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Current version of Moto Display sucks. For some dumb reason they removed breathing function that would show notifications without the need to wave your hand.
Install Missed Call Reminder. With that you can at least configure screen to flash a notification (or camera leds to flash) when there is a missed call or message:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dan_ru.ProfReminder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38143514
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the app did not work at all on my device!:crying:
If I could have a iota of the idea that Motorola got ****tier with Lenovo, I would've opted for an LG G5.
I read on Motorola forum that the low loudness of the ringtone and the notification is a software issue and can probably get fixed with an update. Can anyone please pour in their inputs?
SogaBan said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the app did not work at all on my device!:crying:
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Weird, it works fine with my Moto Z (eu-version).
Btw. I have had no problems with ringtone or notification volume been too low. Only problem is that their volume control is linked, but that is Google's "bright" idea (but Lenovo should still have made them separate like few other manufacturers do). I modified my favourite ringtone files to play at a little lower volume so now notifications play at the same level.
ET328 said:
Weird, it works fine with my Moto Z (eu-version).
Btw. I have had no problems with ringtone or notification volume been too low. Only problem is that their volume control is linked, but that is Google's "bright" idea (but Lenovo should still have made them separate like few other manufacturers do). I modified my favourite ringtone files to play at a little lower volume so now notifications play at the same level.
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Mine is an Indian version; even then, do the version(s) differ drastically? Probably I am doing something wrong. The thing is - when I am trying the demo mode ("try" mode) - nothing actually happens - no flash, no screen lit-up, nothing.
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Mine is an Indian version; even then, do the version(s) differ drastically? Probably I am doing something wrong. The thing is - when I am trying the demo mode ("try" mode) - nothing actually happens - no flash, no screen lit-up, nothing.
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I don't think version matters in this. Have you read the FAQ:
http://profreminder.com/faq/
Or ask help in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38143514
I am getting 12hour sot best battery life ever had 6p and s7 edge and I still like z play display better because sunlight viewing is better than both extremely happy with these phone
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I am getting 12hour sot best battery life ever had 6p and s7 edge and I still like z play display better because sunlight viewing is better than both extremely happy with these phone
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This is an Moto Z sub forum, not the Moto z play one. They are very different phones.
SteveHG said:
This is an Moto Z sub forum, not the Moto z play one. They are very different phones.
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That's odd. It's definitely listed under Moto Z Play -> Moto Z Play Guides, News, & Discussion -> Overall love
As far as battery life, it's by far the best battery life I've ever had on a phone. If you're a heavy user like I usually am during the weekend, then you get about a day and a half and roughly 10ish hours of SOT. If you're one of those people that uses a phone to do phone things primarily, doesn't play games etc, you can get a few days worth of battery out of it ez. This week (bc of thanksgiving) has been sporadic with me.
I miss the LED too - and don't understand why they removed the 'breathe' display. I love the phone, though - and I'll love it even more when they fix the 'quiet reminder' issue.
I come from a Moto G 2014/ Xperia Z2.
My Z2 just stopped working last september and since i bought my gf an Xperia M5 for her birthday i asked her to lend me her G2 2014, Sim reader was busted but costed me 2 dollars to replace myself, installed CM14 and stayed there for 2 months. AT&T offered me both this and the Huaweii P9 Plus but i went for the Z Play.
I like others miss the notification led from the G2, but i have since installed Chronus and I'm using the active display feature alongside chronus for quick updates on notifications. I'm a power user and heavy on the camera so this phone doesn't disappoints at all... I don't feel the urge to root it or install a custom rom since the interface is just so pure.
Only complain i would kinda say i have is the fingerprint reader. It's not that it doesn't work properly... it's that it is a bit...slow, t least compared to the one on the P9.
Battery is above golden truly. Yesterday i used the phone all the day long, and the went on a full 6 hours of screen time on spotify at a party, i arrived home with 57% of battery, obviously I was very much impressed.
bigbamboo5 said:
I miss the LED too - and don't understand why they removed the 'breathe' display. I love the phone, though - and I'll love it even more when they fix the 'quiet reminder' issue.
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It would be really useful if you could adjust the time of the "breathing" display when a notification arrived... It's a real super device but it needs one or two things to change...
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It would be really useful if you could adjust the time of the "breathing" display when a notification arrived... It's a real super device but it needs one or two things to change...
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Amen the this. :good:
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Amen the this. :good:
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Try this!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications
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