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Since the launch of SGS3 is around the corner and the next note will probably come within next few months, I thought of starting this thread to know how many users prefer having Quad Exynos 4 ( similar to SGS3 which is based on A9 arcitecture with Mali 400 GPU built using 32nm manufacturing process) or dual Exynos 5 (A15 architecture with Mali T604 GPU which is based on probably 28nm manufacturing process)in our next Note...
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You should put a POLL, it would get more people interested. But for me, I'd rather get the A15 with the Mali 604T since A15 is supposedly to be 40% faster than A9 and the Mali 604T will blow the Mali 400 away.
Definitely the dual A15 with Mali 604. No doubt.
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I dont see any benifit by haveing a quad core cpu. Most apps dont even use the duel core.
Cant fault my note at all. So just the new duel will do with less battery drain
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Quad! I don't care if I don't use it, and I don't care if I don't need it.
It just feels good to have that much power in the palm of your hand.
I'll benefit from that much power since I play games and I look forward to more capable emulators in the future.
I don't give a CRAP about the amount of cores!
I want the most speed that's possible, if that would be with dthe dual i take that, if it's with de quad, then thats my way to go...
Can't vote in the poll because i want speed, and since it's not sure wich one is faster i can't vote!
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I think the Exynos 5 will be released @ the end of this year, and the Exynos 4 tomorow
If that's correct i go with the Exynos 4, i hate waiting
what the note lacks is a decent GPU. the current GPU can't efficiently handle the 1280x800 pixels. however what i want more than anything is 1. non-pentile screen that is FLAWLESS and 2. a bigger battery still ~3000 mAh like the RAZR max. I would gladly sacrifice a few mm for a larger battery. I find it stupid how HTC decided to go with a slim and NON-REMOVABLE battery and storage to save a few mm. Seriously? This is why HTC is falling in a deep pit.
Exynos 5 dual, it has more power and is more efficient
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EASILY the A15 with the T-604! Come to papa!
The fastest clock speed and the best GPU is all that matters. 2.2 ghz 2 core with a fab GPU will blow away a 10 core 1.0 ghz with a bad gpu everyday every way.
How about the beast Quad Core A15 Exynos 5450 with Mali T-658? Ok, ok, I know technically it hasn't been built yet and will probably be for tablets, but wouldn't mind seeing it in the Note since it is a tab/phone hybrid.
But as for the current SoC's available now, I would take the A15 dual Exynos 5250 with Mali T-604.
More likely, I think Samsung's road map would be to release the flagship Galaxy S lines (in this case the GS 3) with the latest SoC's, then the next Note (Note 2 in this case) would get a slight spec bump based on the Galaxy S 3 with a faster clocked CPU/GPU combo of the Galaxy S 3 line 6 months later, then the GS4 would get next Gen SoCs with the Note 3 getting a spec bump of the GS 4 SoCs, etc.....
I am sorry.. but this amounts to techie circle jerking..
Quad core processors came out for the PC when not a single application could even use two cores, much less four.. Even today, several years later, for the very very vast majority of applications, it is hard to get a PC to run more that one and a bit processors.. My i7 snoozes, and even cranking up real time low latency audio(a stressful activity)it runs 2 processors at 30% and one at 5%
Therefore I frankly do not care if they put a hamster and a wheel inside the device...as long as the results in operation of the device meets my needs.
So, given my customer needs are for smoother, faster and more reliable operation with better battery life and an enhanced user experience, Samsung can put whatever they want into the device...
In saying that, decisions by the majority of folks are driven by what they think the specifications mean, rather than the impact or result of those specifications in real life usage, so while i am sure its not necessary, a next Note will for sure have a quad core.
With a single core my galaxy s with ics is snappier than my note. Finally its the software I guess.
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I am sorry.. but this amounts to techie circle jerking..
