Yes, it's true and I think it deserves its own thread.
Yesterday in one of the threads our XDA members started to discuss the possibility of a few htc one m9s having the version 2 of the snapdragons current flagship system-on-chip and it turned out that we do actually have two separate versions of snapdragon 810 on our m9s and we HTC haven't mentioned this anywhere.
They did lie when they told us that all the HTC One m9s have Gorilla Glass 4 but it turned out only few units had Gorilla Glass 4 while others had Gorilla Glass 3.
They lied again with the HTC One a9 and they said it has Gorilla Glass 4 while all of the units had Gorilla Glass 3, it seems like to have a history of serial lying.
I will surfing anandtech and I came across a very interesting point.
"Meanwhile there were rumors floating around of a new revision due to show up in the summer, and it appears that this is the rumored revision. This leads me to question whether it made sense to release devices with the v2 revision, especially if future revisions would have resolved some notable issues and dramatically improved SoC performance. I also question whether OEMs would silently introduce these SoCs into later production runs of products that first shipped with v2, which is yet another can of worms."
I would be pissed if I had 810 v2.0.
Here is how you check yours.
Download Antutu 6.
Go to "info" and look at the display stats. It would tell you your GPU frequency which would be either 630 or 600 for v2.1 and v2.0 respectively.
Saad Ali said:
Yes, it's true and I think it deserves its own thread.
Yesterday in one of the threads our XDA members started to discuss the possibility of a few htc one m9s having the version 2 of the snapdragons current flagship system-on-chip and it turned out that we do actually have two separate versions of snapdragon 810 on our m9s and we HTC haven't mentioned this anywhere.
They did lie when they told us that all the HTC One m9s have Gorilla Glass 4 but it turned out only few units had Gorilla Glass 4 while others had Gorilla Glass 3.
They lied again with the HTC One a9 and they said it has Gorilla Glass 4 while all of the units had Gorilla Glass 3, it seems like to have a history of serial lying.
I will surfing anandtech and I came across a very interesting point.
"Meanwhile there were rumors floating around of a new revision due to show up in the summer, and it appears that this is the rumored revision. This leads me to question whether it made sense to release devices with the v2 revision, especially if future revisions would have resolved some notable issues and dramatically improved SoC performance. I also question whether OEMs would silently introduce these SoCs into later production runs of products that first shipped with v2, which is yet another can of worms."
I would be pissed if I had 810 v2.0.
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I don't understand how you can say "HTC lied to us" when they never formally said the m9 would ship with a specific version of the 810 chipset. All they said was that the m9 uses a snapdragon m9 in its hardware. Even if they did later user revision 2.1 they never lied about using the 810 in their phones.
Also about the gorilla glass, unless you can prove that an m9 or a9 had a different version of gorilla glass then listed, i would take your accusation with a grain of salt. You must have proof (which would be hard to prove, drop tests won't work as either version can shatter) so unless you can show us a m9 or a9 oem screen with gg3 you point is invalid
Rapazzo said:
I don't understand how you can say "HTC lied to us" when they never formally said the m9 would ship with a specific version of the 810 chipset. All they said was that the m9 uses a snapdragon m9 in its hardware. Even if they did later user revision 2.1 they never lied about using the 810 in their phones.
Also about the gorilla glass, unless you can prove that an m9 or a9 had a different version of gorilla glass then listed, i would take your accusation with a grain of salt. You must have proof (which would be hard to prove, drop tests won't work as either version can shatter) so unless you can show us a m9 or a9 oem screen with gg3 you point is invalid
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I said they've lied to us with their gg claims, which is true. The official gg site says a9 has gg 3 while they told us it has gg 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-a9/general/a9-gorilla-glass-3-4-t3257199
They said mentioned that m9 has gg4 but didn't tell us that most of the units have gg3. I take it as misleading your customers.
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/208...have-gorilla-glass-3-and-not-gorilla-glass-4/
With regards to sd810. They have also claimed that htc one m9 uses v2.1. But many people have confirmed they have v2.0 on their phones. You can check if your GPU frequency is 600 or 630mhz(v2 & v2.1 respectively).
Well....
My CPU is 630....got this phone unlocked from Europe...so maybe I have gg4 as well ??
