Coming from lg g4 - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Question is would I enjoy rather than hate the switch? I enjoyed my nexus 6 but shattered the glass and everyone wanted $220 to fix and grabbed a g4 for $150. But I love my camera but would the trade off be worth it?

Hell yes
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nellycruzz said:
Question is would I enjoy rather than hate the switch? I enjoyed my nexus 6 but shattered the glass and everyone wanted $220 to fix and grabbed a g4 for $150. But I love my camera but would the trade off be worth it?
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I'm a custom rom junky and every time I flash one on my pure I always go back to stock. That's how good the phone is. It's just like a nexus except it has Moto voice and Moto display added and it's super fast. I also have a note 4 that when it has stock android installed on it via a custom rom to make it comparable to the Moto X pure, the note 4 cannot keep up with the Moto X pure

I appreciate the responses I'm getting the pure for $220 and wanted to make sure it was a good choice

nellycruzz said:
I appreciate the responses I'm getting the pure for $220 and wanted to make sure it was a good choice
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I'm happy so far with mine after coming from a Note5 to a 6P and then a LG V10. The camera isn't great in low light like the LG but it's very good in daylight. It's definitely acceptable. As for the Pure it's well built and the software is great. Here are two photos I took on different days with the V10 and the Pure. The first is the Pure and the second the V10. Keep in mind the V10 one was taken later in the day and the sun was shining more on the house where the Pure one was in the late morning with the sun head on.

Well I love the speed of the v10, I just got a moto x pure for $220 white with sky blue back 32gb. So I feel pleased and I mainly want a great pic. Doesn't have to be the absolute best, just a great pic.

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Annddd I'm back! With a new Moto x!

Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
Locklear308 said:
Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Ahhhh Gravity Box. Honestly I don't know how it hasn't became the best thing in android. IMHO it's THE best thing.
Good idea! Yeah I really missed the active stuff... It really needs to became a stock android thing. Just like touchless.
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Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
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Yeah. DE all the way man. I don't want some ghetto AT&T logo making my phone look like garbage
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
UltimHero said:
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
thanks
UltimHero said:
yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
thanks
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Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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Not really stock. Slimkat, bricked kernel. Everything pretty much off. Greenified, etc. Same as I did with the x tho.
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kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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I agree 100%. I had both for a while, ended up keeping the X instead. I definitely miss flashing stuff all day but I just don't have the time. I spend too much time on xda as it stands
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
kj2112 said:
Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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[email protected] said:
Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Call me old fashioned, but I'm liking the led notification light. With light flow app I've changed colors for different notifications and what not. Pretty cool.
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UltimHero said:
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
Locklear308 said:
Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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UltimHero said:
Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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I don't have an unlocked version I'm on at&t. I came from a 32 gig gs4 to a 16 gig moto x. I do admit there's times when I wish I had more gigs because I would love to keep more music on my device for maybe going to the gym or on car rides, but I have Pandora so that compensates for that. The things I love is active notifications, coming from an iPhone where you had your notifications on the lock screen its really useful in the end, paired up with touch less control saying what's up? And it reads your messages for you. On the nexus 5 you have to be on the homescreen and you have to have the Google now launcher to use the "OK Google" voice command. On moto x it has touch less control with the phone off you can just say "OK Google now" and it responds.. Say I'm driving and here in California its illegal to text and drive and I need directions or need to text or make a call touch less control helps with that. Also active assist is awesome! While your driving if you get an incoming text or call it will read your message to you and you can respond back or pick up a call for you. Pair this up with great headphones with a mic and your good to go. I'm using my gs4 headphones and it works great with it.
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UltimHero said:
Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
Kenichi
Kenichi said:
As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
Kenichi
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I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
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UltimHero said:
I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
thanks mate
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I'd take a snippet for you for each of the cameras but all in all. To stack up against each other, I find that the iPhone 5S camera is superior to the mobile world, aside from the Note 3's camera which is INSANE! But comparison of the N5, Moto X, and 5S. I think that the 5S > Moto X > N5. I agree the N5 camera is good, but it doesn't capture as much true colors as I find that it struggles to carry colors. I'd take the Moto X's camera any day, it's just consistent and the colors are generally quite close to my DSLR I use.
As far as build quality, hands down again, the Moto X takes the steals vs the N5! But compared to the iPhone 5S, I'm not sure, because the two are made out of two completely different material, and I find that I like metal phones, but it's not as a big of a deal with the Moto X because I enjoy the experience very much!
I think these forums feels dead, because there are very little users on it anyways. It's not that it's a bad phone, but it wasn't a popular phone either because many of my mobile friends weren't interested in it for the fact that it lacked in hardware, and they don't care for the software very much. Or they find that they prefer the hardware over software. I feel that people haven't given this phone a chance to impress them is all. All well! I hope the next Moto generates a lot of commotion, because it is in my honest opinion, the best phone of Android hands down. Simplistic, and it just works!
Kenichi

