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What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
jtl999 said:
What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
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you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
jtl999 said:
Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
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I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
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Please try with Telus firmware please. Currently on MJ1
radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
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The harm in trying is a hardbrick.
Well yes there is that, however I am not overly fussed about it, as most HB's can be revived. I am aware of all the risks, so will be my fault 100% if I brick myself.
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
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CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
radicalisto said:
CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
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Sorry. Can't understand exactly. What exactly means what versions you can run with a new bootloader?
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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radicalisto said:
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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I know how bootloaders work. Isn't there a way to omit bootloaders from Odin tar.md5 updates? Once I/Someone figures that out I'm golden staying with my old bootloader. Currently on MJ1.
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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hi, can you elaborate?
i always thought samsung doesn't let you downgrade to an older bootloader. but if you install CM (not samsung official updates) the bootloader doesn't get updated so you can downgrade in the future.
unless you upgrade to 4.4.2 official samsung ROM and update the bootloader, then you'll never be able to downgrade again?
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
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No, if you want to try out kitkat i recommend you to use a cyanogenmod based 4.4 like probam, it doesn't update your bootloader and you can just downgrade back to jellybean
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Hi, I have the note 3 SM-N9005 i rooted it 2 days ago but with no success. Then I tried again later on that day and finally got it to work but the keyboard would not work. Now today I tried re-doing it all but now I get the boot logo then after that just a black screen. What is the problem? Can someone help me I am kind of worried and frustrated.
Root - CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
Odin3 v3.07 and I also tried the older version.
LemonLemsip said:
Hi, I have the note 3 SM-N9005 i rooted it 2 days ago but with no success. Then I tried again later on that day and finally got it to work but the keyboard would not work. Now today I tried re-doing it all but now I get the boot logo then after that just a black screen. What is the problem? Can someone help me I am kind of worried and frustrated.
Root - CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
Odin3 v3.07 and I also tried the older version.
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Jelly Bean 4.3 or Kitkat 4.4 ? -- take your battery out for 30secs then put back in, go to recovery, wipe cache and restart the device
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radicalisto said:
Jelly Bean 4.3 or Kitkat 4.4 ? -- take your battery out for 30secs then put back in, go to recovery, wipe cache and restart the device
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Okay it was on 4.3 Jelly Bean, But my friend send me a file to download and I rooted it with that but it turn't the version to 4.4.2 then my keyboard wouldn't work so I rooted it again and now it's faked just goes black screen after boot logo.
LemonLemsip said:
Okay it was on 4.3 Jelly Bean, But my friend send me a file to download and I rooted it with that but it turn't the version to 4.4.2 then my keyboard wouldn't work so I rooted it again and now it's faked just goes black screen after boot logo.
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Rooting your device won't make it have 4.4.2 -- so if you've upgraded to 4.4.2 -- Grab Odin, flash XEO Poland Stock Rom (plenty of links on XDA) then it should be OK
radicalisto said:
Rooting your device won't make it have 4.4.2 -- so if you've upgraded to 4.4.2 -- Grab Odin, flash XEO Poland Stock Rom (plenty of links on XDA) then it should be OK
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Could you provide me a link so I know am I getting the correct one.
LemonLemsip said:
Could you provide me a link so I know am I getting the correct one.
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Here you go
Its cool don't worry
@XiphoneUzer thanks
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Thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4707707 (ERIC-MOD) for guiding me, today I would like to share my experience on how to downgrade the SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 10.1 (GT-N8000) from the Samsung official firmware update Android 4.4.2 BACK TO Android 4.1.2
Requirements
-1. Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 (for models like N8010 or N8013 may work also) *NOT A BRICKED ONES
-2. Root access required (For those doesn't know how to root, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8440QhHsw this guide will help you)
-3. [root] Mobile ODIN Pro https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en
-4. Note 10.1 GT-N8000 ANDROID 4.1.2 Jellybean Firmware http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=gt-n8000 (If you're having N8010: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=gt-n8010 If you're having N8013: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-N8013 ) Make sure to find your own country's firmware (Update: Here's a new link for firmwares: https://samsung-firmware.org/model/GT-N8000/ )
Optional
-Notebook or PC running Windows
-Samsung USB Cable (Use genuine if possible)
It is very good to hear that Samsung had published a new firmware update for Note 10.1, that is the newest Android version (KitKat 4.4.2 update), but it is also very annoying that all the functions we usually used are gone (Example: Screenshot button, S Pen Shortcut Toolbar, Multi Window and so on). It also became very laggy (don't know whether you experience such problem) and can't even multitask anymore. Some of you might not experience that because it depends on how you uses the tablet, but some of you may be regretting why did u update your device......you might be searching for a guide to downgrade it..... And you found this post!
