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it just so happens, that my Trinity(6 months old) decided that it likes water, and forced me to sit it in a cup of water in my cars cup holder. i looked at it about ten minutes later, and after yelling some vulgarities at it, and myself, i immediately popped out the battery.
do you guys think this device will come out alive? btw, it went speaker side down in the water... and believe it or not, the trinity can hold ALLOT of water.
if it doesn't come out alive, anyone interested in some trinity parts?
My friend also got a s620 (tmobile branded), and im kinda jealous at what he can do with it... nes games, snes... aim blows... crazy fast test messaging... i was thinking maybe i should one up him and get the cavalier... why is there no thread for the s630? and is it worth it? does it have the same possibility of crazy death scroll issue the s620 could suffer from? any other thoughts?
thanks for any input...
-Ryan
10 minutes.... I don't even think that you can hold your breath under water for that long - not to mention delicate electronic devices....
You did the right thing poping out the battery immediately. Hope that no one called you during its swimming and you didn't touch any buttons after it finished.
Now, what you can do it very limited - you may want to disassemble it - at least open up the case, and then use a hair dryer to blow it for an hour. After that, put it in a box together with some solid state dehydrants for few days.
And pray...
There are cases of Wizard swimming (diving actually) for hours and yet came out well, after the opening up and drying process. There is still hope.
Depends what it was swimming in!
Coffee and Coke are bad Ordinary tap water is also bad because the impurities (calcium etc) will eventually form some microscopic crystals on the MB tracks. Distilled water is best, but I presume you weren't drinking that
Try & disassemble as much as possible, and leave to dry naturally in a warm place for 2-3 days- dpn't be tempted to 'try it out' before that.
Can you claim on your household insurance?
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after the opening up and drying process. There is still hope.
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That's the only solution...and pray maybe (we never know)
meh.
well... i guess the good news is that i have filtered water.... im not talking brita either... im talking huge filtration units in the basement that look like big ol' helium tanks. my water is clean... either way, i don't happen to have any solid state dehydration material handy.. unless were talking about silica gel beads... in which case i have about 8 pounds of it. a drawback to this is that it spews dust all over the place that sticks to everything. i was told to soak it in distilled water, but ive seen what water does to lcd's and touchscreens... they get milky white, and don't work. id rather dip it in isopropl alcohol, swish a few times and spit. and is to praying, i'm not very religious ;p
thanks guys.
Well I do not really know about the trinity and for sure I wish that it has some water resistance, cause things like that happen all the time, but I had my Samsung WEp200, bluetooth in the washing machine inside my shirt's pocket for 1 and half hours in full wash, and after I took it out, it was still working......I am actually talking through that righ now....
Refering to the post above regarding the 'water' the phone is in, if my memory is serving me right, it is lake water, the diving Wizard went to.
Anyway, I seriously not sure if swimming phone happens a lot.. but if you do, you need to get those waterproof phone
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wow...
i never thought it would survive. it did. after being submersed in water for 10 minutes... it had bits of corrosion on the board cause there is a small backup battery onboard, via high voltage soldering tacked to the board... anyway... thanks to that bettery, it almost killed everything for me.
this saved me:
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i ran the main board under the spicket and scrubbed the everliving **** out of it. then i blew it off with an air compressor and let it sit for 2 days. i put it all back together with one screw left, and it booted up! sadly though, it had a kinda 3d effect cause the water got into the lcd layers.... so i pulled that apart( all the layers are on the back of the lcd starting with mirror, not the front). since i was working in a wood shop, it was a bit dusty :/ and i got a tid bit of dust on the layers and it looks nasty... ill get it later with latex gloves and alcohol... blew the layers off and dried them, and it looks great!
just so you know... the lcd is probally the most time consuming peice to take apart and put back together simply because it has 8 different layers that need to be cleaned, if water gets into em... lol..
guess the moral is, don't put your 600.00 phone in water.
