2.3 1 ghz Requirement - G2 and Desire Z General

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According to AndroidSpin, 2.3 has a required 1 GHZ processor needed. So does that mean the G2 won't be getting an official 2.3 update from HTC???
What do you think? Will HTC overclock the processor to run 2.3? Or will the G2 and Desire Z just not get 2.3?

This has been posted here numerous times and this is false g2 will be getting the 2.3 update..

Your phone's os was made by google. Not using it to search for this question is a sin.
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Its a rumor that has been going around for a long time that has been disproved. The G2 will get the 2.3 update officially its just a question of when not if.

Okawa said:
Its a rumor that has been going around for a long time that has been disproved. The G2 will get the 2.3 update officially its just a question of when not if.
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O really? HTC disproved it? Does any one have a link to the official statement by HTC that says G2 and Desire Z will be getting 2.3. Because that article is brand new sayign 2.3 requires 1 GHZ

follow the sources to the original article on techradar. read the last two lines.

As I recall everyone said the same about 2.1 and 2.2 and we see how that played out! Just cool it, even if it isn't official for the G2 you can count on a dev making a build for it!
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I read that article like this
"we at LG do not wish to support our hardware, so we will come up with some bull crap excuse why we won't be putting out an update, in hopes that you will go out and buy a new phone"
2.3 isn't a huge change, and it is running on the Eris right now, not really the worlds most powerful phone...

http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3

Whosdaman said:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
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the droid eris (htc hero...) just got a ported 2.3 done... and that phone was the 2nd or 3rd android phone on the market.... im sure the G2 will be fine and dandy. The G2 blows the N1 out of the water (i have both) and if the N1 can get it, why wouldnt the G2?

minotauri said:
the droid eris (htc hero...) just got a ported 2.3 done... and that phone was the 2nd or 3rd android phone on the market.... im sure the G2 will be fine and dandy. The G2 blows the N1 out of the water (i have both) and if the N1 can get it, why wouldnt the G2?
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Official update, not custom ROMs.
Another article that even links to TechRadar: http://www.talkandroid.com/23041-so...cpu-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-85181

Whosdaman said:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
How about when Samsung said the SGS phones would be getting 2.2 before December?
Or how about when Apple said the iPhone didn't have an antenna problem and people were making it up?
Did you believe it when a random tech blog reported that the G2 would be released in early September?
Eh?
How about when Google themselves confirmed that the 1GHz requirement is not true? Do you believe that?

Ok but, and stick with me.... this phone has a 800mhz processor but it scores higher than any of the 1mhz phones out there, and is because is of a new generation, so it outperforms them, consequently... this phone is gonna get gingerbread because at the end the g2 processor might have less mhz but it outperforms a higher mhz processor.
if you know about computers, is like having a amd phenom quad core at 3.5 and a intel i7 quadcore also rated at 2.7... the intel will outperform the amd.... does anyone gets what I'm trying to say?
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xencor said:
Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
How about when Samsung said the SGS phones would be getting 2.2 before December?
Or how about when Apple said the iPhone didn't have an antenna problem and people were making it up?
Did you believe it when a random tech blog reported that the G2 would be released in early September?
Eh?
How about when Google themselves confirmed that the 1GHz requirement is not true? Do you believe that?
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Do you not believe anything on the internet?
The above statement is very ignorant and assumes everyone on the internet lies and that means Google themselves cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their own product.
And I'm just putting it out there that LG says it's phone that are below 1 GHZ won't be receiving 2.3 because it doesnt meet the requirements. So HTC is just going to break the requirement while leaving the g2 as 800 mhz?

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http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/doe...es/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I don't have to search. LG just confirmed that Gingerbread will require 1 GHZ processor. So once again, I don't think the G2 will be getting official 2.3
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First this is just LG NOT GOOGLE, second the people that answer questions on Facebook are just PR people not actual techs. Tell you come with harder proof then a single PR person from a random phone manufacturer that only really deals in low end phones this is still just part of the rumor that was fronted on some Russian forum.
Just search the forums you will see people claiming that its been required forever but have all came back around to the orginal source and its not even from google.