No way to tell on glass I suppose....g
If your phone S-off, in download mode/info you will see rev of CPU. I and my mom have two M9 with rev 2.1
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If your phone S-off, in download mode/info you will see rev of CPU. I and my mom have two M9 with rev 2.1
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Is there an app that does that?
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Damn I'm thinking on swapping my s6 for a m9 but in light of this and fact that we won't know which version we get idk anymore
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Is there an app that does that?
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Damn I'm thinking on swapping my s6 for a m9 but in light of this and fact that we won't know which version we get idk anymore
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Turn off power saving and run CPU-Z to show GPU rendered. Rev 2.0 is 600mhz and rev 2.1 is 630mhz.
Btw there is no app show exactly which rev of cpu
hoaisonongame said:
Turn off power saving and run CPU-Z to show GPU rendered. Rev 2.0 is 600mhz and rev 2.1 is 630mhz.
Btw there is no app show exactly which rev of cpu
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You can see revision via this shell command
Code:
adb shell
su
cat /sys/bus/soc/devices/soc0/revision
Mine shows 2.1
I have rev 2.1 and 630mhz gpu
anyway, htc had lot of troubles because of this cpu, I think it ruined this flagship which is definitely not bad as everyone thinks.
seriously anyone who I tell I have m9 instantly gives me jokes like "ah and does it fry eggs?" "do you keep your hands warm with it?"
my answers are always "no you are wrong as everyone. this is not as hot as you read everywhere" but bad advertise is made, and I think that some misunderstanding could have been made because of very difficult position of htc on this phone. for me the phone is ok. also glass is perfect, whatever version it is (and I never read about m9 having gg4, always known about 3)
If I remember correctly - we all got 2.0 at least with a firmware update...
hoaisonongame said:
Turn off power saving and run CPU-Z to show GPU rendered. Rev 2.0 is 600mhz and rev 2.1 is 630mhz.
Btw there is no app show exactly which rev of cpu
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Antutu 6 does tell you the CPU rev as well.
Every M9 with firmware 1.32.x uses SD810 v2 and during the 2.x update it gets upgraded to v2.1. The two versions don't differ in their hardware but they use different drivers. If you don't believe what I say then get S-OFF, downgrade to the oldest firmware for your SKU and look at the System Info menu in Download Mode. Afterwards update to the latest firmware and look at the System Info, again.
Jeff Gordon's (Senior Global Online Communications Manager at HTC Corp.) 2 cents to this topic
Saad Ali said:
Yes, it's true and I think it deserves its own thread.
Yesterday in one of the threads our XDA members started to discuss the possibility of a few htc one m9s having the version 2 of the snapdragons current flagship system-on-chip and it turned out that we do actually have two separate versions of snapdragon 810 on our m9s and we HTC haven't mentioned this anywhere.
They did lie when they told us that all the HTC One m9s have Gorilla Glass 4 but it turned out only few units had Gorilla Glass 4 while others had Gorilla Glass 3.
They lied again with the HTC One a9 and they said it has Gorilla Glass 4 while all of the units had Gorilla Glass 3, it seems like to have a history of serial lying.
I will surfing anandtech and I came across a very interesting point.
"Meanwhile there were rumors floating around of a new revision due to show up in the summer, and it appears that this is the rumored revision. This leads me to question whether it made sense to release devices with the v2 revision, especially if future revisions would have resolved some notable issues and dramatically improved SoC performance. I also question whether OEMs would silently introduce these SoCs into later production runs of products that first shipped with v2, which is yet another can of worms."
I would be pissed if I had 810 v2.0.
Here is how you check yours.
Download Antutu 6.
Go to "info" and look at the display stats. It would tell you your GPU frequency which would be either 630 or 600 for v2.1 and v2.0 respectively.
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This is most weird in my case... Antitumor says gpu 180-630 my, while cpu says [email protected] 600mhz. I however don't have root to check the revision in sys.
And to be honest, the phone gets really warm and has rather bad battery life in my opinion (at least compared to my LG g2 for instance). Btw htc stated in July explicitly that, all of the m9 use v2. 1, which I honestly doubt is the case. Probably the first batches are v2. 0... Bad luck for me cuz I bought a used one (rather cheap), that was bought in April...