Congratulations man! It's really a miracle for you
gratz
hope death will not feel chated like in the movie final destination 1-3
i was kinda disappointed that it worked.. i was looking for another reason to blow 600 on a cavalier s630... scratch that.. i have a projector to pay off... rofl.
its suprise what works after dropped, i've dropped atleast 3 mobiles in the bath ect lol, they still worked after a good dryin out!
Hello,
I was in spain on a river heloing my son jumping from one rock to another when i heard a ""splash""... Ooppps that was my xperia that just dropped out of my pocket into about 4 meters water.
My parents instisted to pick it up while i was just thinking i would get another one from my company.
So i jumped into the water and pick it up...
I did wait about an half day and started it again and guess what? STILL WORKING.
So ic an tell you that HTC device are water resistant
Wow - You got lucky dude!
i dropped mine in the toilet and it broke the screen - it messed up all the colours and everything - was the phone off when you dropped it in?
i'm sure there is some serious corrosion going on inside of the unit. but there is always a chance you'll never have a problem from it.
yes u should dry it some more , half day isnt enuff ...
Lucky guy
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i dropped mine in the toilet
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cedricj said:
Hello,
I was in spain on a river heloing my son jumping from one rock to another when i heard a ""splash""... Ooppps that was my xperia that just dropped out of my pocket into about 4 meters water.
My parents instisted to pick it up while i was just thinking i would get another one from my company.
So i jumped into the water and pick it up...
I did wait about an half day and started it again and guess what? STILL WORKING.
So ic an tell you that HTC device are water resistant
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Have you tried throwing it in lava?
as mentioned already, half a day is not long enough. i suggest you leave it off for a few more days. sure it is working now but while it's powered on, the moisture inside will slowly but surely build up corrosion at the solder joints and battery/power terminals. that' s when things start to go screwy.
take off the battery cover and battery, leave it open with they keyboard showing, wrap the phone in a thin towel or dry wash cloth and place it on top of a tv or something that generates constant heat. it helps to leave a fan blowing as it helps the air circulate and remove unwanted moisture.
leave it to dry for as long as you can live without your xperia. the longer it dries, the better your chances of things not going wrong in the future due to corrosion and whatnot.
this was my old before I got my X1. Picture taken (not with phone...obviously) for insurance company.
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you had to take a picture of it to prove to them??? what if you didnt have one?
Trust me, it's only matter of time, until the oxidizing will kill your phone totaly. Once it gets to the water, it's already on the way to hell. Water and electronics, that's a killer. Especialy if some stupid people take the phone right after droping into the water and wonder that it doesn't work and CHARGE THE DAMN BATTERY!
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Trust me, it's only matter of time, until the oxidizing will kill your phone totaly. Once it gets to the water, it's already on the way to hell. Water and electronics, that's a killer. Especialy if some stupid people take the phone right after droping into the water and wonder that it doesn't work and CHARGE THE DAMN BATTERY!
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Don't be so sure.
Three years ago I dropped my old W800i in the tub and it was fully submerged. I dried it off thoroughly then charged it up, on the assumption that the heat from charging would evaporate the water quickly. It worked, and it's still going.
well I am so sure. As I do work with a service guy and his job is to fix phones.... It's same like droping a cookie into the water and saying later - it looks as new.. It may look like new, but that's only what you can see. Inside the cookie isn't the same cookie as it was once before
That's called "selection bias," dude. The guy you work with gets the phones that did not survive the water. He never touches or sees all the other phones that survived.
There is at least one entire post talking about phones that survived various water submersions.
I have a Dell laptop that died for 3 days after being soaked with rain (2 years ago), and now continues to function after it dried, as well as the SE W800i.
That's 2 for 2. My own selection bias, but not bad at all.
put it in container with rice
lol. that's constant heat, but constant humidity! not a good idea
Dry rice, not a rice cooker.
Why rice?
And I don't think the inside of the phone will suffer corrosion since rivers don't have salt water
And one more thing.. I don't electronic devices don't mind watter as it is, but the electronics do mind because water is a conductor (duh!) and it screws it up inside so that it turns off..
