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Samsung Exynos 5250 is a BEAST!!!

Benchmarks: new Exynos 5 Dual beats Apple’s A6 chip
http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/

yoniinfante said:
Benchmarks: new Exynos 5 Dual beats Apple’s A6 chip
http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/
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Wait til one of these goes in the GS4. However; Apple will have the A7 by then so..

CrApple is nothing without Sammy bro!!!

My Note II beats those A6 benchmark scores too, so it's not all that shocking really apart from the dual core bit!

How does it compare to the note 2?
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those apple processors dont have a lot of performance anyway, but they work very good with the operating system, thats the reason they're quite good in benchmarks.

Apocaliptica said:
those apple processors dont have a lot of performance anyway, but they work very good with the operating system, thats the reason they're quite good in benchmarks.
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iOS is very well optimized for their CPU/SoCs because well, there's 1 new one a year as opposed to Android which has to work with Exynos, Snapdragon, Sony's chips, Intel's and TI's OMAP...
Not to mention, Apple pretty much has the crown when it comes to GPU performance... which in my mind is the more important thing... Quad core is all good and stuff, but like your PC, the bottleneck is usually your GPU.

I wonder how it will do against the A6X in the fourth gen iPad?
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iOS is very well optimized for their CPU/SoCs because well, there's 1 new one a year as opposed to Android which has to work with Exynos, Snapdragon, Sony's chips, Intel's and TI's OMAP...
Not to mention, Apple pretty much has the crown when it comes to GPU performance... which in my mind is the more important thing... Quad core is all good and stuff, but like your PC, the bottleneck is usually your GPU.
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Yeah I don't know why any Android OEM's dont use the same PowerVR chips Apple does? Apple has exclusivity maybe?

Exynos 5450 anyone for Note 3?
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yeah i hope we get Quad 5450 A15 @ 2Ghz next year with 3 or 4GB ram sweet

My Note 2 is faster than my notebook lol

Livebyte said:
Exynos 5450 anyone for Note 3?
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More like 5250 of S4 plus 200mhz

mr mystery said:
Wait til one of these goes in the GS4. However; Apple will have the A7 by then so..
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Nah, not A7 till at least a year from now.

cool
COOL !!!!!
GS4 may be 1.5 or 2GB RAM

[SAMSUNG] To Unveil [8-CORE] ARM Chip

Eight cores, in a mobile processor? Balderdash! But according to EETimes, that's just what Samsung's planning on unveiling in February at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference (that sounds so exciting).
Now before you get too excited, this isn't - technically speaking - an eight-core processor. It's a dual quad-core, which is to say, a two-processor chip. The design is based on a reference architecture thought up by ARM themselves, dubbed "big.little," and is designed to combine the light-load battery life of a high-efficiency quad-core 28nm ARM A7 chip with a super-hi-po A15 processor for heavy lifting. The exact specifications, for our nerdier readers, are: 1 quad-core ARM A7 chip clocked at 1.2GHz for everyday tasks, and 1 quad-core ARM A15 chip clocked at 1.8GHz w/ 2MB L2 cache for processor-intensive tasks like video games.
ARM itself has said the "big.little" project is delivering benefits beyond those expected when the architecture was initially announced, and Samsung's chip should be the first on the market based on the concept. So yes, this will be a new Exynos of some sort.
Should you expect this chip in the Galaxy S IV (or whatever Samsung's going to call it - because that's far from a given)? It's possible, but not necessarily likely. The gap between chip announcement and tape-out (mass-production readiness) can be lengthy. With the first batch of Exynos 5 Dual devices just now hitting the market in the form of the new Samsung Chromebook and Nexus 10, this eight-core beast may not be ready in time for the next "next big thing." Samsung could very well specifically be targeting this chip for Chromebooks and Windows RT / Android tablets before taking a dive into smaller form factors, too.
Either way, it's exciting business - I can't say I ever tire of technology getting faster.
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to be honest lately i have started to lose interest in Samsung due to the whole exynos issue and lack of support for developers but if this is to be true then i feel comfortable in making my next device a Samsung (only with this chip ovcourse) lets hope we see this chip come to more devices if it is infact released we will have to wait and see what samsung brings us in 2013 to decide if our loyalty to samsung is acctually worth it
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What relavance to the S3 does this have??? Nothing. Keep it in the General section not the S3 General section...
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Not excited. Most apps today are optimized for single and dual cores, rarely on quad. And now octal??

