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Indestructable Phone? (or more likely, just luck!)

Wow.... just Wow.
10 minutes ago i was on the balcony of my building here looking at my phone checking an email, when a friend who was talking to me got rather physical with his talking and accidently swung his hand into mine, causing my lovely Hermes to fly over the balcony and land approx 20ft below onto cold hard concrete (all this happened in slow motion obviously)..
the battery and back flew of in opposite directions and we both stood there looking over the balcony with our mouths open.
well i went down and put it back together (just the battery, stylus and battery cover came off)
as i came into the building again i thought i might as well try turning it on but there wouldn't be a chance in hell it would work..
but
it
DID
it turned on... and the screen wasn't cracked or even marked. i thought, well maybe the touch sensitivity is dead.... again, no it was fine. ok maybe I'll try the phone... :O whoa.. it ALL seems to be ok.
considering me and a few of my mates have accidently killed thier Wizards merely by farting near them (ok slight exageration but you get my drift) i must say i'm very impressed with the robustness of the Hermes.
i'm also bloody glad its working cos i cancelled the insurance pack on it the other day too!

Care to give more details on.. the cover (any means of protection) you had on it, and point of impact (e.g. the part which your phone first touch the ground - look for the area that is messed up the most).
From what it seems, it is likely to be luck. Dont try it again And put up a sign, 'Kids, dont try this at home' at your post above.

yeah i know its just luck. but its a good advert for the hermes robustness
no protection. other than a crappy screen protector which would have made no difference.
point of impact was pretty much exactly the little round hole bit on the bottom right on the back.
no need for a dont try this at home. if anyones dumb enough to copy then they deserve all they got coming to them!

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I see boobies!! LOL

myztikal47 said:
I see boobies!! LOL
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Yes... well.... It's lunch hour, but when we finish that bit of light entertainment we will deal with "thefunkygibbon"
Then we'll see the goodies (in-joke )
Mike

Hermes are amazingly durable, but I think dropping them off a building and them still working is luck.
You should be seperated from your Hermes, since you obviously have a complete disregard for it.. Blasphemy...

my hermes has dropped 4 times from about 1m to 1m vertical+60cm in horizontal.., three times into the the original case..
- The first time the left keyboard slide doesn't "click" when opened for 3 days.. now it's ok o), 1 corner damaged. (with cover)
- Second time, this time without case, the keyboard, opened, is swell at the center.. just fix the lateral keyb joints.
- 3rd and 4th time, with the case, the second and third corners goes out (scratches) and, maybe for the use, the pen is easy to pull out (the first 15 days was VERY HARD to remove)
Maybe at the end of the year, or i change the cover, or buy a new pda

SkizZO said:
my hermes has dropped 4 times from about 1m to 1m vertical+60cm in horizontal.., three times into the the original case..
- The first time the left keyboard slide doesn't "click" when opened for 3 days.. now it's ok o), 1 corner damaged. (with cover)
- Second time, this time without case, the keyboard, opened, is swell at the center.. just fix the lateral keyb joints.
- 3rd and 4th time, with the case, the second and third corners goes out (scratches) and, maybe for the use, the pen is easy to pull out (the first 15 days was VERY HARD to remove)
Maybe at the end of the year, or i change the cover, or buy a new pda
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You are even worse than thefunkygibbon. Please consider yourself lined up for a session as shown above.
Mike

congrats on... your unkillable phone. You should donate it to the developers for a scientific study.

now i know what to throw at that damn guy who's stalking my girl.. ahhaha!

I must say they are suprisingly robust. I droped mine from mike 1-1.5 meter hight around 8 times in the pub before I replaced it (camera broke). At worst the keyboard pops up so you have to press it back in. No major scratches or anything. Then one day the camera just broke so I now have a new one which I havent dropped yet... It still has the same **** issues as my first which I thought first was caused by me dropping it but apparently not.

I am proud to say I have never, ever, dropped any of my cell phones, and especially not my Hermes. I would probably take a dive to land underneath my Hermes if I did end up dropping it!