Flippy498 said:
Every M9 with firmware 1.32.x uses SD810 v2 and during the 2.x update it gets upgraded to v2.1. The two versions don't differ in their hardware but they use different drivers. If you don't believe what I say then get S-OFF, downgrade to the oldest firmware for your SKU and look at the System Info menu in Download Mode. Afterwards update to the latest firmware and look at the System Info, again.
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It's true. This revision is SW only. It was confirmed by tests long time ago.
I have no idea why OP is seeking for conspiracy theories.
Case is straight. CPU is firmware controled. Firmware is upgrading along with HTC sw updates. There is no HW diffrences for cpu rev.
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Exactly what i found out too.
The SOC Revision is based on Firmware Updates.
Only thing what is still in the Open : Why have some a Adreno [email protected] (Two friend of mine as example) and others like me [email protected] (With Marshmellow) . And thats Hardcoded.
kaliberx said:
Exactly what i found out too.
The SOC Revision is based on Firmware Updates.
Only thing what is still in the Open : Why have some a Adreno [email protected] (Two friend of mine as example) and others like me [email protected] (With Marshmellow) . And thats Hardcoded.
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Maybe CID based firmware differences? Another factory? Diferent PCB revision or related to other display panel.
guys, as far as I remember qualcomm itself said that 810 problems would have been solved in 6 months after m9 came out....I always knew that it was going to be solved via sw update...keep calm, htc for me is one of the most trustable companies out there...
throcker said:
guys, as far as I remember qualcomm itself said that 810 problems would have been solved in 6 months after m9 came out....I always knew that it was going to be solved via sw update...keep calm, htc for me is one of the most trustable companies out there...
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I want one
throcker said:
guys, as far as I remember qualcomm itself said that 810 problems would have been solved in 6 months after m9 came out....I always knew that it was going to be solved via sw update...keep calm, htc for me is one of the most trustable companies out there...
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What trust Europe Version didn't have an update since July last year we only just got MM They can't even support a flagship...
European versions are still lucky compared to us who have the hk version... We are one of the last if not the last to receive the 5.1update... So I don't expect to receive the 6.0update till midyear2016... =)
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Related
http://bit.ly/eeScIk
According to AndroidSpin, 2.3 has a required 1 GHZ processor needed. So does that mean the G2 won't be getting an official 2.3 update from HTC???
What do you think? Will HTC overclock the processor to run 2.3? Or will the G2 and Desire Z just not get 2.3?
This has been posted here numerous times and this is false g2 will be getting the 2.3 update..
Your phone's os was made by google. Not using it to search for this question is a sin.
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Its a rumor that has been going around for a long time that has been disproved. The G2 will get the 2.3 update officially its just a question of when not if.
Okawa said:
Its a rumor that has been going around for a long time that has been disproved. The G2 will get the 2.3 update officially its just a question of when not if.
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O really? HTC disproved it? Does any one have a link to the official statement by HTC that says G2 and Desire Z will be getting 2.3. Because that article is brand new sayign 2.3 requires 1 GHZ
follow the sources to the original article on techradar. read the last two lines.
As I recall everyone said the same about 2.1 and 2.2 and we see how that played out! Just cool it, even if it isn't official for the G2 you can count on a dev making a build for it!
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I read that article like this
"we at LG do not wish to support our hardware, so we will come up with some bull crap excuse why we won't be putting out an update, in hopes that you will go out and buy a new phone"
2.3 isn't a huge change, and it is running on the Eris right now, not really the worlds most powerful phone...
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
Whosdaman said:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
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the droid eris (htc hero...) just got a ported 2.3 done... and that phone was the 2nd or 3rd android phone on the market.... im sure the G2 will be fine and dandy. The G2 blows the N1 out of the water (i have both) and if the N1 can get it, why wouldnt the G2?
minotauri said:
the droid eris (htc hero...) just got a ported 2.3 done... and that phone was the 2nd or 3rd android phone on the market.... im sure the G2 will be fine and dandy. The G2 blows the N1 out of the water (i have both) and if the N1 can get it, why wouldnt the G2?
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Official update, not custom ROMs.
