Charging Issues; Need advice - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
First off I want to preface this by saying I have my bootloader unlocked, rooted, running a 6.0.1 ROM.
This past weekend I noticed that my phone wasn't charging on a generic 4 port USB charger that I have. Made sure it had power, tried it on my tablet I had laying around, and eventually got it to charge using a different cable. No problem, stuff like that happens. Noticed it was "charging slowly" Hmm..wonder if the USB charger is going back. Tried it other places, but always getting EXTREMELY slow charges. Unfortunately I had my OEM charger at work at my desk so I couldn't try that but I have a QuickCharge 2.0 car charger that I tried. I plugged it in there and I was actually LOSING charge at what seems like a faster rate than just a normal drain. WTF!?
Got to my destination (going to my buddy's house) and tried a few of his chargers; same thing, "charging slowly". Made it through the weekend, got home and the problem is still going on with all my chargers.
So today, I get to work to try my OEM quickcharge and it drains my battery as well! Oh boy. This is bad.
Anyone else experience this? Since I've unlocked bootloader and no extended warranty AND the fact that Moto Support is god awful anyway, I'm screwed when it comes to professional help. Anyone have luck opening up this beast and fixing anything? Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.

My phone isn't charging very well either. I went out to do some errands and phone was on 84% saying it'll be charged in 35 minutes I came home three hours later it's still on 84% with 35 minutes to go and burning up to touch. This is already my fourth Moto X in the week.

xBkKx said:
My phone isn't charging very well either. I went out to do some errands and phone was on 84% saying it'll be charged in 35 minutes I came home three hours later it's still on 84% with 35 minutes to go and burning up to touch. This is already my fourth Moto X in the week.
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Fourth with issues? Hope it's not related to the same charger.
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dottat said:
Fourth with issues? Hope it's not related to the same charger.
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Not the same charger but all four different chargers the phone comes with. I ordered it on Amazon with next day arrival and the first two phones had dead pixels third one was reading 138 degrees with ampere while charging and would stop and fourth (current) refuses to charge past 84% unless I have the phone off I noticed. I unlocked the bootloader on this current one though so I don't think I'll be able to exchange it now

sreister said:
Hello,
First off I want to preface this by saying I have my bootloader unlocked, rooted, running a 6.0.1 ROM.
This past weekend I noticed that my phone wasn't charging on a generic 4 port USB charger that I have. Made sure it had power, tried it on my tablet I had laying around, and eventually got it to charge using a different cable. No problem, stuff like that happens. Noticed it was "charging slowly" Hmm..wonder if the USB charger is going back. Tried it other places, but always getting EXTREMELY slow charges. Unfortunately I had my OEM charger at work at my desk so I couldn't try that but I have a QuickCharge 2.0 car charger that I tried. I plugged it in there and I was actually LOSING charge at what seems like a faster rate than just a normal drain. WTF!?
Got to my destination (going to my buddy's house) and tried a few of his chargers; same thing, "charging slowly". Made it through the weekend, got home and the problem is still going on with all my chargers.
So today, I get to work to try my OEM quickcharge and it drains my battery as well! Oh boy. This is bad.
Anyone else experience this? Since I've unlocked bootloader and no extended warranty AND the fact that Moto Support is god awful anyway, I'm screwed when it comes to professional help. Anyone have luck opening up this beast and fixing anything? Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.
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Question to OP: DId you ever find a resolution? I have recently noticed that my XT1575 (currently restored to stock 6.0 but still unlocked) actually LOSES charge while "charging" (as reported in Battery setting) in my Car (12vDC) and on my motorcycle (12vDC). Granted, I am running GMaps and streaming music running, among other apps... In fact, I just saw the charge drop from 74% to 68% in about 15 mins while driving this morning... On the other hand, when plugged into AC Turbo charger, I can run all those apps and then some, and charging, the battery charge goes up 1-2% per minute... Wondering if anyone else has seen similar issue when charging via DC current?

ech1253 said:
Question to OP: DId you ever find a resolution? I have recently noticed that my XT1575 (currently restored to stock 6.0 but still unlocked) actually LOSES charge while "charging" (as reported in Battery setting) in my Car (12vDC) and on my motorcycle (12vDC). Granted, I am running GMaps and streaming music running, among other apps... In fact, I just saw the charge drop from 74% to 68% in about 15 mins while driving this morning... On the other hand, when plugged into AC Turbo charger, I can run all those apps and then some, and charging, the battery charge goes up 1-2% per minute... Wondering if anyone else has seen similar issue when charging via DC current?
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now that I think about it, its DC going into the phone regardless of the source, so the type current is not a factor... so assuming I don't have bad cables, what could be causing the difference?
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Upon further research I just discovered and ordered a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 capable car adapter... I'll bet the "standard" usb power the phone can draw from a cheap car adapter isn't sufficient to effectively charge on top of streaming, GPS mapping, Bluetooth stereo and screen on... Lets,see what the new 2.0 QC adapter can do next week....
