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I know there's more threads around, but just wanted to share what worked for ME.
I've been experimenting with many of the settings - specifically, turning off 'enable always-on mobile data', and playing with the location settings, etc. No matter what I tried before, I was getting around a 10% drain/hour.
Last night I removed the contacts (htc people) widget. It's 5pm now, and my Evo has been off the charger since 7:30am. Down to 78% battery. That's with light/moderate usage. (before, I was seeing the 10% drain even when my phone was completely idle..)
Thought that might save someone else.. BIG difference for me was that single item - removing the htc people widget.
EDIT 06/27/10
Couple of comments about this - my Facebook account has 800 contacts. Your millage will vary if you have a small number of friends. Also, might want to disable the widgets for friendstream as well. This makes a *huge* difference if you're using facebook.. also, the update that's rumored to be coming tomorrow is rumored to have a battery saving patch in relation to facebook, so it may fix this battery hog.. For now, disabling it is the best bit (by simply removing the widget..) We'll see if HTC actually manages to tame this widget.. Personally, I don't miss it at all.. fast enough to pull people up via the search or the phone app..
-mark
are you referring to "friend stream"? or the "people" contact icon on the main screen?
IceCreaMan said:
are you referring to "friend stream"? or the "people" contact icon on the main screen?
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This is also what I want clarification on.
I can confirm this. I removed the HTC people widget yesterday and my battery life today is improved AND it seems to have helped if not fixed my restarting issue
GinjiVitis said:
I can confirm this. I removed the HTC people widget yesterday and my battery life today is improved AND it seems to have helped if not fixed my restarting issue
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Can you confirm if it's the "people" in main menu, or the favorites widget?
The HTC People widget shows up as the people Favorites. This is what is being referred to here.
I'm referring to the HTC people widget. (but - I removed friendstream / Facebook / Twitter / etc quite a while back to combat battery loss. Nothing helped until removing this widget)
Ps - its 10pm now and I've had moderate use in this phone since this morning - down to 40% left.. I would have had to recharge by mid afternoon before)
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The HTC People widget shows up as the people Favorites. This is what is being referred to here.
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ah ok, I assumed so but no reason not to check. I removed that right off the bat since I don't see a point to it.
diomark said:
I'm referring to the HTC people widget. (but - I removed friendstream / Facebook / Twitter / etc quite a while back to combat battery loss. Nothing helped until removing this widget)
Ps - its 10pm now and I've had moderate use in this phone since this morning - down to 40% left.. I would have had to recharge by mid afternoon before)
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just delete the 'people' widget shortcut on the homescreen or the one in the main menu as well???
troyhough said:
just delete the 'people' widget shortcut on the homescreen or the one in the main menu as well???
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Just from the homescreen.
-m
i'll try it -- thanks
hmm..
I dont use the widget at all
i need to kill the "people" service very often... i have close to 300 of my phonebook contacts linked to facebook.. and for some reason this can suck up to 800mb of data in one day..
i want the facebook integration, but i dont know what to do.
TurboX2 said:
hmm..
I dont use the widget at all
i need to kill the "people" service very often... i have close to 300 of my phonebook contacts linked to facebook.. and for some reason this can suck up to 800mb of data in one day..
i want the facebook integration, but i dont know what to do.
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Try having 800 facebook friends ;/
You can set the sync times for friendsfinder /facebook - it may help as well. For me at least the people widget was the missing link..
-mark
(ps - I'm from g'ville too; or at least used to be...)
The people favorites one that comes default one screen to the left or the people icon that comes on the main screen??
