What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
jtl999 said:
What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
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you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
jtl999 said:
Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
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I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
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Please try with Telus firmware please. Currently on MJ1
radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
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The harm in trying is a hardbrick.
Well yes there is that, however I am not overly fussed about it, as most HB's can be revived. I am aware of all the risks, so will be my fault 100% if I brick myself.
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
Sent from the Android beast: Galaxy Note 3
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CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
radicalisto said:
CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
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Sorry. Can't understand exactly. What exactly means what versions you can run with a new bootloader?
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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radicalisto said:
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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I know how bootloaders work. Isn't there a way to omit bootloaders from Odin tar.md5 updates? Once I/Someone figures that out I'm golden staying with my old bootloader. Currently on MJ1.
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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hi, can you elaborate?
i always thought samsung doesn't let you downgrade to an older bootloader. but if you install CM (not samsung official updates) the bootloader doesn't get updated so you can downgrade in the future.
unless you upgrade to 4.4.2 official samsung ROM and update the bootloader, then you'll never be able to downgrade again?
jtl999 said:
Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
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No, if you want to try out kitkat i recommend you to use a cyanogenmod based 4.4 like probam, it doesn't update your bootloader and you can just downgrade back to jellybean
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Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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Do not do this. This will brick your phone. If I am not mistaken, there is a method to unlock mk2 in the general section.
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zee24 said:
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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You should ask this in the t mobile s4 forum. I believe your bootloader is unlocked and you can flash an older firmware version. But check there first. This is the att s4 forum. It can't be done on the at&t s4.
Is the service menu missing on the stock T-mo 4.3 ?
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
zee24 said:
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
zee24 said:
I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
jd1639 said:
Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Idk, I'm not that familiar with your device. From the little bit of reading I've done I would say no, you can't flash an older firmware. But again, I'd post this question in the t mobile forum. They'd be more familiar with your device.
zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would.
You would have know by checking in settings under SE
hednik said:
Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would. You would have know by checking in settings under SE
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I remember i soft bricked my phone one time and had to flash my firmware but the 4.3 latest one from sammobile and after i did that i got knox but i believe i already tripped the knox counter because in download mode it says 0x1 so i guess i cant?
I have just been having a read about the 4.4 for N3 and people are talking about the new bootloader and not forcing it and some people being hard bricked.
My question is this, is going from a custom 4.3 to a custom 4.4 is there anything I need to do to make sure it installs correctly or doesn't hard brick?
Or is the only problem going from 4.4 back to 4.3?
At the moment on X-Note and just looking at a couple of the other Touchwiz 4.4 custom roms, if I install one of them can I not go back?
And is this the same for the CM 4.4 Nightlies?
Thanks
alpward said:
I have just been having a read about the 4.4 for N3 and people are talking about the new bootloader and not forcing it and some people being hard bricked.
My question is this, is going from a custom 4.3 to a custom 4.4 is there anything I need to do to make sure it installs correctly or doesn't hard brick?
Or is the only problem going from 4.4 back to 4.3?
At the moment on X-Note and just looking at a couple of the other Touchwiz 4.4 custom roms, if I install one of them can I not go back?
And is this the same for the CM 4.4 Nightlies?
Thanks
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Bootloader will auto install if you choose XEO package.
You cannot go back once you upgrade, so no CM no XNOTE etc (for now at least) - You can go on SweetROM or AndroidNOW and a couple of others though.
radicalisto said:
Bootloader will auto install if you choose XEO package.
You cannot go back once you upgrade, so no CM no XNOTE etc (for now at least) - You can go on SweetROM or AndroidNOW and a couple of others though.
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But I can go from any 4.4 ROM to any other 4.4 ROM? So I could go to CM11 from SweetROM or AndroidNOW?
alpward said:
But I can go from any 4.4 ROM to any other 4.4 ROM? So I could go to CM11 from SweetROM or AndroidNOW?
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CM is 4.4 but the bootloader is MJ7 based. Which means it will not work on the NA6 Bootloader that comes with 4.4.2 -- You can use SweetROM AndroidNOW, KINGDROID or FlexKAT only. No CM Build will run on the NA6 Bootloader currently and probably not for a long time yet.
radicalisto said:
CM is 4.4 but the bootloader is MJ7 based. Which means it will not work on the NA6 Bootloader that comes with 4.4.2 -- You can use SweetROM AndroidNOW, KINGDROID or FlexKAT only. No CM Build will run on the NA6 Bootloader currently and probably not for a long time yet.