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I've noticed issues with the charging port. I have two brand new 25w turbo chargers and neither of them connect/charge my phone. I got an OEM USB cable and connected it to my old Droid Turbo charger and that is the only charger that works for me. Bummer. Was considering sending back the phone to moto, but I'm unlocked and have a feeling they would not repair/research it...
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You can download an app called "Ampere" it will actually show you the charge and discharge rate that the phone is doing. Might help out in determining what is wrong.

For those experiencing issues with the device not charging to 100% when it is extremely hot, this is normal behavior. This is from Motorola...
Some facts on battery temperature
* Devices need their space; There are no on-board fans, cooling relies solely on the device being able to dissipate heat through the air. To help cooling, ensure the device is not in a pocket, purse, carrying case, or direct sunlight.
* Normal temperature is (97f) ~36c
* A user will begin to sense a “warm” device at 106f (~41c) and it will seem hot at 109f (~43c)
* Cool Down Mode kicks in at 152f (67c)
* Batteries with temps => 113f to 140f (45c to 60c) will not charge to 100% capacity
* Battery temps >140f (60c)will not charge at all
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Charging while in use

If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
perigee said:
If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
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Are you using the OEM charger?
perigee said:
If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
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Mine doesn't it keeps going up, though I haven't tried playing games. It does depend on what you are doing with the device, if you are running applications that max out the processor it will possibly drop.
The GSII would drain while plugged in if the screen was on. You would see a noticeable drain while using GPS and Music and driving. The only way to make it work was to turn the screen off on the device, the GSIII has a better charging chip in it, and it isn't limited to 650maH (from what I can tell since it is charging when using GPS)
I noticed it while using a usb car cigarette adapter as well as a usb port on my laptop. the car adapter is a 2 amp charger capable of charging a tablet. I will see how it performs with the oem wall charger.
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Yeah I was charging my phone earlier using a car was adapter with the oem micro usb cable and they phone got very hot.
What do you guys think? Is this a cause for concern? Do I need to buy a manufacturer approved adapter?
Is it safe to leave the phone plugged in overnight? I usually charge the phone when I go to bed, but I've the this might damage some batteries.
hyped89 said:
Is it safe to leave the phone plugged in overnight? I usually charge the phone when I go to bed, but I've the this might damage some batteries.
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I'm curious about this myself....I'm leaning towards not leaving mine plugged all night. I 2 have done this in the past with other phones and can't be certain but maybe this is a rEason I had horrible batt life despite efforts to Better it. So I'm gonna stick with charging/topping off when I can. Gonna start just charging when I wake up while I'm getting ready for work. I did notice that when battery is completely charged a message comes up telling u so and to unplug. So I'm gonna follow directions haha.
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All modern smartphones have chips that control power, and cycle charging appropriately to not abuse the battery. Many phones monitor the temp of the battery and such to ensure a good and safe charge. You can leave it plugged in overnight just fine..
It definitely doesn't like 3rd party adapters. I'm hoping it will at least accept the tab adapter with samsung's cable so that I can charge it at work without buying a dozen chargers, but...
(One charger I used is understandable - turns out its only 300ma. Whoops! But using full 1A chargers wasn't helping either, it went up maybe 1% every 15 mins. The stock charger ran it up fast enough that it was charged from 70% in under an hour.)
I use SetCPU and have a setting to reduce the clock when it exceeds a temperate parameter. You could also set a max clock for when it is plugged into a USB (Computer/Car charger). That could help it stay cooler and charge faster while not plugged into the wall.
I charged from empty to full this morning when plugged into the wall in about 3 hours. I haven't tested on my computer yet.
I went through this when I first got my Evo 4G. I did not realize at the time that the 500mA charger I was using with my Blackberry Storm (horrible device) would not charge my Evo while doing anything power intensive (like using GPS) and I quickly drained it on a car trip.
I went on Amazon and bought a $20 Schosche iPad charger that claimed to provide 2.1A which should be plenty. On that charger the phone would charge while using GPS but very, very slowly.
After some more research I found that some chargers caused the phone to switch into "USB" charging mode and others would switch it to "AC" mode which would draw much more power and charge faster.
This is the charger I ended up with and it works great:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=6766&seq=1&format=2
My Evo charges just as fast as it does on the OEM wall charger. I don't have my SIII yet (thanks Verizon for being the LAST in the US to ship them out...) so I can't yet say if this holds true for the SIII but I assume it will. At $1.22 it's not much of a gamble.

Wireless Charging meltdowns [Rev 1 hardware problem]

UPDATE March 16th 2016
The new phone has been wireless charging fine. It has been over 2 months and still no "issues".
On my travel charger, about once an hour, it would freak out and stop charging. It was fine at home charging on my Nokia pucks.
