I am thinking of making many modifications to a spare hermes/8525 I have.
I want to mod it to have a tilting screen.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Do you think it is possible to do it and make it look nice?
Thanks, Sirgatory
Darn, I thought this was going to be a guide to the mod. I would think it could work with a little modifications to the tracks. Only problem I could see if how to keep it popped up. Maybe see if anyone has completely disassembled the Kaiser to compare?
Another idea is to have tracks with a curve to them which would angle up the screen. They go flat when you slide it close, but flex and bend up/"curl" when you open the phone.
This was asked about a year or so ago and the conclusion was, (and I tend to agree) that there is no obvious way to do this as part of the mechanism is housed in the front section and the rest in the rear housing. So any mod would certainly require additional parts with no space between the front and rear housing to place a hinged mechanism. The sliding blocks on the front section would need hinges (that might be possible but the gap between front and rear sections would then become wider - which would not be particularly pleasing to the eye.
Mike
Thanks for your input. I am still going to try this as I have nothing to lose with this water damaged, bricked pda.
If I can accomplish this feat, I will try it on my functional 8525. And after that, pictures.
Thanks guys!
guys i have a really bad problem with my camera...
since yesterday i have two big black flakes on my photos (and on viewport too!)
i reverted to jm8 using odin...
then i dissembled the device to see if the problem is on cameras cover but even without that glass part those flakes are still there...
does anybody have any idea?
i think i need to send it to service
this is how it looks like now:
http://img291.imageshack.us/i/20110321005202.jpg/
anybody.. :S
Dust specs on the camera sensor, chances are the sensor and lens autofocus assembly are a sealed unit making it hard to clean, if they are not sealed a good blow with a rocket blower would shift them.
Other wise either send it in for service or give the phone a few sort sharp knocks on the palm of your hand along the oposite edge from where the dust apears. The sensor is mirrored so what apears bottom left is actually top right.
thank you steph that makes sense...
how can i find cameras sensor to clean it?
i don't think the dust is on the len right?
The actual dust specs will probably be about .5mm in size its possible they are on the lens but i would put money on the sensor. Aim the camera at a bright suface in macro mode such as a white computer screen with a black dot to help focus. Give the phone a few knocks and see if it shifts any, repeat process a few times. If nothing moves then either dissasemble or send it in. Remember opening the unit up could introduce more dust.
The sensor is located directly behind the lens, it is would have a Glass filter over it NEVER EVER touch it with anything if you dont know exactly what you are doing. I would imagine it is about the same size as the glass cover (probably smaller) dust will be attracted to it like a magnet, you could try a rocket blower, or canned air ( no more than 2 sprays or it will ice up.
Dont get me wrong its very easy to clean but super easy to scratch with even the best cloth.
i tried to knock on it but nothing moved
i guess im gonna try a rocket blower or something like that. honestly i don't want to send it in...
btw thank you very much for your help steph.
Beware: the camera lens on the back of our SGS II is made of cheap plastic. I learned the hard way.
Yesterday I was using the camera and all was really good. Today all photos were blurred. I checked and noticed a small bend, yes a bend, right in the middle of the camera lens. It is not a scratch, which has been my concern since buying the SGS2, it was a bend. I may be wrong, but glass should not bend, it scratches. Now I don't have a lens anymore, I have a prism.
The phone did not fall, or was treated badly. Most probably, I put it in my pants' front pockets, as I have done for years with my HTC phones (horrible cameras btw, compared to the sgs2), there may have been a contact with a harder surface (a key, maybe, but I don't suppose so), and the lens bended. It's a real pity. I'm considering now removing the "lens" as it is not the actual lens, just a cover I guess, and see if this works.
This may be the best and most expensive cell phone right now, why couldn't Samsung put a real glass (like apple does, btw) to protect the camera?
I hope this warning helps others not to get into the same problem. Maybe using a leather pouch can prevent this from happening (I was using the mesh cover case).