Well if you read its not a true 8 core processor. It is two CPU's both quad core. One being an A15 @1.8GHz and the other an A7 @1.2GHz
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Yes and Intel working on a 48 core chip.
Also it doesn't matter if the application you are running isn't designed for multi cores, most of the time this isn't even possible. People are still forgetting that one application isn't EVERYTHING that runs on a CPU, there are a lot of processes that run at the same time and thus benefit from multi core architecture.
Someone please move this useless thread.
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b-eock said:
Well if you read its not a true 8 core processor. It is two CPU's both quad core. One being an A15 @1.8GHz and the other an A7 @1.2GHz
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It's still a octa-core if you want to be anal about the definition, one of the hacks in kernels with this device SoC will be to run all cores in asymmetric multiprocessor modes.
But anyway the timing coincides with the 5450 rumors we've been hearing. Either they have two discrete quad A15 SoCs or they're both the same thing.

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It's still a octa-core if you want to be anal about the definition, one of the hacks in kernels with this device SoC will be to run all cores in asymmetric multiprocessor modes.
But anyway the timing coincides with the 5450 rumors we've been hearing. Either they have two discrete quad A15 SoCs or they're both the same thing.
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Wow that sounds super exciting. Great piece of info. Now its time for google to really optimize android for multi core processors
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Yes and Intel working on a 48 core chip.
Also it doesn't matter if the application you are running isn't designed for multi cores, most of the time this isn't even possible. People are still forgetting that one application isn't EVERYTHING that runs on a CPU, there are a lot of processes that run at the same time and thus benefit from multi core architecture.
Someone please move this useless thread.
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The 48 core chip intel now intel has started as a multi core gpu , they started designing it as larabee gpu which later turned into the product which is released right now .sadly its not destined for desktop but for high performance computing.
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[Q] S4 octa core or quad core?

Which one do i get!?!?!?! I cant decide... help me!
I don't think i will get 4G anytime soon (too expensive on my network) so i really don't know which version to get? which on has better battery life etc..
pls help, detailed answers will be really helpful. I need to make a decision before Friday.

I suggest, go for S4 I9500 Octa-Core. Check my detailed previous reply to a similar question.
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Octa= heads, quad=tails..good luck Mine was tails and I'm very happy with it. Did you do any research yet? Enough on the web about it.

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I suggest, go for S4 I9500 Octa-Core. Check my detailed previous reply to a similar question.
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When i click to see your previous posts i get this 'Search is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.'
Can you give me the link?
Thanks

I would recommend the quad core. I have the octa cor myself but the quad core is said to have better battery life and it has LOTS of custom roms

Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
Snapdragon Galaxy S4

slig said:
Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
Snapdragon Galaxy S4
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I dont think it failed entirely. If the exynos 1.6GHz quad can beat the 1.9GHz quad Krait in terms of performance than that's a feat in itself.

Get the one which is officially sold in your country.

Gogeta_138 said:
pls help, detailed answers will be really helpful. I need to make a decision before Friday.
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Well..it's Friday did you make a decision?

Boes40 said:
Well..it's Friday did you make a decision?
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Yepp getting the quad core one.. i9505
Thanks for all the help guys

You made the best decision enjoy!

I have the octa core and i love it! Although I would add that i do not have the quad core to compare with. Both are great.
In the end it all boils down to LTE or not to LTE. I chose not to. For me, anything above 3Mbps is quite handy. And i get 6Mbps+ approx on my AT&T prepaid HSPA+.

slig said:
Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
Snapdragon Galaxy S4
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Actually all the 8cores could together but just not ATM , only after Hmp will be implemented.
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octa 11 hours talk time, quad 18 hours talk time, according to a review.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
octa 11 hours talk time, quad 18 hours talk time, according to a review.
John.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p6.php
"Performance-wise, the octa-core Exynos has a slight advantage, but that's not because of the higher number of cores. You have got to remember that only a single set of four cores is active at a any single time - either the power-sipping Cortex A7's or the number-crunching Cortex A15's.
It is evident from our tests however, that the Exynos version of the Galaxy S4 is not much more powerful than the Snapdragon 600. Furthermore, the battery life performance of the Exynos-touting variant is consistently worse than the one by the Snapdragon 600 version."
Which is why i picked i9505. Almost no difference in speed but big difference in battery. My i9505 lasts almost 2 days sometimes.