Ok. I have a update regarding the friend widget. This is my first day back to work sense removing it and normally by the end of my shift with regular use i leave the office with 20 or so %. Today i am leaving work with 67%!! And zero system restarts. I think this widget has some serious memory holes and its removal has seriously improved my Evo
I will also confirm this works on the Hero FYI. Unplugged this morning at 7:30 with a full charge and it is now 4:37 PM I still have 84% battery. Carazy!
i just removed mine as well, i wasn't using it anyway, we'll see how it goes
The whole service is buggy. My gf's phone took off the other day, constant data and only 3 hours of battery on standby. Nothing helped, reboot, nothing, removing the facebook account and re-adding it fixed it completely, been weeks with no problems now. You might try this rather than killing the service, it's like the account sync goes bad it gets stuck in a loop, constantly running, and once it's bad nothing fixes it other than removing the account and re-adding it.
My GF and I bought at the same time, same revisions, same apps, worked fine for weeks, then hers went crazy for days. Did everything short of a factory default, decided to remove the account and re-add as suggested on android forums, it worked, no problems since. Seems silly, but I saw it definitively work with my own eyes. Battery utilization had the android.process.acore at 2% (but it was the only diff between my phone and hers), once I removed and re-added the account this disappeared. No need to change the widgets, she uses friend stream and contacts widget, all of them, before 3 hours standby, now two days.
Seems stupid but I think sense has some bug problems now that HTC should REALLY address.
Few questions,
Anyone know of a "HTC People" like widget out there?
Has this only been tested with the big 9 person widget and not the 3 scrolling?
Anyone know just how much better of battery life you can get by not running Sense? Aka, Android default, Launcher Pro, OpenHome, aLauncher etc? (Because you'll still have to install a bunch of other add ons to make up for the hole between stock 2.1 and Sense 2.1)
Should I really stop using FriendStream as well and revert to the default Twitter and Facebook widgets?
I've been using my EVO for awhile now and I must say I really do enjoy the HTC Sense feel over the basic Android desktop.
Am I really that "stupid" for using Sense or is it just a giant negative placebo effect that Sense really does ruin the battery life.
I've read a lot about all of this, but this is the first mention of the "People" widget. I've known about Friend feed for awhile but I've kept it anyways.
End game? My EVO has yet to run out of battery life once. I even carry around a second battery just in case, but so far I haven't had to use it. I will honestly say that I haven't quite used it too intensively and I'm always closing my processes, but it's about the same as my Touch Pro 2.
I do a lot of internet browsing, but on 3G in Opera Mini on Google Reader. Some apps, emailing and SMS here and there.
OK, I am really slow about this. I have a stock, off-the-shelf EVO. Can someone just post the steps needed to "remove" the people widget? Does this mean just remove it from the home screen? Is this the large widget or just the shortcut? I have "force close"d the service through Settings--Applications, but is this sufficient?
Thanks!
Just downloaded update and seems lot closer now to look like the iPhone one. I don't use Facebook app much so anybody notice any major differences since last one?
yep.. it auto updated this morning for me.. and its much nicer feel to it.. also like the little photo slider at the bottom.
wish they would implement facebook chat though
Much better, only thing I miss is to see who liked smth, option to slide to next picture when viewing pictures(it is so stupid to me to touch next and previous button) and chat
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wish they would implement facebook chat though
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FB chat through the AIM client seems to work fine for me. But yes, it would be nice if we didn't have to run another app alongside the proper FB one.
Has anyone tried syncing contacts through Facebook rather than Facebook for HTC Sense? Since this update I have two Facebook accounts in the Accounts and Sync settings. If I try to use the new one it doesn't seem to work. It offers a new contact link but doesn't have pictures or anything attached to it.
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while we wait for them to put chat on the app in the mean time download go chat the ui is good it looks like google talk
I can't believe items in the notification menu still take you to the mobile version of the site in your browser and don't stay within the app.
Apart from that, I like it.
Partial Wake usage withe the new 1.3 client
Check the "Partial Wake Usage" (*#*#4636#*#*): with Facebook client 1.3, no contact sync and autoupdate on "never" i have 100% usage (on facebook app)
A definite improvement... wish they'd change the horrible icon though.
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Check the "Partial Wake Usage" (*#*#4636#*#*): with Facebook client 1.3, no contact sync and autoupdate on "never" i have 100% usage (on facebook app)
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So do I.