Another article that even links to TechRadar: http://www.talkandroid.com/23041-so...cpu-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-85181
Whosdaman said:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
How about when Samsung said the SGS phones would be getting 2.2 before December?
Or how about when Apple said the iPhone didn't have an antenna problem and people were making it up?
Did you believe it when a random tech blog reported that the G2 would be released in early September?
Eh?
How about when Google themselves confirmed that the 1GHz requirement is not true? Do you believe that?
Ok but, and stick with me.... this phone has a 800mhz processor but it scores higher than any of the 1mhz phones out there, and is because is of a new generation, so it outperforms them, consequently... this phone is gonna get gingerbread because at the end the g2 processor might have less mhz but it outperforms a higher mhz processor.
if you know about computers, is like having a amd phenom quad core at 3.5 and a intel i7 quadcore also rated at 2.7... the intel will outperform the amd.... does anyone gets what I'm trying to say?
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xencor said:
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
How about when Samsung said the SGS phones would be getting 2.2 before December?
Or how about when Apple said the iPhone didn't have an antenna problem and people were making it up?
Did you believe it when a random tech blog reported that the G2 would be released in early September?
Eh?
How about when Google themselves confirmed that the 1GHz requirement is not true? Do you believe that?
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Do you not believe anything on the internet?
The above statement is very ignorant and assumes everyone on the internet lies and that means Google themselves cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their own product.
And I'm just putting it out there that LG says it's phone that are below 1 GHZ won't be receiving 2.3 because it doesnt meet the requirements. So HTC is just going to break the requirement while leaving the g2 as 800 mhz?
Whosdaman said:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
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First this is just LG NOT GOOGLE, second the people that answer questions on Facebook are just PR people not actual techs. Tell you come with harder proof then a single PR person from a random phone manufacturer that only really deals in low end phones this is still just part of the rumor that was fronted on some Russian forum.
Just search the forums you will see people claiming that its been required forever but have all came back around to the orginal source and its not even from google.
Okawa said:
First this is just LG NOT GOOGLE, second the people that answer questions on Facebook are just PR people not actual techs. Tell you come with harder proof then a single PR person from a random phone manufacturer that only really deals in low end phones this is still just part of the rumor that was fronted on some Russian forum.
Just search the forums you will see people claiming that its been required forever but have all came back around to the orginal source and its not even from google.
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Whoops, I forgot that LG is some random phone manufacture now.
I guess HTC and Samsung are just random too?
If anything I would guess its less about processer power and more about GPU power...
Whosdaman said:
Do you not believe anything on the internet?
The above statement is very ignorant and assumes everyone on the internet lies and that means Google themselves cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their own product.
And I'm just putting it out there that LG says it's phone that are below 1 GHZ won't be receiving 2.3 because it doesnt meet the requirements. So HTC is just going to break the requirement while leaving the g2 as 800 mhz?
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what do you not understand that there is no requirement?
Stop being lazy and go do some google searches. Just because some LG marketing intern says something stupid via facebook doesn't mean it's uniform policy for all manufacturers.
This is a rumor that has been debunked many times. Stop bringing it back up and go do your research.
Whosdaman said:
Whoops, I forgot that LG is some random phone manufacture now.
I guess HTC and Samsung are just random too?
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Correct, tell Google says its a requirement its not a requirement!
If HTC, LG, Samsung, or Motorola dont want to put it on any device below 1ghz thats on them but its not a requirement from Google just a requirement from the phone manufacture.
I hope you understand the difference.
xencor said:
what do you not understand that there is no requirement?
Stop being lazy and go do some google searches. Just because some LG marketing intern says something stupid via facebook doesn't mean it's uniform policy for all manufacturers.
This is a rumor that has been debunked many times. Stop bringing it back up and go do your research.
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Do my research? The writers do the research for me. Those 3 articles are brand new. Not 3 months old. And so far you guys have no proof of your claims.
Do you guys have any evidence?
I found it on their facebook profile in discussions tab. Heres the thread where they post it.
Italian Milestone 2 (just come on the market, with many months of delay) has 2.2.2 version.
I think it's the update we're waiting
My UK version has 2.2.