Nexus 6, Moto X Play, or Note 4

Let the debate begin. Obviously these 3 devices will be the highest end you can buy.
As for me, I am completely torn between the 3 devices.
I am really upset that the Droid Turbo/Moto X Play will have better specs than the Nexus 6. (21mp camera, HUGE Battery)
Here are my thoughts.
Nexus 6
- Always will have latest version of Android
- 6 inch display is too damn big. (But will look very nice with 2k )
- Camera is nowhere near top of the line by today's standards.
- No removable battery or expandable storage
- Wireless charging!
- No IR blaster. (Sorry, this feature is awesome. Have you ever turned off a TV at the bar in the middle of the game?? )
- It's gorgeous
Moto X Play/Droid Turbo
- I would rather take 5.2 in display over 6 in
- Tablet sized batterry
- 21MP Camera!
- No guarantee it will always have latest version of Android
- Moto X Play will probably will take forever to come out after Droid Turbo because of Verizon exclusive. I want my new phone NOW
Note 4
- Great camera (Better than nexus 6)
- Replaceable battery and expandable storage
- IR Blaster
- It is also gorgeous
- Touchwiz has always, and will always suck.
- Flashing any AOSP/CM based rom will break a lot of the features. It will also degrade camera performance because of the new kernel
What y'all think?
I am only torn between 2. The moto x and the Nexus 6....I just can't stand touch wiz.
Really my only doubt is the size of the Nexus but it is a Nexus. Love my N5 and i still feel it has a lot of longevity but man oh man do I want that new hardware....
I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I am on Tmo. There should be a GSM variant of the Turbo coming out called the Moto X Play per an FCC filing.
I think it is safe to say that from a pure specs perspective, this phone is at the top.
Hmmm intriguing. Now I'm more confused and sad I have to wait. Haha
Its also worth noting that all of these moto phones coming out are still operating under Google ownership. This should be good thing with keeping the bloat to a minimum.
What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
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- Camera is nowhere near top of the line by today's standards.
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Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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I have the note 3 and its tits, I'm getting the nexus 6. If I ever get annoyed, I can always go back to my note 3. Nexus 4 and 5 were a bore to me. I'm actually very boob excited for this nexus 6
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pedxing said:
I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloaders are notoriously difficult to crack. If ROMing is your thing, then the Moto X Play probably won't be. I don't know if you've considered the regular Moto X but I would give it an honest shot too. You can pick up the Pure edition which is free of carrier bloat and has an unlockable bootloader essentially making it a 5.2" Nexus phone. It is hands down the nicest feeling Android phone I've ever held in my hands, and its performance is top notch.
As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm on verizon. Sold my note 3 because I could not stand touchwiz. Bought the moto x it is a fantastic phone but I miss being able to play with phones like my galaxy nexus. Im buying the nexus 6 the instant it is available.
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloader safe notoriously difficult to crack.
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Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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If and when it does come out, its software will be as close to stock as you can get without it being an official "pure android" device. Ditching Blur was the smartest thing Motorola did- they went from having the worst software to having the best software overnight. The additional software features that Motorola includes in their phones now actually make stock android better. Active display is the greatest thing in the world since man first discovered that oysters are edible.
Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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It's not an essential upgrade of course, but this is XDA and usually most people upgrading here aren't doing it because they need to. From the Carphone Warehouse video, the camera is apparently almost as good as the Note 4's in daytime shots and slightly better in lowlight shots. So it should be comparable, if not a bit better, than the S5's. The Nexus 6 will certainly be a great deal bigger, so assess whether or not a big phone is for you (I'd test out an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4 and see if you think you can adjust). It's subjective, but I and many others vastly prefer stock Android over TouchWiz and that's always been a reason to buy a Nexus device for me. Take in mind you'll be giving up expandable storage and removable batteries. I'm not sure if that's important to you or not, though.
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm specifically replying to agree with what you're saying about the iPhone 6. I've been using mine since launch (4.7", 128gb), and I almost hate how much I love it. The last time I tried out an iPhone was with the iPhone 5 and after three weeks I felt like I was being held back in functionality over Android and switched back to my original HTC One, sold the iPhone, and didn't look back. This time, though, I don't see myself doing that. I'm past the honeymoon phase and am still finding very few things to dislike. The screen, the camera, the battery life, the smoothness. It's all on point. I've been annoyed by a lack of customizability a couple times, but my lack of complaints in other areas allow it. This is the first device I've ever had that I don't believe has an Achilles heel. It's almost a shame that it's an iPhone, though. I'm hoping the Nexus 6 will be the Android equivalent.
I was torn between the Nexus 6 and the Xperia Z3, but after actually seeing the N6, that's what I'm going with!
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@gregk232
My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
gregk232 said:
Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
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No the Nexus 6 has a newer/better camera hardware than the Moto X.
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jball said:
@gregk232
My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
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The only thing I like about Touchwiz, is the Messaging App and the Photo Gallery/Editing Options. Everything else is just way over the top.
The debate is pretty simply...do you wish to get an OS update before you sell the device?
If so...then Samsung is right off the list.