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Cool, good to know. If I had backed up a ROM not on NA6, could I restore back to that? That restores the old bootloader, yeah?
Nope, Samsung block all downgrades. And this applies to NA6, which means once you upgrade to NA6 you are stuck with it until further notice with no return. Chances are a return will never be possible the same as going back before MJ7 which is still impossible.
radicalisto said:
Nope, Samsung block all downgrades. And this applies to NA6, which means once you upgrade to NA6 you are stuck with it until further notice with no return. Chances are a return will never be possible the same as going back before MJ7 which is still impossible.
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Just, hopefully, one last thing:
If I do go from a NA6 back to MJ7, will I brick my phone?
alpward said:
Just, hopefully, one last thing:
If I do go from a NA6 back to MJ7, will I brick my phone?
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IF you attempt it you will bootloop, so basically a soft brick yes. And you'll need to reflash NA6 to get out of the bootloop
alpward said:
But I can go from any 4.4 ROM to any other 4.4 ROM? So I could go to CM11 from SweetROM or AndroidNOW?
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What region is your phone? If its Hong Kong TGY, then you can install only Hong Kong Firmware. So, be careful.
rinuvimal said:
What region is your phone? If its Hong Kong TGY, then you can install only Hong Kong Firmware. So, be careful.
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I think I've got a French version, how do I check?
alpward said:
I think I've got a French version, how do I check?
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Dial *#1234# on your phone. You'll you'll see three codes, AP, CP and CSC.
In CSC, check what code you see.
compare it to these region codes : http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Csc
rinuvimal said:
Dial *#1234# on your phone. You'll you'll see three codes, AP, CP and CSC.
In CSC, check what code you see.
compare it to these region codes : http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Csc
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My CSC is N9005OXXDMK3, it doesn't match any of the codes...
@alpward , did you try to update your firmware using Kies3? Since you have a Poland CSC, you should get the Official 4.4.2 update via Kies. Give it a try.
rinuvimal said:
@alpward , did you try to update your firmware using Kies3? Since you have a Poland CSC, you should get the Official 4.4.2 update via Kies. Give it a try.
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I don't really want to go to a non-custom ROM. My other question is, if I backup a pre 4.4 pre-new bootloader ROM, can I restore back to it after going to the new bootloader or does it lock it forever?
alpward said:
I don't really want to go to a non-custom ROM. My other question is, if I backup a pre 4.4 pre-new bootloader ROM, can I restore back to it after going to the new bootloader or does it lock it forever?
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You are locked to the new bootloader forever until further notice.
radicalisto said:
You are locked to the new bootloader forever until further notice.
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Lucky, cause I haven't updated just yet.
alpward said:
Lucky, cause I haven't updated just yet.
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Yip, I'd sit on your current BL for now, see what happens with this new KK stuff in the next few weeks... Especially now sources are available etc also.
radicalisto said:
Yip, I'd sit on your current BL for now, see what happens with this new KK stuff in the next few weeks... Especially now sources are available etc also.
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How can you tell what bootloader the ROM has before installing? As in, CM11 doesn't have the new bootloader, right?
ROM Post should tell you what BL it's running, and yes, CM runs on the old BL either MJ7 or MK* depending on build.
Hi there,
I've got my second N7100 , and it came with the JellyBean 4.3.
I recall the old good times, when the JB 4.1.2 was definitely faster....
The new mobile has never been rooted or upgraded (Knox 0x0), and I was wondering if there is any chance to succesfully downgrade it. I just did the same with a Galaxy S3 with full success and, even f I know they are two completely different devices, it lighted my hopes to do something similar with the Note too, hopefully without increasing the knox counter.
Some info from the current firm (4.3):
AP: N7100XXUEMK9
CP: N7100XXUEMJ9
CSC: N7100ITVEMK2
Downloaded firmware (4.1.2)
N7100XXDME6_N7100ITVDMF1_ITV
(it's an Italian device).
Any info, hope, recommendation?
Thanks!
Starflex said:
Hi there,
I've got my second N7100 , and it came with the JellyBean 4.3.
I recall the old good times, when the JB 4.1.2 was definitely faster....
The new mobile has never been rooted or upgraded (Knox 0x0), and I was wondering if there is any chance to succesfully downgrade it. I just did the same with a Galaxy S3 with full success and, even f I know they are two completely different devices, it lighted my hopes to do something similar with the Note too, hopefully without increasing the knox counter.
