So they must have done something serious because i've been unplugged for 15hrs 48min and have 60% battery remaining. Before the update i was lucky to pull 8 hours.
my battery life was amazing as well i went about 19hrs off an on use, text some internet, made some calls....my two spare batteries i got from ebay are now looking like i may not need them lol.
i just popped in one of them and i am going to compare how they stack up against the orig. but for 10.00 two batteries and a batt charger i cant complain
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I m happy with my xoom's battery life now but I am just worrying its battery life will decrease slowly like laptop... we can't buy new batt n replace it since it don't have s battery cover. Any suggestion anyone?
yeah... don't leave it plugged in all the time. Laptop batteries lose their power because ppl leave the battery inside the laptop at all times when it plugged in instead of removing it
Did you search on ifixit.com for their Xoom teardown? If I remember correctly they said it's easily disassembled. Then you might be able to replace the battery if you can find it in stores.
I have no doubt that replacement batteries will be available, and looking at the ifixit.com tear down you could probably have it done in 15 minutes if your good at this kind of stuff.
I agree. Don't store it at 100%, and you'll be fine. Plus, by the time the battery is half as good as it is now, you'll be on your third tablet.
As above, just make sure you don't store it at full charge (100%) for long periods of time, let it run down to like 50-75% and then store it.
LiPo batteries work best when they are kept active above 10%, and not idle for long periods of time above 90% capacity.
And by idle and long periods of time I mean when it's not discharging (as in when it's off).
Just enjoy it and don't worry about when the battery will finally give out! You can cross that bridge if and when you get there.
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Bought a spare battery for Desire HD, mainly to have with me when at football as one battery through the day is simply not enough
Question is, if i charge a battery up, how long will that battery keep its charge whilst not in the phone. Has anyone got any examples of timings and performance. Both batteries are official 1200mAh batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_store_batteries
But since all that's not viable in real life or worth it, I store my battery at 100%. Quite a few times I've used my spare battery a week or so after charging it, and it showed 98-99% when I put it in the phone. Of course that's the phone's reported battery percentage which can be erratic and fluctuate a lot, but when I checked the battery voltage it hadn't decreased by much.
I have 2 spare batteries, both older than my active battery and one slightly bloated and not the best to use (the one I got with the phone). Both are OEM 1230 mAh. I last charged them a week back and didn't use them after. These are the voltages measured with a multimeter as of now -
1st spare battery (1 year 10 months old) - 4.18V
2nd spare battery (1 year 2 months old) - 4.2V
As you can see, that's hardly any decrease in the first one and almost nothing in the second one, considering a full charge is 4.2V (4.204V to be exact). I carry them around with me when I'm outside, so they're exposed to some amount of body heat and ambient heat when the weather is hot. Like I said before, I last charged them one after the other a week ago or a little more than that, and they haven't been used since. So you shouldn't see any significant voltage drop unless you don't use the spare battery for a month or more.
Just in case you weren't aware of this, you can check your battery voltage from your phone easily by keying in *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer and choosing 'battery information'.
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antcox HD said:
Bought a spare battery for Desire HD, mainly to have with me when at football as one battery through the day is simply not enough
Question is, if i charge a battery up, how long will that battery keep its charge whilst not in the phone. Has anyone got any examples of timings and performance. Both batteries are official 1200mAh batteries.
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The battery will retain its charge and best way is to flash a custom ROM like TrickDroid(Sense 4.0). I have it and battery is amazing even with heavy usage.
Just like the title says, I'm not sure it's the last few updates but I'm on nougat. I'm not using power saving but I wasn't before. I haven't really changed more or added any new apps that I can remember. Can anyone advise if they have encountered a similar issue and how you fixed it?
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Just like the title says, I'm not sure it's the last few updates but I'm on nougat. I'm not using power saving but I wasn't before. I haven't really changed more or added any new apps that I can remember. Can anyone advise if they have encountered a similar issue and how you fixed it?
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Same for me. Battery has started draining significantly faster than before. I was told to go into recovery, wipe cache, and reboot but that hasn't fixed it. Although, I don't want too, I may be pushed towards an s8 upgrade if I can't figure out why my battery sucks now.
my battery has sucked from day 1, absolutely the worst phone ever for this. Nougat helped it last a little longer, but it still takes a year and a half to charge compared to past few phones I've owned. Charging from a 2.1amp car charger doesn't move but 3% in 3 hours. My portable battery charger is the same way, can barley budge the phone charge. Yes fast charge is on.