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First this is just LG NOT GOOGLE, second the people that answer questions on Facebook are just PR people not actual techs. Tell you come with harder proof then a single PR person from a random phone manufacturer that only really deals in low end phones this is still just part of the rumor that was fronted on some Russian forum.
Just search the forums you will see people claiming that its been required forever but have all came back around to the orginal source and its not even from google.
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Whoops, I forgot that LG is some random phone manufacture now.
I guess HTC and Samsung are just random too?

If anything I would guess its less about processer power and more about GPU power...

Whosdaman said:
Do you not believe anything on the internet?
The above statement is very ignorant and assumes everyone on the internet lies and that means Google themselves cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their own product.
And I'm just putting it out there that LG says it's phone that are below 1 GHZ won't be receiving 2.3 because it doesnt meet the requirements. So HTC is just going to break the requirement while leaving the g2 as 800 mhz?
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what do you not understand that there is no requirement?
Stop being lazy and go do some google searches. Just because some LG marketing intern says something stupid via facebook doesn't mean it's uniform policy for all manufacturers.
This is a rumor that has been debunked many times. Stop bringing it back up and go do your research.

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Whoops, I forgot that LG is some random phone manufacture now.
I guess HTC and Samsung are just random too?
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Correct, tell Google says its a requirement its not a requirement!
If HTC, LG, Samsung, or Motorola dont want to put it on any device below 1ghz thats on them but its not a requirement from Google just a requirement from the phone manufacture.
I hope you understand the difference.

xencor said:
what do you not understand that there is no requirement?
Stop being lazy and go do some google searches. Just because some LG marketing intern says something stupid via facebook doesn't mean it's uniform policy for all manufacturers.
This is a rumor that has been debunked many times. Stop bringing it back up and go do your research.
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Do my research? The writers do the research for me. Those 3 articles are brand new. Not 3 months old. And so far you guys have no proof of your claims.
Do you guys have any evidence?

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[Q] Android 2.3 How Long Will It Take HTC ?

With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
themonkster said:
With Android 2.3 Gingerbread due out before the end of the year. How long do you think it will take HTC to push out the upgrade ?
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
The new Samsung is rumored to be running 2.3 out of the box.
Whats your thoughts ?
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2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire.. that new samsung is AOSP based isnt it.. not touchwiz, lets see when Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread officially
IMO HTC are not the fastest of companies to update their OS the latest google offerings.
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absolutely agreed they build really cool phones, but they are indeed not famous for software updates...
2-3 months maybe according to what happened to the desire..
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when I see that my working colleagues with a HTC legend are still on android 2.1 I doubt a software update in the first year... :\ Although DHD may be (one of their) top phones. But lets hope HTC improves on that, I would even pay for Android version upgrades...
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
in my experience owning HTC handsets with sense, there will only be 1 update during the life time of the gadget. being 2.3 or 3.0, don't expect it to be any time soon, especially when current DHD is not every widely available yet.
I say 6-8 month at least.
Its one annoying aspect of owning HTC sense phone, they are not a software specialist.
However, the fact that Samsung is getting Nexus Two with Gingerbread probably means HTC is under pressure to have at least one cracking phone with 2.3. We can only wait and see if they choose to update DHD or launch a new line.
Really hated Galaxy S and gutted that's what the Nexus Two will be based on
People always say HTC isn't the best with updates... but who is, aside from google with the nexus one?
I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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I really hope HTC don't take too long. But then again i plan on rooting and loading a custom gingerbread rom, stock of course. Now about that root...
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hehehe what about having the phone first
you might do what i'm plaining to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8911576#post8911576
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I agree no one is quick in getting software updates so no reason to just slag off HTC.
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I have to diagree.
HTC is the first and biggest androids producer. They made Nexus One which is great when it comes to software support. If anyone they should be setting the standard not dragging the progress. They said it themselves that they wanted to benefit from the "Google Experience", and frankly speaking they are the last brand on earth to have excuses for not keeping up with android progress.
wendy75 said:
Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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That doesnt make any sense the os is supposed to be free to anyone to use any overlay or luncher they want to use
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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I ve heard the same thing as well. supposed to be one of google's way to resolve the OS fragmentation problem. However I heard that's going to happen in Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
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ooh interesting, that would be stir things up a bit becuase that would mean if samsungs phones are the same as htc (software), then they have to either battle on hardware or price
but no sense
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Isn't Gingerbread rumoured not suppose to allow for any overlays.? If so then I doubt it will come to the DHD.
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It's a debunked rumor. AOSP interface has barely changed with Android 2.3
My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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My guess is 2-3 months, One of the reasons I chose HTC was because they are among the fastest to update ( I love Sense ). Samsung just started rolling 2.2 out, Sony Ericsson haven't even updated to 2.2, Sony Ericsson getting 2.1 this weekend..
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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I ll bet £50 it ll take more than 3 months, any taker?
It took HTC 8 month to update Hero.
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Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
tolis626 said:
Yes,but then again,the Hero was an old,outdated device then.Desire had already come out and there were many better devices out there.Remember that the Desire was one of the first phones to get Froyo(I think second after the Nexus One).Don't be so sure it will take much time...
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my point being people buying DHD shouldn't put too much hope in getting gingerbread immediately. DHD hardware is superb and the sense overlay on 2.2 has got lots of great features, and its probably just a matter of time before DHD get rooted and 2.3 be ported over anyway.
I f none of these matters as much as getting 2.3 straightaway, hold on for a couple more weeks and get the Nexus Two is probably a better idea(and wear the pain of a samsung phone, I m not falling for that again)
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
El_Nino9 said:
if i recall gingerbread was roughly estimated for december/janurary
thought there were still issues with oracle and google over android using dalvik vm?so I thought, yes me only- not starting a rumor- that that might have delayed it as dalvik is part of java and ISN'T open source?
anyways your device doesnt get 1 update only
look at the mytouch 3g? had android 1.5, 1.6 and 2.2 3 upgradeds in its life?
now look at the desire, htc call it a high end product. it was on 2.1 is running 2.2 and will definately get gingerbread when it comes out, but no time scale will be given for that.
HTC are better then any company in giving updates if anything compared to other companies.
when an company decides to put its own overlay is when things get delayed. if they keep it vanilla releases would be quick and easy, but how do you make your device unique? what features do you add to make you stand out the crowd?
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You're the man!

