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So, I'm new to the world of tablets - the only interaction with them being some light use on my mom's tablet (including rooting it via Iconia Root and installing Acer Recovery Installer v2.54) I was curious about updating via ARI (since she's rooted and being plagued by OTA popups). Back when she first got the tablet, she tried to update and it would stop mid-download, giving no error, and just sit there until she cancelled it (this was before the root). So, basically, my question is: Is it possible to run a stock update (Ie "Stock 3.1 4.010.42_EMEA_GEN3") without having to wipe during install? I have a backup via ARI and also Titanium backup installed but I'd really like to not have to re-install all the apps/set up the homescreen (she's on stock) and stuff. I know on my OG droid that when I installed CM7 I had to do a wipe for it to even get past the boot screen but I figure with this being a stock update maybe it's different...
If not is there some way that I can install an update while keeping the root/system data?
AliceInUnderland said:
So, I'm new to the world of tablets - the only interaction with them being some light use on my mom's tablet (including rooting it via Iconia Root and installing Acer Recovery Installer v2.54) I was curious about updating via ARI (since she's rooted and being plagued by OTA popups). Back when she first got the tablet, she tried to update and it would stop mid-download, giving no error, and just sit there until she cancelled it (this was before the root). So, basically, my question is: Is it possible to run a stock update (Ie "Stock 3.1 4.010.42_EMEA_GEN3") without having to wipe during install? I have a backup via ARI and also Titanium backup installed but I'd really like to not have to re-install all the apps/set up the homescreen (she's on stock) and stuff. I know on my OG droid that when I installed CM7 I had to do a wipe for it to even get past the boot screen but I figure with this being a stock update maybe it's different...
If not is there some way that I can install an update while keeping the root/system data?
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No. If you run the OTA, you WILL lose root. Not to mention I don't have a lot of faith in any device OTA updates. Prior experience, and hanging around various forums, well, you can read the horror stories.
I would advise, if you want to upgrade her OS and get rid of the "pesky" update notifications, is to flash one of the Stock rooted roms available. Or maybe a stripped down version of a Stock rom.
Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
get and flash one of the honeylicious rom from the dev area .. good rom very basic apps.. but has a update to get the acer apps back.. and bunch of other cool mods.. the dev is also . kinda trustworthy..
Giggles.. ok he is kewl for a guy yukeeee guys smell..
good luck .. read read read read before you flash anything and of course back up and back up your backups .. then back them up again
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Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
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Well... if the person was going to do an update to the exact same rom (different version) I would say ok.
But... if you are going to go to a totally different Rom, you NEED to wipe User Data.
Or, does anybody want to tell me you never have to?
3 Wipes. Mandatory when switching between roms, unless you are a dev and know exactly what you are doing.
Or.... you can forget about the safe side of things, and just flash away, and hope luck is with you.
The Market, SHOULD, allow you to re-download apps based on the market version you previously used. If not, it's a good time to clean house of the useless apps.
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No. If you run the OTA, you WILL lose root. Not to mention I don't have a lot of faith in any device OTA updates. Prior experience, and hanging around various forums, well, you can read the horror stories.
I would advise, if you want to upgrade her OS and get rid of the "pesky" update notifications, is to flash one of the Stock rooted roms available. Or maybe a stripped down version of a Stock rom.
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I wasn't talking about an OTA, I was talking about the stock 'rom' updates via recovery. I've had experiences with phones that have been rooted and accidentally updated via OTA, it's not fun. My phone was actually put into something I like to refer to as the Root limbo lol, bricked it for a small period of time - that was fun fixing it. I didn't have a nandroid at the time so I had to start from scratch...
cruise350 said:
Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
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So if I find a rooted version of stock OTA I can install it and only wipe Dalvik? I won't get stuck in a bootloop if I don't wipe data?
AliceInUnderland said:
So if I find a rooted version of stock OTA I can install it and only wipe Dalvik? I won't get stuck in a bootloop if I don't wipe data?
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If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
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erica_renee said:
get and flash one of the honeylicious rom from the dev area .. good rom very basic apps.. but has a update to get the acer apps back.. and bunch of other cool mods.. the dev is also . kinda trustworthy..