Quad core processors came out for the PC when not a single application could even use two cores, much less four.. Even today, several years later, for the very very vast majority of applications, it is hard to get a PC to run more that one and a bit processors.. My i7 snoozes, and even cranking up real time low latency audio(a stressful activity)it runs 2 processors at 30% and one at 5%
Therefore I frankly do not care if they put a hamster and a wheel inside the device...as long as the results in operation of the device meets my needs.
So, given my customer needs are for smoother, faster and more reliable operation with better battery life and an enhanced user experience, Samsung can put whatever they want into the device...
In saying that, decisions by the majority of folks are driven by what they think the specifications mean, rather than the impact or result of those specifications in real life usage, so while i am sure its not necessary, a next Note will for sure have a quad core.
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I agree. Android multitasking would need to be vastly different than what it is today, and on top of this the RAM specs need a major bump to even begin to show advantages in multi-core processing.
Also like you said, it has not mattered for deskptops and laptops what the real-world benefits are, just what the consumer feels about the value in their purchase. Nowadays it seems people are more concerned with the number of cores as opposed to the clock speed.
I do like the approach that Ti has taken with the OMAP in dedicating low-power cores to low-power functions, and feel that it really has potential in mobile devices, but they seem to be a step behind when it comes to the bigger tasks of mobile processing. Intel being on the cusp of Haswell has me excited to see what they can do in this territory.
Dual Exynos 5 for me at the moment.
It'll be interesting to see how they market this dual core a15 processor because joe public, will always think more cores is better. I do feel though that the note 2 might not have the same internals as the s3, like our notes had the same as the s2. For the note they seemed to put in all the best tech they had on offer at the tine, so if the a15 is ready to go by November time then I think they'll defo use it unless something better is available.
Dual core with speed.
Quad cores mean squat if they slow the primary usage down.
I'd rather get a dual than a quad even if its on the same generation and process so long as it is clocked higher. Give me a smaller process, newer gen chip and better gpu? There is no choice.
Id go for the i7 3960x and gtx 690 if they can squeeze that in the next note but I think I wont get a choice and will just end up with whatever Samsung puts into the note 2.
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I am sorry.. but this amounts to techie circle jerking..
Quad core processors came out for the PC when not a single application could even use two cores, much less four.. Even today, several years later, for the very very vast majority of applications, it is hard to get a PC to run more that one and a bit processors.. My i7 snoozes, and even cranking up real time low latency audio(a stressful activity)it runs 2 processors at 30% and one at 5%
Therefore I frankly do not care if they put a hamster and a wheel inside the device...as long as the results in operation of the device meets my needs.
So, given my customer needs are for smoother, faster and more reliable operation with better battery life and an enhanced user experience, Samsung can put whatever they want into the device...
In saying that, decisions by the majority of folks are driven by what they think the specifications mean, rather than the impact or result of those specifications in real life usage, so while i am sure its not necessary, a next Note will for sure have a quad core.
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I agree with you....the main reason I created this thread, because I wanted to know how many members actually know the effect of system architecture and the manufacturing process will affect the day to day performance of the device, battery consumption etc.,it was never about the software but I know it everything comes to the OS how deeply it is integrated with the hardware and how effectively it co-ordinates with them...this is why Apple's devices are snappier than the android...the problem here is Samsung is more concerned about bringing more devices out than focusing on the system's deep integration...so it only comes to the fact that the thread is only about the hardware... but the discussion about the embedded systems is also welcomed....
adelmundo said:
How about the beast Quad Core A15 Exynos 5450 with Mali T-658? Ok, ok, I know technically it hasn't been built yet and will probably be for tablets, but wouldn't mind seeing it in the Note since it is a tab/phone hybrid.
But as for the current SoC's available now, I would take the A15 dual Exynos 5250 with Mali T-604.