Some info from the current firm (4.3):
AP: N7100XXUEMK9
CP: N7100XXUEMJ9
CSC: N7100ITVEMK2
Downloaded firmware (4.1.2)
N7100XXDME6_N7100ITVDMF1_ITV
(it's an Italian device).
Any info, hope, recommendation?
Thanks!
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As far as i'm aware there is currently no hope of downgrading the Note 2 from 4.3 Knox has it locked up tight.
I hunted for a long time after I was seriously underwhelmed by 4.3 and the best I could find was saferoot to root with out tripping knox.
But then you have the problem that The 4.3 "upgrade" locked the bootloader down even tighter so you can't install a custom recovery to flash a 4.1.2 based rom.
All that said there has been some amazing work done by Hashcode and Beastmode I think, who have got Safestrap into a working beta for at least the Verizon Note2. This means you can flash 4.3 based roms for now. (but only the verizon note2 just now...I think)
So there is a bit of hope. I'm running a non network branded Note2 so keeping my eye on how things are going over in the Verizon camp.
4.4.2 is available...why not flash that instead? Its a definite improvement over 4.3.
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stoney73 said:
4.4.2 is available...why not flash that instead? Its a definite improvement over 4.3.
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I'm tempted but the only way to root 4.4.2 just now WILL trip KNOX and I'm not psyched about that.
Also there's a good chance that the 4.4.2 boot loader is locked down tighter yet and we'll have to wait even longer for a work around.
I "upgraded" as soon as 4.3 was available only to find that I'd shot myself in the foot because of the change to the boot loader.
This is just personal opinion...I don't have any facts to back up the guess that the 4.4.2 boot loader is trouble...but I'm waiting for now.
MATT4CK said:
I'm tempted but the only way to root 4.4.2 just now WILL trip KNOX and I'm not psyched about that.
Also there's a good chance that the 4.4.2 boot loader is locked down tighter yet and we'll have to wait even longer for a work around.
I "upgraded" as soon as 4.3 was available only to find that I'd shot myself in the foot because of the change to the boot loader.
This is just personal opinion...I don't have any facts to back up the guess that the 4.4.2 boot loader is trouble...but I'm waiting for now.
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Good point: I have the same feeling and fear at the same time.
Before flashing the 4.4.2 I am waiting to read some positive comments, not olny based on a "first approach" enthusiasm (please let me pass this expression).
I was wondering if any Samsung service center can do the dowgrade, perhaps using some internal software / any ther things that they can use and it is not available for us, "mere mortals" ...
Hmm it's probably something that they COULD do but I don't think that they WOULD do it.
It depends on if they have a "point and shoot" Samsung flashing tool or if they could choose what version of bootloader and firmware to use separately.
Honestly I'm guessing though.
Starflex said:
Hi there,
I've got my second N7100 , and it came with the JellyBean 4.3.
I recall the old good times, when the JB 4.1.2 was definitely faster....
The new mobile has never been rooted or upgraded (Knox 0x0), and I was wondering if there is any chance to succesfully downgrade it. I just did the same with a Galaxy S3 with full success and, even f I know they are two completely different devices, it lighted my hopes to do something similar with the Note too, hopefully without increasing the knox counter.
Some info from the current firm (4.3):
AP: N7100XXUEMK9
CP: N7100XXUEMJ9
CSC: N7100ITVEMK2
Downloaded firmware (4.1.2)
N7100XXDME6_N7100ITVDMF1_ITV
(it's an Italian device).
Any info, hope, recommendation?
Thanks!
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Frist to root it. open usb debug...
this ATTACH FILE is the newest bootloader for note2 n7100..You can replace sboot.bin（find it form old rom...open it with 7zip）..
I didn't do downgrade to JB bootloader ...but.I downgrade to NA1 success...and upgrade to ND3 success.. you can have a try to downgrade bootloader.
Is it possible to downgrade nd3 bootloader?
Careful about flashing bootloaders
Don't flash anything you are not absolutely 250 % sure and wait patiently. Going up to 4.4x might block you even more without a chance to downgrade at all. Don't believe everything you read 4.4x it's a treat. .kit kat remember.
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I flashed the stock UK NF4 rom and then tried flashing the Australian NE3 rom over it but it won't go past the Samsung logo after flashing it.
Nope
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My understanding was that you could flash and kk over each other but not downgrade to jellybean.
uf21 said:
My understanding was that you could flash and kk over each other but not downgrade to jellybean.