I also heard that after a phone takes a bath in any kind of natural water, it would be good to dip it in distilled water (?) since it's not a conductor and all that stuff.. kewl ha?
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Why rice?
And I don't think the inside of the phone will suffer corrosion since rivers don't have salt water
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Because the rice will absorb any moisture in the air around it.
It will:
http://www.roscoemoss.com/tech_manuals/fmcf/
yeah, we all know from 3th grade of elementary school, that water is a conductor. Which is what most people don't realize. What it does with the motherboard? Motherboard has special thin "skin", which protects it from the corosion or oxidization (damn how to spell that?). But once you put it in the water, the thin "skin" is destroyed and that's it.
So it may work now, next week.. But in the near future it'll die suddenly
I have a water damaged hero, here is why-
Sorry you guys, but EzHero V5 will have to be a blind release. You may ask why? because I am in Seattle, WA USA, spending time with my family and well my cousin thought it would be funny to push me into the lake off the dock. What he didn't know was that I had my hero in my pocket, cause I always have it. Now I have a water damaged hero that I cant get to turn on. I dont have the money (or any money) to fix it or buy a new one, so I will be using my old Nokia for the time being. As for EzHero, The next release will be blind. Donations are appreciated to buy a new hero, Thanks
P.s. My cousin is 12 and they dont think it is his fault, so he or them wont pay for it D:<
I have heard many people say put it in a bag of rice for a couple of days, so I did, but confirm with me this is what you meant-
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Any help is would be great you guys
what i did was put my whole phone into the rice, i've also put my phone on the heater for al couple of hours with the battery out and the micro sd out and with the back cover off and now i have a working hero again
Yup that looks good OP.. just totally cover it in the rice and leave it somewhere warm for a couple of days.. I wouldnt seal the plastic bag either.
The heater will work too.. though I would avoid it unless you could continuously check it or you were 100 percent about how hot the heater will get.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4269047.html
Here you have the same procedure, but you should note, that inside you're hero are stickers which will change the colour if they come in contact with water (check your battery there should also one).
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4269047.html
Here you have the same procedure, but you should note, that inside you're hero are stickers which will change the colour if they come in contact with water (check your battery there should also one).
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What does it mean when it is red? I think it means it does have water damage
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What does it mean when it is red? I think it means it does have water damage
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Yep you're right. That is the indicator which tells htc and other repair-people that the hero got in contact with water.
Hey Xeno, how comfortable are you with opening your phone? I used to repair cells and water damage was the most common, if it was fully submersed and it took you a while to get the battery off then there will most definitely be corrosion on the board, take a soft bristle toothbrush and some 99% isopropyl alcohol(any drug store for cheap) and pour the alcohol directly on the board wherever you see a blueish green buildup (corrosion) and scrub it with the toothbrush, make sure the corrosion is not bridging any contacts on the board causing a short. if the corrosion is being difficult a last resort I used to use for the really bad units was take an everyday cleaner maybe something a little stronger then windex but not something too strong and spray it liberally over the circuit board and use the toothbrush to scrub it clean, don't scrub too hard because some of those components are fragile. just get a decent lather going and make sure all the green spots are gone. now rinse it in very hot water, I used to just turn the tap to hot and leave it run for a minute then rinse it thoroughly and lightly scrub with the brush to make sure there is no soap residue, then let it sit for 10 mins and then pour some isopropyl alcohol on the phone and let it sit in a dry warm area for a few hours/overnight. this will clean the board of corrosion and adding the alcohol will help evaporate the remaining water hidden underneath some of the components. Honestly this didn't work all the time but it worked a bunch of the time...good luck.
I dropped my Hero down the toilet (accidently) at work, jumped after, dried it a couple of days (also in rice) - et voila - it's working like before.
(additonally i used some fumigation spray, just to make sure...as it was not my toilet )
How long has it been ?
After a few hours I used a vacuum cleaner on my wife's Desire too. She had actually put it on a heater to dry which is not the best idea.
Hers works fine now after some 12 hours of drying, she just has a watermark on screen but you only see it when it's off.
Good luck.
