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S5 recovery 20$ min read all please. I'm desperate

- Intro
- Done and searched so far
- My Questions. (Jump to the end unless you think I haven't search prior )
- Bounty
INTRO
Hey guys. I'm french Canadian (please understand my bad written )
and thanks to the phone I choosed (s5 active g870w telus)
I'm becoming pretty much bilingual I've checked all over
around The Web and over this forum. And can't find an accurate
answer . I know I picked the wrong phone for rooting but
as a construction worker it was a good compromise.
DONE AND SEARCHED
My Samsung Galaxy s5 Active g870w from Telus
is still on 4.4.2 since there is no and there will not be
any update for a while.
I managed to used the g900w8 version of
Chain fire auto root method using Odin 3.09
to get roots.
I have also succès to flash Unity 2.0.1 rom.
So far I figured that my version can count as
the Canadian version of the s5 small g900w8. (I may be wrong)
I found a stock Firmware (that accualy make my
lies in russian ) Wich I used a lot lately due to all
my soft brick.
My goal is to be able to upgrade to a nice custom rom
on lollipop. I was hoping Fusion. And as for the recovery
TWRP would be my choice if it was possible.
Now I am stuck trying to install TWRP. I have followed
multiple guide. I have tried to install from TWRP manager
the version 2.8.6.0 klte. I have tried 3 times and after the app
installation I tried to reboot to recovery using Quick boot,
i always end up in Odin mode.
I then tried to install using Odin flashing the same version
Downloaded from TWRP.me site. Then it let me load into
my stock version. Then if I try to reboot in recovery
it still stock.
I even tried to use safestrap both version at&t and Verizon
and both soft bricked me.
I have read or scan about every thread and none talk about
S5 a g870w. Beside the att version Wich are locked.
QUESTIONS
My Questions and I really beg for answers even if
You have only 1 answer.
1- Is my phone g870w compatible g900w8?
2-is it compatible to any other versions?
3-when looking should I only look for Canadian version or I can also
use either g870 from at&t,Verizon or international. Or I look for
International g900. Since I guess my bootloader is unlocked .
4- Since only at&t and Verizon are supposed to be lock I guess
I can't use safestrap... so are TWRP and CWM the only options?
5- Can someone help me troubleshoot my installations. ?
6- After I install my recovery a a g870w on kitkat 4.4.2
Should I be able to flash lollipop base custom rom?
7- Is it possible that there is no option for me beside
Unity and stock rom.
BOUNTY
It might not be much but I offer a 20$ minimum bounty for who ever
take me outta this non ending bulls*"t.
Thanks guys. And please I swear I have search and read a lot
just Google my model number and you'll always end up on me
Searching and I seems to be the only one g870w talking about
recovery or custom rom. All I found is how to root...
Jon

1- Is my phone g870w compatible g900w8?
No, it is different flashing anything that isn't designed for your exact model number ( even the AT&T ones which are one letter different) won't work.
2-is it compatible to any other versions?
No, only firmwares for your exact phone will work without someone modifying something specific for you.
3-when looking should I only look for Canadian version or I can also
use either g870 from at&t,Verizon or international. Or I look for
International g900. Since I guess my bootloader is unlocked .
Flashing any other model number but your own risks bootloop/bricking as they although look similar can have different firmware partitions amongst other things.
4- Since only at&t and Verizon are supposed to be lock I guess
I can't use safestrap... so are TWRP and CWM the only options?
If someone can have a look at TWRP is possible that they can make a version work for you: ideally I would say with it being so difficult as so few have your model I would go to stock: root and use xposed, and leave the rest.
5- Can someone help me troubleshoot my installations. ?
Sure, happy to help but don't know how much can help when you are trying firmwares for different versions.
6- After I install my recovery a a g870w on kitkat 4.4.2
Should I be able to flash lollipop base custom rom?
Unless someone has made I've for your model type I doubt it.
7- Is it possible that there is no option for me beside
Unity and stock rom.
Yeah unfortunately this is quite likely.

thanks for taking the time.
Now I'll go private with you for personal things.
but before maybe few extra questions will help the very few others in
the same painful situation.
about compatibility you answered no.
What made me search so bad is that I've seen
other members(g870a) claiming they we're using
g900 roms I'll search for a link.
-Does it mean even tho its risky or
it means that American version have more luck ?
-am I still able to use a recovery like safestrap?
-can I hang myself?
- and if I'd like to have TWRP and a know custom rom
would it be a lot of works for Des.
Is it "askable" are some working for money?
I hate stuck to death I miss my note 3 like crazy. .. damn