I had to logout.. Unplugged since 6h30 AM > now 2h22PM battery>40%
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So do I.
I had to logout.. Unplugged since 6h30 AM > now 2h22PM battery>40%
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Yep, I've just uninstalled the update.
Would this be because of the 'new notification implementation'? I did, for the first time ever, actually receive a notification whilst I had it installed!
It's using way to much of the cpu, too bad since I really liked the update but I need to uninstall it aswell Battery is more important!
Do people think a fix will come out for this? Surely this is an error, it uses way too much battery!
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Do people think a fix will come out for this? Surely this is an error, it uses way too much battery!
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It has to be some sort of unforeseen thing. I would hope to see an update to fix this soon.
Mind you, I'm not overly impressed with the new features- was expected something far bigger and better.
I just wished, they can have a widget like the one on iphone where it displays the notifications on a corner.
sh500 said:
Yep, I've just uninstalled the update.
Would this be because of the 'new notification implementation'? I did, for the first time ever, actually receive a notification whilst I had it installed!
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Thank god I now know why my phone as gone from 100% to 0% in the space of 6 hrs.
Thought it was the Froyo update but can see now it looks like it's this new update.
Has anybody emailed them yet to inform them of the excessive battery increase?
Yes I have already mailed the developer
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I installed it when I first saw that the 1.3 was released and I haven't noticed any difference what so ever on my battery usage. I don't use any taskkiller so I haven't killed it of.
is there any fix for the battery-usage-of-death issue ?
From the thread on the Android Apps Forum discussing the battery drain:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744974
davidalves said:
Hi folks,
I'm a developer at Facebook on the Android team. First off, thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have identified the bug that is causing this battery drain and are working on a fix now. As soon as the patch is ready, we'll push out an update. Thanks for the quick feedback and for your patience as we get this fixed!
Thanks,
David
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He only has 1 post, so he hasn't posted this elsewhere. Thought others would be interested in seeing this.
Ahh, good to know that official..
Good news. Looks like the fix is out version 1.3.1
I just downloaded it. Hopefully I'll have better battery life tomorrow.
Holy crap. Is that what is happening to my battery the last few days. ..
My battery had been exceptionally terrible the last 2 days as well
Noticed version 1.3.1 is out now
Update and save those batteries
I had backed up my last copy of FB. Now that the developers noticed the issue and released and update, so will I. Coo'
This may be an obvious answer, but how do we update the facebook app that's installed with the os?
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This may be an obvious answer, but how do we update the facebook app that's installed with the os?
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Market
New update is still sucking my battery. Anyone got a link to the old version?
Edit: nevermind, you can just uninstall the updates by doing it in the market.
I wonder why some people have this problem and others don't. My friends sees the problem on his Incredible, but I don't see any drain on my N1.
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I wonder why some people have this problem and others don't. My friends sees the problem on his Incredible, but I don't see any drain on my N1.
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Do you have the widget on the home screen? Otherwise check about phone, battery info, what's been using the battery and if android os is real high, then Facebook is probably preventing the phone from sleeping.
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I wonder why some people have this problem and others don't. My friends sees the problem on his Incredible, but I don't see any drain on my N1.
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Your friend has more friends and hence more activity.
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I havent had any problems with the new update, but then again, my facebook 'sync' options have never been enabled. I think today facebook updated itself again
I don't do anything with Facebook, but I do have the updated app installed and logged in. About 30 friends, sync with contacts, and no battery drain at all. System panel shows only 5 seconds of CPU time used over the last 8 hours.
Well I skipped Facebook 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 because of the battery drain. Today installed 1.3.2 and in 53 minutes the Facebook app was good for 50 minutes of partial wake time.
(and this is with update notifications set to never, etc.)
Uninstalled....reverted back to 1.2 and now no more partial wake usage from the app!
Having installed 1.3.2 my partial wake time is only 14s since unplugged for Facebook. I've got it set to notify me for messages and friend requests, plus it syncs contacts already in the phone. That said never had issues on 1.3.1.