In a thread where I posted some bugs with this ROM, they also confirmed an update is on it's way. I however refuse to believe it will be 2.3. More like 2.2.3 with the keyboard fixed and mp3 cracking problem fixed.
Discussion not available...!?
I do expect some updates for my Motorola Milestone 2, too!
It's okay to not treat my M2 like a flagship but still, some updates for a brand new electronic device is obligatory nowadays!
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Discussion not available...!?
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They have some problems with discussions tab from a few days. Must wait.
w0ndersp00n said:
My UK version has 2.2.
In a thread where I posted some bugs with this ROM, they also confirmed an update is on it's way. I however refuse to believe it will be 2.3. More like 2.2.3 with the keyboard fixed and mp3 cracking problem fixed.
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Maybe I am writing about your thread but now there is something broken down on their FB profile
official Milestone 2 ITA
android version: 2.2.2
build: MILS2_U6_2.4.24
fixed euro button and (maybe) mp3 problem
[cut]
all this by a guy who just bought the M2 with this build in Italy
mkmck said:
Maybe I am writing about your thread but now there is something broken down on their FB profile
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An update is confirmed, just no schedule. But I guess we can wait... At least I can.
Can't someone try to get an SBF from this 2.4.24 ?
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Can't someone try to get an SBF from this 2.4.24 ?
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I don't think an SBF will leak.
A Nandroid backup however, would be realistic.
does anybody know if this update would apply for phones in Asia/Asia-Pac?
its such a pity that such a stellar phone is let down by poor update schedules from the manufacturers.
agent008my said:
does anybody know if this update would apply for phones in Asia/Asia-Pac?
its such a pity that such a stellar phone is let down by poor update schedules from the manufacturers.
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Nope, in this post (Chinese) :
goo.gl/EnFfO
Hongkong Manager of Motorola said that Milestone 2 will not upgrade to 2.3 in Asia/Asia-Pac,
In P.R.China, even the version of Official Moto SBFs are MLS2GC_U6_2.5.0_SIGNED or some above 2.2, actually, they are still Android 2.2.
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Nope, in this post (Chinese) :
goo.gl/EnFfO
Hongkong Manager of Motorola said that Milestone 2 will not upgrade to 2.3 in Asia/Asia-Pac,
In P.R.China, even the version of Official Moto SBFs are MLS2GC_U6_2.5.0_SIGNED or some above 2.2, actually, they are still Android 2.2.
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oh man, thats messed up. and just when i thought sony ericsson was bad with upgrading their software, they proved the world wrong. Motorola has to buck up if they wanna maintain a customer base outside of the US-Verizon market
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oh man, thats messed up. and just when i thought sony ericsson was bad with upgrading their software, they proved the world wrong. Motorola has to buck up if they wanna maintain a customer base outside of the US-Verizon market
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I agree fully with you. My prev. phone is a Sony-Ericsson one ( C702c ), and, they never fixed any bug in next three years after the phone release. Maybe Motorola will upgrade MS2 to Android 2.4 or some version later, but locking BootLoader is quite unwise, they should leave the choice to customer.
Sorry for my poor English.
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I agree fully with you. My prev. phone is a Sony-Ericsson one ( C702c ), and, they never fixed any bug in next three years after the phone release. Maybe Motorola will upgrade MS2 to Android 2.4 or some version later, but locking BootLoader is quite unwise, they should leave the choice to customer.
Sorry for my poor English.
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my previous phone was an X1, and they only launched a ROM update with bug fixes and slightly better performance (still on WM6.1 though) a year after the phone was launched. sadly though back then, there wasnt much competition, nor were there many phones with a slide out QWERTY, and the X1 had the market dominance esp with its good looks and superior hardware. times changed though, and right now the MS2 is lagging behind its main competitor.
what i hear is the MS2's main competitor, the Desire Z is getting a 2.3 update within this quarter of the year. makes me kinda regret getting this. so what if the desire Z has a slower processor, at least they r updating its software diligently. hats off to HTC for that. Thing is upgrading to 2.3 is one thing, the least they can do is fix the known bugs.
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Thing is upgrading to 2.3 is one thing, the least they can do is fix the known bugs.
