I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
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Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Yeah I'm really excited about getting one. Since my Moto G4 broke I've been using my old Nexus 5 and havent had much luck breaking the chop chop habit. I have a 8 month old baby and its been insanely useful. Looking forward to the dual speakers too. Also excited to see one of my favorite roms Validus Oreo from GRZ being developed here for Moto X Pure.
It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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I'm completely with you, I did alot of research on Moto X Pure and have had a ton of phones over the years. In my head, I see myself being very satified with it. Nexus 6 was one of my favorites (except I didnt like the amoled screen and the huge size) and this phone reminds me what was good about it but without the stuff I didnt. Plus, since coming from a Moto G4, I found those exclusive Moto features very useful and handy. Also having the FM radio built in has been nice in certain circumstances.
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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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Totally man it is 2018, and it's an older phone but the only thing that separates it from newer flagships is the battery, and the chipset! Yet I've always thought due to Moto's optimized software it offset any issues with the snapdragon808. That it performed with other 808's and even phones with the Snapdragon 810! The screen to buddy ratio is even today good, and then it was great! I was also happy to hear somebody give props to the ips lcd screen! I believe it's just as good as any AMOLED screen I've seen! And is way better in direct sunlight! I honestly have to say my favorite phone!!!
@Optimusman
Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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30% or lesser for indoor (day). Because of the battery life.
0% for indoor (night) with bluelight filter.
50%-70% outdoor (under the sun) - usually will keep on adjusting to prevent from wasting the battery juice.
Brightness
I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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I'm heavily considering it but I have a lot of obligations so it wouldnt be something to hold your breathe for. Its something that requires alot of time and patience. Thats why I always say donate to your devs. It isnt easy. Time will tell though, I could use another hobby. Might make something just for me, who knows.
I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
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The main reason I have rooted and rom'd is for customization. I have a large collection of paid Sub themes too. I've been ad free for over 7 years and I wont go back to the ads experience.
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Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
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Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
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Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
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Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
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I have been searching awhile, so is it true that beside XDA forum there are still other website that post custom ROM ?
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Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
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Dev Edition. Woot. Again. I talked to motorola after sending back my old one. The microphone just stopped working and they would not do an exchange. They agreed to help, but couldn't give me the sale price any more so they offered me 70 bucks in free accessories. Woot
Reveal case and Dock here I come. Ugh...so glad to be sending back the nexus 5. Moto x ftw.
Anyone else have a slightly stiff power button? I pray it is normal. lol
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Root, gravity box with the sleep menu in the drop down setting + active notifications. You'll never have to use your power button again... But it becomes a habit after a long time using the power button to turn on and off the phone.
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Ahhhh Gravity Box. Honestly I don't know how it hasn't became the best thing in android. IMHO it's THE best thing.
Good idea! Yeah I really missed the active stuff... It really needs to became a stock android thing. Just like touchless.
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Yeah, I'd say my DE phone is pretty stiff on the buttons....especially compared to a GS3. Did you have a DE phone before? I couldn't recall....
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Yeah. DE all the way man. I don't want some ghetto AT&T logo making my phone look like garbage
welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
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kj2112 said:
I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
thanks
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yeah im a bit worried in terms of build quality , how do they compare, i mean is the moto way ahead ?
thanks
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Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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matching moto x's battery life with stock setup ?
thanks its very helpful !
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Not really stock. Slimkat, bricked kernel. Everything pretty much off. Greenified, etc. Same as I did with the x tho.
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I have both.
N5 if you like to flash stuff and want raw power, X if you want exclusive Moto features and probably the better quality phone.
They are pretty similar in most other categories.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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I agree 100%. I had both for a while, ended up keeping the X instead. I definitely miss flashing stuff all day but I just don't have the time. I spend too much time on xda as it stands
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
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Nah, they're fairly similar. If the exclusive Moto features aren't a concern....I think the devices are fairly equal. I'm even matching my Moto x battery life....tho I run very lean and mean.
Size is another difference. The n5 feels bigger in hand for sure. Not weight, but dimensions.
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I could use either one, but missed all the development, so gave wife my x, I have the n5.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Looks like the creator of omnirom has figured oqut how to use the snapdragon 800 processor on the n5 to have touch less control... Still in beta be on the lookout. Along with dynamic notifications you got yourself the moto x on the n5.