A previously super happy owner, now a very desolate one...
what did you do to your phone? Don't blame samsung for something you physically you did.
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thats strange? a bit of plastic with those dimensions shouldn't bend at all, unless put under direct heat and pressure? :S
can you post pictures taken and a picture of the lens?
I don't have another camera with me to photograph the lens. Besides, it is hard to see the bend, you need the correct angle for the light to hit it and be able to see. But attached is a picture I took with the cell. Kind of artsy...
I would have thought that if it did actually have a bend in it (which seems like an awfully difficult thing to have done), that it would cause a distortion and not just producing a blurry pic like that.
Looks more like something has been smeared across the lens cover.
It's not the lens that bended, it's the protective screen on top of the lense. Looks like glass to me, but it's possible to be plastic. Any way, i doubt it could bend unless you put a lot of pressure on it.
As I said, it was in the front pocket of a not so tight pants, so there might be little pressure, normal pressure as every cell phone suffers in this situation, but nothing exceptional, not much. Nobody sat on my lap as well... That would be a worthy reason at least.
I've had smartphones for the last 6 years, done the same thing since. I'm not asking for a replacement or whatever, so I have no reason to minimize my responsibility.
My point in posting is that it happened. Just trying let others know to not make the same mistake. It is not as solid a construction as, say, the HTC HD2. It needs more care.
Just beware, hope it does not happen to others.
PS: And no heat also, not a teenager anymore to have so much heat near the crotch area...
PPS: Yes, it is the protective screen. My hope is I can get rid of it, and have my camera back. Unprotected, but taking photos, with lots of care from now on...
OP, stupid question: that lens glass out of the box was protected with a transparent plastic film I think, just like the screen. Did you remove it?
Can you make a shot of the lens using a bathroom mirror perhaps, in macro mode?
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I've had smartphones for the last 6 years, done the same thing since. I'm not asking for a replacement or whatever, so I have no reason to minimize my responsibility.
My point in posting is that it happened. Just trying let others know to not make the same mistake. It is not as solid a construction as, say, the HTC HD2. It needs more care.
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I agree with your here. The way Samsung designed the back of the phone makes it very easy to scratch/ even bend (like it happened to you) the protective screen. I had a HTC Touch HD before and the back of the camera could never touch the surface where the phone was put. With Samsung if you put your phone on a rugged area you might end up damaging the protective screen easily.
Have you been using the LED as a torch or anything like that? Perhaps the heat could have warped the plastic?
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OP, stupid question: that lens glass out of the box was protected with a transparent plastic film I think, just like the screen. Did you remove it?
Can you make a shot of the lens using a bathroom mirror perhaps, in macro mode?
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Sure, I took the plastic out. I saw no point in having a very good phone camera weakened by the plastic.
I tried to take the photo you asked, but was not successful. But as I said it was a very small bend, which makes the light enter the lens like a prism. Very difficult to photograph with a normal camera.
Actually, there was a power outage in the area I'm in now, but I don't recollect to use torch that much... I remember I used it for a while, the used some screen light, then on to Kindle. Id on't suppose it was torch, but could it really be so silly like this?!
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Sure, I took the plastic out. I saw no point in having a very good phone camera weakened by the plastic.
I tried to take the photo you asked, but was not successful. But as I said it was a very small bend, which makes the light enter the lens like a prism. Very difficult to photograph with a normal camera.
Actually, there was a power outage in the area I'm in now, but I don't recollect to use torch that much... I remember I used it for a while, the used some screen light, then on to Kindle. Id on't suppose it was torch, but could it really be so silly like this?!
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Wow, I just tried pushing on mine with my nail, it moves a teeny tiny bit, but it springs right back up Maybe something in your pocket just happened to touch the middle of that little piece of plastic, and just managed to apply enough force to bend it beyond the recovery point, so your plastic piece did not spring back up.
I fully understand what you mean now. But not sure what your options are. It is clearly a physical damage. I would not advise trying to take that piece out and bend it straight, you will mess up the actual lens.