Hey, if the rice trick dont work, you could try to flush your phone with clear distilled water, because when the water in your phone is evaporated and sucked out by the rice, there will be minerals in your phone, which can block the access. After you flush it, do the rice trick again.
Do it on your on risk It may damage your phone much more, so take it as a last chance
But i see your not far away from a new hero...i would send some money, but your ezHero wont boot on my hero, so i wait until it works And i´m very broke, too -thats the real reason xD
So good luck, hope you could understand my english
Greetz
Jonas
From hero to zero....
I couldn't resist!!!
So did you get it working?
I am certain that I'm getting the post syntax incorrect, let me know and I'll adjust it.
Anywho, I found out too late that when removing the black goo from the LCD's flex cable, you need to:
1. Heat it gently
2. Pull the goo from the INSIDE EDGE to the OUTSIDE EDGE.
3. Not break that paper-thin, fragile, incredibly tiny sliver of plastic that is the difference between an LCD that will turn on and an LCD that will not!
So, I managed to do none of these things. I went ahead and replaced the digitizer and tried various (failed) methods of mitigating the damage I had wrought, finding no help on the internet, only commiseration.
Tonight I had a flash of inspiration, and what the heck, it worked. I carefully used a needle to separate the tiny wire tips protruding from the clamp (my poorly-considered sideways goo-removal bent a few until they touched each other) while wishing I had a microscope, then I prepared a short length of PLASTIC DRINKING STRAW, folded it in half lengthwise ("long-ways"), and gingerly placed it beneath the overlying digitizer cable so that it compressed the LCD cable against the contacts beneath. I put the phone back together, and here I am today.
Now, I probably should have laid a bit of tape over this so that it won't shake free. I'll wait until it shakes free to do that, then report back.
I fully expect this post to elicit discussion of the dozen ways in which to better achieve this repair, and why my method is the worst of the bunch.
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I guess yours isn't the worst fix!
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I am certain that I'm getting the post syntax incorrect, let me know and I'll adjust it.
Anywho, I found out too late that when removing the black goo from the LCD's flex cable, you need to:
1. Heat it gently
2. Pull the goo from the INSIDE EDGE to the OUTSIDE EDGE.
3. Not break that paper-thin, fragile, incredibly tiny sliver of plastic that is the difference between an LCD that will turn on and an LCD that will not!
So, I managed to do none of these things. I went ahead and replaced the digitizer and tried various (failed) methods of mitigating the damage I had wrought, finding no help on the internet, only commiseration.
Tonight I had a flash of inspiration, and what the heck, it worked. I carefully used a needle to separate the tiny wire tips protruding from the clamp (my poorly-considered sideways goo-removal bent a few until they touched each other) while wishing I had a microscope, then I prepared a short length of PLASTIC DRINKING STRAW, folded it in half lengthwise ("long-ways"), and gingerly placed it beneath the overlying digitizer cable so that it compressed the LCD cable against the contacts beneath. I put the phone back together, and here I am today.
Now, I probably should have laid a bit of tape over this so that it won't shake free. I'll wait until it shakes free to do that, then report back.
I fully expect this post to elicit discussion of the dozen ways in which to better achieve this repair, and why my method is the worst of the bunch.
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Apparently, it's not such a bad idea after all! I'm just wondering how to adapt it to work on an EVO 4G. There's no ribbon to put it underneath, but I get the idea... one would think those incredibly thin/weak plastic clamps (which should be relatively simple to replace) could be purchases for 10 to 100 times what they are worth (say, $3USD?) and problem solved. I put an HD2 screen in an EVO 4G, worked fine, until I didn't glue it in properly, and it popped out. My g/f brought it back to me, saying that I needed to fix it right! I went back in, and that damned wide flex ribbon cable, just the angle I was at, along with my son jumping about the table I was working at, I inadvertently broke that clamp, in three pieces! Damned frustrating too! I gotta get me a dedicated desk for my PC/CELL/TV repairs... with lights, magnifying glass, and a locked door...