Gingerbread!!!

So Gingerbread (2.3) is here and I wanted to be the first nagging user to ask when we are going to see the port for the Aria?
No asking for ETAs...IOW, whenever they damn well please.
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Gingerbread may be out but the source isn't so no gingerbread for you.
Good things come to those who wait just like grandma's inheritance, uh, I mean cookies.
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Good news most def.
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
Don't know if you guys saw this or not( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-news-gingerbread-2-3-running-on-droid-eris/ ), but punk.kaos got Gingerbread kinda working on the Eris. In terms of power the Eris is sort of a bottom feeder so if it can run on the Eris it definitely can run on the Aria. But we will have to be patient, unless someone knows how to port the source to the Aria. I am loving 6.1 right now, so I can wait for Gingerbread at the moment.
A guy got a hacked port to boot on his HTC Wildfire which is slower than the aria. No this does not mean a port will come to the aria yet.
ls377 said:
This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
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It was also assumed by many that Android 3.0 would be Gingerbread. Instead, Gingerbread is 2.3.
With 3.0, there are rumors of higher end graphics and processor requirements.
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Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
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True. It looks like Liberty/Slide/Legend will be included when CM goes to Android 2.3.
I am not sure about 3.0 though, if it's going to be targeted exclusively at larger, more powerful, higher resolution devices. Time will tell how successfully that stuff will be supported on MDPI devices it's not intended for with 1 1/2 gen processors, even with decent GPUs.
Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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you haven't disappointed us thus far attn1!
keep up the good work
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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That's good news! No one knew until now!
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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I know I'm not going to hold my breath for an official release. Based on what I've been reading on several forums, there have been rumblings that the Aria might not see an official 2.2 (Which quite frankly I had already given up hope on).
Who knows though, perhaps AT&T and HTC decided that since it's deployment on 2.2 was so late, that they would wait until 2.3... or 2.4... 5, or 6.
Either way, thanks for everything devs, CM and Liberated are both great Froyo ROMs, and I've used both without a hitch.
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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Google has already pledged that Nexus One will get Gingerbread, so no issue there.
HTC said back in the beginning of the year that any device launched in 2010 will get upgraded to Froyo, so that includes the AT&T Aria, so we'll definitely get official Froyo for that.
Whether the AT&T Aria will get Gingerbread officially is up in the air, but I'm all but certain that the Gratia will, given that it just launched with 2.2.