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QFT! I do not understand why the bug fixes have not been pushed out. The mods on the support forum have mentioned having newer firmware than retail, so I assume they have made some fixes, and there is this newer Italian firmware that has fixes too.
The worst part of it is being left in the dark.
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my previous phone was an X1, and they only launched a ROM update with bug fixes and slightly better performance (still on WM6.1 though) a year after the phone was launched. sadly though back then, there wasnt much competition, nor were there many phones with a slide out QWERTY, and the X1 had the market dominance esp with its good looks and superior hardware. times changed though, and right now the MS2 is lagging behind its main competitor.
what i hear is the MS2's main competitor, the Desire Z is getting a 2.3 update within this quarter of the year. makes me kinda regret getting this. so what if the desire Z has a slower processor, at least they r updating its software diligently. hats off to HTC for that. Thing is upgrading to 2.3 is one thing, the least they can do is fix the known bugs.
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Desire Z's processor is slower than Milestone 2, but Motorola just OVERCLOCKED OMAP3630, its design frequency is 720MHz, Motorola sales it as 1Ghz in MS2, and, motorola Droid 2 Global's CPU runs on 1.2Ghz for retail when OMAP3640's design freq. is 1Ghz. Besides, Adreno205(41M Polys/s & 245M Pix/s) in Desire Z is more powerful than SGX530 (14M Polys/s & ?M Pix/s), means Desire Z has a greater graphic performance.
At least, HTC never locks BootLoader.
Forget it, maybe my next device is not a motorola one, but I'm enjoying MS2 now.
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Desire Z's processor is slower than Milestone 2, but Motorola just OVERCLOCKED OMAP3630, its design frequency is 720MHz, Motorola sales it as 1Ghz in MS2, and, motorola D2G's CPU runs on 1.2Ghz for retail when OMAP3640's design freq. is 1Ghz. Besides, Adreno205 in Desire Z is more powerful than SGX530, means Desire Z has a greater graphic performance than MS2.
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The OMAP3630 is designed for 1GHz. It's the OMAP 3620 that is designed for 720MHz.
The Adreno 205 is indeed more powerful according to benchmarks, but I think you should consider the detail that Motorolo's handsets use a higher resolution than most other devices (just by 54x480 pixels, but still).
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At least, HTC never locks BootLoader.
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Not true. Recent HTC devices have the bootloader locked.
Old Android devices from HTC are also locked AFAIK, but not with such high encryption as used by Motorola...
The OMAP3630 is designed for 1GHz. It's the OMAP 3620 that is designed for 720MHz.
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I was really confused, I saw the data at wikipedia like this in early 2011:
Handset channels:
OMAP3640 - 1 GHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)+IVA 2+ hardware accelerator
OMAP3630 - 720 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)+IVA 2+ hardware accelerator
OMAP3620 - 720 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)+IVA 2+ hardware accelerator
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You can also found it on Wikipedia history pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Instruments_OMAP&oldid=406270321
Actually, I learned this in most sites in Chinese said 3630 designed for 720Mhz at first. But current page of Texas Instruments OMAP on Wikipedia said 3630 designed for 1Ghz and 3640 designed for 1.2Ghz. And, http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP just described like wiki English before.
I can't found any frequency data on TI official site. Anyone have ideas on this?
The Adreno 205 is indeed more powerful according to benchmarks, but I think you should consider the detail that Motorolo's handsets use a higher resolution than most other devices (just by 54x480 pixels, but still).
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But the Adreno 205 is really powerful than SGX530, even consider the resolution issue.
Not true. Recent HTC devices have the bootloader locked.
Old Android devices from HTC are also locked AFAIK, but not with such high encryption as used by Motorola...
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Thanks for your notice, I don't know this before.
http://focus.ti.com/pr/docs/preldetail.tsp?sectionId=594&prelId=sc09020
waigx u have right ... ;-)
Edit: This is apparently all incorrect...whatever, my bad.
Anyways, everyone probably heard about the post from Samsung Estonia saying the processor is being upgraded to 1.2GHz.
But now, Samsung Mobile India tweeted this:
“Due to delay in the global launch of SGS2 the device won’t be launched before June. And, it’s not just India but its delayed all over.”