Note 7 and iPhone 6S + both charged just fine with the same vehicles and with the same portable brick charger.
what I still don't get is why with the same hardware specs for the most part minus the screen, why the note 7 was such a drastically better phone for battery life. I thought it was nougat, but that definitely wasn't it. I'm down to 20% battery life left by noon anymore with the S7E. Note 7 wouldn't hit 20% until 10pm at night (day starts around 7-7:30am)
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my battery has sucked from day 1, absolutely the worst phone ever for this. Nougat helped it last a little longer, but it still takes a year and a half to charge compared to past few phones I've owned. Charging from a 2.1amp car charger doesn't move but 3% in 3 hours. My portable battery charger is the same way, can barley budge the phone charge. Yes fast charge is on.
Note 7 and iPhone 6S + both charged just fine with the same vehicles and with the same portable brick charger.
what I still don't get is why with the same hardware specs for the most part minus the screen, why the note 7 was such a drastically better phone for battery life. I thought it was nougat, but that definitely wasn't it. I'm down to 20% battery life left by noon anymore with the S7E. Note 7 wouldn't hit 20% until 10pm at night (day starts around 7-7:30am)
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You might have a defective battery. The fact that it won't charge up and assuming your charger is still good, is telling.
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You might have a defective battery. The fact that it won't charge up and assuming your charger is still good, is telling.
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charges perfectly fine when plugged into the power brick. Used the same cable in the car etc. to no change. Just something about those it hates.
I'm finally going to breakdown at some point and restore it and start over just to make sure. next step will be to see if sprint will replace it. I am thinking I am going to buy an S8E outright here very soon...
Hey xda,
I'm that kind of person who likes to keep his phones for 4-5 years.
To this day I'm still rocking my galaxy s4, many parts are available.
The oneplus 5 looks like a good phone to last at least 5 years, but as everyone knows, batteries fail, in my experience after about 2-2.5 years.
If I look for OPO batteries now, there only seem to be A: original OP batteries which have been laying in some warehouse for 4 years (bad for the battery) And B: third party batteries from questionable manufracturers (having bad reviews).
So my questions are:
What's your experience with oneplus 1/x/2/3 replacement parts (especially batteries) ?
Do you think it will be better with the oneplus 5 ?
(Should we push compagnies like RAVpower and anker to start producing op5 batteries? )
Thanks in advance,
nxss4
The oneplus 5 battery doesn't get hot when charged so theoretically it should last longer
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The oneplus 5 battery doesn't get hot when charged so theoretically it should last longer
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Might be, but it also charges at a greater amperage. And eventually, it will fail..
It's probably too soon to see Op5 batteries on the market since the phone has only been out in Spring. And I think the OnePlus 3/3T was the first OnePlus phone that broke out of the niche market --and that phone is only a little over a year old so demand for new batteries probably isn't there yet. I would expect better choices becoming available for both phones since the OnePlus phones are becoming more popular. It seems possible this phone could last 5 years. I previously had Google phones and getting much more than 2 years out of those was like winning the lottery.
The phone may last, the battery not.
Batteries lose some of their capacity after a certain number of charge cycles, regardless what you do.
After a year or so, your battery will have about 80% of its capacity left. That's about 2400mAh after one year. By the second year you should be thinking about replacing it.
I think batteries in the past few years have gotten better. My one friend used his 2010 HTC desire for over 3 years before the original battery started to get weak (had like 70 percent of its original charge). His next phone I gave him was an HTC one s. The battery was still fine after 4 years when the amoled screen started to fail. Now he's using the 2013 moto x and the battery is still lasting 2 days like when I have it to him a couple years ago.
My galaxy s6 battery was still fine when I traded it in a few weeks ago. I've actually had quite a few older phones that didn't have any battery issues. The only ones I can remember having to replace the battery was a galaxy s3 I bought used and an HTC desire HD from 2011.
That said I'm sure we'll be able to get a battery because I do plan to keep this phone long enough to need a battery replacement. I'm guessing 4 years I will have to replace it.
With battery replacement costing $100+ you are probably better off buying a prior year midrange model than hauling around a clunker with severely outdated software for 5 years. For example, nowadays it is possible to purchase a Moto G5+ for around $220 NIB (there was a recent newegg deal).
Thank you so much for all the input guys!!!
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With battery replacement costing $100+ you are probably better off buying a prior year midrange model than hauling around a clunker with severely outdated software for 5 years. For example, nowadays it is possible to purchase a Moto G5+ for around $220 NIB (there was a recent newegg deal).
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My 5 years old galaxy s4 runs 7.1. Oneplus 5's developper community is even better so it'll stay up to date for a long time.
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My 5 years old galaxy s4 runs 7.1. Oneplus 5's developper community is even better so it'll stay up to date for a long time.
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5 yr old screen tech
5 yr old battery consumption and processor speed
5 yr old other tech (fingerprint readers, camera, GPS, magnetometer, light sensor)
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nearly lastest for all of the above for $100 more. Note that unlike your S4 the OP5 is a sealed battery so unless you have the right tools you cannot change the battery yourself.