Does anyone has the version 1.2 apk saved somewhere ? I'm looking for it and I can't desinstall the updates unfortunately.
Thank you in advance!
Any hosting service would do the trick
I haven't had a single problem in a week out of Facebook, in fact only the first day of using 1.3.1.
So, I loaded up BetterBatteryStates.
I'm getting some pretty bad wakelocks:
AlarmManager
Android System
10m58s
ChatSession
com.facebook.katana.Facebook
10m33s
^I don't even use facebook chat!
The facebook app is taking up 9% of my battery from using the standard Battery Manager.
Alarm Manager seems to be a common wakelock for others, but for this long?
Any solutions?
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So, I loaded up BetterBatteryStates.
I'm getting some pretty bad wakelocks:
AlarmManager
Android System
10m58s
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com.facebook.katana.Facebook
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^I don't even use facebook chat!
The facebook app is taking up 9% of my battery from using the standard Battery Manager.
Alarm Manager seems to be a common wakelock for others, but for this long?
Any solutions?
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Facebook has been known to become a battery hog with certain updates they put through. I uninstalled mine because it was using some battery without me even using it. It's a pretty crappy app to be honest, you would be better off using the mobile browser version.
As for the AlarmManager, that's pretty normal. As I know it controls certain aspects of timing on the phone, not only the alarm clock. Someone else may be able to go into more detail about it then I can.
This is the first time I'm seeing Facebook use up so much CPU time, it's really annoying. I can't stand the mobile browser version lol, time to use Friendcaster again...
Alarm Manager seems to be hit or miss. Some days, it doesn't keep the phone awake too long, sometimes it does. I have alarms and schedules every day though, so I'm guessing it controls other aspects of the phone as well.
For now I have the FB notifications and refreshes disabled. It still seems to be keeping the phone awake though.
I FCed it and it just sort of wakes back up.
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This is the first time I'm seeing Facebook use up so much CPU time, it's really annoying. I can't stand the mobile browser version lol, time to use Friendcaster again...
Alarm Manager seems to be hit or miss. Some days, it doesn't keep the phone awake too long, sometimes it does. I have alarms and schedules every day though, so I'm guessing it controls other aspects of the phone as well.
For now I have the FB notifications and refreshes disabled. It still seems to be keeping the phone awake though.
I FCed it and it just sort of wakes back up.
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I've noticed that with some facebook updates they fix the issue, then release another update and the issue comes back, I don't know what they are doing lol. If you've updated FB recently it could explain it, I know I did then noticed the battery hog issue.
I believe I updated it within the past week, but the issue seemed to show up in the last 2 days.
We need a new update lol.
I installed Facebook. The mobile website works just fine. I use the Facebook Messenger to receive messages and it doesn't cause any wakelocks.
This is more of a just letting people know just kind of post. I, personally, uninstalled Facebook from my devices in 2012, and haven't been happier. but, many people still use the Facebook app. and for those that use it, here is some info about it that many of us already know, but many others do not http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ok-app-saves-up-to-20-of-android-battery-life
I've been using fast for facebook and I haven't seen anywhere NEAR the battery drain I did with the official app.
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I've been using fast for facebook and I haven't seen anywhere NEAR the battery drain I did with the official app.
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Just downloaded Fast, love it so far. One question though, does it offer push notifications, or should I enable SMS notifications. I do think the web view is a bit slow to start but other than that its good. I like their native part of the app.
I just use the browser. The app uses a lot of memory as well.
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I just use the browser. The app uses a lot of memory as well.
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I use the browser for Facebook as well, I'm even happier using the browser
Harry44 said:
Just downloaded Fast, love it so far. One question though, does it offer push notifications, or should I enable SMS notifications. I do think the web view is a bit slow to start but other than that its good. I like their native part of the app.
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I don't use push notifications, but I'm almost positive the app does allow it. This one is so much more fully featured than the stock app, I can't imagine them cutting such a standard feature like push notifications.