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Call me old fashioned, but I'm liking the led notification light. With light flow app I've changed colors for different notifications and what not. Pretty cool.
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welcome back ! why did u send ur N5 ? how do u compare them , cause im very hesitating between N5 and Moto X !
thanks in advance!
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Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
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Better feel in hand, solid feel. MUCH BETTER SPEAKER. I mean my god. Feels just as fast as the N5. Screen isn't as sharp...BUT you get AMOLED colors, which I love.
Battery life is GOD LIKE at least for me. Moto x is much better
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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I don't have an unlocked version I'm on at&t. I came from a 32 gig gs4 to a 16 gig moto x. I do admit there's times when I wish I had more gigs because I would love to keep more music on my device for maybe going to the gym or on car rides, but I have Pandora so that compensates for that. The things I love is active notifications, coming from an iPhone where you had your notifications on the lock screen its really useful in the end, paired up with touch less control saying what's up? And it reads your messages for you. On the nexus 5 you have to be on the homescreen and you have to have the Google now launcher to use the "OK Google" voice command. On moto x it has touch less control with the phone off you can just say "OK Google now" and it responds.. Say I'm driving and here in California its illegal to text and drive and I need directions or need to text or make a call touch less control helps with that. Also active assist is awesome! While your driving if you get an incoming text or call it will read your message to you and you can respond back or pick up a call for you. Pair this up with great headphones with a mic and your good to go. I'm using my gs4 headphones and it works great with it.
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Every time I come closer to deciding I see another point of view...X)
I really like the X but I in Europe there is only the unlocked version no DE ,no moto maker , and for the same price .plus the lenovo deal is really worrying me I really like moto under Google's lead ...what do you guys think ?
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As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
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Kenichi said:
As far as my experience with the N5 and Moto X, I prefer the Moto X for a few variables. Of course, the big things that appealed to me in general with the first few hours of usage was the quality over the Nexus 5. Specifically the phone's speaker and sound card. Also, the phone takes less work in order to maximize battery. I ran stock rooted for the first few months I owned my Moto X until I saw Faux make his kernel, and that is the only reason I decided to even flash. Other than that, I just enjoy an AOSP experience with a few extra add on that makes the phone a much more pleasurable experience.
As far as 1080P resolution vs 720P resolution, I've always wanted manufacturers to opt for 720P as I understand the screen is a bit clearer, but you gain so much more battery life!
Driving Mode/Driving Assist is one of the biggest features for me as I drive quite a bit with incoming text being read out to me, and allowing me to respond back via my voice. As well as the ability to just continue driving, and suddenly your device plays your current music from your specified app that you prefer music to stream from!
The biggest thing that Moto X has to offer is the fact that this phone is the closest thing to AOSP with extra goodies that make the phone unnecessary to root, unless you're a flashaholic, which you are still able to with this phone. Just overall, this phone is a +3 more on a scale of 1 to 10 of N5 experience.
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I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
thanks mate
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I agree! i don't wh it feels like the moto x's forums r dead ! what do u think of the build quality between both ?cameras ?
thanks mate
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I'd take a snippet for you for each of the cameras but all in all. To stack up against each other, I find that the iPhone 5S camera is superior to the mobile world, aside from the Note 3's camera which is INSANE! But comparison of the N5, Moto X, and 5S. I think that the 5S > Moto X > N5. I agree the N5 camera is good, but it doesn't capture as much true colors as I find that it struggles to carry colors. I'd take the Moto X's camera any day, it's just consistent and the colors are generally quite close to my DSLR I use.
As far as build quality, hands down again, the Moto X takes the steals vs the N5! But compared to the iPhone 5S, I'm not sure, because the two are made out of two completely different material, and I find that I like metal phones, but it's not as a big of a deal with the Moto X because I enjoy the experience very much!
I think these forums feels dead, because there are very little users on it anyways. It's not that it's a bad phone, but it wasn't a popular phone either because many of my mobile friends weren't interested in it for the fact that it lacked in hardware, and they don't care for the software very much. Or they find that they prefer the hardware over software. I feel that people haven't given this phone a chance to impress them is all. All well! I hope the next Moto generates a lot of commotion, because it is in my honest opinion, the best phone of Android hands down. Simplistic, and it just works!
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I'm really struggling with this one! Would really appreciate any other users' experiences between these two specific devices.