Dropped 8525 Stories
I had my 2 day old unprotected Cingular 8525 in my golf cart cup holder. It was about 25 degrees out and we were traveling full speed on a concrete pathway when we hit a speed bump. In slow motion, of course, my 8525 rose out of the cup holder and slammed into the concrete pathway, from about three feet in the air, and slid about 10 to 15 feet screen down. The battery cover flew off and the battery came out.
Low and behold, there was not a scratch or any damage to the phone. Everything still works great to this day (7 months later). I have had several minor drops tot he ground since then as well.
What a great phone!!!

My Xperia deep in gthe water... and still working

Hello,
I was in spain on a river heloing my son jumping from one rock to another when i heard a ""splash""... Ooppps that was my xperia that just dropped out of my pocket into about 4 meters water.
My parents instisted to pick it up while i was just thinking i would get another one from my company.
So i jumped into the water and pick it up...
I did wait about an half day and started it again and guess what? STILL WORKING.
So ic an tell you that HTC device are water resistant

Wow - You got lucky dude!
i dropped mine in the toilet and it broke the screen - it messed up all the colours and everything - was the phone off when you dropped it in?

i'm sure there is some serious corrosion going on inside of the unit. but there is always a chance you'll never have a problem from it.

yes u should dry it some more , half day isnt enuff ...

Lucky guy

comeradealexi said:
i dropped mine in the toilet
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cedricj said:
Hello,
I was in spain on a river heloing my son jumping from one rock to another when i heard a ""splash""... Ooppps that was my xperia that just dropped out of my pocket into about 4 meters water.
My parents instisted to pick it up while i was just thinking i would get another one from my company.
So i jumped into the water and pick it up...
I did wait about an half day and started it again and guess what? STILL WORKING.
So ic an tell you that HTC device are water resistant
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Have you tried throwing it in lava?

as mentioned already, half a day is not long enough. i suggest you leave it off for a few more days. sure it is working now but while it's powered on, the moisture inside will slowly but surely build up corrosion at the solder joints and battery/power terminals. that' s when things start to go screwy.
take off the battery cover and battery, leave it open with they keyboard showing, wrap the phone in a thin towel or dry wash cloth and place it on top of a tv or something that generates constant heat. it helps to leave a fan blowing as it helps the air circulate and remove unwanted moisture.
leave it to dry for as long as you can live without your xperia. the longer it dries, the better your chances of things not going wrong in the future due to corrosion and whatnot.

this was my old before I got my X1. Picture taken (not with phone...obviously) for insurance company.
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you had to take a picture of it to prove to them??? what if you didnt have one?

Trust me, it's only matter of time, until the oxidizing will kill your phone totaly. Once it gets to the water, it's already on the way to hell. Water and electronics, that's a killer. Especialy if some stupid people take the phone right after droping into the water and wonder that it doesn't work and CHARGE THE DAMN BATTERY!

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Trust me, it's only matter of time, until the oxidizing will kill your phone totaly. Once it gets to the water, it's already on the way to hell. Water and electronics, that's a killer. Especialy if some stupid people take the phone right after droping into the water and wonder that it doesn't work and CHARGE THE DAMN BATTERY!
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Don't be so sure.
Three years ago I dropped my old W800i in the tub and it was fully submerged. I dried it off thoroughly then charged it up, on the assumption that the heat from charging would evaporate the water quickly. It worked, and it's still going.

well I am so sure. As I do work with a service guy and his job is to fix phones.... It's same like droping a cookie into the water and saying later - it looks as new.. It may look like new, but that's only what you can see. Inside the cookie isn't the same cookie as it was once before

That's called "selection bias," dude. The guy you work with gets the phones that did not survive the water. He never touches or sees all the other phones that survived.
There is at least one entire post talking about phones that survived various water submersions.
I have a Dell laptop that died for 3 days after being soaked with rain (2 years ago), and now continues to function after it dried, as well as the SE W800i.
That's 2 for 2. My own selection bias, but not bad at all.

put it in container with rice

lol. that's constant heat, but constant humidity! not a good idea

Dry rice, not a rice cooker.