I'm not responsible if you bricked your device or making your device even worse using this tutorial! If you don't think that you are experiencing any problem or actually you liked Android KITKAT more than JELLYBEAN, you have the rights not to downgrade it, I am not forcing you to downgrade your device, its your own choice. Also, YOU ARE TAKING YOUR OWN RISK TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID!
Let's Get Started
Preparation
1. Make sure your device is ROOTED.
2. Backup all your important data and all your apps, you may use Helium Backup for Android
3. Make sure you have [root] Mobile ODIN Pro installed on your device.
4. Make sure you downloaded the Android 4.1.2 firmware into your device's SD card or internal storage.
*Optional- or download it using PC and transfer to your device.
Main Instruction
1. Launch [root] Mobile ODIN Pro.
2. Grand access with superuser.
3. Mobile Odin Pro requires an add on, so DOWNLOAD IT.
4. Select "Open File... (Open file to archive .tar, .tar.md5, and separate files supported)"
5. Locate to where you downloaded your 4.1.2 firmware.
6. Everything will be automatically done, now just TICK the Wipe date and cache, TICK the Wipe Dalvik cache (as shown in the picture below)
7. Click Flash firmware (please keep in mind your device will factory reset it)
8. Wait for some time and it should be revert back to your BELOVED ANDROID 4.1.2 JELLYBEAN SYSTEM!
It's simple, but only the time matters. So this is how I Downgrade it (Again SUPER THANKS TO http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4707707 MR. ERIC-MOD, without his help, I wouldn't have my device getting downgraded).
This thread shows how he helped me out http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...how-to-downgrade-note10-1-n8000-to-4-t2807106
Hope you guys enjoy this~ If you have any question, or you find that I am wrong, reply me to let me know so that i can update the details~
If I've helped you, please give me a "Thanks" by pressing 'thanks button', or also say thanks to Eric-Mod
Q: Can I use Odin PC version?
A: Sorry, you can't. It might end up soft breaking your device.
Q: Can I downgrade my device to android 4.1.2 with a custom android 4.4.2 rom?
A: It's better not to downgrade using this method as it is used for downgrading from Samsung Official android 4.4.2 firmware to android 4.1.2 firmware, not a custom android 4.4.2 firmware.But...you can still try it if you want to take the risk. (AUG, 3rd, 2014, Tested by a junior member 'johnattas' from XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=5092748 , was told that downgrading from a custom rom using this method was a success. More info on page 3, you can find it yourself)
*PS* 1. received a complaint that after downgrading, should not allow Samsung to update itself or else may cause brick.
2. received a complaint that after downgrading, cannot charge the device when it is turned off. Still can charge when turned on.
3. received a private message from andrewjcox telling that the above method had successfully downgraded his Note 10.1 N8020 model. Not sure how he did it on "N8020" device, message him for more info if you need help.
Note: I will keep updating this thread for more detailed tutorial. (Discontinued)
Note! 10th of June, 2016 I will no longer provide supports to this tutorial., Chances of worsening your device are low I would say, you can still use the tutorial but it is your own RISK to do that.
Hi, I have a KitKat leacked ROM on my n8010, Is there any method to revert bootloader?
(Sorry for my bad english).
erthor96 said:
Hi, I have a KitKat leacked ROM on my n8010, Is there any method to revert bootloader?
(Sorry for my bad english).
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I don't think you can because of KNOX loaded onboard.
erthor96 said:
Hi, I have a KitKat leacked ROM on my n8010, Is there any method to revert bootloader?
(Sorry for my bad english).
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Sorry, I don't know how to revert it because there is no need to revert using [root] Mobile Odin Pro...
Anyways, why do you need to revert it?
And.... It seems like your rom was not the official samsung official update.... you having custom kitkat rom?
TenchuXDA said:
Sorry, I don't know how to revert it because there is no need to revert using [root] Mobile Odin Pro...
Anyways, why do you need to revert it?
And.... It seems like your rom was not the official samsung official update.... you having custom kitkat rom?
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No, I haven't root, and I want to revert it when will be release a official KitKat update, for return completly to stock.
erthor96 said:
No, I haven't root, and I want to revert it when will be release a official KitKat update, for return completly to stock.
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You want to update to the samsung official update kitkat? I recommend you don't update, it's laggy, some of key features has gone, and this is why i posted this thread for downgrading back to 4.1.2 jellybean.