More likely, I think Samsung's road map would be to release the flagship Galaxy S lines (in this case the GS 3) with the latest SoC's, then the next Note (Note 2 in this case) would get a slight spec bump based on the Galaxy S 3 with a faster clocked CPU/GPU combo of the Galaxy S 3 line 6 months later, then the GS4 would get next Gen SoCs with the Note 3 getting a spec bump of the GS 4 SoCs, etc.....
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I heard that Note 10.1 tablet is being delayed because Samsung wanted the device with quad than dual...so there is a little chance that the next Hybrid Note will come with some other spec....
so confused...VOTE!
They finally released 2GB version! My prayers are heard!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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both of them are on par on performance with one winning the others in few test, you will absolutely note no difference in performance.
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2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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What makes you say that S4 uses more memory? Both of them don't have dedicated graphics memory like the Tegra3 so they both need to use system ram. The rest is upto the OS, the SoC has nothing to do with it.
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
S4/Krait : (+) newer architecture, not exactly A15, but comparable. Good battery life. If you use LTE, I think it has integrated LTE radios.
Quad-Exynos: (+) Powerful GPU, I would believe that Samsung can optimize their software much better for Exynos compared to S4. Decent battery life. I read that they modified the architecture with options like 128-bit internal bus which is not available in other A9's.
2GB RAM to probably offset the extra memory used by S4 as we saw in the case AT&T HOX multitasking issue.
Decision is yours.
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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Tegra 3 sucks compared to S4 but exynos is way better than Tegra 3. I would say exynos is the best currently. I'm not sure if there will be too much advantage to gain with 2gb ram. The one advantage the s4 will have over exynos is battery life.
How many of the people who are saying that s4 plus 2gb is not good actually have an option to buy it? Only guys in US who have option to go with either of the two will give you right answer.
Im going with exynos quadcore... Do i think s4 plus 2gb plus lte is better in terms of hardware? definitely yes. Then why am i getting exynos? I want 10bucks unlimited data which will be available only with the unbranded phone. And international phone will have better developer support.
Im positive that s4 version will be super fluid if you choose to go for it though. I think i have made my decision that ill will get international version for my own reasons.
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I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
Definitely getting the S4 version as soon as it hits AT&T. I hope it has the Wolfson DAC... but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2GB RAM is a must today. If you do not want to seeks kernels with swap option next months you need this RAM.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2gb ram means faster more fluid multitasking due to Android not having to kill/reload so many apps when you run multiple things. Won't see crap like the launcher having to reload because you opened a few apps for a while. It leads to better user experience.
And how is Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412 performance not similar? From benchmarks I've seen they're both extremely comparable: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't live in Sweden, so our Exynos variant doesn't have DC-HSPA......yet another reason not to waste money on that variant.
They're both good combinations and offer interesting points for technical comparison. My bet is that real world use on both is very fluid. Both are better than Tegra 3 anyways.
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Quad with 2Gb..?
Thread to thread in super Pi the S4 is just 18% faster, so it will shine a bit in a dual core scenario but will be crushed by the Exynos otherwise (4 threads).
Then the GPU of the Exynos is a lot better (S4 GPU is in the range of the SGS2) and battery drain seem comparable between the 2.
Given an option I will go for S4 (Krait) + 2GB but sadly my part of the geographical location I will get only the Quad core one
Wish they went with adreno 320 and s4 quad like thar stupid looking leaked lg phone.
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If you have LTE in your area get the 2.gb if not get the quad. Hspa + isn't exactly slow, just not comparable to LTE
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I think the decision would make it way more easy for me if there was at least a launch date in US and for AT&T specifically. But it could be fall yet before it actually makes it debut here and also depends on which carrier launches first etc.. etc...
I have the International ordered and still may cancel it if this low stock fiasco doesn't end soon... and wait to see how the US launches unfold. I'm also interested to see real life comparisons of performance between these 2 variants..
Verizon is one of the five carriers to start offering the Samsung Galaxy S III this month and leaked pictures show that the device will virtually be an untouched version of its international GSM sibling.Android Central got their hands on some photos of the Galaxy S III for the Big Red, which, excluding the 4G Verizon logo on the back, is the same as the GSM model of the device. The only difference is it runs on a dual-core 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 chipset with 2GB of RAM.