Why rice?
And I don't think the inside of the phone will suffer corrosion since rivers don't have salt water
And one more thing.. I don't electronic devices don't mind watter as it is, but the electronics do mind because water is a conductor (duh!) and it screws it up inside so that it turns off..
I also heard that after a phone takes a bath in any kind of natural water, it would be good to dip it in distilled water (?) since it's not a conductor and all that stuff.. kewl ha?

MidnightMadness said:
Why rice?
And I don't think the inside of the phone will suffer corrosion since rivers don't have salt water
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Because the rice will absorb any moisture in the air around it.
It will:
http://www.roscoemoss.com/tech_manuals/fmcf/

yeah, we all know from 3th grade of elementary school, that water is a conductor. Which is what most people don't realize. What it does with the motherboard? Motherboard has special thin "skin", which protects it from the corosion or oxidization (damn how to spell that?). But once you put it in the water, the thin "skin" is destroyed and that's it.
So it may work now, next week.. But in the near future it'll die suddenly

Water damaged hero?

I have a water damaged hero, here is why-
Sorry you guys, but EzHero V5 will have to be a blind release. You may ask why? because I am in Seattle, WA USA, spending time with my family and well my cousin thought it would be funny to push me into the lake off the dock. What he didn't know was that I had my hero in my pocket, cause I always have it. Now I have a water damaged hero that I cant get to turn on. I dont have the money (or any money) to fix it or buy a new one, so I will be using my old Nokia for the time being. As for EzHero, The next release will be blind. Donations are appreciated to buy a new hero, Thanks
P.s. My cousin is 12 and they dont think it is his fault, so he or them wont pay for it D:<
I have heard many people say put it in a bag of rice for a couple of days, so I did, but confirm with me this is what you meant-
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Any help is would be great you guys

what i did was put my whole phone into the rice, i've also put my phone on the heater for al couple of hours with the battery out and the micro sd out and with the back cover off and now i have a working hero again

Yup that looks good OP.. just totally cover it in the rice and leave it somewhere warm for a couple of days.. I wouldnt seal the plastic bag either.
The heater will work too.. though I would avoid it unless you could continuously check it or you were 100 percent about how hot the heater will get.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4269047.html
Here you have the same procedure, but you should note, that inside you're hero are stickers which will change the colour if they come in contact with water (check your battery there should also one).

Seelbreaker said:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4269047.html
Here you have the same procedure, but you should note, that inside you're hero are stickers which will change the colour if they come in contact with water (check your battery there should also one).
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What does it mean when it is red? I think it means it does have water damage

xenoside said:
What does it mean when it is red? I think it means it does have water damage
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Yep you're right. That is the indicator which tells htc and other repair-people that the hero got in contact with water.

Hey Xeno, how comfortable are you with opening your phone? I used to repair cells and water damage was the most common, if it was fully submersed and it took you a while to get the battery off then there will most definitely be corrosion on the board, take a soft bristle toothbrush and some 99% isopropyl alcohol(any drug store for cheap) and pour the alcohol directly on the board wherever you see a blueish green buildup (corrosion) and scrub it with the toothbrush, make sure the corrosion is not bridging any contacts on the board causing a short. if the corrosion is being difficult a last resort I used to use for the really bad units was take an everyday cleaner maybe something a little stronger then windex but not something too strong and spray it liberally over the circuit board and use the toothbrush to scrub it clean, don't scrub too hard because some of those components are fragile. just get a decent lather going and make sure all the green spots are gone. now rinse it in very hot water, I used to just turn the tap to hot and leave it run for a minute then rinse it thoroughly and lightly scrub with the brush to make sure there is no soap residue, then let it sit for 10 mins and then pour some isopropyl alcohol on the phone and let it sit in a dry warm area for a few hours/overnight. this will clean the board of corrosion and adding the alcohol will help evaporate the remaining water hidden underneath some of the components. Honestly this didn't work all the time but it worked a bunch of the time...good luck.