I have both sitting here and here are my initial thoughts:
--Thought the ergonomics of Moto X would be far superior to M8 due to weight and height, but actually doesn't feel any better.
--Cameras are a tough call: X has higher resolution (obviously, with 13MP vs. 4UMP) but M8 is quicker, and seems less "noisy" despite lower res.
--Active Notifications on X are a great concept, but I didn't realize they're motion-sensitive. I have it sitting on the armchair of the sofa next to me, and every time I move even a tiny bit, the screen comes to life. A bit annoying.
--Love the near-stock experience of the X. Also REALLY, REALLY love Trusted Bluetooth Devices on X! This is huge. (I know this can be done via 3rd party app on M8, but not if you utilize a pattern lock).
--Biggest gripe: the AMOLED screen on X has nice, deep colors, but I find the classic AMOLED discoloration (warm, yellowish-green tint) to be highly pronounced and IMO, really pollutes and detracts from the entire screen experience. Especially next to the M8.
Well, I don't have an m8 but have had an m7 for a long time. The only cons I can think of going from One to X are:
Only 1 front facing speaker
Amoled screen is amoled screen
Camera isn't as refined as far as ease of use, things like touching to refocus an area I still haven't figured out I just keep taking pictures...and agreed they can be grainy. But I'm one of those "I have an expensive DSLR that takes better photos" guys. If I'm going to a place I know I'll want photos of I bring it, if not the X will do.
No IR sensor for controlling things. Never really used it much for myself as much as I did to troll people at their houses messing with their stuff so that isn't a real con unless you like to troll.
Other than that the X is > in my opinion, but again I haven't had a 8 just a 7 not much changed so I still feel I can weight in on this.
Really just having moto assist is awesome. IIRC you can turn off moto display/actions (setting that handles hand gestures) so you don't have to worry about randomly triggering it while on the sofa.
The one thing I had to get used to was it acting like a notification LED. If I have one it will blink in and out slowly. Again it can be turned off but I'm growing to like it a lot.
Best part of all you already said. Near stock android experience!! With the promise of L shortly after it comes out! HTC will get L too but not til they reskin it, etc etc so X will get it faster and its still stock...soooooo...
I currently use the M8 and had the original X last year. I've owned the M8 since day one but am switching to the Moto X 2014. It has to do more with the originality as I'm customizing mine and the value adds Motorola builds into their software. Trusted Devices, Moto Voice and Display not to mention the Assist just were icing toppers. I believe this device well get software updates quickly like previous model and as recent outlets have demonstrated, the Moto is very durable. Battery life should be fine from posts I've seen here and my experience with the original X. I think Motorola does something with their governors to put the device in deep sleep quickly and ramp up CPU by anticipating with the sensors. It's a looker for sure and though I will sacrifice stereo speakers, Motorola for an exceptional job with call quality and service reception.
I have an M8 and my Moto X will be here in the next week hopefully. My main worries going to the X are worse speakers and worse battery life. Both are excellent on the M8.
Apparently the X speaker is almost on par with the M8's twin speaker setup. Very crisp sound and hardly any distortion. The reviews have all said the speaker is excellent.
I hate HTC Sense UI. It can be confusing and comes with extra stuff like Blinkfeed that I don't really like and am unable to uninstall.
Also the M8 gets updates much slower than the X.
The build quality is superior on the X. They did a bend test video comparing it against other models and they said the X had the best build quality.
M8's camera is slightly better though especially in low light. The aluminium body feels really nice too. If I had to buy one, the first thing I'd do is to get vanilla Android on it but it would void my warranty and require root.
I actually think Sense is the best Android UI out there. Even better than stock. More features, better design and more consistency over the whole thing. Maybe L will change that. However, the wait time for updates is probably gonna force me to sell my M8. Shame but 2.5 months just to get the 4.4.3 update is way too long.
I'll chime in. I had a m8 from release and while it is a great phone I prefer the x. I like the feel in my hand more. The way the glass curves into the phone is amazing and much MUCH less bezel on the x feels more polished. The camera from just testing for a week on the x is better but not miles better. Sound is on par a bit tinny but loud and full for the most part. I prefer a stock ui to a skin so that is a huge plus. Being on Verizon we don't have a nexus and honestly this is a real REAL close second. Now the bad about the x. Battery. On my m8 I could go an easy day. With the x I gotta be close to a charger at the end of a work day. I am a heavy user so your mileage will vary for sure.