Root also lets you to have more options to modify your tablet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8440QhHsw This is a very simple way to root it.
Please tell me if I had misunderstood what you have said and by the way it is not really possible to revert bootloader as i can't find any tutorial for this until now.
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You want to update to the samsung official update kitkat? I recommend you don't update, it's laggy, some of key features has gone, and this is why i posted this thread for downgrading back to 4.1.2 jellybean.
Root also lets you to have more options to modify your tablet... This is a very simple way to root it.
Please tell me if I had misunderstood what you have said and by the way it is not possible to revert bootloader as i can't find any tutorial for this.
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OK, thanks for your answer, but will be possibile in future, are there any possibility to do this or it's impossibile at all?
erthor96 said:
OK, thanks for your answer, but will be possibile in future, are there any possibility to do this or it's impossibile at all?
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Well... Maybe it will be possible in the future because IMPOSSIBLE = I'M POSSIBLE:fingers-crossed:, but you dunno how long you will need to wait for someone who finds out how to unlock it, and even though if someone really unlocks it already, doesn't mean he will do tutorial for how to unlock (anyway i found this http://www.galaxyunlocker.com/pages/how-to-unlock-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-n8000 if you liked). You get what i meant?
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Well... Maybe it will be possible in the future because IMPOSSIBLE = I'M POSSIBLE:fingers-crossed:, but you dunno how long you will need to wait for someone who finds out how to unlock it, and even though if someone really unlocks it already, doesn't mean he will do tutorial for how to unlock (anyway i found this http://www.galaxyunlocker.com/pages/how-to-unlock-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-n8000 if you liked). You get what i meant?
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Yes, i've understand what you meant
can we use odin 3.07
Jaspreet.master7 said:
can we use odin 3.07
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OH PLEASE DON'T! It MIGHT ending up soft breaking your device. Thats why I mentioned [root] mobile odin pro for downgrading.
battery wont charge when note is turned off
I downgraded my n8000 to jb 4.1.2 exactly as you described
Every thing is ok but when note is off and connected to charger
Only battery icon stuck and not charging only charge when note is on
I did not know there was a problem with downgrading from 4.4.2, so I casually flashed a custom 4.0.4 ROM and then a custom 4.1.2 ROM. So far, there has been nothing wrong with my N8000, but seeing this worried me a bit. Am I supposed to do anything else?
khaledgohany said:
I downgraded my n8000 to jb 4.1.2 exactly as you described
Every thing is ok but when note is off and connected to charger
Only battery icon stuck and not charging only charge when note is on
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Oh, I got this too.
vns_firefly said:
I did not know there was a problem with downgrading from 4.4.
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Same here. I was on official 4.1.2 with root and custom recovery and did a nandroid backup before I upgraded to official 4.4.2 the other day.
The custom recovery got replaced with stock recovery after the upgrade so I reflashed it (the custom recovery) in Odin 3.09. I then booted into custom recovery and restored the nandroid for my 4.1.2 backup.
Everything is working just fine, no charging issues with the screen on or off.
same device info but not rooted
Hi. I also like to downgrade my n8000 and I've checked your other post, we have the same information about our device but mine is not yet rooted. Honestly I don't know what is rooted or not. I just download a root checker in the playstore coz i've read it in your other post and it says my device is not yet rooted. (Also, i'm not a techie person hehehe so I don't know some other complicated terms ) Can i downgrade without rooting it? Hope I can get back to the jelly bean firmware coz the kitkat really sucks. Hope you can help me. Thanks in advance
Nah mate you have to be rooted.
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Hi. I also like to downgrade my n8000 and I've checked your other post, we have the same information about our device but mine is not yet rooted. Honestly I don't know what is rooted or not. I just download a root checker in the playstore coz i've read it in your other post and it says my device is not yet rooted. (Also, i'm not a techie person hehehe so I don't know some other complicated terms ) Can i downgrade without rooting it? Hope I can get back to the jelly bean firmware coz the kitkat really sucks. Hope you can help me. Thanks in advance
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Hello mate, you MUST ROOT to downgrade. If you dont know how to, follow this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8440QhHsw STEP BY STEP, you will get your device rooted and you may continue downgrading following instructions in tutorial.
angeldolphina said:
Hi. I also like to downgrade my n8000 and I've checked your other post, we have the same information about our device but mine is not yet rooted. Honestly I don't know what is rooted or not. I just download a root checker in the playstore coz i've read it in your other post and it says my device is not yet rooted. (Also, i'm not a techie person hehehe so I don't know some other complicated terms ) Can i downgrade without rooting it? Hope I can get back to the jelly bean firmware coz the kitkat really sucks. Hope you can help me. Thanks in advance
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You can downgrade without rooting. There is one possibility to downgrade without rooting your note 10.1. The method involves downloading stock 4.1.2 rom from sammobile and then removing bootloader files from it then u can flash that modified file with pc odin easily.