I dropped my Hero down the toilet (accidently) at work, jumped after, dried it a couple of days (also in rice) - et voila - it's working like before.
(additonally i used some fumigation spray, just to make sure...as it was not my toilet )

How long has it been ?
After a few hours I used a vacuum cleaner on my wife's Desire too. She had actually put it on a heater to dry which is not the best idea.
Hers works fine now after some 12 hours of drying, she just has a watermark on screen but you only see it when it's off.
Good luck.

Hey, if the rice trick dont work, you could try to flush your phone with clear distilled water, because when the water in your phone is evaporated and sucked out by the rice, there will be minerals in your phone, which can block the access. After you flush it, do the rice trick again.
Do it on your on risk It may damage your phone much more, so take it as a last chance
But i see your not far away from a new hero...i would send some money, but your ezHero wont boot on my hero, so i wait until it works And i´m very broke, too -thats the real reason xD
So good luck, hope you could understand my english
Greetz
Jonas

From hero to zero....
I couldn't resist!!!

So did you get it working?

Yet another water survival tale. Or is it?

As stupid as I am, I managed to go into a lake with my SGS2 in my pocket. 5 underwater minutes later, when I realized how much of an idiot I am, I took it out of my pocket, took out the back cover, SIM, SD Card, battery and left it out do dry.
One day later I tried the SGS2 back on and it came alive but showed me a quite scary gray (like static) screen.
I left it for two more days inside a bowl of rice and tried it on again: it booted withour as much as a glitch but the battery overheated really fast (in 2 minutes it had gone up to 48oC). The heat seemed to come straight from something on the right of the battery when looking at the backside. So I unscrewed it and left it as dismantled as I had the heart for another day of drying.
Has anyone ever been so stupid and had a similar problem? Do you know what the overheating component might be (I'm guessing it's a RF circuit according to the service manual)? Should it be safe to try it on again?
Cheers!

I have been that stupid once but I've never been so foolish/brash to turn the phone the phone on after a day. It's best to leave the phone in some rice at least for a week so that you don't risk a shortage.
A friend was foolish enough to try and turn it on after a day. Let's just say that it didn't work out because the phone had shorted itself.

better get a new liquid water damage indicator sticker on ebay

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that would never be me .. i like my SGS2 too much

i lol'd hard at the pic

I used to work for phones4U some years ago we had a box of silica gel packs (from shoe boxes) that we would put phones in to dry out.
you can normally get them free if you ask nicely in a shoe or bag shop.
it absorbs better than rice, just place the phone with them and put in a warm dry place like an airing cupboard.
re the battery heat have you tried a different battery? best to eliminate the consumables before trying to fix a mobo that may not be broken.
if you do find its the mobo have a look to see if any of the legs on the chips have got green copper oxide bridging and shorting out.
if they have you can try cleaning with cotton buds (Q tips over the pond) and some
alcohol (remember a little dab'l'do)

water effects can be seen even months after contact.
because contacts and metallic parts start to corrode in time.
I've seen once in a phone service that they are using a special solution that remove moister from the phones.
also, tap water contains chlorine and that's affecting the parts too.
Battery is another issue, as you discovered, because water gets into it and makes battery elements/electrodes short-circuit.
My suggestion is to take it to a phone repair service as soon as possible and let them measure the battery and evaluate the phone.
In Romania a 2.000 milliamp battery costs around 20 euro so it will be rather cheap to fix only that.
and one more thing, let it powered off, without the battery in until get it fixed.

hi all
my gf just washed my gs2 in the washing machine
without telling me she wanted to turn on the phone but of course it doesn't work, hope it's going to work when it will dry...
i took of the battery, the sim card and the sd card, putted all of them in a bowl of uncooked rice over a heater
can someone tell me if i did something wrong? or if i have to do something else, don't want to loose my lovely gs2 :crying:

If you're a careful person I recommend to take the phone apart and clean it all with alcohol ( use alcohol and a toothbrush) or take it to someone with experience... and you probably need to replace your USB flex since those poor things are very fragile

That pic made me laugh so bad !