How do the speakers fare between the two? That's the real question!
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I actually think Sense is the best Android UI out there. Even better than stock. More features, better design and more consistency over the whole thing. Maybe L will change that. However, the wait time for updates is probably gonna force me to sell my M8. Shame but 2.5 months just to get the 4.4.3 update is way too long.
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L is the actual release that has the UX very consistent, even more than KitKat. finally there is some consistency. i think L will look better than Sense when it releases
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I'll chime in. I had a m8 from release and while it is a great phone I prefer the x. I like the feel in my hand more. The way the glass curves into the phone is amazing and much MUCH less bezel on the x feels more polished....
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i agree with your thoughts on look and feel. i also like the slightly larger screen. I use 2 devices, the M8 for work and the Note 3 for everything else. i'm going to use the X as a work phone for 13-days and make a decision to keep my Note 3 or return the X. if the X came wth 64GB storage or had a microSD slot, i can say for sure the Note would be relegated to the phone drawer or eBay.
I found the M8 too tall, too heavy, and too loaded with both carrier (AT&T) and HTC bloat. The top power button was a PITA. I went back to my 2013 Moto X. The 2014 X has a bigger screen than the M8 in a more ergonomic, better looking, and smaller package.
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I found the M8 too tall, too heavy, and too loaded with both carrier (AT&T) and HTC bloat. The top power button was a PITA. I went back to my 2013 Moto X. The 2014 X has a bigger screen than the M8 in a more ergonomic, better looking, and smaller package.
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Exactly the same feelings here, also spent most of my time between the M8 and new Moto X with the last Moto X. The One M8 is beautiful, as is Sense 6, but it just isn't nearly as pleasant to use.
I have a M8 and X 2013.
Screen in M8 is absolutely beautiful. From that I have heard X 2014 screen is not anywhere closer to M8. That might be a deal breaker for me.
I do absolutely hate sense. But sense 6 is not too bad actually. Sense have come a long way last few years. However, I still prefer AOSP launcher.
Battery on M8 is huge compared to X 2013. I dont read that X 2014 is anywhere close to M8. That might be a deal breaker as well.
Traded in my M7 for the Moto X. The X has much better radios.
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How loud and clear are the speakers between the M8 and X?
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How loud and clear are the speakers between the M8 and X?
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The M8's speakers are the best of any smartphone on the market. Nothing else comes close in clarity and bass reproduction.
I guess it depends what is most important to you. The only M8 I would consider is the GPE, and the difference in price from the X would not be worth it.
I'm a bit late to this, but I thought I would throw in my 2 cents. For the record, I haven't received my new X yet (still being built) so the Moto X stuff I'm going to say will be based off reviews mostly and my previous 1st gen X. I have owned the M8, but I sold it to buy the Moto! If you're looking for awesome battery life, the M8 has the moto beat...I would finish the day (12-15hrs, moderate use, rooted using CleanROM) with 40-50% battery left. I have a feeling that the Moto won't get anywhere near that, nor do I even expect it to. I prefer OLED display much more compared to any other technology, the X is far superior to the M8 in that respect (personal opinion). I also had a problem with the backlight of my M8 becoming seperated from the LCD and causing a lot of bleed through on the bottom. Moto Voice and Active Display are far superior to the swipe actions you get with the M8, as far as ease of access of the phone. Sound quality of the M8 is amazing if you're an audiophile, both headphone and external speaker quality. The X has stock Android (almost), which is always a plus! You'll get L a lot sooner than HTC too! Also, from my experience, the duo camera on the HTC is pretty lack luster...I mean, it looks pretty neat physically, but the pictures it takes are mediocre at best. I'm not really expecting the Moto to be better, but I kind of expected more from the HTC.
If you are on Verizon, then at this point in I would get the m8. I am struggling with this now. I want a phone that I can switch roms and root. I have unlimited data so I am "stuck" with Verizon. I also like the m8 having a sd card slot where I can store 64gb worth of video /music for a $30 micro SD card. I don't like amoled, on my past phones I have had bad burn in. That all being said, I can't justifying buying a 7 month old device that had to last me 2 years. Hopefully Verizon wows me with something that is also unlockable or at least root able.