Goo Phone S4 MAX Important Questions

Hello, I am wanting to purchase this cool phone which features a octa core processor and has 13 MP camera rear and 5mp front facing camera.
It has also got a big touch screen and comes with Android 4.2 installed.
I have some questions regarding this phone before I buy it.
Questions:
- What is the GPU of the phone and how many CORES does it use?
- What is the clock speed of the gpu or each cores and what model is the video chip made from?
- How much video memory does the phone use in it's chip?
- On goo phone's website the price is $240.00 but im not sure if that is the same price in Australia. Is that phone $240 in AUD or is it a USA site instead or is it listed as cheap because it is in china and for Australian people they must use a currency changer?
I want to know what the DPI of the screen is and also I want to know if the phone is water and dust resistant or not.
I REALLY NEED THIS PHONE because it is a very cheap 8 CPU powered phone but I am unsure if $240 AUD is going to be the price for this phone. Has any one bought a model just like this one for the same price but less cpu's say a quad core model but a 8 core model would cost around $400???
Im not sure and that's why I ask here.
HOw about the android operating system? I Know it is 4.2 but is it kitkat or is it upgradable to kitkat?
Would I be able to execute playstation mobile on it? - you don't hve to answere this question but if you know any thing more please tell me

If you're in aus, I'd look at the much nicer Moto G, octa core isn't everything and you're likely to get better performance from the quad core in the G than any Chinese octa core phone.
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Why is 8 core not better then a quad core cortex A7 cpu?
Do you know the video chip of the goophone s4 max? I have purchased it but im not sure what the price will come on my credit card as in AUD that's were worries me that I may be charged more then the amount said on the site's webpage.
If you know more about the goophone s4 max and what I have asked can you please put it here, I DO NOT want any other phone except for the 8 core one because that is definitely faster RIGHT since it has a faster 2.0GHz clock speed and 8 cores means it is faster

What is the fastest processor I can find in one of these head units?

I've been looking all over ali express find tons of conflicting info but I think I have deduced that the rk3811 quad core a9 is the fastest processor you can find in these units ( please correct me if i'm wrong). I want to upgrade the headunit in my benz cls500 and do a full overhaul with a new amp to get rid of the crappy fiber optics amp. The only reason I havn't pulled the trigger is because I was hoping to get a 9 inch screen that fits flush in the center console, something like this....... http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-8-...ation-Central-Multimedia-for/32603628957.html .... and although it seems to have been released relatively recently it appears to have older technology in it. Do they make this style with the new processor and the 4.4.4 os.

well, there's a 10.1 inch unit
danknasty said:
I've been looking all over ali express find tons of conflicting info but I think I have deduced that the rk3811 quad core a9 is the fastest processor you can find in these units ( please correct me if i'm wrong). I want to upgrade the headunit in my benz cls500 and do a full overhaul with a new amp to get rid of the crappy fiber optics amp. The only reason I havn't pulled the trigger is because I was hoping to get a 9 inch screen that fits flush in the center console, something like this....... http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-8-...ation-Central-Multimedia-for/32603628957.html .... and although it seems to have been released relatively recently it appears to have older technology in it. Do they make this style with the new processor and the 4.4.4 os.
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I believe the Rockchip PX3 Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz is the fastest processor in these Android units now. Maybe the manufacturer will release the eight-core version later, but who knows how long will it take. 9 inch screen is not the limitation, I find a 10.1 inch Android unit... only watched the review video, don't know how will it work after installation. you can have a look.

u.r.rible said:
I believe the Rockchip PX3 Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz is the fastest processor in these Android units now. Maybe the manufacturer will release the eight-core version later, but who knows how long will it take. 9 inch screen is not the limitation, I find a 10.1 inch Android unit... only watched the review video, don't know how will it work after installation. you can have a look.
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Yea I was actually interested in the 9 because I think that is the largest that fits into that very specifically shaped Mercedes cluster. I was hoping to keep it pretty factory looking. Where can you find these units with that processor you speak of? I've been basically only looking at Ali express not really sure of another reputable place that has these things.
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danknasty said:
Yea I was actually interested in the 9 because I think that is the largest that fits into that very specifically shaped Mercedes cluster. I was hoping to keep it pretty factory looking. Where can you find these units with that processor you speak of? I've been basically only looking at Ali express not really sure of another reputable place that has these things.
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Well, I just googled the "quad core Android unit review" and it showed this in-depth review. After reading that review, I start to pay attention to that AutoPumpkin brand. They have released a few quad core Android units and also uploaded the review videos on YouTube to help us know better about their products. Of course, you can searched other brands by yourself via the net, such as Eonon, Joying etc. Since I don't know much of these brand, you can figure out by yourself. Besides, you can search the Android unit on Amazon or eBay. Don't just focus on Ali express.