Moto X (2014) vs Nexus 5

So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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See I'm not all about specs and hardware, more about personal user experience with the device. Accidents happen, I took really good care of my Nexus 5 but it fell out of my hands because of someone else mucking about around me.
The Nexus 6 is way too big for me. I loved using my Nexus 5 and I would happily buy it again but the Moto X looks very appealing. I'm all about stock android so.
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
When I had my 2013 moto x, I decided to try the Nexus 5. Bought it, it arrived, toyed with it for 5 mins, then promptly put it back in the box to sell it to a friend. I thought the 2013 X was better than the N5 off usability features alone. The 2014 X completely dominates the N5.
Better ergonomics
WAYYYYYY better speakers
Better reception
Customizable
Moto Display+Voice
The only thing the N5 has over the X is the well-calibrated LCD screen.
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Yeah, N5 would have such a hard time keeping up with LTE. I was mostly on HSPA+ because radio pretty much sucked.
I am coming from M8 as well and X may not have the same quality and deepness, but it's very very loud and surprises you at times for being just one speaker. Equalizer is pretty good by default on X as well.
I love the texting from Chrome browser and the X talking to me while driving. Oh and sleep mode saves your screen some energy by not turning it on at all if put screen down or in night mode. Software features are actually useful unlike gimmicks IMHO.
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I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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The Pure edition gives us an unlockable bootloader, because the AT&T and Verizon models are locked down. I'm not sure how it works across the pond though, as long as you can unlock your bootloader than you're golden.
Both are amazing, in my opinion the Moto X is the Nexus 5 2.0
Better specs all around (albeit nothing to write home about it), better battery life and touchless control its superb
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
Exactly my debate a month ago. I've got a thread on here someplace about it. It came down to price vs quality and customization. I got the .edu discount (alumni account), so the difference was about $125 on a 32 GB. At that, the X with a wood back was worth it to me. If $ are tight, I think the Nexus 5 is the best option. If $ are tighter than that, then the Moto G (we have a couple of those in our household as well).
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
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I totally agree that the X feels nicer than the M8. I honestly wasn't all that impressed with the M8. It kinda gives off a "hey look at me, I'm metal" vibe without actually being all that nice. Like it's made out of aluminum just for the sake of being made out of aluminum, for bragging rights, if that makes sense. There just isn't anything special about it... and those godawful bezels, ugh. The Moto X on the other hand is just... elegant. It's very mature, and no part of its design is superfluous. I keep saying it and I'll keep on saying it- the Moto X is the nicest smartphone ever made.
On a side note, my friend just got the One E8 which is essentially just a polycarbonate version of the M8 and I like it a heckuva lot more than the M8. I think it looks nicer and feels nicer than its aluminum brother.
The Moto X is like a Nexus 5.5. Physically a big step up from the Nexus 5, feels premium. If the Nexus 6 size puts you off a great successor. Outside of a Nexus there is no other manufacturer that will truly give you a stock feeling. Is it worth the price to upgrade? Not for everyone, but I wouldn't have gone to any other handset.
The development on this phone may not kick off massively, which would be a shame, but I wouldn't force yourself to adapt to the Nexus 6 just because its a new Nexus device. I'd either stay on the Nexus 5 or choose a Moto X.
If big devices don't bother you though its Nexus 6 > everything else.
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
mario24601 said:
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
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I'm on Nexus 4 and debating Moto X vs Nexus 5 (N6 size doesn't work for me).
I was leaning towards Moto X until I read your comment.
Why are you on the fence? What's not right about Moto X?
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So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
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I had the nexus 5 and hated it. Had great specs but the cheapest design and actually stuttered a little bit with animations.. least favorite phone so far besides the s4. I'd go nexus 6 if the screen isn't to big for you[emoji12]