Giggles.. ok he is kewl for a guy yukeeee guys smell..
good luck .. read read read read before you flash anything and of course back up and back up your backups .. then back them up again
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Hey I resemble....or is it resent that remark! lol
kjy2010 said:
If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
I can't seem to find any pre-rooted stock Roms on the Developers forum. Links? I know I'm probably being a pain in the ass but I really don't want to get something by mistake and start with scratch on my mom's tablet - if it were mine I wouldn't care. lol
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The link in the post above yours in this thread. Is a link to the rom scroll up one post
Giggles
AliceInUnderland said:
kjy2010 said:
If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
I can't seem to find any pre-rooted stock Roms on the Developers forum. Links? I know I'm probably being a pain in the ass but I really don't want to get something by mistake and start with scratch on my mom's tablet - if it were mine I wouldn't care. lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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Oh my god you rock, thanks so much!
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kjy2010 said:
Oh my god you rock, thanks so much!
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Yw
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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Okay, this sent her into a bootloop so I had to nandroid. I wiped dalvik cache before installing this. Put it in the root of my SD card and installed via CWM in recovery. what am I doing wrong?
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AliceInUnderland said:
kjy2010 said:
Okay, this sent her into a bootloop so I had to nandroid. I wiped dalvik cache before installing this. Put it in the root of my SD card and installed via CWM in recovery. what am I doing wrong?
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I've never heard of the A500 going into a bootloop simply from flashing one rooted stock ROM to another, but then again most people do all the necessary wipes when they do. Did you wipe dalvik and battery stats? That's about as minimal as you're going to get. If that doesn't work, you'll just have to flash the proper way. Instructions here complete with a video tutorial on how to flash by yours truly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390860
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
I've never heard of the A500 going into a bootloop simply from flashing one rooted stock ROM to another, but then again most people do all the necessary wipes when they do. Did you wipe dalvik and battery stats? That's about as minimal as you're going to get. If that doesn't work, you'll just have to flash the proper way. Instructions here complete with a video tutorial on how to flash by yours truly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390860
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Nevermind, I fixed it XD I wiped dalvik and battery/partition and it worked fine lol.
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AliceInUnderland said:
kjy2010 said:
Nevermind, I fixed it XD I wiped dalvik and battery/partition and it worked fine lol.
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Uh huh....you're welcome!
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Hi guys,
The question is as above. How do I update my paranoid android rom through goo manager?
I downloaded the new rom files but I ain't sure what to do under the flahs rom section. Do i have to do a factory reset or do i have to wipe the cache?
I tried updating once without any of these options. In the end, i lost my google apps. When I reinstore it, the expanded desktop function went missing. So I am hoping that someone can tell me the proper way of flashing it to avoid this problem in the future. Thank you!
Go read the first post of the paranoid android rom under android original development. Don't flash things until you read the instructions. Cache is wiped by the rom, and you need gapps with a new install.
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delonicdevil said:
Hi guys,
The question is as above. How do I update my paranoid android rom through goo manager?
I downloaded the new rom files but I ain't sure what to do under the flahs rom section. Do i have to do a factory reset or do i have to wipe the cache?
I tried updating once without any of these options. In the end, i lost my google apps. When I reinstore it, the expanded desktop function went missing. So I am hoping that someone can tell me the proper way of flashing it to avoid this problem in the future. Thank you!
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as mentioned, you should always read the ROM thread completely before you flash.
the correct procedure is to download the updated zip, optionally check the md5 sum to make sure it did not get corrupted in transit [but if it got corrupted, I think CWM will tell you, and fail to even try to flash the zip], then flash the rom, and then flash gapps before rebooting. [if you reboot before flashing gapps, you will have to re-login, and re-authenticate apps like Google Voice, etc].
mvmacd said:
as mentioned, you should always read the ROM thread completely before you flash.
the correct procedure is to download the updated zip, optionally check the md5 sum to make sure it did not get corrupted in transit [but if it got corrupted, I think CWM will tell you, and fail to even try to flash the zip], then flash the rom, and then flash gapps before rebooting. [if you reboot before flashing gapps, you will have to re-login, and re-authenticate apps like Google Voice, etc].
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and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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thanks alot!
Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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OH..I didn't knew it. Thanks!
I am not getting on how to do that
Hi,
Can any one post link to forum?
I am using paranoid android and in goomanager its showing new update available..!
after downloading zip what to do next?
If any one can put screenshot or list step it would be much helpful..