krayndr said:
If you're a careful person I recommend to take the phone apart and clean it all with alcohol ( use alcohol and a toothbrush) or take it to someone with experience... and you probably need to replace your USB flex since those poor things are very fragile
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i'm going to let it like this 2 days and i will see after, it's w.e and everything is closed...

zool84 said:
hi all
my gf just washed my gs2 in the washing machine
without telling me she wanted to turn on the phone but of course it doesn't work, hope it's going to work when it will dry...
i took of the battery, the sim card and the sd card, putted all of them in a bowl of uncooked rice over a heater
can someone tell me if i did something wrong? or if i have to do something else, don't want to loose my lovely gs2 :crying:
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and please don't scold your GF.
Just let your phone dry.

The worst moment is when you are going to jump from a high point at the point when one leg is in air and the other one still touching the ground and you realise that ur gs2 is in your pocket but now you cannot stop yourself cause of momentum lol, you are like"mother of God "

drraptor said:
and please don't scold your GF.
Just let your phone dry.
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lol no but it was really stupid to not check my pockets ...

notanoob said:
that would never be me .. i like my SGS2 too much
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don't say never ^^
If I ever do similar I would dissemble ph & leave it bag of rice for a month!
Sent from Valhalla :mwhahaha:

zool84 said:
hi all
my gf just washed my gs2 in the washing machine
without telling me she wanted to turn on the phone but of course it doesn't work, hope it's going to work when it will dry...
i took of the battery, the sim card and the sd card, putted all of them in a bowl of uncooked rice over a heater
can someone tell me if i did something wrong? or if i have to do something else, don't want to loose my lovely gs2 :crying:
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first boot after, it worked for 10 sec but i think the battery is dead (i have a yellow triangle with the battery sign when i putted the charger)

Then try another battery, see if that works
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Isopropanol Alcohol, every time. If you have 100% then you can just dump the phone in the stuff for a wee while, it drives out all the water. Then leave the phone sitting somewhere warm for a couple hours to evaporate the iso, then there you go, should be fine!

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Then try another battery, see if that works
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this is what i will do, ordered a new battery, think tomorrow will have it
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Isopropanol Alcohol, every time. If you have 100% then you can just dump the phone in the stuff for a wee while, it drives out all the water. Then leave the phone sitting somewhere warm for a couple hours to evaporate the iso, then there you go, should be fine!
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thx

OnePlus One Is Waterproof - Discussion here

Hey everyone,
I was recently walking outside in the pouring rain with my OnePlus One. The crazy thing was that it was still functioning fine despite being practically hailed on. So I pulled out my M8 and decided to start recording. In this test I put the OnePlus One underwater multiple times and it came out fine each attempt. I didn't have any issues with the touch sensitivity, headphone jack, or even charging. It's pretty crazy quite honestly.

Thanks for providing this. I think you're a bit crazy considering people would kill for this phone, but it looks like it might have a nano coating like the moto G

Thanks for risking it.
Beyond that - how did you find the screen in the outdoors? Just respond instinctively (e.g. "rainbows directly into my eyes", "it was OK", "use only in caves - dark ones even for them")

a lot of modern phones can do this. the way they are built with low tolerances gives them some water resistance. but the oneplus is not waterproof, and it has no water resistance certification. so dont try this at home with your phone. you will probably mess something up and the phone can start to act weird days later. it is a testament to the build quality though.

@Nxxx,
getting interested about Speaker, is it working after such shower.?
what about earpiece.? OnePlus One detects earphones after this.?
etc. with such thing that are not visible at first glance or through video...(is it fully functional.? microphone.?)

i just wanted to add here. i got caught in a really bad thunderstorm last night while on my motorcycle with my opo in my jeans pocket. i rode for about 5 minutes in the worst thunderstorm i've ever ridden in, i was completely soaked and the opo got it as well. it was stil on and acting fine so i threw it under the seat and continued home and haven't shut the phone off yet and it's still fine.
i'd say the phone at least has a nano coating. i always worried about my nexus 5 because i knew this day would come at some point where i'd get stuck in a storm with my phone in my pocket and not be able to pull over. look slike the opo will do just fine.