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khaledgohany said:
I downgraded my n8000 to jb 4.1.2 exactly as you described
Every thing is ok but when note is off and connected to charger
Only battery icon stuck and not charging only charge when note is on
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I think this problem is related to new 4.4.2 bootloader. Mine also got the situation.
Thanks
a big THANKS to the OP for this detailed and informative post.
I followed all directions and successfully downgraded to a much better build 4.1.2 :good:
Thanks again!!
Wylie
wylie99 said:
a big THANKS to the OP for this detailed and informative post.
I followed all directions and successfully downgraded to a much better build 4.1.2 :good:
Thanks again!!
Wylie
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I'm glad that i helped you, you're welcome~
I read a lot of issues with kitkat.In case I decide that I don't like 4.4 kitkat can I get back to 4.3? There are several methods for galaxy S3 even in youtube but nothing yet on the s3 neo.
bongski55 said:
I read a lot of issues with kitkat.In case I decide that I don't like 4.4 kitkat can I get back to 4.3? There are several methods for galaxy S3 even in youtube but nothing yet on the s3 neo.
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yep just download 4.3 firmware from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/31667/I9300IXXUANE6_I9300IOJVANE2_PAK.zip/ and flash through odin
usman_fareed said:
yep just download 4.3 firmware from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/31667/I9300IXXUANE6_I9300IOJVANE2_PAK.zip/ and flash through odin
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Are you sure that it will not brick the phone? I mean the downgrading from kitkat to jb?
bongski55 said:
Are you sure that it will not brick the phone? I mean the downgrading from kitkat to jb?
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nope cuz i also downgraded and upgraded many times and please confirm that you have i9300i with 1.4 ghz ?
usman_fareed said:
nope cuz i also downgraded and upgraded many times and please confirm that you have i9300i with 1.4 ghz ?
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1.4ghz I9300I
bongski55 said:
1.4ghz I9300I
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yep you can flash this rom just follow the instructions http://forums.androidcentral.com/am...ide-samsung-how-flash-stock-rom-via-odin.html
I read in other forum that when updated to kitkat the bootloader gets updated also. So downdrading to jb is not possible. Also I read that knox gets 0x1.
The latest Hongkong rom seems stable and bug free so far. I will give it a few days before I decide to keep it. There are also some apps that are not working in kitkat. Give them sometime to be compatible....
muntinlupa said:
I read in other forum that when updated to kitkat the bootloader gets updated also. So downdrading to jb is not possible. Also I read that knox gets 0x1.
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as far as i know the device will brick if you downgrade to lower then 4.3. i my self downgraded to 4.3 from 4.4.4 and it worked fine for me but ill suggest that you should stick to kitkat cuz its performance is much better then jb and about the bugs i didnt encounter any bugs
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as far as i know the device will brick if you downgrade to lower then 4.3. i my self downgraded to 4.3 from 4.4.4 and it worked fine for me but ill suggest that you should stick to kitkat cuz its performance is much better then jb and about the bugs i didnt encounter any bugs
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Thanks for your reply. I am now also on hongkong kitkat. Now if only somebody will try the UAE kitkat on their 1.4Ghz phone. ....
Because of a long time used sms blocker not working on kitkat I downgraded to 4.3 successfully......no knox trigger.I am now on TTT 4.3.
bongski55 said:
Because of a long time used sms blocker not working on kitkat I downgraded to 4.3 successfully......no knox trigger.I am now on TTT 4.3.
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hi
can you downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.3? without any problem? your device is i9300i dual with 1.4GHz ?
how?!!
Hello everyone i like to go back to jellybean it more faster and free bug i can't find any 4.3 bootloader and any method that i can downgrade without risk
using SM-N900 Note 3 exynos :good: :good: :good: :good: :good:
Abandoned War Place said:
Hello everyone i like to go back to jellybean it more faster and free bug i can't find any 4.3 bootloader and any method that i can downgrade without risk
using SM-N900 Note 3 exynos :good: :good: :good: :good: :good:
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Read into the developer subforum the thread where it is described how to reset Knox on N900, I believe that one will also downgrade the bootloader. Don't ask anything there until you have read and understood ALL that thread.