I've only briefly played with a 2014 X, and own a 2013. Now I own an M8....i have to say, the M8 blew me away and still does comparing to the 2013 X and N5. It's an amazing machine.
I can't compare everything to the 2014 X..... But they are probably close in many aspects.... Except battery life. I get 24 hours with 8+ screen hours on my M8....and from what I've seen in the battery thread here, the X doesn't touch it there.
One other thing that would make me lean towards 5he M8 is that development is booming. I doubt the X will get very busy comparatively.
So weigh your needs and wants and decide what is best for you. ?
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And lots of stable Aosp for the M8. With double tap to wake included.... Without battery drain. Bonus. ?
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Both unrooted.... Battery is probably the only big difference.
Do you guys think there'll be a surge of orders from Nexus users who don't want to upgrade to a phone as big as the Nexus 6?
The new Moto X is the closest to a Nexus phone now (not phablet).
I think it's more likely that they stick with the Nexus 5 and pray Google comes back down to earth next year. I can't imagine that releasing a 5.9" phone as your one and only is going to pay off.
Yeah, I think the Moto X might pick of a few Nexus users (myself included) if the next Nexus device really only offers a 6" screen. But I suspect the reasons people want a Nexus device go deeper than that. The 1st Gen. Moto X got almost no development. If you want the roms and the hacks and all that, nothing is like the Nexus (and the Moto X is far from 2nd runner up, in terms of amount of development). So the near stock rom on the Moto X is a bit of a mirage. I'm still not sure I'm ready to make the jump and lose out on the development options (as well as the increased control and potential privacy offered by something like Cyanogen, over any manufacturer maintained rom).
Also the price on the Nexus has always been at least $100 lower than what a Moto X goes for. That's going to be a big deciding factor. Nothing talks like money.
But for people who aren't into the roms and just like the stock Android experience and don't care about price so much, maybe some of them will jump ship from the Nexus.
Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Severely doubt a 5.92" screen... 5.2" is more likely. Otherwise, the other released and confirmed specs look good. Just depends on battery life for me.
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Literally everything is pointing to a 5.9" screen. No one is even acknowledging that a 5.2" device is even in the works any more. More likely the 5.2" phone everyone was talking about was the Droid Turbo.
Are the Nexus 5 and Moto X using the same size sim?
EDIT: Nope. Curses.
Yea cause I'm most likely one of them. I think the better speakers is what I want most. Weak speakers is the only thing I don't like about the Nexus
I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I hope I don't offend some people, but it seems a sizable percentage of Nexus people look down on the Moto X because they think it's an overpriced stock Android phone and think it cost too much. This is also true with OPO users. They think just because a phone use stock Android it automatically worth less. They don't take in consideration the difference in hardware design and add-on features. I just think installing CM on the X just take away all the great things about it.
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I was a Nexus 4 user, and why I got the Moto X is because my n4 was dying on me. Also, it's a nice phone, and the added hardware and software tweaks is worth enough for the price imo. I just want a clean stock experience, and that is why I like both the Nexus and Moto X
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Nexus user here - owned every Nexus phone since the original. I've picked up a Moto X simply because this year's Nexus is too large. But I agree with the analysis here - the X is a good substitute, but it isn't quite the same thing and I hope we won't see any negatives from that. If we don't get L pronto I will be complaining all over Twitter :crying:
I bought the nexus 5 first and the moto x after but sold my nexus 5 and used the moto x exclusively. My wife got a new iphone so now i'm using her nexus 5.
Things i like since moving to the Nexus 5
larger crisper screen.
snappier performance (very noticable) whether in games, browsing, and using google now voice commands, everything just comes quicker and faster.
willingness to take more pictures because it has a better camera
Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
Touchless controls. I can't wake my phone from sleep. I don't use it much but when I want to I can't with the N5
--mics Moto's mics are awesome. I don't have to raise my voice like I do with the N5 when using the OK google command.
* on the N5 i have the google voice detection turned on for all screens and it drains the battery a little more. When plugged in, i leave the screen on so I have somewhat of touchless control.
Speaker - The moto's speaker is super loud compared to the N5.