Rumored LG G4 Pro

Already? This could come out in about 6 months according to other articles. Pretty sure I'm returning my G4 to Verizon in exchange for a Nexus 6..
http://phandroid.com/2015/06/18/lg-g4-pro-specs-rumor/
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Not because of this just find battery life disappointing. Haven't had any touch issues. But I did go right to Nova launcher and SwiftKey.
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1. Rumor
2. Guess you missed the thread that still sitting here on the front page started today about this every same thing
I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I've never truly had my mind blown. If the specs are fact, then I'll be prepared to be blown.
I'm returning my G4 as well, and getting another Note 4, a black one this time. Such hot specs on this gizmo and being unrooted is like driving my Benz at 55mph. Can't even run any adblocker. What kinda life is that!
Screen's too big for my taste. Same reason I've never liked the note or Nexus 6 even though i owned them both. G4 is pushing my limit with size as it is. I would only be jealous if the thing comes with an unlocked bootloader out of the box!
tofi1 said:
I'm returning my G4 as well, and getting another Note 4, a black one this time. Such hot specs on this gizmo and being unrooted is like driving my Benz at 55mph. Can't even run any adblocker. What kinda life is that!
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Haha.. I know how you feel.. well, I'm planning to return mine too.. Tell you the truth, the only thing I consider when choosing G4 is external battery and media card that Samsung left behind and wonderful root experience I got with G3.. but LG playing hard on this unlock thing, so no more LG for me..
I hope the lg g4 pro will alot better then this g4 808 snapdragon.
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Haha.. I know how you feel.. well, I'm planning to return mine too.. Tell you the truth, the only thing I consider when choosing G4 is external battery and media card that Samsung left behind and wonderful root experience I got with G3.. but LG playing hard on this unlock thing, so no more LG for me..
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Just wait, just like the g3 get also the root after a while.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-pro-coming-october-t3138896

Reasons for little Rom Development?

I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
autosurgeon said:
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
DerrickTight said:
Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Yeah I'm really excited about getting one. Since my Moto G4 broke I've been using my old Nexus 5 and havent had much luck breaking the chop chop habit. I have a 8 month old baby and its been insanely useful. Looking forward to the dual speakers too. Also excited to see one of my favorite roms Validus Oreo from GRZ being developed here for Moto X Pure.
It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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I'm completely with you, I did alot of research on Moto X Pure and have had a ton of phones over the years. In my head, I see myself being very satified with it. Nexus 6 was one of my favorites (except I didnt like the amoled screen and the huge size) and this phone reminds me what was good about it but without the stuff I didnt. Plus, since coming from a Moto G4, I found those exclusive Moto features very useful and handy. Also having the FM radio built in has been nice in certain circumstances.
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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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Totally man it is 2018, and it's an older phone but the only thing that separates it from newer flagships is the battery, and the chipset! Yet I've always thought due to Moto's optimized software it offset any issues with the snapdragon808. That it performed with other 808's and even phones with the Snapdragon 810! The screen to buddy ratio is even today good, and then it was great! I was also happy to hear somebody give props to the ips lcd screen! I believe it's just as good as any AMOLED screen I've seen! And is way better in direct sunlight! I honestly have to say my favorite phone!!!
@Optimusman
Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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@Optimusman
Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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30% or lesser for indoor (day). Because of the battery life.
0% for indoor (night) with bluelight filter.
50%-70% outdoor (under the sun) - usually will keep on adjusting to prevent from wasting the battery juice.
Brightness
I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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DerrickTight said:
I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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I'm heavily considering it but I have a lot of obligations so it wouldnt be something to hold your breathe for. Its something that requires alot of time and patience. Thats why I always say donate to your devs. It isnt easy. Time will tell though, I could use another hobby. Might make something just for me, who knows.
I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
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The main reason I have rooted and rom'd is for customization. I have a large collection of paid Sub themes too. I've been ad free for over 7 years and I wont go back to the ads experience.
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Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
DerrickTight said:
Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
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Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
acejavelin said:
Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
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I have been searching awhile, so is it true that beside XDA forum there are still other website that post custom ROM ?

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