However this warranty replacement has wireless network issues. It randomly just displays a message saying Network Disconnected... and when it's charging and reaches 100%, it starts to make this high pitched squeal. It wakes me up at night and I have to remove it, which defeats the purpose.
I have been super sensitive with QC 2.0 fast charging. I've used it a few times at home and in the car to give a quick boost, but never ever let it stay on a Fast charge for extended periods or overnight.
I think I am going to ask for a different phone from Verizon. Root and custom days are over for most carrier devices. I wanted to conclude this test.
UPDATE January 13th 2016
New replacement is fine. Called Verizon and found they are aware that Hardware Rev1 has a bad (abondoned) wireless charging chip and has been updated in Rev2.
Unforunately they cannot guarantee a Rev2 during a warranty replacement. So that sucks.
UPDATE January 11th 2016
The G4 is just screwed up. I am calling for another replacement. This time, NO Fast Charging at all. I think it has a bad chipset in them.
UPDATE January 9th 2016
My QI Charging completely died. Multiple batteries, Stickers, Chargers. Nothing. Qi puck wouldn't even turn on the charging LED at all. Absolutely dead. I have been using my QC 2.0 Fast charging at the house and in the car. Last night I charged off a 500mAh USB charger. And this morning it is Qi Charging just fine. I threw it on multiple pucks, multiple times throughout the day.
I think this concludes that it HAS to be a programming problem with the phone with QC 2.0 chargers and the power expectations of the input. I think it gets stuck in a rut after doing a QC 2.0 Fast charge and receiving the super fast charge. Afterward I think the Qi's lower power output, the phone thinks it is a bad connection and rejects it. It will either attempt to make a connection (cycles on, off, on, off, on forever) or just nothing at all.
I will continue testing this. At this point it is charging fine. I will refrain from using any fast chargers and see how long it lasts before freaking out again. After a week, I will fast charge and see if I can "break" it and "fix" it. Perhaps it just needs a good overnight of a 500mAh slow charge to "reset" it's database or something.
UPDATE January 1st 2016 Happy New Year
I can't figure out the Wireless Charging on this phone. I bought a LG Qi Circle Case. Still having issues. I went back to the stock back + my Rev.2 Qi Sticker.
It is still wonky. It was working for a while, then got worse and worse. It seems to have something to do with Quick Charging and wireless charging.
I think the phone has some weird bug where it gets used to the super fast quick charges and expects a specific amount of power, but then when you throw it on a slower Wireless Charger later, it still expects the same high inputs of power and just, maybe, keeps cutting the connection hoping for a better one.
I DID prop up my Qi Sticker charging tabs with a small roll of tape and it seems to be holding fine for now.
This really sucks. Between the Touchscreen issue, Qi Issues, and locked bootloader... I think this might be my last LG device.
UPDATE December 1st 2015
Still goofy. A factory reset seemed to help but it is iffy at best. Works perfect sometimes. On, off, on, off, no problem. Other (most) times just starts and stops constantly.
It seems now it'll charge for 5-10 minute before it starts getting wonky. Starts and charges for a while, then freaks out. Start, stop, start, stop, etc.
I woke up this morning with 43%.
I think the phone is faulty. I plan on swapping it via carrier warranty. Who knows if that's a good solution but my original G4 charged great after a few weeks of "breaking it in". It was wonky for a few weeks but ironed out and worked for months. My 2nd replacement phone worked for a few weeks and then stopped.
UPDATE November 14th, 2015
The initial success proved to be a fluke. At this point I factory Reset and now it is charging better.
Prior to the factory reset, I ordered a new V2 sticker. So that is 3 different stickers, 3 different batteries, and multiple Qi Chargers. All performed the same. As a last resort before replacing the device, I factory reset via Recovery (VolumeDown+Power on boot). I tested prior to doing any setup and it was working as it should. I even tested with the other stickers and batteries now charge normally after a factory reset.
So my initial conclusion went out the window. How a software reset could affect a hardware issue as simple as charging is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is a meltdown of some process. Typically reports (and even in my case) is that it typically works for about a month before it breaks down. Time will tell.
I have a Verizon VS986 btw. We are running on older 11A (latest) firmware. This may be something that gets patched out in other variants... hopefully.
UPDATE November 10th, 2015:
My Tests show it is the battery that causes the constant start/stop/start/stop > over heating > lockups
If you have a promotional or extended battery, try using that one. I have 2 LG G4s (1 replacement), 3 batteries, 2 Qi Backs, several Qi pucks. My issue/lockups/crashes/aggravation was only when I used my ORIGINAL OUT OF THE BOX BATTERY.
The Promotional Battery and the Out of the Box Battery are different. They have the same model number but different markings and text layouts. I think they are 2 different batteries. I think the included battery is faulty in some cases. I NEVER had any problems charging via hardwire though. Only Qi.