So, there you have it. I also read somewhere that it's confirmed to have the faster Tegra 2 processor now. I can't show the source, as I don't remember where I saw it.
(Source): http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/news-gadgets/samsung-galaxy-s2-release-date-pushed-7510/
this refers to the old tweet that samsung korea (@samsungtomorrow) said was false. gforgames is a little late in their reporting
My suggestion would be to read through some of the lengthy threads to catch up on whats happening.
Secondly... RENAME THIE TITLE... before you give some of our members a heart attack AGAIN!.
apwhitelaw said:
Didn't see this posted yet, so I decided to post it. Yes I meant to say again twice, because it's true. It's again being delayed again. If you don't understand what I mean, well I'm just saying it keeps getting delayed.
Anyways, everyone probably heard about the post from Samsung Estonia saying the processor is being upgraded to 1.2GHz.
But now, Samsung Mobile India tweeted this:
“Due to delay in the global launch of SGS2 the device won’t be launched before June. And, it’s not just India but its delayed all over.”
So, there you have it. I also read somewhere that it's confirmed to have the faster Tegra 2 processor now. I can't show the source, as I don't remember where I saw it.
(Source): http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/news-gadgets/samsung-galaxy-s2-release-date-pushed-7510/
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You need to catch up on your information my dude. Exynos is now top dog, not Tegra 2. The firmware just wasn't finalized, that's all.
Yeah I know they're a little late with their info but still I was seeing this at other sites too. But whatever, my bad.
Oh, and I changed the title.
Thanks for changing the title
Exynos is showing promising results, it is now scaled up to 1.2 Ghz, the Ram seems to remain at 1GB, the Size remains to be 16 or 32 GB, the battery and all specs remains the same. The only thing in question is which Firmware will it come preinstalled with.
dhruvmalik said:
Thanks for changing the title
Exynos is showing promising results, it is now scaled up to 1.2 Ghz, the Ram seems to remain at 1GB, the Size remains to be 16 or 32 GB, the battery and all specs remains the same. The only thing in question is which Firmware will it come preinstalled with.
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Around 0:20 (IT'S 2.3.3! )
Yes, I have seen that but perhaps Samsung is cooking up to something for Ice Cream... Just a thought
ice cream wont be released for another 2 months...
Well, then lets just get the damn SGS II without it and look to the future for improvements... Otherwise there is always XDA Devs to fill in the gaps where Samsung left off.
If Samsung was cooking up Ice Cream behind the scenes, that would be freaking AMAZING. There's already enough for this to be the #1 phone I want, but Ice Cream would be so great. Considering what happened from previous Galaxy S devices, this should get an update for Ice Cream...but who knows when.
Which CPU does the Note 3 use? Please enlighten me
MSM8974 or MSM8974AB?
MSM8974: Adreno 330 @ 450Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 800Mhz
MSM8974AB: Adreno 330 @ 550Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 933Mhz
Most likely the 8974, only the meizu mx3 will have the AB version check anandtech.com that'll have all the info on the Soc. It does however have a low power radio which should save battery.
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That's an interesting question. If there's a "better" S-800 it would be odd that with Samsung's purchasing power with Qualcomm that they wouldn't use it in their flagship and allow a Chinese upstart to tout a more powerful phone. The S-600 Samsung used in the SGS4 was "AB" so let's hope the S-800 in the N3 is also. We'll find out when Anandtech does their testing. This is from their review of the SGS4...
That brings us to the Galaxy S 4. It's immediately apparent that something is different here because Samsung is shipping the Snapdragon 600 at a higher frequency than any other OEM. The Krait 300 cores in SGS4 can run at up to 1.9GHz vs. 1.7GHz for everyone else. Curiously enough, 1.9GHz is the max frequency that Qualcomm mentioned when it first announced Snapdragon 600.
Samsung is obviously a very large customer, so at first glance we assumed it could simply demand a better bin of Snapdragon 600 than its lower volume competitors. Looking a bit deeper however, we see that the Galaxy S 4 uses something different entirely.
Digging through the Galaxy S 4 kernel source we see references to an APQ8064AB part. As a recap, APQ8064 was the first quad-core Krait 200 SoC with no integrated modem, more commonly referred to as Snapdragon S4 Pro. APQ8064T was supposed to be its higher clocked/Krait 300 based successor that ended up with the marketing name Snapdragon 600. APQ8064AB however is, at this point, unique to the Galaxy S 4 but still carries the Snapdragon 600 marketing name.