Well folks, I have outdone myself today. I was digging through my old tech to harvest the buzzer motor out of an old Boost Mobile Motorola i425 phone. After ripping it apart for the motor, I decided to pick through the rest of the parts to see if there was anything worth keeping (I bet you know where I'm going with this by now), and after harvesting the speakers, I noticed that the LCD cable looked suspiciously similar to the one on my poor Droid X.
3 hours later, I have fully repaired my Droid X. It was pretty tricky though, but I discovered that if you bend the metal bits at either end of the connector down, you can slide the clamp in and then bend them back upright.
Parts reuse FTW! Thanks Motorola! i425's are apparently $5 on eBay now, btw.
You saved my life (and the one from my Sensation). Such a simple and working idea! Thanks!
So, Im not a regular user, but I always read the forum and I thought it might be a good idea to share you this since almost nobody has reported that their back cover is lifting up, as it used to be a common failure on the original XZ (I own one) and not as common on en XZ3c.
Well, I bought the phone on January 11 and it was perfect, it passed the pressure test and had no problems, but on February 28 I realized that the phone didn't passed ir anymore, and then checked the watermark on de downside flap and it was red, and then WOW!! I Didn't even submerged my phone into water, I had just used a bit of water from a glass to clean it off, so it had no sense, well I said, nevermind is not waterproof anymore and is working great, it doesnt matter...
And Yesterday I was looking at the phone and realized the back cover is slightly lifted up on the camera corner, and if i press on that side and run the pressure test It works like a charm...
So thats it, Im raking it to Sony tomorrow, hope they tell me something legit and fix it or replace it.
P.S I dont use my phone as a game center, I dont have any game, heavy app, or record 4k video that might have heaten up the device and melt the glue on the back cover, I really think is a deffective unit.
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You should be okay as in either getting a replacement or getting your device fixed without any costs, because there is no damage to the device and it's possible that the adhesive can let go.:good:
Yeah, bad luck unfortunately. Return it to Sony, hope you get it fixed/replaced quickly.
Good Luck!
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Is... is that a cleaning cloth the phone is resting on?
Because there's still finger prints all over it, you could've used it to wipe the thing! Icky kicky all those smudges.
My money is on a faulty battery. It could puff up a bit and cause enough stress to lift the glass. If that's the case I would power the device off, leave it off, and don't attempt to charge it till it's been serviced/corrected or it could result in fire/explosion/injury/death...
At any point did you discharge the battery to the point where the phone turned itself off?
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My money is on a faulty battery. It could puff up a bit and cause enough stress to lift the glass. If that's the case I would power the device off, leave it off, and don't attempt to charge it till it's been serviced/corrected or it could result in fire/explosion/injury/death...
At any point did you discharge the battery to the point where the phone turned itself off?
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I Never discharged my phone below 20-30%, actually most of the days I arribad home on a 50% and charge it BEFORE I go to bed so it doesnt get overcharged during night charge... Im really careful with my phones I think is just defective, probably the heaviest app I had installed was Facebook... And Nerflix (which I never used).
Today I left the phone at Sony under warranty, I have to go in 10 days to get it back fixed or a new phone, depends what Sony says.
It happened to me to. They fixed it pretty fast, no questions asked
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It happened to me to. They fixed it pretty fast, no questions asked
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Glad to hear that! Did they replaced the back cover, glued the old one or replaced your phone?
Believe it or not, they replaced everything BUT the back cover!
So they changed digitizer, flaps and the frame (both the glossy part and frosted plastic part).
Also they unlocked my phone to all networks and made my bootloader unlockable.
So it was a winwin situation
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Believe it or not, they replaced everything BUT the back cover!
So they changed digitizer, flaps and the frame (both the glossy part and frosted plastic part).
Also they unlocked my phone to all networks and made my bootloader unlockable.
So it was a winwin situation
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Legit. Next time my wheel get removed from my car, I'll leave it on the ground and will put a new car right where my wheel is standing. It's safer.
Sony acts in strange ways
Well! Today I went to pick up my phone, and they replaced it with a brand new unit! Thanks Sony!