My theory is that the ORIGINAL battery just wasn't getting enough juice via the Qi charger to allow a charge. It sees the initial connection, but drops it for some reason and retries. This is why I think some pucks work better than others. Users have reported changing to a "higher quality" puck stopped the nightly reboots/lockups. Perhaps it was sending MORE power, enough to keep a steady charge flowing.
Where the PROMOTIONAL and Extended battery are normal and just take what they can get.
Makes sense right!
Here is the link to Post 47 for my tests:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63759324&postcount=47
Original Post:
There are several Wireless Sticker threads and an issue that comes up is that while charging overnight, the phone freaks out and locks up. You can see the launcher icons, but the background resets to default and crashes constantly to a black background over and over until it resets. The problem is random and doesn't happen every night. Some times it happens multiple times a night. It seems there is an issue with the G4 ONCES it reaches 100. Possibly the constant "re-up" to maintain 100% is triggering some service meltdown. It is very odd. We have found that different chargers yield different results. I know some of the cheaper Qi pads will not trickle charge and just turn off after 100% (you wake up with 78% battery). Others have found different stickers have been the culprit. Some speculate the curve of the device causes the coils to not receive a constant charge (creates variances in mAh).
Something is causing it. I figured a dedicated thread to get to the bottom of it would help spread awareness and help get to the bottom of it.
All Wireless Charging users are encouraged to participate but posts such as "mine charges just fine" is not helpful here. So I want to try and stick to a format:
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[b]G4 Model: [/b]
[b]Sticker or Official: [/b]
[b]Qi Charger: [/b]
[b]Launcher: [/b]
[b]DPI Used: [/b]
[b]Alarm Usage: [/b]
For me:
G4 Model: Verizon G4
Sticker or Official: Sticker from Ebay
Qi Charger: Nokia Puck
Launcher: Nova
DPI: 540 or 560 (can't remember but I changed it)
Alarm Usage: Used Daily for 7:30am
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Sprint G4
Yootech circle case with qi
Yootech puck
Nova launcher
Alarm set to 6:00, 6:30, 7:00 daily.
Dpi = stock setting
What I've noticed:
If I allow the phone to charge to 100% and use it for a bit but not allow charge to dip below 100%, then set it back on the puck (cuz i just wasn't done sleeping yet)... This is when I noticed a hot phone and it freaked out.
The following night, I cleared all apps before setting on the puck and never removed it. Woke up to a normal phone.
Following night I did NOT clear apps but left it on the puck all night. Woke up to a normal phone.
Have not been intentionally been able to duplicate a hot, freaked out phone.
Hope this helps.
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T-Mobile H811 G4.
Aliexpress sticker.
Any wireless charger.
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This sounds something like a voltage issues seen when using off branded (i.e., ebay) batteries or inferior charging cables. Both can be found to routinely cause phone freak out, lock up, jittering, etc. Just a piece of info to drop in to consider.
T-Mobile user with a sticker from Aliexpress. No issues normally, but there was one occasion when I woke up and my phone was piping hot.
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MicroMod777 said:
T-Mobile H811 G4.
Aliexpress sticker.
Any wireless charger.
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I thought you had problems with the nokia
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I thought you had problems with the nokia
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Nope. Tried 3 charges and still lockup.
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I think one parameter might be the way the charger is plugged. Even with a very good pad, if not using wall plug but some lower voltage source like usb plug on appliances (computer/TV/console/...) the charging often goes on and off, probably due to the non flat back of the phone. The type of back (leather or plastic) may play a role here too.
I'm wondering if the instability of the charging could make the phone go crazy?
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Nope. Tried 3 charges and still lockup.
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Oh so all chargers lock up. I read your post as 3 chargers and no problems.
I have tried replicating the issue with no luck. Someone said they think it is when it reaches 100% and still charging. Perhaps the on/off behavior of the charger top off? One night I woke up at 3am and it was locked up, rebooted, threw it back on the charger, and woke up at 7am it was locked up again.
Hopefully now there is a root process we can get some more information.
For me, it typically locks up 3-5 days a week.
Now this may help, I was at work, trying to charge my phone before I left to get the train home, to make sure I had plenty of charge to last the journey. It was charging, using a cable, for about half an hour, and was just quite hot, but the percentage wasn't increasing... (when I charge, I make it practice to just put on charge, and leave it alone, screen off, in order to get the quickest charge possible)
Never happened before, or after that. But maybe this isn't just related to the wireless charging, maybe there is a scenario with a particular app or something that is causing this to occur, rather than the fact its wireless charging?
I haven't had any issues with my QI charger though, although for now I'm not using it anymore, as I've gone back to the standard battery cover, and am awaiting a QI sticker in the post (couldn't get along with the quickcircle case, the flaps drive me mad)
G4 Model: H815 (EU)
Sticker or Official: NeWisdom från Aliexpress
Qi Charger: HTC ~ 1,2A charger + LG WCP-300 Qi-charger
Launcher: Nova
Have experienced 3 times that the phone is set to charge at bed time and then is around 95% battery in the morning, still on the charger. Launcher has crashed and all I see is a black screen. Then some kind of reload and my wall paper is back to default, for some reason..