Moto Assist - I use "AGENT" for the N5 but it's just not the same. The text reading and replying is very similar but with the Moto's mics the experience is better on the moto, but agent works very well as an alternative. Incoming calls aren't read out loud to you in Agent but they are in Moto Assist. AGENT relies on connecting to a trusted device in order for drive mode to come on while moto assist is able to detect when you're driving even w/o connecting to the trusted bluetooth device.
Battery life - i consistently get an hour more of SOT time with the moto over the N5 with just about the exact same type of usage.
There are a few other quirks between the two but these are the major ones for me.
The Moto X 2014 seems to blend both of these phones together and that's why I'm really wanting it, despite the battery life complaints. If it's equal to or greater to the moto x 2013 I'll probably get it. ESPECIALLY if the moto nexus doesn't have the moto tweaks. I doubt it does but i'm holding onto that small sliver of hope it does. These moto enhancements are very very very usual and i wish Google would bake these into Android but then Moto wouldn't be as unique any longer.
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Things i REALLY miss from the moto X
Active display. LED light from N5 doesn't cut it for me anymore
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
My take on it is that Motorola provides the nearest to Nexus experience (aside from GPE editions), with some extras in the sensors/software. The new Moto X is of the same hardware generation as the Nexus 5, so I think most will stick with the 5 unless they want a larger phone, and those will go to the 6 (which is about 1/2 generation newer if we believe the Snapdragon 805 [I almost called it a dragonball - now that will show my age in the mobile chip world] rumor). The phone jumpers will end up trying both the X and the 6, and may end up back at the 5.
I've been scratching my head between a Nexus 5 and Moto X to replace my work-supplied blackberry (company started to support Android in August) and think I am about to pull the trigger on the X. I thought about the M8 GPE, but holding both the new X and the M8 yesterday, the X definitely won out in-hand.
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Dynamic Notifications is a nice substitute to use on the N5.
I have an N5, OPO and Moto X 2014. The N6/X at 5.9" is too big.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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It's actually has some better features but it was ugly to look at from an angle since the n5 doesn't have the best viewing angles. Plus the turn screen on when pulling out of the pocket didn't work as well as the moto. Another feature I really like. Saves that power button.
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Also, the battery drain will be a little bit more since the n5 screen is LCD. Having an active display like feature is made for amoled screens if you want to conserve battery
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I'm considering the Moto X but I am waiting to see if a root method (an prefereably an easy way to unlock the bootloader like the first gen Moto X) appears for the non-pure edition devices. If that doesn't happen by January, I may just have to rock a stupidly huge device. Being able to root and customize/backup/automate to my heart's desire is the most important feature of a phone to me. Second is stock Android and fast updates (so obviously the Moto X meets that).
For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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For those of us on Verizon who have suffered through the Galaxy Nexus' shortcomings (late / no updates) and the fact that the N4 and N5 weren't available on VZW. ---- the new MOTO X is really the only reasonable choice. Just ordered mine on Sunday to replace my ancient Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping it is "pure enough". I do need someone to gain root though....
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Even after the most recent GPU update lol I still own mine and play with it occasionally
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wow you're still rocking it? You're a glutton for punishment.
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I know. Almost 3yrs at this point. But what was I gonna do? We have unlimited data on our two phones, and get a nice discount through my wife's work. And she travels in places like Kentucky and West Virginia so the Verizon coverage is a big deal. If it was just me I would've switched to T-Mobile already. So, considering that....what could I do but keep the Galaxy Nexus? I couldn't stand Samsung's crapware etc, and nothing else interested me. The new X is the first thing that seems like a real option.
I hope it lives up to my expectations.
My wife is still rocking a Motorola Droid Razr. If you think the Galaxy Nexus struggles to function now you should try her phone....she gave up before me, and she still uses a Blackberry Curve for work.
So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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See I'm not all about specs and hardware, more about personal user experience with the device. Accidents happen, I took really good care of my Nexus 5 but it fell out of my hands because of someone else mucking about around me.
The Nexus 6 is way too big for me. I loved using my Nexus 5 and I would happily buy it again but the Moto X looks very appealing. I'm all about stock android so.
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
When I had my 2013 moto x, I decided to try the Nexus 5. Bought it, it arrived, toyed with it for 5 mins, then promptly put it back in the box to sell it to a friend. I thought the 2013 X was better than the N5 off usability features alone. The 2014 X completely dominates the N5.