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I don't use push notifications, but I'm almost positive the app does allow it. This one is so much more fully featured than the stock app, I can't imagine them cutting such a standard feature like push notifications.
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Actually, I just spoke with the developer. Unfortunately there are no push notifications do to a limitation set forth by the Facebook API.
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Actually, I just spoke with the developer. Unfortunately there are no push notifications do to a limitation set forth by the Facebook API.
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That sounds a little strange, since chrome mobile allows FB notifications. Regardless, maybe allowing FB notifications in chrome is at least a possible temporary work-around.
hp420 said:
That sounds a little strange, since chrome mobile allows FB notifications. Regardless, maybe allowing FB notifications in chrome is at least a possible temporary work-around.
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They could possibly not be using the chrome api, and instead using a simple webview. If they were to bring chrome to their app for their webview then it would work.
57% battery, have been opened the facebook app a few times... 2% drain from facebook.
If you haven't had the facebook app on your phone since 2012.... You may not be the right person to comment on it?
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57% battery, have been opened the facebook app a few times... 2% drain from facebook.
If you haven't had the facebook app on your phone since 2012.... You may not be the right person to comment on it?
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Agree. My most rececent charge lasted 36 hours to get down to 5%.
- 3:45 SOT
- 2:19 calls
- Facebook only used 5% over that period. Held the phone awake for a total of 9 seconds.
I'm on the beta using 62.0.0.19.77. Notifications and chat turned off.
scryan said:
57% battery, have been opened the facebook app a few times... 2% drain from facebook.
If you haven't had the facebook app on your phone since 2012.... You may not be the right person to comment on it?
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I had Facebook on my both my nexii at the time, tablet and phone. on my tablet, it was never ever opened. on my phone, it used between 15-25% most he time, with very little use. on my tablet, for months it used 15-40% battery, again never ever opened nor set up. and I have family and friends that have Facebook installed, people who refuse to remove it. so I see how Facebook goes, first hand. I'm more than happy using their website.
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Agree. My most rececent charge lasted 36 hours to get down to 5%.
- 3:45 SOT
- 2:19 calls
- Facebook only used 5% over that period. Held the phone awake for a total of 9 seconds.
I'm on the beta using 62.0.0.19.77. Notifications and chat turned off.
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notifications are a big part of it, but even just having it installed has made my devices run like a gimped weasel....it's a severe resource hog, and removing the app immediately clears things up. There is no way to deny it's the root of the problem when you see this happen on device after device, over the course of 5 years as an android user....sorry, but you are never going to convince me the app isn't the ultimate source of many many issues on peoples' devices.
Try metal for Facebook
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notifications are a big part of it, but even just having it installed has made my devices run like a gimped weasel....it's a severe resource hog, and removing the app immediately clears things up. There is no way to deny it's the root of the problem when you see this happen on device after device, over the course of 5 years as an android user....sorry, but you are never going to convince me the app isn't the ultimate source of many many issues on peoples' devices.
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You are very right. FB and Messenger are both on the top of the worst coded android apps and it is well known that they drain battery like mad. Lucky for me other then my kids no one I know even uses FB anymore.
Always has been a bad battery drainer. No idea why but one would think they would have had it rewritten by now. I despise FB and been far happier since leaving them anyway.
Hm... Removing Facebook app saves 20% of Android battery life but the REAL battery saver to do is delete facebook all together & get back 90% of your life. Think how much battery you'll save not staring at your phone for 6+hrs.
I don't have battery issues with the Facebook app, but I stopped its background sync, and I also don't have messenger installed. In general, social media apps are the worst battery abusers as they typically sync in the background a lot by default.
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It looks to be true. I uninstalled the Facebook app and from the day 1 my SOT has exceeded 5 hours on daily bases. Before, with the FB app installed I would usually get something like 3 to 3 and a half hours of SOT.
Now I just use FB on Chrome and it looks good.
Oh and yeah, the N6 rooks
If you look at a logcat with FB installed it will show you the drain. It is one of the worst coded apps available