This is more of a just letting people know just kind of post. I, personally, uninstalled Facebook from my devices in 2012, and haven't been happier. but, many people still use the Facebook app. and for those that use it, here is some info about it that many of us already know, but many others do not http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ok-app-saves-up-to-20-of-android-battery-life
I've been using fast for facebook and I haven't seen anywhere NEAR the battery drain I did with the official app.
hp420 said:
I've been using fast for facebook and I haven't seen anywhere NEAR the battery drain I did with the official app.
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Just downloaded Fast, love it so far. One question though, does it offer push notifications, or should I enable SMS notifications. I do think the web view is a bit slow to start but other than that its good. I like their native part of the app.
I just use the browser. The app uses a lot of memory as well.
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I just use the browser. The app uses a lot of memory as well.
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I use the browser for Facebook as well, I'm even happier using the browser
Harry44 said:
Just downloaded Fast, love it so far. One question though, does it offer push notifications, or should I enable SMS notifications. I do think the web view is a bit slow to start but other than that its good. I like their native part of the app.
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I don't use push notifications, but I'm almost positive the app does allow it. This one is so much more fully featured than the stock app, I can't imagine them cutting such a standard feature like push notifications.
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I don't use push notifications, but I'm almost positive the app does allow it. This one is so much more fully featured than the stock app, I can't imagine them cutting such a standard feature like push notifications.
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Actually, I just spoke with the developer. Unfortunately there are no push notifications do to a limitation set forth by the Facebook API.
Harry44 said:
Actually, I just spoke with the developer. Unfortunately there are no push notifications do to a limitation set forth by the Facebook API.
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That sounds a little strange, since chrome mobile allows FB notifications. Regardless, maybe allowing FB notifications in chrome is at least a possible temporary work-around.
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That sounds a little strange, since chrome mobile allows FB notifications. Regardless, maybe allowing FB notifications in chrome is at least a possible temporary work-around.
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They could possibly not be using the chrome api, and instead using a simple webview. If they were to bring chrome to their app for their webview then it would work.
57% battery, have been opened the facebook app a few times... 2% drain from facebook.
If you haven't had the facebook app on your phone since 2012.... You may not be the right person to comment on it?
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57% battery, have been opened the facebook app a few times... 2% drain from facebook.
If you haven't had the facebook app on your phone since 2012.... You may not be the right person to comment on it?
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Agree. My most rececent charge lasted 36 hours to get down to 5%.
- 3:45 SOT
- 2:19 calls
- Facebook only used 5% over that period. Held the phone awake for a total of 9 seconds.
I'm on the beta using 62.0.0.19.77. Notifications and chat turned off.
scryan said:
57% battery, have been opened the facebook app a few times... 2% drain from facebook.
If you haven't had the facebook app on your phone since 2012.... You may not be the right person to comment on it?
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I had Facebook on my both my nexii at the time, tablet and phone. on my tablet, it was never ever opened. on my phone, it used between 15-25% most he time, with very little use. on my tablet, for months it used 15-40% battery, again never ever opened nor set up. and I have family and friends that have Facebook installed, people who refuse to remove it. so I see how Facebook goes, first hand. I'm more than happy using their website.
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Agree. My most rececent charge lasted 36 hours to get down to 5%.
- 3:45 SOT
- 2:19 calls
- Facebook only used 5% over that period. Held the phone awake for a total of 9 seconds.
I'm on the beta using 62.0.0.19.77. Notifications and chat turned off.
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notifications are a big part of it, but even just having it installed has made my devices run like a gimped weasel....it's a severe resource hog, and removing the app immediately clears things up. There is no way to deny it's the root of the problem when you see this happen on device after device, over the course of 5 years as an android user....sorry, but you are never going to convince me the app isn't the ultimate source of many many issues on peoples' devices.
Try metal for Facebook
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notifications are a big part of it, but even just having it installed has made my devices run like a gimped weasel....it's a severe resource hog, and removing the app immediately clears things up. There is no way to deny it's the root of the problem when you see this happen on device after device, over the course of 5 years as an android user....sorry, but you are never going to convince me the app isn't the ultimate source of many many issues on peoples' devices.