u.r.rible said:
Well, I just googled the "quad core Android unit review" and it showed this in-depth review. After reading that review, I start to pay attention to that AutoPumpkin brand. They have released a few quad core Android units and also uploaded the review videos on YouTube to help us know better about their products. Of course, you can searched other brands by yourself via the net, such as Eonon, Joying etc. Since I don't know much of these brand, you can figure out by yourself. Besides, you can search the Android unit on Amazon or eBay. Don't just focus on Ali express.
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Yea I looked at pumpkin and many brands my main issue is that the ones that fit my cars stock head unit all seem to be old hardware the only company offering the new hardware for my unit are these no name brands and I believe Joying otherwise i'm stuck with the dual core or the quad a7 processors. I started looking at ebay first but thought that might be a bit more sketch than ali express but i'll give it another look.

u.r.rible said:
I believe the Rockchip PX3 Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz is the fastest processor in these Android units now. Maybe the manufacturer will release the eight-core version later, but who knows how long will it take. 9 inch screen is not the limitation, I find a 10.1 inch Android unit... only watched the review video, don't know how will it work after installation. you can have a look.
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I believe I found a company that makes the px3 cortex a9 quad core you speak of it is called xtrons... but they are very sketchy about their info at first they list all cars that have fiber optic systems in their compatibility list then I ask them if this will work with a vehicle that has fiber optics and they tell me no. Then they send me a message sayign that this is the "5m fiber optic bypass cable" I will need. this looks like no fiber optic bypass cable I have ever seen can anyone verify that this company is not just blowing smoke. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Stereo-...es-Benz-/301814784274?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

I'm looking to do an upgrade from an RK3066 to an RK3188 and I'm curious if the 'PX3' and the 'RK3188' som/boards are the same - or at least interchangeable?
In my research I see that an RK3066 can (usually) be swapped with an RK3188, but the seller I'm working with has a som that looks just like an RK3188 som pictured in threads but the CPU is stamped 'PX3'.
Any confirmation this will work just like a 3188?
Thanks.

Us-Marshal said:
I'm looking to do an upgrade from an RK3066 to an RK3188 and I'm curious if the 'PX3' and the 'RK3188' som/boards are the same - or at least interchangeable?
In my research I see that an RK3066 can (usually) be swapped with an RK3188, but the seller I'm working with has a som that looks just like an RK3188 som pictured in threads but the CPU is stamped 'PX3'.
Any confirmation this will work just like a 3188?
Thanks.
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I'm curious how you were able to get such level of detail from a seller are you on Ali express? I haven't managed to get more than what is on the ad and often is incorrect info. I wasn't aware that they could swap these boards if so many the r16 quad core a9 is a possibility?
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I agree, usually on AE it's very difficult to get good communication and detailed responses, but occasionally I've found sellers who will try to help.
I have no idea of the other A9 boards would work because the form factor is critical. These units have a pretty unique slot for the som, so you have to find one made for it - it's not generic.

danknasty said:
I'm curious how you were able to get such level of detail from a seller are you on Ali express? I haven't managed to get more than what is on the ad and often is incorrect info. I wasn't aware that they could swap these boards if so many the r16 quad core a9 is a possibility?
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The r16 is a7, not a9.
http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/clq/R_series/2015/0514/R16.html

Carjoying makes a 10" With an RK3188
I believe that the RK3188 is the fastest processor in any of these headunits, that i have seen. Joying has a 10" with the 3188 but it is the same resolution as the smaller units. Their website has pictures. They have an 8" for some specific cars. I have one in a CRV and it is excellent. Fits and looks better than the factory radio.

cardio77 said:
I believe that the RK3188 is the fastest processor in any of these headunits, that i have seen. Joying has a 10" with the 3188 but it is the same resolution as the smaller units. Their website has pictures. They have an 8" for some specific cars. I have one in a CRV and it is excellent. Fits and looks better than the factory radio.
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Do they make any of these big screens for a Mercedes? I see some but they are all running an r16. And claim that it's quad a9 but it's most likely quad a7
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I have had difficulties to find out where to buy it.
Is this the fastest/better model? Anyone knows a better place to buy it? At least a 2gb memory version would be great
https://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM/RK3188/RK3188-SOM/
Or should be the nand model?
https://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM/RK3188/RK3188-SOM-4GB/
Thx