Better ergonomics
WAYYYYYY better speakers
Better reception
Customizable
Moto Display+Voice
The only thing the N5 has over the X is the well-calibrated LCD screen.
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Yeah, N5 would have such a hard time keeping up with LTE. I was mostly on HSPA+ because radio pretty much sucked.
I am coming from M8 as well and X may not have the same quality and deepness, but it's very very loud and surprises you at times for being just one speaker. Equalizer is pretty good by default on X as well.
I love the texting from Chrome browser and the X talking to me while driving. Oh and sleep mode saves your screen some energy by not turning it on at all if put screen down or in night mode. Software features are actually useful unlike gimmicks IMHO.
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I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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The Pure edition gives us an unlockable bootloader, because the AT&T and Verizon models are locked down. I'm not sure how it works across the pond though, as long as you can unlock your bootloader than you're golden.
Both are amazing, in my opinion the Moto X is the Nexus 5 2.0
Better specs all around (albeit nothing to write home about it), better battery life and touchless control its superb
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
Exactly my debate a month ago. I've got a thread on here someplace about it. It came down to price vs quality and customization. I got the .edu discount (alumni account), so the difference was about $125 on a 32 GB. At that, the X with a wood back was worth it to me. If $ are tight, I think the Nexus 5 is the best option. If $ are tighter than that, then the Moto G (we have a couple of those in our household as well).
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
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I totally agree that the X feels nicer than the M8. I honestly wasn't all that impressed with the M8. It kinda gives off a "hey look at me, I'm metal" vibe without actually being all that nice. Like it's made out of aluminum just for the sake of being made out of aluminum, for bragging rights, if that makes sense. There just isn't anything special about it... and those godawful bezels, ugh. The Moto X on the other hand is just... elegant. It's very mature, and no part of its design is superfluous. I keep saying it and I'll keep on saying it- the Moto X is the nicest smartphone ever made.
On a side note, my friend just got the One E8 which is essentially just a polycarbonate version of the M8 and I like it a heckuva lot more than the M8. I think it looks nicer and feels nicer than its aluminum brother.
The Moto X is like a Nexus 5.5. Physically a big step up from the Nexus 5, feels premium. If the Nexus 6 size puts you off a great successor. Outside of a Nexus there is no other manufacturer that will truly give you a stock feeling. Is it worth the price to upgrade? Not for everyone, but I wouldn't have gone to any other handset.
The development on this phone may not kick off massively, which would be a shame, but I wouldn't force yourself to adapt to the Nexus 6 just because its a new Nexus device. I'd either stay on the Nexus 5 or choose a Moto X.
If big devices don't bother you though its Nexus 6 > everything else.
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
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I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
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I'm on Nexus 4 and debating Moto X vs Nexus 5 (N6 size doesn't work for me).
I was leaning towards Moto X until I read your comment.
Why are you on the fence? What's not right about Moto X?
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So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
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I had the nexus 5 and hated it. Had great specs but the cheapest design and actually stuttered a little bit with animations.. least favorite phone so far besides the s4. I'd go nexus 6 if the screen isn't to big for you[emoji12]
Hey all,
I have been a moto x user since it's inception. I have seriously loved the minimal bloat and the moto assist ks amazing.
My battery in my 2nd gen moto is shot and I need to upgrade. I have always purchased my phone through Verizon @ the $200 price tag. My question is: is the new moto x worth the $400 price tag? I have looked into the S6 as a plan B. However is the bloated software from Samsung going to drive me crazy since I am used to the mostly stock UI on the moto x?
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Hey all,
I have been a moto x user since it's inception. I have seriously loved the minimal bloat and the moto assist ks amazing.
My battery in my 2nd gen moto is shot and I need to upgrade. I have always purchased my phone through Verizon @ the $200 price tag. My question is: is the new moto x worth the $400 price tag? I have looked into the S6 as a plan B. However is the bloated software from Samsung going to drive me crazy since I am used to the mostly stock UI on the moto x?
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This should be in Q&A or not posted at all. Both are fine phones. TouchWiz and carrier boat are annoying but I'm sure there is or will be development for that device.
MXPE is waaay ahead thab S6. I used to have it but sold it because of the following:
- verry agressive RAM management. All apps are reloading when put on the background
- heavy customisation. Though looks cool but its not necessary, S6 tends to be laggy esp on the themes
- camera is great but MXPE camera is awesome
- Super AMOLED is yay but the LCD TFT display of MXPE has great accurate color. Not washed out.