Samsung have decided not to alter the Galaxy S III as much as they did with the Galaxy S II lineup last year and launch the device with the same outfit as everywhere else. This seems to be the case with the US-bound T-Mobile version and the one sold by AT&T, as well.
Speaking of launch, it's yet unclear when Verizon is going to put the Galaxy S III on the shelves, but it will surely be sometime this month.
Dual core with 2gigs of ram? Isnt the S3 quad core with 1gig? Hmmm
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QBANBOY407 said:
Dual core with 2gigs of ram? Isnt the S3 quad core with 1gig? Hmmm
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2GB of RAM is nice, but I'd rather have a quad-core Exynos since I'm a gamer and that's a big selling point of the Galaxy line.
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2GB of RAM is nice, but I'd rather have a quad-core Exynos since I'm a gamer and that's a big selling point of the Galaxy line.
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Me too!
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Snapdragon....so does that mean no Wolfson DAC for Verizon's phone?
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Snapdragon....so does that mean no Wolfson DAC for Verizon's phone?
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Sent u a pm can u please reply ??
June 6th they are starting to take pre-orders is what I just saw.
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As the release of the Samsung Galaxy SIII looms, I am wondering what events will take place. Do you think big red will officially roll out the the new data plans before launch? I doubt it.
When the S3 is released this month presumably before the new data plans roll out, will I be able to keep my grandfathered unlimited plan?
ready to leave Apple for android, but is the GS3 good enough?
hey guys not sure if i should get this phone... im sad it will not have the overclocked Mali400 400mhz GPU.... but i know the S4 CPU with the andreno 225 is a beast, i held off the GN on big red cause of the old powervr540 GPU WTF but i know ICS is much better of using the GPU instead of 3.2 and below mostly using the CPU for graphics processing... im a big gamer , thats why i use the iphone4s i love the powervr543mp2 its badass... so... what should i get? i kinda wanna wait for the LG eclipse i hear it comes with the adreno 320, that alone makes me giddy or does any one know of any phones coming out with the exynos 5250? i hear that Mali-t604 GPU can walk all over the PowerVR544mp4 in the ipad3 so anyone please help... should i wait for phones with the next Gen GPUS ,adreno 320 and Mali-t604? or will my gaming needs be met with the GS3 with the S4 CPU running the adreno 225 GPU? im ready to get rid of my Iphone4s... but i still want the same graphics performance of the powerVR543mp2 in my iphone 4S , i love the idea of android and i cant wait to leave the dark side of apple!!!! FTW Andriod!!!
p.s i know im a noob here so sorry for the long post
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As the release of the Samsung Galaxy SIII looms, I am wondering what events will take place. Do you think big red will officially roll out the the new data plans before launch? I doubt it.
When the S3 is released this month presumably before the new data plans roll out, will I be able to keep my grandfathered unlimited plan?
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If you go ahead and pre-order you will be able to keep your Unlimited. Tiered plans are supposed to begin July 1st, so anytime before then should be fine.
vader540is said:
hey guys not sure if i should get this phone... im sad it will not have the overclocked Mali400 400mhz GPU.... but i know the S4 CPU with the andreno 225 is a beast, i held off the GN on big red cause of the old powervr540 GPU WTF but i know ICS is much better of using the GPU instead of 3.2 and below mostly using the CPU for graphics processing... im a big gamer , thats why i use the iphone4s i love the powervr543mp2 its badass... so... what should i get? i kinda wanna wait for the LG eclipse i hear it comes with the adreno 320, that alone makes me giddy or does any one know of any phones coming out with the exynos 5250? i hear that Mali-t604 GPU can walk all over the PowerVR544mp4 in the ipad3 so anyone please help... should i wait for phones with the next Gen GPUS ,adreno 320 and Mali-t604? or will my gaming needs be met with the GS3 with the S4 CPU running the adreno 225 GPU? im ready to get rid of my Iphone4s... but i still want the same graphics performance of the powerVR543mp2 in my iphone 4S , i love the idea of android and i cant wait to leave the dark side of apple!!!! FTW Andriod!!!