New to I337 somewhat confused

New to the I337. AT&T with NC1. Android 4.4.2. Stock ROM with the 3.4.0-1125940 kernel. Rooted, SE Linux permissive, Safestrap installed. Compared to other phones I have owned, rooted and installed custom ROMS for this one is way more complex.
Today I tried to Safestrap flash a couple of different ROM's- the Goole Play edition (jflte GPE) and the Lollipop 5.1 ROM 2015061jflte both times using Safestrap. Neither worked. In the case of the Google Play edition, it wanted to install a new kernel as well, I tried with the recommended kernel on the install GUI (wow an install GUI on Android). Both times stuck in a boot loop. I ended up using for the second time, the excellent information here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
to get back to stock NC1 (thanks again guut13 for the excellent guide and links to resources) and restored via Safestrap the present stock configuration.
My questions are as follows (I am posting this after a LOT of reading here)
1)Can I use LokiDoki ? I understand it resolves problems with the locked boot loader where one can flash pretty much any S4 ROM on the I337.Is this true?
2) I wanted to give the two ROMS I mentioned today a try. Neither worked although I followed the instructions carefully (wipe, install and reboot). I also would like to try the Phoenix ROM. Is it compatible with Safestrap? Are the two I tried today compatible with Safestrap?
3) I am on 4.4.2. I understand that 4.4.4 is out there as well as 5 but when I check either via Kies or OTA I am told this is the latest firmware for my phone. Any way to update this?
As I said earlier this phone is a lot more complex from a modding standpoint than any other I have experience with. I am unclear on which ROM's will work with the NC1. Before I knew about Safestrap and the boot loader problem I tried installing TWERP and ended up having to rebuild things with guut13's excellent thread.
With NC1 am I stuck on the stock ROM ? Can kernels be updated on NC1 using LokiDoki?
Any light or advice to be shed on my confusion wold be very much appreciated.
Expat

Look at this other excellent thread started I by guut13,î answers all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Loki doki is not an option for you, and you can only install tw based roms.

Cats_PJ's
Thanks for the link. Have seen this thread. So I am on 4.4.2. So can I flash a 5.x ROM on the phone provided its TW --or does the phone have to be updated via OTH or another method to 5.x first? Or am I stuck on the ROMS specifically available on 4.4.2?
Thanks again very much for your interest and the link. Wish I had shopped more carefully and bought a non AT&T phone, one of the 5xxx models but I couldn't find anything other than the AT&T ones here in Ecuador.
Expat

http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
That will get you to 5.0.1. You can flash the lollipop roms after that.
I wish I had known more before I bought my phone too. Live and learn, I'm about do for an upgrade though. Good luck.

Cats_PJs said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
That will get you to 5.0.1. You can flash the lollipop roms after that.
I wish I had known more before I bought my phone too. Live and learn, I'm about do for an upgrade though. Good luck.
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Again many kind thanks for the help. This is the most complicated chain of BS to go through just to update a ROM thanks to the locked boot loader I have ever seen..... however you and others here deserve a lot of credit for finding workarounds...... the phone has been made needlessly complex with the BL and efforts by Google and AT&T to "protect" their turf and monetise the user. I would upgrade today were I not in Ecuador where everything costs double what it does in the US. The phone thief crop here is thick- this is the fourth phone in 2 years although the Galaxy Grand Prime I bought after the last robbery I still have. Broke the screen on that one and it was repaired improperly, I get a blank white screen on startup so can't get into recovery so its worthless to me for what I want it for..... so I have the S4 AT&T. Ah well.
Many thanks and enough of my *****ing.
Expat

flashing/installing cm12 onto s5 900w8

ive searched and searched but am having problems finsing steps to get cm12 onto my s5900 w8 (bell)
finding there is limited w8 support or its foud across so many forums and not mentioned if items work or not with others that do
curent fone
galaxy s5 900w8
android ver: 4.42
baseband g900w8vlu1anf3
kernel : old (2014)
build: kot49h.g900w8vlu1anf3
I want to have a fast light install with abilities to turn off all the google and samsng bloatware (if they even need to be installed at all)
bell modem
searching for all these has become confusing and i dont want to brick my phone
not really concerned about knox but it would be kool to keep it 0x0
battery life
everything should be working (gps camera etc)
i have two old galaxy s and xda has been amazing, but not having a dev phone anymore, i cant afford to be down, phones have advanced beyond my abilities and i need to get it right
pointing me to threads/posts should be sufficient as im proficient in figuring, just hard to find w8 stuff
thanks in advance!!