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You are very right. FB and Messenger are both on the top of the worst coded android apps and it is well known that they drain battery like mad. Lucky for me other then my kids no one I know even uses FB anymore.
Always has been a bad battery drainer. No idea why but one would think they would have had it rewritten by now. I despise FB and been far happier since leaving them anyway.
Hm... Removing Facebook app saves 20% of Android battery life but the REAL battery saver to do is delete facebook all together & get back 90% of your life. Think how much battery you'll save not staring at your phone for 6+hrs.
I don't have battery issues with the Facebook app, but I stopped its background sync, and I also don't have messenger installed. In general, social media apps are the worst battery abusers as they typically sync in the background a lot by default.
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It looks to be true. I uninstalled the Facebook app and from the day 1 my SOT has exceeded 5 hours on daily bases. Before, with the FB app installed I would usually get something like 3 to 3 and a half hours of SOT.
Now I just use FB on Chrome and it looks good.
Oh and yeah, the N6 rooks
If you look at a logcat with FB installed it will show you the drain. It is one of the worst coded apps available
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Just downloaded update and seems lot closer now to look like the iPhone one. I don't use Facebook app much so anybody notice any major differences since last one?
yep.. it auto updated this morning for me.. and its much nicer feel to it.. also like the little photo slider at the bottom.
wish they would implement facebook chat though
Much better, only thing I miss is to see who liked smth, option to slide to next picture when viewing pictures(it is so stupid to me to touch next and previous button) and chat
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wish they would implement facebook chat though
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FB chat through the AIM client seems to work fine for me. But yes, it would be nice if we didn't have to run another app alongside the proper FB one.
Has anyone tried syncing contacts through Facebook rather than Facebook for HTC Sense? Since this update I have two Facebook accounts in the Accounts and Sync settings. If I try to use the new one it doesn't seem to work. It offers a new contact link but doesn't have pictures or anything attached to it.
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while we wait for them to put chat on the app in the mean time download go chat the ui is good it looks like google talk
I can't believe items in the notification menu still take you to the mobile version of the site in your browser and don't stay within the app.
Apart from that, I like it.
Partial Wake usage withe the new 1.3 client
Check the "Partial Wake Usage" (*#*#4636#*#*): with Facebook client 1.3, no contact sync and autoupdate on "never" i have 100% usage (on facebook app)
A definite improvement... wish they'd change the horrible icon though.
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Check the "Partial Wake Usage" (*#*#4636#*#*): with Facebook client 1.3, no contact sync and autoupdate on "never" i have 100% usage (on facebook app)
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So do I.
I had to logout.. Unplugged since 6h30 AM > now 2h22PM battery>40%
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So do I.
I had to logout.. Unplugged since 6h30 AM > now 2h22PM battery>40%
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Yep, I've just uninstalled the update.
Would this be because of the 'new notification implementation'? I did, for the first time ever, actually receive a notification whilst I had it installed!
It's using way to much of the cpu, too bad since I really liked the update but I need to uninstall it aswell Battery is more important!
Do people think a fix will come out for this? Surely this is an error, it uses way too much battery!
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Do people think a fix will come out for this? Surely this is an error, it uses way too much battery!
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It has to be some sort of unforeseen thing. I would hope to see an update to fix this soon.
Mind you, I'm not overly impressed with the new features- was expected something far bigger and better.
I just wished, they can have a widget like the one on iphone where it displays the notifications on a corner.
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Yep, I've just uninstalled the update.
Would this be because of the 'new notification implementation'? I did, for the first time ever, actually receive a notification whilst I had it installed!
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Thank god I now know why my phone as gone from 100% to 0% in the space of 6 hrs.
Thought it was the Froyo update but can see now it looks like it's this new update.
Has anybody emailed them yet to inform them of the excessive battery increase?