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NF can't be downgraded to NE. AFAIK.
Once the letter upgraded u can't gi back to previous letter series. It will be considered downgraded.
The bootloader is different, and it is the ome which lock the downgrading process.
antique_sonic said:
NF can't be downgraded to NE. AFAIK.
Once the letter upgraded u can't gi back to previous letter series. It will be considered downgraded.
The bootloader is different, and it is the ome which lock the downgrading process.
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When did Samsung start doing this? When I had my s3 I was able to downgrade to any version but now I can't even downgrade at all. This is really frustrating. Now I'm stuck on a firmware that cripples my GPS.
uf21 said:
When did Samsung start doing this? When I had my s3 I was able to downgrade to any version but now I can't even downgrade at all. This is really frustrating. Now I'm stuck on a firmware that cripples my GPS.
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With the introduction of JB.
You shouls really research these things beforehand. Mainly because it's mentioned i n pretty much every flash thread.
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uf21 said:
When did Samsung start doing this? When I had my s3 I was able to downgrade to any version but now I can't even downgrade at all. This is really frustrating. Now I'm stuck on a firmware that cripples my GPS.
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samsung started this stuff when they started to use KNOX.
They agressively update the bootloader for any patches useful to protect their system evironment. Therefore, in KK, AFAIK, any changes of the firmware letter, means new bootloader.
what most of users do normally (if they have a rooted device), is just flash a newer custom ROM, and stay with their old bootloader (KK). By doing this way, you still can jump any older custom ROM base without any problem.
But once you flash a new original firmware, it will flash the new bootloader as well. And it is non-downgradable.
cheers.
Hi guys!
My dad has been using the above mentioned device for the past 5.5 years. The device is running a stock rooted 4.2.2 MDJ build. His bank is about to stop the support for the 4.2.2 version so we need to update the OS. The minimum required OS is now KitKat but I would like a more moderate ROM. Is it possible to have for e.g. an Oreo based ROM without Knox? In other words, do some ROMs include a Knox bootloader (to enable them to run)?
Thanks for the help!
Only Samsung ROMs would contain Knox.
The apps should be fine with a stock 5.01 ROM if you want to stick with stock.
If you want to run a custom Oreo ROM, I suggest flashing the latest bootloader and modem before installing Oreo.
The sgh-i337m forum is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
audit13 said:
Only Samsung ROMs would contain Knox.
The apps should be fine with a stock 5.01 ROM if you want to stick with stock.
If you want to run a custom Oreo ROM, I suggest flashing the latest bootloader and modem before installing Oreo.
The sgh-i337m forum is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
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Thanks for the reply!
As I said I would like to evade to flash the Knox bootloader. I know Samsung made it impossible to use their OS without Knox so I'm guessing my only option is to use custom ROMs. Are there any ROMs that still utilise the old bootloader?
You can't flash any bootloader other than stock.
Knox will not interfere with flashing custom ROMs.
Some banking apps will not work with a rooted ROM so you may have to use another app to hide root.
audit13 said:
You can't flash any bootloader other than stock.
Knox will not interfere with flashing custom ROMs.
Some banking apps will not work with a rooted ROM so you may have to use another app to hide root.
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Root is in place just to disable OTA and by the looks of it the banking app doesn't care.
Regarding Knox, I actually think of it as a security downgrade because the NSA played a part in its development and they are known to spy on people. I feel safer when it's not installed LMAO
Is the phone an sgh-i337m or sgh-i337?
The sgh-i337 was made for at&t.
audit13 said:
Is the phone an sgh-i337m or sgh-i337?
The sgh-i337 was made for at&t.
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It's the SGH-I337M. Canadian model. CSC is TLS (Telus)
Okay, just wanted to make sure it wasn't the att model because the 4.3 or newer bootloader is locked on the non-m version.
Anybody have any suggestions for a ROM? It doesn't necessarily need to be the latest version of Android. It just needs to be compatible with the old bootloader
If you're still on MDJ stay on MDJ, don't update your bootloader, only the modem. 4.3 don't have KNOX, just don't update from OTA.
AoEKiller said:
If you're still on MDJ stay on MDJ, don't update your bootloader, only the modem. 4.3 don't have KNOX, just don't update from OTA.
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Don't worry. I won't I am just looking for an at least 4.4 ROM without Knox
AFAIK Knox is on the 4.3 build
Here are a few pics if some of you still don't believe me
Anyone?
Heard also Chrome is losing support for Android 4.2.2