p.s i know im a noob here so sorry for the long post
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Developers never ever use the highest end hardware when designing their games because of exactly why you're worried. They'll always use the hardware that's the most friendly and easily-sourced in favor of something that is completely different like the Mali GPUs (which is more reserved for tablets anyways if theory comes to fact). Mali is still unproven whereas Adreno is easily sourced. I'll put money that developers will favor Adreno for some time until.
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Developers never ever use the highest end hardware when designing their games because of exactly why you're worried. They'll always use the hardware that's the most friendly and easily-sourced in favor of something that is completely different like the Mali GPUs (which is more reserved for tablets anyways if theory comes to fact). Mali is still unproven whereas Adreno is easily sourced. I'll put money that developers will favor Adreno for some time until.
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The exception to your statement is of course the Tegra platform, which has versions of games optimized specifically for it. But in general you're correct. The Mali is significantly more powerful than the S4, although in real-world usage the difference would be negligible.
Does the VZW version with the Snapdragon MSM8960 radio have LTE on the actual SOC. Or is the LTE radio on a separate chip like the Bionic and Galaxy Nexus? Basically is there any battery saving with this radio by having the LTE on the SOC itself instead of a stand alone chip set.
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Does the VZW version with the Snapdragon MSM8960 radio have LTE on the actual SOC. Or is the LTE radio on a separate chip like the Bionic and Galaxy Nexus? Basically is there any battery saving with this radio by having the LTE on the SOC itself instead of a stand alone chip set.
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Its actually integrated in to the block of the CPU diagram
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I found a Diagram
The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 (MSM8960) is composed of two Krait CPUs clocked between 1.2 and 1.5 Ghz, an Adreno 225 GPU and a modem subsystem with LTE, GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth and FM support. It will be manufactured using 28nm technology and provide much lower power consumption compared to previous generations.
Snapdragon S4 Block Diagram
Key features and improvements:
New CPU micro-architecture: The Krait CPU offer a 60% performance improvement compared to the scorpion CPU used in previous generations.
CPU performance Roadmap
SIMD/VFP performance: Multimedia instructions (SIMD) and floating point operations have also been improved, but no metrics have been provided.
Optimized memory subsystem: Krait includes dual-channel memory. Dual-channel memory is critical in
order for the processor to being able to handle the large bandwidth requirements in multicore systems.
25/40% power improvement: Thanks to an asynchronous multi-core processing, the MSM8960 consumes between 25 to 40% less power.
Reduced complexity: Qualcomm explains a companion core is not needed to reduce power savings as they use aSMP (asynchronous SMP) technology. This goes against the choice of Nvidia to have a companion core in NVidia 3.
50% increase in GPU performance: The Adreno 225 GPU delivers 50% greater graphics processing power over the previous generation Adreno GPU, Adreno 220, and six times the processing power of Adreno 200.
Adreno GPU Power Improvements
Fully integrated 3G/4G world/multimode LTE Modem: Supports all of the world:s leading 2G, 3G
and 4G LTE standards. It also includes integrated support for multiple satellite position networks (GPS and GLONASS) as well as short range radios via Bluetooth, WiFi, FM and NFC.
Programmable Hexagon DSPTM Architecture: According to the block diagram above. They all contribute to the improved performance of the mobile processor. Custom DSP applications can also be written by OEM and ISV.
Read more: http://www.cnx-software.com/2011/10/08/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-msm8960/
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Developers never ever use the highest end hardware when designing their games because of exactly why you're worried. They'll always use the hardware that's the most friendly and easily-sourced in favor of something that is completely different like the Mali GPUs (which is more reserved for tablets anyways if theory comes to fact). Mali is still unproven whereas Adreno is easily sourced. I'll put money that developers will favor Adreno for some time until.