Edit: After changing charger, both NeWisdom sticker & QuickCircle CFR-100 case both works fine.
That is typical Konstigt
I used a different launcher last night, Acrion Launcher 2, and it was crashed this morning. Default wallpaper, black screen, same as above.
I am not sure it is a downloadable app, but a stock background app maybe. The reason I dont believe it is a 3rd party app is because it will lock up on a freshly rebooted phone with no apps running.
G4 model: H811 rooted
Sticker: NeWisdom
Qi Charger: Ghost 100 model no. PW-130
Launcher: stock
Only problem have is finding the sweet spot on charger to get it charging, sometimes takes minute or so to get going but other than that no lock ups, etc. Also phone is at 100% after being on all night.
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G4 Model: Verizon G4 (VS986)
Sticker or Official: NeWisdom (Upgraded Chip) sticker via Amazon
Qi Charger: CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless 3-Coil Charger
Launcher: Nova Prime
DPI Used: Stock
Alarm Usage: Rarely
I installed the upgraded NeWisdom sticker a couple weeks ago, and I've been charging wirelessly each night since then. I have yet to experience any lockups. It does get hotter and charge slower than my previous phones that used OEM wireless charging backs (Galaxy S5, Note 4) or came with wireless charging built-in (Droid Turbo) when using the same wireless charger.
The only thing I haven't tried is a different charger. I really want to keep using my Nokia puck because it works very well and easy to just throw down.
I am getting really annoyed by this Qi crap.
G4 Model: H815 (EU)
Sticker or Official: fonesalesman Sticker from Amazon.de
Qi Charger: Nokia DT-900, LG WCD-110, EasyChee T900
Launcher: Stock / Nova
I've had several crashes during wireless charging from beginning on. I've ordered a qi-sticker from fonesalesman along with the phone and put in on since it arrived. It crashed on day one with stock launcher and nearly no settings made. And it still chrashes after I configured all apps and using nova as launcher. Also tried different chargers...
Today I could watch it crash in the office. The phone went up to 100% and the charger (EasyChee T900) stopped charging for a moment. After a while it changed from no charging to charging in an arbitrary rhythym. One moment it charged for 1-2 Minutes, then no charging for 30 seconds, then charging again for a couple of minutes. Sometimes in between it changed states several times within 30 seconds... As I wanted to check I had the same symptom you all got.
Yeah this is the problem. I guess we just wait for a custm rom to see if the problem can be fixed.
Anyone able to grab a logcat? Maybe there is some app that monitors the qi charge and freaks out.
Anyone running a custom rom able to test this? I saw an AOSP rom in development. Hopefully it isnt a kernel issue.
Konstigt said:
G4 Model: H815 (EU)
Sticker or Official: NeWisdom från Aliexpress
Qi Charger: HTC ~ 1,2A charger + LG WCP-300 Qi-charger
Launcher: Nova
Have experienced 3 times that the phone is set to charge at bed time and then is around 95% battery in the morning, still on the charger. Launcher has crashed and all I see is a black screen. Then some kind of reload and my wall paper is back to default, for some reason..
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Aha, my HTC chargers output was only 1.0A and my LG WCP-300 should have a 1.8A input. Changed to the stock LG G4 charger to feed my WCP-300 and now I have not seen the issue again. I have also changed to a CFR-100 QuickCircle case.
So good charger + QuickCircle = no problems.
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Aha, my HTC chargers output was only 1.0A and my LG WCP-300 should have a 1.8A input. Changed to the stock LG G4 charger to feed my WCP-300 and now I have not seen the issue again. I have also changed to a CFR-100 QuickCircle case.
So good charger + QuickCircle = no problems.
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I use a Nokia Puck which has a barrel plug. I am assuming the included adapter would run at the proper specs. I haven't tested amperage. But you have problems with the sticker but not with the CircleCase? I am curious if you believe it was the power problem or the sticker problem (or both)
Anyone here have their wireless charging stop working completely?

Charging Stops Overnight

Like a lot of people I charge my phone over night, but with the 6p I wake up in the morning (after a good 8hrs) and its sat on 96-98%. Even though it still says charging.
It's no big deal but when I unplug and plug back in it charges to 100% relatively quickly.
Anyone else see this? I'm using an older charger (from my nexus 4) so may try the proper one tonight.
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Isn't this normal behaviour? Most phones stop topping up the battery even when connected on the charger to avoid wearing off the battery.
I used to have my HTC m7 connected overnight to the charger and even though it showed 100℅ in the morning, as soon as I disconnected it from the main the indictor would drop rapidly to ~95℅ which indicated the above behaviour.
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I've not seen it before. My galaxy s6 always came off charge at 100% as did my nexus4 and the 5x I owned briefly.