XDA Visitor said:
ive searched and searched but am having problems finsing steps to get cm12 onto my s5900 w8 (bell)
finding there is limited w8 support or its foud across so many forums and not mentioned if items work or not with others that do
curent fone
galaxy s5 900w8
android ver: 4.42
baseband g900w8vlu1anf3
kernel : old (2014)
build: kot49h.g900w8vlu1anf3
I want to have a fast light install with abilities to turn off all the google and samsng bloatware (if they even need to be installed at all)
bell modem
searching for all these has become confusing and i dont want to brick my phone
not really concerned about knox but it would be kool to keep it 0x0
battery life
everything should be working (gps camera etc)
i have two old galaxy s and xda has been amazing, but not having a dev phone anymore, i cant afford to be down, phones have advanced beyond my abilities and i need to get it right
pointing me to threads/posts should be sufficient as im proficient in figuring, just hard to find w8 stuff
thanks in advance!!
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Hello, and thank you for using XDA Assist!
I am connecting you to the S5 Q&A, where your device experts can be found:
> Samsung Galaxy S 5 > Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
From what I read, I see enough reason not to go with a custom ROM (Knox would get triggered the moment you install custom recovery IIRC - if not sooner) when you can just root and freeze the bloat.
Concerns about stability and battery life are valid concerns as well. My experience with custom ROMs is that it is hard to get that (yet I still keep coming back ).
Your modem should stay intact during a custom ROM flash though, but there have been cases otherwise I suppose.
Anyway, hope this helps, and good luck!

joel.maxuel said:
Hello, and thank you for using XDA Assist!
I am connecting you to the S5 Q&A, where your device experts can be found:
> Samsung Galaxy S 5 > Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
From what I read, I see enough reason not to go with a custom ROM (Knox would get triggered the moment you install custom recovery IIRC - if not sooner) when you can just root and freeze the bloat.
Concerns about stability and battery life are valid concerns as well. My experience with custom ROMs is that it is hard to get that (yet I still keep coming back ).
Your modem should stay intact during a custom ROM flash though, but there have been cases otherwise I suppose.
Anyway, hope this helps, and good luck!
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great,
thanks for the quick reply...
but the first heading i see is root[ALL VARIENTS]... but within the first post it says "MAKE SURE ONLY 'F'"
and for freezing, titianium backup?
i'll keep researching, but would really like to go back to one of the CM builds.
thanks again
Itradsk

itradsk said:
great,
thanks for the quick reply...
but the first heading i see is root[ALL VARIENTS]... but within the first post it says "MAKE SURE ONLY 'F'"
and for freezing, titianium backup?
i'll keep researching, but would really like to go back to one of the CM builds.
thanks again
Itradsk
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Yeah, that's for recovery, and what is quoted is one of the options within ODIN. But for the recovery option, you will need a "ODIN flashable recovery for your device" which I did not see.
If you just want to go with the root and titanium backup for now (btw, "app quarantine" freezes apps too and may still be a free alternative), looks like, based on the thread, that towelroot is the way to go. Just to be sure to install SuperSU afterward if towelroot does not for you.
Hope this helps.

I'm on g900w8 Telus it uses the same towers as bell. I've used the cyanogen 12.1 version. Just make sure to grab the correct version of rom. And make sure you flash lollipop kernel and modem.
I believe u want the ktle version for gsm
Telus Samsung G900W8

Help updating my SM-N9005 Note 3?