Yes I have already mailed the developer
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I installed it when I first saw that the 1.3 was released and I haven't noticed any difference what so ever on my battery usage. I don't use any taskkiller so I haven't killed it of.
is there any fix for the battery-usage-of-death issue ?
I'm looking for the best AIM messenger for my EVO. I don't mind whether or not it is free or if I have to pay. I just want a good one. I tried out eBuddy or whatever it was called, but I didn't really care for it. I'm thinking about Beejive but I don't wanna pay and end up hating it. So what do you suggest?
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Best one IMO is the one put out by AOL.
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Best one IMO is the one put out by AOL.
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i use ebuddy, works very well for me.
eBuddy is great. Has all the IMs you need all in one.
I tried all the combo messengers and liked eBuddy over all the rest. Nimbuzz was a not-so-close 2nd.
The only problem I have with eBuddy is it kills the battery, but I haven't tried since I started flashing custom ROMs and kernels.
I tried both eBuddy and Beejive and I happy with Beejive, mostly because of the push notifications. Battery usage with Beejive is much better than eBuddy imho. Did you try the Beejive trial?
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I tried both eBuddy and Beejive and I happy with Beejive, mostly because of the push notifications. Battery usage with Beejive is much better than eBuddy imho. Did you try the Beejive trial?
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Trying now, thanks.
EDIT: Wow, really liking Beejive. It seems close to perfect (better than eBuddy). Handles all my accounts seamlessly and supports Google Push to conserve battery life. Awesome!
Trillian, hands down. Cross-platform, and web interface.
The thing I didn't like about eBuddy was the fact that the buddy list didn't show my mobile contacts since like a majority of my friends are mobile. I haven't tried Beejive trial yet. I'll get on that right now.
Edit: So far I like Beejive. It's pretty legit.
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Beejive has always been my favorite but it's so buggy now it's almost unusable.
The latest version DOES NOT use push notifications, I had to verify that using a packet sniffer for Android.. It's not really saving any battery life at this point.
It also starts up by itself and logs you on automatically on every reboot, even if you have it set to NOT launch at startup...
Aaaand it will not always quit. Sometimes it will, but most times it will actually restart the app and change your status to available if you were invisible :/
Trillian has been great, though. Push notifications are working great, you just have to make sure it's enabled under settings (Battery saver option). It does not look as good as beejive, but trust me, it sips battery and is very reliable
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Trillian, hands down. Cross-platform, and web interface.
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Best IM application on anything.
I used to use Trillian on my computer a long time ago but have been using Digsby lately. The Trillian app looks pretty interesting. You guys have said its easy on the battery but before I pay to give it ****, how is the Meebo app?
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Eh, Meebo is so-so. Tried it for a bit and wasn't impressed with its feature set. I just really love Trillian for two big reasons:
1) Same buddy list, contacts, nicknames, icons, accounts, etc. on web, my computers, and Android.
2) Push notifications for messages help save battery power.
Trillian, I don't care what anyone else says, it's the best. I've tried them all.
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Trillian, hands down. Cross-platform, and web interface.
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+1, give it a try, you won't regret it.
Trying out Trillian now. Seems really solid too. I like it better than the PC version because it integrates more natively with the OS.
My only gripe: how do I get rid of that notification bar icon?
Trillian doesn't seem to auto-start OR stay connected. I open it up and more than half the time it says "Reconnecting..."
What the dilly?
It'll auto-logout after so many hours unless you go in the settings and change that. Plus when it's in the background, the app disconnects from the service and depends on C2DM for notification of messages, and then reconnects to the service when you reopen the app.
As for the notification icon... I'unno of any way to get rid of that.
+1 for trillian, only IM app ive tried that doesnt destroy the battery life. Make sure you turn on the optional "Battery Saving Mode" on in the settings, this turns on google push. Off by default since it only works on 2.2.
I've been getting great battery life but then recently noticed that I hit 50% by lunch (when usually, I hit 50% by 10-11pm, after unplugging in the morning like everyone else).