If this is normal and happens to other 6p owners I'm happy with that
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Mine is doing this as well. It seems to charge to 100%, stop charging, and not run off power at all. Since I use sleep tracking, in my case, I usually wake up to about a 90% charge. This is the first phone I have seen do this -- they usually charge to 100% and keep running off the charger. I haven't tried the stock 3A charger yet, as there really is no need for a quick charge overnight.
pahardie said:
I've not seen it before. My galaxy s6 always came off charge at 100% as did my nexus4 and the 5x I owned briefly.
If this is normal and happens to other 6p owners I'm happy with that
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How in the world are you using an old charger on a Type-C Connection? (or are you using a converter?... if so, that may be the reason)
Just using a USB A to USB C cable into the power brick from my old phone.
Pretty straightforward really.
I'll try with the proper charger at some point. It's not a big deal.
Mine hasn't done that. Got it Thursday and it's had a full charge each morning. Using the supplied charger
normal behavior. it does that to protect the battery.
Every phone I've ever had charges to 100% and stays running off the charger to stay at 100%. Last night (my first night with the phone) I plugged it in with 31% and woke up with it at 81%. It clearly charged....and then stopped charging only to run off the battery while still plugged in. Not normal for any other device I've owned. I would prefer it to stay at 100% until I'm ready to unplug it. Maybe using the supplied charger will do this. I used a USB A to C cable plugged into USB wall port. I have replaced several outlets in my house to ones with built in 2.1A USB chargers.
318sugarhill said:
Every phone I've ever had charges to 100% and stays running off the charger to stay at 100%. Last night (my first night with the phone) I plugged it in with 31% and woke up with it at 81%. It clearly charged....and then stopped charging only to run off the battery while still plugged in. Not normal for any other device I've owned. I would prefer it to stay at 100% until I'm ready to unplug it. Maybe using the supplied charger will do this. I used a USB A to C cable plugged into USB wall port. I have replaced several outlets in my house to ones with built in 2.1A USB chargers.
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I'm not understanding why anyone would not use the supplied charger and cable.
bobby janow said:
I'm not understanding why anyone would not use the supplied charger and cable.
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Why should it matter? wattage is wattage. Does the phone charge differently with the stock charger? Do you always carry it in your back pocket? Do you ever use a car charger?
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Why should it matter? wattage is wattage. Does the phone charge differently with the stock charger? Do you always carry it in your back pocket? Do you ever use a car charger?
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Carry the phone in my back pocket? No, I don't but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I do not use a car charger either. As for wattage, I believe that the type C 3.1 chargers output at 100W and possibly 200W whereas the one you are using might deliver 18W. There might also be damage due to wiring with some of the 2.0 - 3.1 adapters but I'm still researching that.
So why wouldn't you use the type C charger? Besides, you can't plug it in backwards or upside down. And once you get a computer that supports type C the data transfer rates will be astonishing from what I've read.
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Carry the phone in my back pocket? No, I don't but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I do not use a car charger either. As for wattage, I believe that the type C 3.1 chargers output at 100W and possibly 200W whereas the one you are using might deliver 18W. There might also be damage due to wiring with some of the 2.0 - 3.1 adapters but I'm still researching that.
So why wouldn't you use the type C charger? Besides, you can't plug it in backwards or upside down. And once you get a computer that supports type C the data transfer rates will be astonishing from what I've read.
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Do you carry STOCK charger in your back pocket.
Point is, sometimes I need to charge it at work, or elsewhere as I may use it heavily. That's why I would use another charger. Point is, why does it stop charging on the charger and not draw from the charger once it's full. Like I said, mine charged fully then stopped using the charger drawing from the battery. Kind of pointless if I leave it on the charger to be full when I leave in the morning if it's not going to be full.
I'm glad its not just me who finds this a bit odd.
I used the same charger with my nexus 5x, galaxy s6 and nexus 4 and always found the phone at 100% in the morning.
The 6p obviously works differently.
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Do you carry STOCK charger in your back pocket.
Point is, sometimes I need to charge it at work, or elsewhere as I may use it heavily. That's why I would use another charger. Point is, why does it stop charging on the charger and not draw from the charger once it's full. Like I said, mine charged fully then stopped using the charger drawing from the battery. Kind of pointless if I leave it on the charger to be full when I leave in the morning if it's not going to be full.
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I see what you mean. For a quick boost charge I can see you carrying a cord in your back pocket. I'm really trying to get a full 14-18 hours with this device no matter my usage. If I can't I really cannot justify this expense. I have 4 phones on my plan, a Samsung 5S, two iPhones 6s, and up until yesterday my N5. All other 3 got a full day plus even watching video and listening to music constantly. So no, I'm not carrying a charger, a cord or buying a car charger.