Hi there,
I need a little help with updating my Note3. Ill start off with what I have here. I acquired a used Note 3 from a member of the Canadian Olympic Curling Team. It came from the last winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia. She was given it to her from Samsung. Its model number is SM-N9005. Currently I am running Android Version 4.3, and its Baseband# is N9005XXUDMJ7, and Build# is JSS15J.N9005XXUDMK2. I am using it in Manitoba, Canada on the MTS Mobilty Network, and its been working great!
It is rooted and I have the rom backed up to SD card using either CWM/TWRP, I can't remember which one. I'd like to update from Jellybean to the newest Android which I believe is Marsmallow, and would like to know how I can do this, and still keep my installed apps? I mean, Would I have to re-install all my installed apps? This would really suck, as i have a ton of apps. Also, all my texts and contacts. I know the contacts would be reinstalled from my google account, and I believe I can back up my texts, but would they still work after updating the OS? (I remember my apple days this was usually an issue!) I am using GoSMS Pro, and BBM for texting.
Can I simply "unroot" my phone and then update via the OTA option, then "re-root" it? Also, I have an awesome theme installed that changed all my icons to awesome looking full color icons, which i really like it is "The best theme ever 4 note 3" by SirM.
Can someone please tell me what it would take to update to the newest Android OS for me, so that I can keep my apps and all my settings intact, or even if that's possible?
I hope this isnt too much of a stupid request, but I don't have the time to wade through all the different forums/subforums for all the info im looking for, as there are so many diffenet types of Note 3's out there it seems! (Att/Verizon/Etc!)
Thanks for now, and I really appreciate any help.
Ginnz.
----Added later.
Ok, now here is probably a real stupid question, but I just seen an awesome Rom which i'd love to try, its a Note 5 port which promises to run real smooth on the Note3. Now, I am wondering if its as easy as just simply flashing it? or do I need to update to the newest Android version first, then flashing? And, would it work on my version of phone? This is the Rom I am referring to... And there is mention of "Aroma"? What is Aroma? Is it included with this Rom? or does it need to be installed first? Damn, I Know, Im so far behind with all this stuff. I Just been so busy with work, Family, work (Job #2) and all that jazz.... I hope these questions arn't too stupid! I just need a push in the right direction (s)
([Rom][5.1.1][N5 Port][19.02.2016] [Multi-DPI] Phronesis Rom v6 Feature Rich)
Thanks again in advance!
GiNNz!

Aroma is just an installer with multiple user options .
That is an excellent rom by the way .

Flash official 5.0.
Or flash the modem/baseband as in the thread. Then flash twrp 2.8.7.0. Followed by the rom you mentioned.
Sent from my SM-N920C

Rosli59564 said:
Flash official 5.0.
Or flash the modem/baseband as in the thread. Then flash twrp 2.8.7.0. Followed by the rom you mentioned.
Sent from my SM-N920C
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I install a fresh firmware 5.0, I root it with Kingo Root, flash it with twrp 2.8.7.0
I try to install Phronesis v6 and not working. is coming in loop.
In past with Phronesis v3 it works fine.
Where is my mistake?

Are you wiping the system, data, and cache before installing the rom?

Installing TWRP

So I know this place isn't really active anymore for obvious reasons but I have been trying get this phone to work better.
Android Version: 4.4.2
Carrier: ATT
Baseband: NB1
Locked Bootloader
I used odin to install this package: ALL_ATT_I337UCUFNB1_I337ATTFNB1_505595_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
I rooted with towelroot and have verified the ability to use root applications
My question is whether or not I can install twrp or do i have to use safestrap.
My end goal is to install a custom rom. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/orig-development/rom-team-octos-oct-n-t3532663
Although at the end of the day I will be more than willing to settle for any stock rom if its easier to attain. i.e. 4.4.2 - 7.1
There are so many threads with differing information, some accounting for "loki" or something. im not really sure what's going on. Another issue is that most of the devs aren't even active on xda anymore. I think the only active one from here is @jd1639 So i'm asking you for help specifically since you don't accept pms. Thank you
Edit: I tried to install twrp with the twrp manager and although it flashed, I get an unauthorized software error from ATT. I will use odin to fix it but I still am asking if there is a solution for the twrp issue.

Man, it's been a long time since I answered any questions on the S4, and I never did own the device. But to my recollection you can not use twrp. You need to use safestrap. I don't know if you found this, https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2926642. I'm also not sure if @guut13 is still active but he was the real expert. @audit13 can also help.
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app

If the phone sgh-i337 is running a stock 4.3 ROM or newer, the bootloader will be locked which means the phone cannot use any custom recovery other than SafeStrap. This also means that the phone cannot run a custom ROM unless the custom ROM is based on a stock s4 ROM.