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flash back stock firmware, reset custom download counter with jig, return under warranty saying the camera takes blurry pictures
godutch said:
flash back stock firmware, reset custom download counter with jig, return under warranty saying the camera takes blurry pictures
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I believe warranty doesn't cover physical damage though.
Ingvarr said:
I believe warranty doesn't cover physical damage though.
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they wont know if you dont tell them plus they wont inspect the phone in that detail closely at the camera, worth a try. IF you bough it from a store, bring it back there and get a replacement.
Hi,
I have the same issue as yours.
Where is your SGS2 made in when you take out the battery and look at the back sticker?
Mine says "Made in China"
Wonder if yours is made in Korea or China.
Please share~
I would send it in too, your chances are good to get it repaired!
Mine is made in: Korea
I would try to replace it if I had bought it in my country. I bought it through a friend from Xpansys US (a UK phone), and I'm now in Brazil. I guess I would have so many troubles with customs here to send it out and back with no guarantee to have it replaced...
My idea is not to take the plastic out, and try to fix it. It is to just take out. I will have a hole there, but there will be nothing distorting light that comes into the lens. I will have to be extra careful, but considering how easy the plastic which was supposed to protect the camera was damaged, extra care is the name of this phone for me.
And I'm not complaining about SGS2's plastic finish as opposed to the metal/glass ones of iPhone or HTC. I actually like this, including the back cover. After you get used to it, it is kind of cool. And it is light. I just wished there was a cover or that Samsung used a hard glass on the camera, or perhaps that the plastic was so tiny and receeded that nothing could reach it. I always like the way Sony and Nokia used to put a sliding cover over the camera lens in their phones. With such a thin phone as ours, I wouldn't mind the extra thickness. Or like my HTC Kaiser, where the plastic was actually on the cover. If it was scratched or broken you could replace the back cover... Sorry, just venting my frustration.
Don't leave that hole uncovered. Your lens will get dirty in no time. Pocket lint , dust and dirt will accumulate in there and break the lens autofocus mechanism. Just don't even think about leaving that hole uncovered.
Hello all,
I was wondering if its safe to use the phone without a case. I kind of like its design but i am rather afraid that the camera will break because it stands out way too much.
I already have a case,temp glass for screen and camera applied but i have started disliking my cases so far.
My question to you all is, do you really use a cover case to protect the camera or is it safe to take it off?
With cover is the best way, my phone have a scratch on top of the edge just hitting a furniture with a case on it
It's way too slippery to use without a case. I use it without a case a lot and have already dented the corner from a drop.
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I like the design and feel of the phone too, but I use a case just to protect the camera. Even with the case that came with the phone, the camera was scratched up because the case is too thin. I now use a different case that's slightly thicker.
Sadly same thoughts, its too much of a risk. I had it one day without a case and its too risky, if only camera didnt stand out that much.
Back to flip case.
I work in construction and never use cases with any of my phones. I just hate the looks and added bulk. I already dropped mine quite a few times, even from head height, still working fine lol. Its just the same as with any other phone. Its neither more nor less slippery, and since its made from metal you wont get breaks in the body, worst case scenario a dent. I dont see this phone having any resell value after few years, and since it cost so little, i prefer enjoying how good it feels in hand and how slim it is rather than making it ugly and fat like oukitel or some other ****ty cheap chinese phone. Last time i used a case it actually made damage instead of protecting the phone. Small particles of dust got inside case and scratched whole backside of my nexus 6p, never again. And whats with the camera lens concerns? it has a small lip, so it should be enough to protect against flat surfaces, and no case gonna protect against other damage, like keys or stuff.
I would not but depends on your use
I somehow have a scratch on my fingerprint sensor. It works fine but...
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I somehow have a scratch on my fingerprint sensor. It works fine but...
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How does someone even manage that?
jts2111 said:
How does someone even manage that?
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I'm a mechanic. Might be part of it.