Android 2.4 coming April; Google Kills 2.3 Gingerbread Update

Check out this article from Android Headlines,
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/02...pril-google-kills-2-3-gingerbread-update.html
Pretty big news no?
Only if your aren't rooted and are waiting on an official gb update. Your wait just got a little longer
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Looks like the only change is to make dual core apps compatible with single core phones
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Pretty big news no?
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Pretty big unconfirmed rumor at this point but it wouldn't be surprising after what happened with 2.0 and 2.1.
I find that a little concerning, unless the only actual difference relates to single/dual core compatibility. The reason I rolled back from Gingerbread to Froyo was because some of my apps weren't Gingerbread ready. I hope the difference isn't significant enough to cause a gap like this.
That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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My feeling exactly... i mean why would u do that???
Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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If google tells htc to not update to 2.3, and 2.4 isn't due out till april, then that pretty much guarantees that the Evo will reach it's eol on froyo. It still take a couple months after the updates released for it to be used
With a source like Pocket-lint it has to be "who the hell are they?"
No, really. I've never heard of these guys.
You wanna buy a bridge?
Well I heard they are killing the 2.4 release to solve the multi-screen issues, by releasing Android 2.5 "troufles" in July. So named because of the layers of screen, not shrooms ( did you get that big "G" ? )
And our long wait gets longer.
I'm LoL'ing at people who blindly believe the OP.

Lets make sure atrix gets ice cream sandwich we do have the power

http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them
try and get as many people as you can too do the same. It will make a difference.
I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.
Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yeah but the atrix 2 is a stepdown compared to atrix 1!
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I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.
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It's running 2.3.7? Thats news to me, also have people not seen the leaked videos? It appears to have all on screen buttons. Like honeycomb. Not sure it would work on the atrix. The screen is already small enough
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The Atrix is really close to being officially supported by CM. Once ICS is released and the CM team makes their latest version (will be CM9) it will have ICS and will work with with the Atrix.
re: official CYyanogen support, do you know this officially or are you speculating?
not being rude, genuinely want to know
I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Still the Atrix has the extra core which is supposed to be optimized in ICS, plus double the ram over the Nexus S...
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I was not implying spamm there pages i meant voice our oppinion let moto know theres alot of people who like this device and we want them to continue its support. And if they do that would really be. In there favor id most likely choise moto for my next device
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Froyo was the reason why I sold my Milestone. Eclair was smoothly, and for whatever reason I could never flash back to Eclair. Every time I tried going back, I got forced closed errors everywhere.
If the Milestone had 512mb of ram, I probably would still be using it since I really liked the build quality of that phone...
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I guess Milestones handled the OS differently than other
Guys. The atrix is getting ICS.
Chill
god if ics is any better than the ics launcher in the market ill bee in heaven
cause this launcher is sweet
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Desire HD ICS Canceled...