Thanks in advance...
Balaji_NEXUS said:
OH..I didn't knew it. Thanks!
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Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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This actually makes no difference, aside from making the process more time consuming. The few and far between anecdotes that led to this practice are a cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Without a doubt, it does not hurt anything, but it also yields no real benefit over flashing in the same recovery session.
Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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This doesn't really matter, apart from making you have to "Android is Upgrading" 2x.
The process I follow which never fails me is (there may be a quicker way, but I know this will always work):
1 - Download ROM / Kernel / GAPPS etc
2 - Move all downloaded files to a single folder named "Flashing" or something
3 - Reboot to Recovery
4 - Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache
5 - Flash ROM
6 - Flash GAPPS
7 - Flash Kernel
8 - Wipe Cache / Dalvik
That is the process for updating Paranoid android
Updating to a completely different ROM would require a Factory reset and Format
Wilks3y said:
This doesn't really matter, apart from making you have to "Android is Upgrading" 2x.
The process I follow which never fails me is (there may be a quicker way, but I know this will always work):
1 - Download ROM / Kernel / GAPPS etc
2 - Move all downloaded files to a single folder named "Flashing" or something
3 - Reboot to Recovery
4 - Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache
5 - Flash ROM
6 - Flash GAPPS
7 - Flash Kernel
8 - Wipe Cache / Dalvik
That is the process for updating Paranoid android
Updating to a completely different ROM would require a Factory reset and Format
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You can safely leave off steps 2, 4, & 8
Anything you download using goo goes into a folder called goo manager. Just flash from there.
Wiping cache and dalvik is an old wives tale so to speak. You aren't doing a damn bit of good doing that. You can skip it
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Pirateghost said:
You can safely leave off steps 2, 4, & 8
Anything you download using goo goes into a folder called goo manager. Just flash from there.
Wiping cache and dalvik is an old wives tale so to speak. You aren't doing a damn bit of good doing that. You can skip it
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I know about the Goo Folder, however I like to keep all my stuff in the same place, and I download my Kernels from browser so I made my own for Flashing
Why is it a wives tale?
Thanks
Wilks3y said:
I know about the Goo Folder, however I like to keep all my stuff in the same place, and I download my Kernels from browser so I made my own for Flashing
Why is it a wives tale?
Thanks
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Because when you flash a new ROM to /system, it has to rebuild the dalvik for the signature on the new ROM. Android handles this on its own. I haven't checked but I bet the updater-script wipes cache for you also. I have never manually wiped cache and dalvik for a ROM update on my nexus devices.
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Pirateghost said:
Because when you flash a new ROM to /system, it has to rebuild the dalvik for the signature on the new ROM. Android handles this on its own. I haven't checked but I bet the updater-script wipes cache for you also. I have never manually wiped cache and dalvik for a ROM update on my nexus devices.
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Thanks for the advice bud
I'm guessing its still necessary if going to a whole new ROM?
Wilks3y said:
Thanks for the advice bud
I'm guessing its still necessary if going to a whole new ROM?
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When going from one rom to another the only thing that you should do is run factory reset in recovery
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Pirateghost said:
When going from one rom to another the only thing that you should do is run factory reset in recovery
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Ok great.
Appreciate that
Noob question here as well... mind if i ask you before you flash the ForceRom, did you wipe data cache etc? but in what order.
Trying to figure this out before i continue
Thanks
Dalvik, system, data, cache. It doesn't matter the order.
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Dalvik, system, data, cache. It doesn't matter the order.
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would system swipe erase all my previous app data?
If you're looking for a dirty flash, just wipe cache and dalvik. That'll keep your previous apps and settings.
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If you're looking for a dirty flash, just wipe cache and dalvik. That'll keep your previous apps and settings.
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just wanted to know... i've done other flashes on galaxy s3 but this is for galaxy s4 now - wanted to make sure if its was a new ROM for this phone if system swipe is a must
Yeah, the only thing you have to look out for is the built-in default wipes some of the ROMs have. So don't forget to nandroid first.
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Yeah, the only thing you have to look out for is the built-in default wipes some of the ROMs have. So don't forget to nandroid first.
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got it.. working like a charm. All good for now
I currently have CWM recovery, anyway I can instead install TWRP recovery?
juniorr7710 said:
got it.. working like a charm. All good for now
I currently have CWM recovery, anyway I can instead install TWRP recovery?