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i just wanted to add here. i got caught in a really bad thunderstorm last night while on my motorcycle with my opo in my jeans pocket. i rode for about 5 minutes in the worst thunderstorm i've ever ridden in, i was completely soaked and the opo got it as well. it was stil on and acting fine so i threw it under the seat and continued home and haven't shut the phone off yet and it's still fine.
i'd say the phone at least has a nano coating. i always worried about my nexus 5 because i knew this day would come at some point where i'd get stuck in a storm with my phone in my pocket and not be able to pull over. look slike the opo will do just fine.
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I once used my Nexus5 for almost an hour in pure rain. It got so extremely wet, you can't imagine. I already thought I'd had to buy a new one. Nope. It's still working.
(Yes I had to stay in the rain. I was at the army there.)

I was taking a shot REALLY next to the water when a wave hit a half of my phone and it was underwater (but still in my hands) for less than a second. Nothing happened. I don't think it's waterproof, but somehow it resist
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I think it is waterproof but they just dont verified it by the IP, because it would increase the costs

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I think it is waterproof but they just dont verified it by the IP, because it would increase the costs
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do you think it is possible for someone to check for IP for a specific device (like me to check my phone for IP##).?
maybe someone would like to push his device for testing

Don't get your hopes up too high people,
Friend of mine actually broke his OPO this way after 2 days (biking in a heavy rain storm).
The speakers were completely soaked and couldn't play anything till they dried. Everything seemed fine after the phone dried but it couldn't charge any more thus rendering the phone useless.
So anyway be careful out there! You never know if your device is just as water resistant as in this video, my friend already had bad luck so don't jinx it haha.

Nxxx said:
Hey everyone,
I was recently walking outside in the pouring rain with my OnePlus One. The crazy thing was that it was still functioning fine despite being practically hailed on. So I pulled out my M8 and decided to start recording. In this test I put the OnePlus One underwater multiple times and it came out fine each attempt. I didn't have any issues with the touch sensitivity, headphone jack, or even charging. It's pretty crazy quite honestly.
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In my opinion you are only fortune, try a second time you will see that the OPO will die.
but do you usually walk on the streets without the shoes?? where do you live??

Consider this: you can have unprotected sex with someone who has herpes and not get it, but would you chance it? Didn't think so. It's not waterproof because it's not waterproof, you just got lucky.
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robstunner said:
Consider this: you can have unprotected sex with someone who has herpes and not get it, but would you chance it? Didn't think so. It's not waterproof because it's not waterproof, you just got lucky.
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Should have used AIDS as a comparison... Since Herpes won't kill you Hah.

_Beni_ said:
I think it is waterproof but they just dont verified it by the IP, because it would increase the costs
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can't be, all waterproof devices has rubber plugs on ports: audio, microusb, this doesn't.
here is a teardown for the OnePlus, doesn't seem to have rubber and protections against water in any part:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+One+Teardown/26484
notice that the microusb port give complete access to water to electronics inside, it is either luck for sometime (what happened an hour later? is the OPO still working?) or it was treated with waterproof material.
then compare it with the Galaxy S5, where you can easily see rubber protections around parts that reach to the outside, camera, back, etc:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S5+Teardown/24016

The correct term is water resistant, not proof. And I don't even believe it have water resistant nano coating until officially confirmed by OPO. And they would not neglect to advertise that feature if they spent money on it.

NO! this phone has no seals in it at all! you will kill your phone sooner or later. hell i had a s5 and still didnt put it under water. dont do it ppppppl

Hope your charging port doesn't corrode, especially since the opo doesn't have wireless charging... cool video though. Makes me feel like i dont have to baby my baby as much as i do!

I feel like the headline of this should be changed so that people who are just skimming the headlines won't get the wrong idea and drown their phones :/
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I agree the title is misleading. The phone is not water proof, there's no gasket on the back cover, no nano coating, and no port covers. It's just glass fused to the midframe with a tightly fit back which makes somewhat resistant to water, but there's no ingress protection so no dunking your phone.