Got an amazing deal on what was supposed to be one of these in new open-box condition and was incredibly happy with its performance, speed, and compactness until I opened the Camera app. There is a line that seems to run across the main shooter and when you aim it at any sort of light it seems to interact with some sort of crack, scratch or something that's inside the lens and distorts the image.
I've been taking a close look and close pictures of the camera and lens but just can't find where the physical damage is (if any) and I just can't wrap my head around how such a thing would even happen to begin with. I installed all of the available software updates and then GCam but same thing as in the built-in app. Tried to wipe the lens with a water/rubbing alcohol mixture and a microfiber towel and nothing. Photos taken with the black and white camera come out as they should so I know it's not a software issue. Here's the pictures:
https://imgur.com/a/IIaYdzj
I took a video and that's where things get even weirder! It becomes a line that seems to follow the lens instead as you move the phone, not a static/physical line that's always there. Here's a video:
https://imgur.com/a/YCSW4Lt
This is a real head scratcher. Have any of y'all seen or experienced anything like this?
it looks like an eyelash
mruno said:
it looks like an eyelash
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I thought it could be something similar to that, but at this point not really sure. I took my electric duster with the two high-pressure attachments to it on the highest setting, trying to see if I could force air to go inside through the secondary microphone hole next to the cameras, the very small gap between the camera, flash and ceramic back and even the gap at the top between the ceramic and the frame and move whatever it is in there out of the way to no avail.
This issue pretty much makes the main camera unusable but I was wondering if anyone else had this happen and was able to fix it and if so how. Obviously I just got the phone so I'm not gonna take it apart until I can get access to the cameras and physically remove whatever is in there since I bought it through eBay and I can return or exchange it but based on the fact I asked the seller specifics about the condition and their answer that everything worked properly I expected it to and right after getting the phone I bought prepaid service for it that now I can't return. Sigh.
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I thought it could be something similar to that, but at this point not really sure. I took my electric duster with the two high-pressure attachments to it on the highest setting, trying to see if I could force air to go inside through the secondary microphone hole next to the cameras, the very small gap between the camera, flash and ceramic back and even the gap at the top between the ceramic and the frame and move whatever it is in there out of the way to no avail.
This issue pretty much makes the main camera unusable but I was wondering if anyone else had this happen and was able to fix it and if so how. Obviously I just got the phone so I'm not gonna take it apart until I can get access to the cameras and physically remove whatever is in there since I bought it through eBay and I can return or exchange it but based on the fact I asked the seller specifics about the condition and their answer that everything worked properly I expected it to and right after getting the phone I bought prepaid service for it that now I can't return. Sigh.
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I'm not entirely convinced it is physical given the way it moves position on screen when you move the camera. If it was physical wouldn't it stay in the same position? Then I thought must be a reflection but even that doesn't make sense as it appears to move independently ie still moves when you have stopped panning the camera, which seems more like an image processing or auto focus issue maybe? Though it could still bye a hair and the apparent movement is just caused eg focus. Strange.
Does it remain even with light source coming from all different angles eg left, right, top, bottom?
Does it remain in same place on stills when you do different focal lengths eg close ups?
As a workaround maybe moving it with "electrostatic charge" will be possible if it is debris, as I've seen it done in sealed units. Though only a small chance this will work if debris on glass cover & no chance if it's in the sealed lens unit assembly it might not move (see assembly here https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/UKOASSYDwDAfbVro.large but that should have been made in a clean room so more likely debris is on window cover, I'd think). Discharge with ESD earthed wrist band or antistatic cloth ... OK most people don't have them so a damp/sweaty finger will have to do ? (which will mean it is at the same PD as you). Then rub glass lens cover with a synthetic cloth to create a charge on surface or charge a glass rod/plastic ruler and touch glass cover (edit: try alt polarity on cloth). Repeat discharge /charge cycle. Cross fingers first as this is a long shot & I'm not sure if there is a gap!!!