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Quickest way is probably to download goo manager from play store.
Open it. Hit your menu button. Install openrecoveryscript
TWRP is incredibly sensitive to the touch for our device right now and pretty unusable for most. Just a heads up
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He's right. It's really sensitive. I wanted to throw my phone down the first time I used it. >_<
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He's right. It's really sensitive. I wanted to throw my phone down the first time I used it. >_<
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i'm all good for now... enjoying forcerom > so from the play store grab goo manager and that should give me TWRP recovery, great.
will look into that shorlty
thank you
Anytime. That's what we're here for. Us XDA people gotta look out for one another!
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Anytime. That's what we're here for. Us XDA people gotta look out for one another!
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i'm loving my phone, that's why i've asked lots of questions and how to's.. just want to get everything right on GS4
thanks again for all your assistance.
On my S3 and S2 there where a few super wipe zip files that would factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
This was handy for flashing roms since you would flash this via recovery and you would be good to go to install your rom
Is there such a script for the S4 cause I have been looking for a while with no luck.
I dont want to use the ones for the S3 in case they are not compatible
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Is it really that hard to just wipe manually? It takes a whole 15 seconds of your life!
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thatsupnow said:
Is it really that hard to just wipe manually? It takes a whole 15 seconds of your life!
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I'm not saying it's hard just when you flash a rom a day it adds up. Plus if using twp you simply need to add to the queue and then the rom and your done.
Also it avoids forgetting something for a clean install
Just asking that's all
fidorulz said:
On my S3 and S2 there where a few super wipe zip files that would factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
This was handy for flashing roms since you would flash this via recovery and you would be good to go to install your rom
Is there such a script for the S4 cause I have been looking for a while with no luck.
I dont want to use the ones for the S3 in case they are not compatible
Thanks
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TWRP has a 1 step wipe procedure....slide the bar is all you do. 2 seconds.
sliding that bar does this...
factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
That is why you can't find a wipe script, btw, I looked yesterday for you, was going to post a link, never seen one for g4 actually.
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TWRP has a 1 step wipe procedure....slide the bar is all you do. 2 seconds.
sliding that bar does this...
factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
That is why you can't find a wipe script, btw way, I looked yesterday for you, was going to post a link, never seen one for g4 actually.
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I would love to use TWRP full time but it dosnt support vr themes and I know that will be an issue down the road with ROMs. I don't want to have to follow the zip aline procedure mentioned by teamw every time I download a ROM
http://teamw.in/VRThemes
fidorulz said:
I would love to use TWRP full time but it dosnt support vr themes and I know that will be an issue down the road with ROMs. I don't want to have to follow the zip aline procedure mentioned by teamw every time I download a ROM
http://teamw.in/VRThemes
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The VrTheme engine may require that, but the maker of the actual theme, incorporated the fix, I have flashed 2 of these themes already using TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313635
So whats the point here?
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The VrTheme engine may require that, but the maker of the actual theme, incorporated the fix, I have flashed 2 of these themes already using TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313635
So whats the point here?
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But it varies from one theme maker to another. If the maker dosnt put the fix then it wont work.Some may make the themes without the fixes.
In any case im just asking if this file exists for use with ALL recovery's
All other samsungs have the script zip file just wanted it for the S4
I am Unable to flash Open Betas With decryption as it sticks on the face unlock setup.I used no Verity and if anyone is successful in this plzz help me out .
1. wipe cache, data, system
2 .make format data
3. reload twrp
4. flash whatever you want.
more_than_hater said:
1. wipe cache, data, system
2 .make format data
3. reload twrp
4. flash whatever you want.
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Firstly you can never flash everything in one go and secondly post only when you are sure as i tried whatever i can do.
oh, dude, im pretty confident in myself. i didnt say that you should flash all in one go. and besides, what is your problem, im trying to help and yet you reject it.
oh, whatever, this forum was always a part of lowly craft.
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oh, dude, im pretty confident in myself. i didnt say that you should flash all in one go. and besides, what is your problem, im trying to help and yet you reject it.
oh, whatever, this forum was always a part of lowly craft.
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Thanks but I am fed up trying therefore lil angry and angry with OnePlus camera app .Sorry .