If we had to guess, we might be looking at an actual respin of the APQ8064 silicon in APQ8064AB. Assuming Qualcomm isn't playing any funny games here, APQ8064AB may simply be a respin capable of hitting higher frequencies. We'll have to keep a close eye on this going forward, but it's clear to me that the Galaxy S 4 is shipping with something different than everyone else who has a Snapdragon 600 at this point.
The one I played with had the AB S800.
Fingers crossed!
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The one I played with had the AB S800.
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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He later said this:
Actually I looked into this some more - the network guy I was in contact with said it was the AB binning as it was clocked at 2.3Ghz. I took that as read and hence posted that information here, however I see even at the 2.3Ghz clockspeed it looks like there are two binnings for the GPU speed. Bottom line I can't categorically state this is AB bin, my apologies for that - OP updated.
Here is what the Voodoo Report says, as you can see it depends on whether the 0007 revision corresponds to the AB bin:
Hardware : Qualcomm MSM 8974 (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision : 0007
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The table in the referenced Anandtech article shows the CPU of the MSM8974AB as being 100MHz faster. It shows the MSM8974 at 2.2GHz, and the MSM8974AB at 2.3. Given this, I would assume that the note would have the MSM8974AB processor.
edit: Just checked the specs on the G2 and Z1. Those phones list their CPU speeds at 2260 MHz and 2200MHz respectively and both of them have the S800. Samsung lists the Note 3's CPU at 2.3GHz.
Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
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The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
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I agree, but Samsung may not want to advertise the S800 SoC too much, because if they say "the S800AB has incredible GPU!" then the Exynos markets would be Plus, Exynos is samsung's SoC brand, and I'm sure they'd rather promote their product over qualcomm's.
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
eustilou said:
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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Maybe Qualcomm can't make that many?
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servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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eustilou said:
This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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Now it's starting to make sense. Thanks for posting this. i found an article somewhere on google that talked about how all Chinese Note 3's would come with the AB variant, but that clearly cannot be the case...still sucks. I am on tmobile so im stuck with the s800 variant. i kind of wish I could get the octo core variant, but i know i wont get LTE and i'm not sure if i would get HSPA+. I've got a preorder in for the note 3 but I'm considering waiting for the new nexus phone. Choices choices....
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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because Note 3 is much expensive in china, not many people will buy it
and xiaomi has much lower price point at 1999 RMB
also xiaomi has Tegra 4 version this year
so Qualcomm feels NVIDIA will take over the partnership with xiaomi
if they do not offer something real good soc
also Qualcomm is one of the investor of xiaomi
techinsights.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3
I don't know if the site is reliable or not. But it seems that their tear down reveal that sm n9005 is using the AB chip.
Sorry that I can't post links as I am new. but please do take a look!
http://www.sogi.com.tw/articles/htc_one_m9_plus_m9px/6242995
New model number (M9px)
No more Duo Camera
New camera module with laser focus.
Wow, sounds great. Still MTK?
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Wow, sounds great. Still MTK?
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Removing my reply, I only found an old page, so there's no information I know of yet if it's going to be MTK
According the the certification application to Taiwan NCC, other than the camera and laser module, it's the same as rev. 1. I would think that means the SoC is still Mediatek.
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According the the certification application to Taiwan NCC, other than the camera and laser module, it's the same as rev. 1. I would think that means the SoC is still Mediatek.
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Yeah, I read speculation it's going to be MTK. I wonder when it's going to be available in Taiwan, and how it's laser focus makes it really better
Geee, I plan to get the M9+ very soon. With this new version of M9+, should I wait for its release to see the difference before making decision?!
I believe it's worth waiting anyway, especially if you haven't yet bought it.
Just wait and see reviews on the new one.
Can't find it anywhere yet,I wonder if it's to be separately released or they simply will start to ship the new one instead of the duo camera version
http://www.phonedog.com/2015/09/29/htc-one-m9-supreme-camera-edition-has-three-flavors-autofocus
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