Then, I noticed that FB was showing me notifications after installing it a few days ago. I tried to find a way to disable notifications in FB, but there is no such option, so is it basically running all the time in the background? Makes ya wonder what Zuckerberg is tracking in the background?
I'm uninstalling FB tonight and see if I can get back the awesome 1.5-2 day battery life I'm used to.
It does drain battery terribly but I don't think its because of notifications. I think the chat refusing to close is causing a partial wake issue. Download spare parts and Facebook is always running. Probably best to just use the site.
I never have any problems with the facebook app. You can disable notifications in the settings.
I cant really speak to the chat problem. I have been signed out of chat since that feature was added.
So if you are having issues, try disabling notifications and signing out of chat. See if that makes any difference.
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I never have any problems with the facebook app. You can disable notifications in the settings.
I cant really speak to the chat problem. I have been signed out of chat since that feature was added.
So if you are having issues, try disabling notifications and signing out of chat. See if that makes any difference.
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Cool, I'll put FB back on after a few days and try those suggestions. I wanna make sure that it was the culprit in my poor battery life.
I just left a comment for them about this in the Market. I'm also going to install it back again and uninstall it from the Market and mark it as Defective, so they get a second hint.
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Cool, I'll put FB back on after a few days and try those suggestions. I wanna make sure that it was the culprit in my poor battery life.
I just left a comment for them about this in the Market. I'm also going to install it back again and uninstall it from the Market and mark it as Defective, so they get a second hint.
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It's for sure the chat....just make sure you stay signed out of it and you wont have the drain issues.
I dropped the FB sync settings down to once or twice a day and that was a huge help on battery life. I don't use the widget, so instant status updates have no value to me and this allows the profile pics to stay relatively up to date.
I noticed the widget causing the most battery drain.
I think i will stick to the site.
New version of the Facebook app just came out. Version 1.5.1 if i recall. Might help those of you having battery drain issues.
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So, I loaded up BetterBatteryStates.
I'm getting some pretty bad wakelocks:
AlarmManager
Android System
10m58s
ChatSession
com.facebook.katana.Facebook
10m33s
^I don't even use facebook chat!
The facebook app is taking up 9% of my battery from using the standard Battery Manager.
Alarm Manager seems to be a common wakelock for others, but for this long?
Any solutions?
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So, I loaded up BetterBatteryStates.
I'm getting some pretty bad wakelocks:
AlarmManager
Android System
10m58s
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com.facebook.katana.Facebook
10m33s
^I don't even use facebook chat!
The facebook app is taking up 9% of my battery from using the standard Battery Manager.
Alarm Manager seems to be a common wakelock for others, but for this long?
Any solutions?
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Facebook has been known to become a battery hog with certain updates they put through. I uninstalled mine because it was using some battery without me even using it. It's a pretty crappy app to be honest, you would be better off using the mobile browser version.
As for the AlarmManager, that's pretty normal. As I know it controls certain aspects of timing on the phone, not only the alarm clock. Someone else may be able to go into more detail about it then I can.
This is the first time I'm seeing Facebook use up so much CPU time, it's really annoying. I can't stand the mobile browser version lol, time to use Friendcaster again...
Alarm Manager seems to be hit or miss. Some days, it doesn't keep the phone awake too long, sometimes it does. I have alarms and schedules every day though, so I'm guessing it controls other aspects of the phone as well.
For now I have the FB notifications and refreshes disabled. It still seems to be keeping the phone awake though.
I FCed it and it just sort of wakes back up.
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This is the first time I'm seeing Facebook use up so much CPU time, it's really annoying. I can't stand the mobile browser version lol, time to use Friendcaster again...
Alarm Manager seems to be hit or miss. Some days, it doesn't keep the phone awake too long, sometimes it does. I have alarms and schedules every day though, so I'm guessing it controls other aspects of the phone as well.
For now I have the FB notifications and refreshes disabled. It still seems to be keeping the phone awake though.
I FCed it and it just sort of wakes back up.