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I always find it amusing when people come to a forum about a specific phone asking between two phones. A little hint, if you post the thread here debating one phone with the phone we have we will tell you to get the phone that is in the thread title. I bet if you posted this on the S6 section you would get all sorts of people saying to with the S6.
With that said let me break it down. These are two VERY different phones.
S6 is a little guy with heavily customized android. This leads to bugs, slow updates and laggy performance. If you get the AT&T or Verizon version it will be locked down tight with little to no development.... ever. It has a lot of bells and whistles that are great, for example, finger print sensor, best rated camera, wireless charging, IR blaster and so on. It does have a baby battery though. AMOLED screen is very pretty but is prone to burn ins (most of the display units at my local store all have burn in already) but you can't beat the vividness and dark blacks.
Moto x is a completely different beast. Not only is it a lot cheaper (brand new of course) but it has a much larger screen, front facing speakers, near stock experiences with moto add ons, beautiful LCD IPS TFT display, customization, no finger print sensor, a bigger battery, microsd card slot and a decent camera.
I would go for the moto x any day of the week. I'm so sick of skinned android and have been disappointed. I guess a more close comparison would be the note 5 or S6 edge + since you are dealing with the same size device. But remember they will be almost double in price.
But just like any phone better than phone debate... it comes down to personal preference. What is "better" for me may not be better for you. You may want to give these phones a test drive. You have 14 days and you will see which shoe fits better.
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I always find it amusing when people come to a forum about a specific phone asking between two phones. A little hint, if you post the thread here debating one phone with the phone we have we will tell you to get the phone that is in the thread title. I bet if you posted this on the S6 section you would get all sorts of people saying to with the S6.
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I was going to say the same thing, and just want to add the following to the discussion.... see my signature
MXPE > S6
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I was going to say the same thing, and just want to add the following to the discussion.... see my signature
MXPE > S6
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yeah for sure, If we didn't think the MXPE was better we'd be over at the S6 forums right now.
Have most "fun" devices out there, but for me Nexus and Moto with the "clean" android 99% win.
Have both s6 and s6 edge/edge+, but the battery and signal is the problem on them. S6 edge+ is better on battery tho, but weak signal and tw..
Camera on Samsung is nice but does not win over the pure android for me as the last Moto have a decent camera.
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I would go with MXPE. I own an S6 and MX2014...the reason I haven't bought the MXPE is because I felt its a minor upgrade to the 2nd Gen and the S6 camera is superior. I do miss near stock Android....and especially miss not having carrier bloat in which I'll go use my 2014 for several weeks
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
I always find it amusing when people come to a forum about a specific phone asking between two phones. A little hint, if you post the thread here debating one phone with the phone we have we will tell you to get the phone that is in the thread title. I bet if you posted this on the S6 section you would get all sorts of people saying to with the S6.
With that said let me break it down. These are two VERY different phones.
S6 is a little guy with heavily customized android. This leads to bugs, slow updates and laggy performance. If you get the AT&T or Verizon version it will be locked down tight with little to no development.... ever. It has a lot of bells and whistles that are great, for example, finger print sensor, best rated camera, wireless charging, IR blaster and so on. It does have a baby battery though. AMOLED screen is very pretty but is prone to burn ins (most of the display units at my local store all have burn in already) but you can't beat the vividness and dark blacks.
Moto x is a completely different beast. Not only is it a lot cheaper (brand new of course) but it has a much larger screen, front facing speakers, near stock experiences with moto add ons, beautiful LCD IPS TFT display, customization, no finger print sensor, a bigger battery, microsd card slot and a decent camera.
I would go for the moto x any day of the week. I'm so sick of skinned android and have been disappointed. I guess a more close comparison would be the note 5 or S6 edge + since you are dealing with the same size device. But remember they will be almost double in price.
But just like any phone better than phone debate... it comes down to personal preference. What is "better" for me may not be better for you. You may want to give these phones a test drive. You have 14 days and you will see which shoe fits better.
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Thanks for your insight! I kind of knew that I was going to get biased opinions posting this in the moto x forum, but I like what I hear. I am going to keep my moto x 2nd gen going until the battery dies and then go for the new moto x!
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