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Very true but with the growth of mobile gaming today, developers must use next Gen GPUs for example the Malit628 will have native support for open CL, 3D hi Res, multi threading and 64 bit... Look at TV now there will be ultra definition which will make 1080p look like my original Nintendo game boy in the 90s... So smart phones will follow suit... Look at LGs new super phone the eclipse, 5 inch display 440 ppi ! And has an adreno 320 GPU apple knows how important a smooth graphic interface is... Apple has always used high power GPUs in their Ipad and iPhones, look at ICS Google finally use integrated hardware and graphical acceleration in the ICS operating system, u can tell the difference on how smooth 4.0 is compared to 2.3 and 3.0 the future looks good right about now....its the waiting that is killing me lol
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I am considering the Galaxy S III to keep my Verizon Unlimited Data plan, but I am wondering if it is rootable?
S. Prime said:
I am considering the Galaxy S III to keep my Verizon Unlimited Data plan, but I am wondering if it is rootable?
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Samsung phones are ALWAYS rootable. They allow it. In fact, the bootloader just gives you a warning but lets you.
Which one do i get!?!?!?! I cant decide... help me!
I don't think i will get 4G anytime soon (too expensive on my network) so i really don't know which version to get? which on has better battery life etc..
pls help, detailed answers will be really helpful. I need to make a decision before Friday.
I suggest, go for S4 I9500 Octa-Core. Check my detailed previous reply to a similar question.
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Octa= heads, quad=tails..good luck Mine was tails and I'm very happy with it. Did you do any research yet? Enough on the web about it.
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I suggest, go for S4 I9500 Octa-Core. Check my detailed previous reply to a similar question.
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When i click to see your previous posts i get this 'Search is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.'
Can you give me the link?
Thanks
I would recommend the quad core. I have the octa cor myself but the quad core is said to have better battery life and it has LOTS of custom roms
Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
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slig said:
Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
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I dont think it failed entirely. If the exynos 1.6GHz quad can beat the 1.9GHz quad Krait in terms of performance than that's a feat in itself.
Get the one which is officially sold in your country.
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pls help, detailed answers will be really helpful. I need to make a decision before Friday.
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Well..it's Friday did you make a decision?
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Well..it's Friday did you make a decision?
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Yepp getting the quad core one.. i9505
Thanks for all the help guys
You made the best decision enjoy!
I have the octa core and i love it! Although I would add that i do not have the quad core to compare with. Both are great.
In the end it all boils down to LTE or not to LTE. I chose not to. For me, anything above 3Mbps is quite handy. And i get 6Mbps+ approx on my AT&T prepaid HSPA+.
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Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
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Actually all the 8cores could together but just not ATM , only after Hmp will be implemented.
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octa 11 hours talk time, quad 18 hours talk time, according to a review.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
octa 11 hours talk time, quad 18 hours talk time, according to a review.
John.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p6.php
"Performance-wise, the octa-core Exynos has a slight advantage, but that's not because of the higher number of cores. You have got to remember that only a single set of four cores is active at a any single time - either the power-sipping Cortex A7's or the number-crunching Cortex A15's.
It is evident from our tests however, that the Exynos version of the Galaxy S4 is not much more powerful than the Snapdragon 600. Furthermore, the battery life performance of the Exynos-touting variant is consistently worse than the one by the Snapdragon 600 version."
Which is why i picked i9505. Almost no difference in speed but big difference in battery. My i9505 lasts almost 2 days sometimes.
OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!
s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
noremac258 said:
If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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noremac258 said:
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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DeepankarS said:
Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
noremac258 said:
There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
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Stop guys, everyone comes here thinks "Damn, I came in a battlefield?" [emoji14]
Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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Thanks!
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