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I've noticed that with some facebook updates they fix the issue, then release another update and the issue comes back, I don't know what they are doing lol. If you've updated FB recently it could explain it, I know I did then noticed the battery hog issue.
I believe I updated it within the past week, but the issue seemed to show up in the last 2 days.
We need a new update lol.
I installed Facebook. The mobile website works just fine. I use the Facebook Messenger to receive messages and it doesn't cause any wakelocks.
I thought Messenger was mandatory but I can still chat through the FB app. Is this a custom app from Samsung or was I just out of the loop and used Messenger to drain my battery for no reason?
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I thought Messenger was mandatory but I can still chat through the FB app. Is this a custom app from Samsung or was I just out of the loop and used Messenger to drain my battery for no reason?
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Not sure but Samsung has added this as a system app I don't use fb much but this is good to know thanks
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I thought Messenger was mandatory but I can still chat through the FB app. Is this a custom app from Samsung or was I just out of the loop and used Messenger to drain my battery for no reason?
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Actually you just have to install facebook 3.5, this version of facebook will you force you to install messenger =) me is using this heee
xoo88 said:
Actually you just have to install facebook 3.5, this version of facebook will you force you to install messenger =) me is using this heee
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Interesting, I have no updates from Play Store requesting me to update Facebook... I guess I may be using the latest version? I do recall on my HTC device that it automatically opens Messenger. Currently have it disabled though - I feel it drains too much battery (does not even get tracked on power usage).
Thanks to this thread, I decided to see if my disabling the Messenger app - if I'd be able to do messages from within the Facebook app, which I had updated just a couple of days ago to the latest version - and it worked! =)
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Interesting, I have no updates from Play Store requesting me to update Facebook... I guess I may be using the latest version? I do recall on my HTC device that it automatically opens Messenger. Currently have it disabled though - I feel it drains too much battery (does not even get tracked on power usage).
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Guess Yes, my one is 3.5, currently ver = 21.0.0.4.12
you can remove your current fb and messenger
and then re-install the ver 3.5, and also disable auto update in play store =)
Does messenger drain the battery too much? I rarely use it anyway. Also when you disable it, do you still get notification for a message?
Overall I do like the floaty heads thing and would keep it if it doesn't really drain the battery.
ozaghloul said:
Does messenger drain the battery too much? I rarely use it anyway. Also when you disable it, do you still get notification for a message?
Overall I do like the floaty heads thing and would keep it if it doesn't really drain the battery.
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When you disable messenger, no chat heads at all.
It does not drain battery when rarely in use however a lot of my friends text me with it and it becomes bothersome lol
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Guess Yes, my one is 3.5, currently ver = 21.0.0.4.12
you can remove your current fb and messenger
and then re-install the ver 3.5, and also disable auto update in play store =)
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Wow, are we that far behind? LOL
I wonder if getting the new Facebook is worth it on the Note 4.
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Wow, are we that far behind? LOL
I wonder if getting the new Facebook is worth it on the Note 4.
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I am using note4 and using a super old fb, just because I hate fb force me to install messenger, and messenger eat my battery. V__V
xoo88 said:
I am using note4 and using a super old fb, just because I hate fb force me to install messenger, and messenger eat my battery. V__V
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But who said it takes more battery than the regular Facebook app? The regular app also receives push notifications, so I don't understand why you think messenger consumes more battery.
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But who said it takes more battery than the regular Facebook app? The regular app also receives push notifications, so I don't understand why you think messenger consumes more battery.
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Let's assume both receive notifications, double the notifications, double the listeners for an app that is redundant to another.
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Let's assume both receive notifications, double the notifications, double the listeners for an app that is redundant to another.
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Maybe you are right. But its also possible that they designed both apps not to listen simultaneously. That would also prevent double notifications.
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But who said it takes more battery than the regular Facebook app? The regular app also receives push notifications, so I don't understand why you think messenger consumes more battery.
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just same other app, it eat battery a lot, once they fixed the issue, the problem is gone.
because I experience it eat battery, so I removed the latest one and install the ver 3.5, now battery goes normal on my phone.