Yo money yo choices
I can change the battery myself. I've had a few phones apart before. Its not that difficult. The cost of a battery will probably be like $20. The tech has gotten to the point where it's not improving nearly as fast. People will be using 5 year old phones 5 years from now. They cost double what they did 5 years ago for a flagship.
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5 yr old screen tech
5 yr old battery consumption and processor speed
5 yr old other tech (fingerprint readers, camera, GPS, magnetometer, light sensor)
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nearly lastest for all of the above for $100 more. Note that unlike your S4 the OP5 is a sealed battery so unless you have the right tools you cannot change the battery yourself.
Yo money yo choices
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I don't know, I think the oneplus 5 is an amazing future proof devices, in 5 years galaxies will probably not have 8gigs of ram,
I don't play games so the 835 should be more than enough, fingerprint reader will still be one of the fastest (it's already kinda instantaneous) and 1080p works just fine for me
The reason I'm not going for a budget phone anymore is that've had bad experiences with budget devices in the past:
- The nexus 7 was unusable after only 2 years, freaking slow.
- The moto g2 is the slowest device I've ever used, I think it has some memory problems, it's slow on any custom rom I've flashed on it.
In addition to that budget devices just give a worse experience overall
Don't worry for the battery, repairing electronics is my hobby
Pwnycorn said:
The phone may last, the battery not.
Batteries lose some of their capacity after a certain number of charge cycles, regardless what you do.
After a year or so, your battery will have about 80% of its capacity left. That's about 2400mAh after one year. By the second year you should be thinking about replacing it.
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That is an untrue statement. There is no set amount of time to determine lots of capacity. Look up BatteryUniversity.com and look for lithium battery page on charge cycles.
In short, never let your battery deplete completely. The depth of discharge (DoD) directly impacts loss of battery capacity. Your battery charge cycles is when your charge from more then 80% or less to full 100%. So for example... If you wait to charge your phone when it's under 25%, you will get roughly 250-350 charge cycles before significant lots of capacity. The rest goes like this... Charge at 25-50%, you'll get roughly 350-500 cycles and 50-75% 500-700 cycles and from 75%+ upwards of 1000 charge cycles.
My Nexus 6P was 18 months old and still had a capacity of 3100mah of 3400 (88%). So if you know what you're doing and take care of your battery, it can last much longer then expected expected.
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That is an untrue statement. There is no set amount of time to determine lots of capacity. Look up BatteryUniversity.com and look for lithium battery page on charge cycles.
In short, never let your battery deplete completely. The depth of discharge (DoD) directly impacts loss of battery capacity. Your battery charge cycles is when your charge from more then 80% or less to full 100%. So for example... If you wait to charge your phone when it's under 25%, you will get roughly 250-350 charge cycles before significant lots of capacity. The rest goes like this... Charge at 25-50%, you'll get roughly 350-500 cycles and 50-75% 500-700 cycles and from 75%+ upwards of 1000 charge cycles.
My Nexus 6P was 18 months old and still had a capacity of 3100mah of 3400 (88%). So if you know what you're doing and take care of your battery, it can last much longer then expected expected.
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How is my statement untrue? You just confirmed what I said.
No matter what you do, the battery will lose capacity. You can lower the amount of the capacity loss, but you can't prevent it fully.
And most people don't charge their phones until around the 30% range. According to you, that's about 250-350 charge cycles. And if you charge once a day, that's roughly a year.
So my estimate of the battery having roughly 20% less capacity after approximately a year was correct.
Not to mention the other factors that aid in the capacity loss (overcharging and heat).
Trust me, the average user doesn't take care of their batteries. I observed this at my friends and acquaintances. They always use their phones until it gets very low and then charge it.
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How is my statement untrue? You just confirmed what I said.
No matter what you do, the battery will lose capacity. You can lower the amount of the capacity loss, but you can't prevent it fully.
And most people don't charge their phones until around the 30% range. According to you, that's about 250-350 charge cycles. And if you charge once a day, that's roughly a year.
So my estimate of the battery having roughly 20% less capacity after approximately a year was correct.
Not to mention the other factors that aid in the capacity loss (overcharging and heat).
Trust me, the average user doesn't take care of their batteries. I observed this at my friends and acquaintances. They always use their phones until it gets very low and then charge it.
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I'm not staying they don't lose capacity, but why I said untrue is that you said batteries have a certain amount of charge cycles, and that will vary if you take care of your battery, and that after 1 year you will only have 80% of the capacity, and again, untrue. I was at 18 months and still at 88%.
I'm just saying is that is not set in stone and if people educate themselves on hour to take care of a battery it will last longer.
I'm also aware of this and charge my battery before it gets below 35 sometimes before 50. This is probably why so many phones I've had lasted well over 3 years on the original batteries.