As for your problem of charging, have you tried the stock charger to see if you can get to 100%. I have already twice with no problem. Last night I wanted to unplug it once charged to see how much it drained overnight but I fell asleep at 93% and unplugged a few hours later. 6 hours off the charger it was still at 99% so I'm assuming it charged to 100 or close to it. Perhaps you can do a full charge overnight and then a spot charge during the day if you need. I'm thinking you might not.
I am also having this problem. I am using the included c to a cable to charge with. The phone stops charging around 95% and doesn't charge ever again until I unplug it and plug it back in.
These are the problems with this:
1. Cases where i do not have the included charger with me.
2. On long trips where my phone is plugged in all the time to prevent it from dying. (Streaming music, navigating, etc)
3. Sleep tracking
I'm using the Anker 5 port charging hub at 2A each port.
once your battery gets fully charged 100% - the charging stops to prevent your battery from overcharging. since your battery is not charging - your battery will drop down. once it gets down to 95% - charging resumes until it gets back to 100%.
in other words - that is normal.
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once your battery gets fully charged 100% - the charging stops to prevent your battery from overcharging. since your battery is not charging - your battery will drop down. once it gets down to 95% - charging resumes until it gets back to 100%.
in other words - that is normal.
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Every other phone I have ever had did not do this and instead trickle charged at 100% and ran everything off of the charging port, never had a phone that constantly drops to 95% then back to 100%, that would be a roller coaster during car trips. The problem I'm experiencing is not that situation either; the phone will stop charging and never get charged again, so it could drop to 80% while connected to the charger. It knows it's connected to a charger, but doesn't draw current from it. Doesn't show the charging icon or charging AC, but the lock screen shows the percentage of battery.
I do have possibly some positive observations however. Last night I decided to try it without my USB 3.0 extension cable, and only the measly 1 foot c to a cable Google provided. Without the extension cable my phone charged as it should, went to 100% and stayed there with the charging symbol still on the battery icon. Upon removal of the charger, the battery stats showed only 3 seconds of use, whereas before it would just show everything since last 100% (which was sometimes 50 hours even though i charge my phone every night). I'd have to keep observing this to see if it was indeed the extension cable.
That's interesting wrt the extension cable. I have a extension as well. Will get rid and see what happens. I keep meaning to try stock charger and stock cable but can't be bothered.
It's not normal behaviour or else it'd happen on other phones. I've had nexus 4 iPhone 4s htc one m8 Samsung galaxy s6 iPhone 5s and nexus 5x all using the same charger / extension all have charged to 100% and stayed there.. Except the 6p.
It's not a massive deal, typically it'll loose 1 or 2 percent over night once it's been to 100.
Just an update, it was the extension cable. Phone charges to 100 at stays there until unplugged as is expected behavior. Just don't use USB extension cables to charge devices

Brand new G4 Play Battery Issue

I bought a brand new unlocked Moto G4 Play from.Amazon Prime last week. Between purchasing it on Prime and the phone being old and OOP I got a great deal. However, I'm having a couple issues.
The first is with the battery. It charges insanely slow. Yesterday morning I had it plugged in for 3+ hours and it only charged 70%, from 15% to 85%. Also, for a battery rated at 2800mAH, it seems to drain fairly quick. Is it possible that the battery lost some of it's power while sitting around in the Amazon warehouse for so long?
My second issue is with file transfers onto my Mac. This is the third Android phone I've owned and it's the first to.cause my computer to freeze up when connecting it via USB. The charger that came with the phone is just one piece, I.e you can't disconnect the USB cable from the outlet plug. I had rummage around for a USB cable to use. It's an old cable, so I think that's what could be causing my.computer to.freeze. I'm gonna buy a new USB cable today and hopefully it fixes the problem.
Getting back to the battery, is there an app the can analyze my battery? So I can find out if it's defective or just not running at 100%? Any other suggestions on what I can do to remedy this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Adam
As far as apps go you can check the Play Store, and go by rating to see what is best for you. I use this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsinib.batterymonitor
Charging with the stock charger will take hours. It's only rated at like 527 mamps (or whatever it's called), but it will never charge fast. I use a 2 amp quick charger, and from around 20% to 100% it takes just about an hour.
The drain may be because it's new, and getting settled in, so it should get better after a bit of time. Plus it does take a couple charge cycles to reach its full charging potential. I get an easy 5 1/2 to 6 hours screen on time on a full charge.
Now for using a computer I don't have experience with Macs, but I have heard issues with Android and Macs not playing well together. Maybe newer/better cable will help.
I've used 3C Battery Monitor Widget.
Like said above, the charger that comes with it is very low power, you can charge faster with a 1 - 2 amp charger and it won't hurt anything since there is built-in circuitry in the phone to control charging.
When I first got my G4 Play, I charged it up and let it sit unused for about 2 weeks only checking the battery remaining periodically and it still had ~15% left after 2 weeks on standby.
If your battery doesn't get better, you may want to exchange the phone with Amazon before your return is up.
G4 Play XT1607 Battery Drain
I'd like to revive this post real quick. @adam79 did you get your issue figured out?