http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...ename/Device_OS_Upgrade_Schedule_July12th.pdf
They canceled it due to poor performance in testing...
HTC is such a joke
I don't believe that b.s HTC is not supporting any of there older lineup, There all about there 2012 and beyond lineup.
Such a shame, If it wasn't for us there wouldn't be a htc!
probably "fake" (true only for that carrier).
Desire HD will be updated to ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28734289&postcount=3
hope :angel:
I doubt it, if that were true, then they would have pulled it from the HTC website http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
We'll just have to wait for further news directly from HTC, or till the update finally gets released. I seriously doubt HTC's that much of a joke that they couldn't make ICS + Sense 4.0A work on the Desire HD, when they could on the One V.
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We'll just have to wait for further news directly from HTC, or till the update finally gets released. I seriously doubt HTC's that much of a joke that they couldn't make ICS + Sense 4.0A work on the Desire HD, when they could on the One V.
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Which is why I think it's more carrier specific than anything. Basically would mean that Telus customers won't get an official Telus OTA or similar update to their DZ, but may still be able to get an HTC provided (or another carrier based) ICS rom.
If it's true that is.
Oke people need to read more and think more..... Telus is not upgrading the Desire HD.. where on earth did you ever read "HTC is canceling the DHD update"?
If we get word of HTC about not upgrading, wich probably will not happen since the Incredible S and the Desire S ( both less spectacular phones ) got the update, then we will need to post something about HTC not upgrading.
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the Incredible S and the Desire S ( both less spectacular phones )
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Whoa whoa no they aren't. The Desire HD, Desire S and Incredible S all have the _exact_ same spec, aside from the screen sizes.
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This isn't HTC, it's Telus. Does not mean unbranded DHDs won't get the update or other carrier branded devices. Just means that Telus chose not to release the update....move along people not a huge deal right now.
It also means that if testing devices were given to Telus, hardware drivers were written. A leak of that testing rom would be nice.
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It also means that if testing devices were given to Telus, hardware drivers were written. A leak of that testing rom would be nice.
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Though I didn't see anything regarding testing in the PDF, so they might not have even bothered with it based on specs alone.
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Though I didn't see anything regarding testing in the PDF, so they might not have even bothered with it based on specs alone.
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Telus canceled it, which meant HTC gave them a software update to test before rolling it out to consumers.
HTC hasn't canceled anything, they are pushing updates to carriers for testing, and it is up to those carriers to decide whether the update is good enough to release to customers or not. Telus decided that for their customers it wasn't. We know the DHD can handle Sense and ICS. So either HTC wrote incompetent software, or Telus decided it wasn't worth the money or time to test an update for a dated device (Much more likely). In both instances an official HTC made ICS rom exists.
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Telus canceled it, which meant HTC gave them a software update to test before rolling it out to consumers.
HTC hasn't canceled anything, they are pushing updates to carriers for testing, and it is up to those carriers to decide whether the update is good enough to release to customers or not. Telus decided that for their customers it wasn't. We know the DHD can handle Sense and ICS. So either HTC wrote incompetent software, or Telus decided it wasn't worth the money or time to test an update for a dated device (Much more likely). In both instances an official HTC made ICS rom exists.
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Which also means they could at the very least release DHD ICS drivers to the developer community...
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Which also means they could at the very least release DHD ICS drivers to the developer community...
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any way to contact them to see if they'll release this? if that was even legit.
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any way to contact them to see if they'll release this? if that was even legit.
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Don't think they will straight up "release" a test build. It will have to be leaked internally.
Just hang tight, all it takes is one carrier to give the go ahead.....or for HTC themselves to cancel it.
In the astrix it says that HTC cancelled the upgrade for performance reasons, not Telus.
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In the astrix it says that HTC cancelled the upgrade for performance reasons, not Telus.
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So it seems:
HTC has cancelled the HTC Desire HD ICS upgrade due to poor device performance during testing
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But nothing has changed on their blog as of yet.
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My Guess is that For the desired apps and pre-bundled setup that Telus will use will not perform well with ICS, as such may be canceled for that specific carrier. We'll still likely see it released straight from HTC (just not carrier-specific/bundled) since their blog still says that it's confirmed to get ICS.
Let me say, that if they can get ICS+Sense4.0 working on the Desire C (600mhz Snapdragon +512mb ram), there is zero reason they can't get it on a former flagship device in the Desire HD.
We don't know if HTC has canceled it across the board. If they have it will suck, but won't really matter in the long run. Camera fixes were the big deal here, it isn't the end of the world if they don't turn up.
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Let me say, that if they can get ICS+Sense4.0 working one the Desire C (600mhz Snapdragon +512mb ram), there is zero reason they can't get it on a former flagship device in the Desire HD.
We don't know if HTC has canceled it across the board. If they have it will suck, but won't really matter in the long run. Camera fixes were the big deal here, it isn't the end of the world if they don't turn up.
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Well said. Remember though that not only is Sense 4.0 less bloated than 3.6, the Desire C only has a HVGA resolution so it would naturally need less power. That said I still believe the 2nd gen 1ghz CPU and 768mb RAM within the Desire HD should run it just fine at WVGA.
Just read this, kinda sucks if it's true.

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