I bought a phone from eBay. Ok, a bunch of them. I'm buying broken, fixing, and selling. I have hovered around G4 Plays as that is what I learned with and am slightly comfortable with. This new issue has got me stumped though.
Moto G4 Play - listing stated 'will not power on or charge'. No problem, I have extra parts. I tried to plug it in and sure 'nuff, no power. Tried another battery and she fired right up with Marshmallow already reset. I replaced the charging board and it started charging but it was hot. Hotter than normal I thought. Said that it would take 3 hours to fully charge from 71%. Whatever. She wanted the update to 7.1.1 just like the two xt1609s, the other two xt1607s, and my recent xt1601. I let it update then turned it off. Battery was dead the next morning. Plugged it up and no charging animation appeared. Another battery and it fired up. The heat is coming from the metal plate just above the battery contacts. Drains the battery no matter if it's on or off. What could it be?
Info: XT1607 7.1.1 Nougat
Baseband: M8916_20250112.18.05.45.01R harpia_na_cust
Kernal: 3.10.49-g87b323e [email protected] #1
Build: NPIS26.48-43-2
Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Op5 won't charge past 70%

The past couple months I have had some charging issues with my phone. The first few times it just didn't want to recognize the charger or would only slow charge. A couple times cleaning the port helped. Then it seemed like the cord might be the problem so I ordered a new OEM one. The problem has gotten worse and happens the same with the brand new charger.
The last few days it will fast charge to 70% and then stop charging altogether. I can't get it to take any more than 70%. I had the accubattery app which had a feature to stop the charging at a preset value to prevent wear of the battery. I only used this for a little bit and turned it off. Then I uninstalled the app in case a glitch was causing it to keep stopping the charge.
I have a new OEM battery ready to install if the battery is indeed faulty but even starting at 70% I can't kill the phone in a day so I'm not rushing to replace the battery yet. I'm just not sure that is the problem.
The phone is not rooted and is completely stock. It hasn't been wiped or anything since I bought it new over a year ago. Anyone have any ideas?
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Update: I powered off the phone when it was refusing to charge at all and it was down to 56 percent. While powered off it charged all the way up to 100% no problem and since doing that it will charge without problems. Seems like this fixed it.
Update: the problem is still there. Still not charging above 70% while turned on. Not sure if the battery is failing or if it's a software issue.
Does anyone know of any other forums people might be discussing issues with the OnePlus 5? This forum is looking quiet these days and/or people aren't having a lot of hardware issues with this phone (hopefully).
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Does anyone know of any other forums people might be discussing issues with the OnePlus 5? This forum is looking quiet these days and/or people aren't having a lot of hardware issues with this phone (hopefully).
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The op5 forum isn't quiet. If nobody has an idea or any possible solution for you, you won't receive an answer. Seems you're the only one who has this sort of problem.
If you have warranty, just claim it. That's the easier way. Cause when it's the logic board or parts of it, it can be expensive.
It's already over a year old so no more warranty. I'm just going to try replacing the battery when I get a chance. If that doesn't work I'll try a new charging port (already tried a new charger).
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It's already over a year old so no more warranty. I'm just going to try replacing the battery when I get a chance. If that doesn't work I'll try a new charging port (already tried a new charger).
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Have you tried using the Ampere app? It does not make any magic, but it can give you and idea of what the problem may be.
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Yes I installed it the other day and discovered when I was plugged in above 70% it was actually charging but very slowly. But this isn't always the case because when I first discovered the problem I kept waking up with a phone at 70% that had been plugged in all night.
I'm not sure how long ago this started because I typically try to charge it in the morning after my alarm goes off since dash charging is so fast. Eventually I noticed it never getting above 70% so I plugged it in overnight and still didn't get over 70%.
Accubattery says my battery is now 82% healthy. Despite not being able to charge above 70 I can still get a heavy days usage or a couple easy days. So maybe the lost health in my battery came completely off the top of the displayed percentage of my battery?
Occasionally it seemed like my phone wouldn't charge at all no matter what the percentage so the problem could be worse, but I may also be dealing with a worn out 1 year old charger cable and a new one I got a month ago that is defective because when I couldn't charge at all with the new one the old one charged fine. So I'm still trying to figure this out.
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i am facing the same issue, i keep plugging the charger in and out till it works ... don't know why
Now that I've gone back to the original charger it seems to be making it to 100% every time and no longer seems to stop at 70 but if I move the phone a little while plugged in it sometimes stops dash charging and starts slow charging. Before when I heard it stop charging and start charging again randomly while I was in bed (it makes that little sound when dash charging starts) it was sitting on the floor unmoved.
So I think my possibilities are 1) 2 bad chargers
2) 1 bad charger and a bad charging port
3) bad charging port
4) bad battery + 1 or more bad chargers.
Or any other combinations of those problems. I think I'm dealing with 2 issues and that's why I can't figure it out.

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