[Q] How to update paranoid android through GooManager - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
The question is as above. How do I update my paranoid android rom through goo manager?
I downloaded the new rom files but I ain't sure what to do under the flahs rom section. Do i have to do a factory reset or do i have to wipe the cache?
I tried updating once without any of these options. In the end, i lost my google apps. When I reinstore it, the expanded desktop function went missing. So I am hoping that someone can tell me the proper way of flashing it to avoid this problem in the future. Thank you!

Go read the first post of the paranoid android rom under android original development. Don't flash things until you read the instructions. Cache is wiped by the rom, and you need gapps with a new install.
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delonicdevil said:
Hi guys,
The question is as above. How do I update my paranoid android rom through goo manager?
I downloaded the new rom files but I ain't sure what to do under the flahs rom section. Do i have to do a factory reset or do i have to wipe the cache?
I tried updating once without any of these options. In the end, i lost my google apps. When I reinstore it, the expanded desktop function went missing. So I am hoping that someone can tell me the proper way of flashing it to avoid this problem in the future. Thank you!
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as mentioned, you should always read the ROM thread completely before you flash.
the correct procedure is to download the updated zip, optionally check the md5 sum to make sure it did not get corrupted in transit [but if it got corrupted, I think CWM will tell you, and fail to even try to flash the zip], then flash the rom, and then flash gapps before rebooting. [if you reboot before flashing gapps, you will have to re-login, and re-authenticate apps like Google Voice, etc].

mvmacd said:
as mentioned, you should always read the ROM thread completely before you flash.
the correct procedure is to download the updated zip, optionally check the md5 sum to make sure it did not get corrupted in transit [but if it got corrupted, I think CWM will tell you, and fail to even try to flash the zip], then flash the rom, and then flash gapps before rebooting. [if you reboot before flashing gapps, you will have to re-login, and re-authenticate apps like Google Voice, etc].
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and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.

Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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thanks alot!

Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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OH..I didn't knew it. Thanks!

I am not getting on how to do that
Hi,
Can any one post link to forum?
I am using paranoid android and in goomanager its showing new update available..!
after downloading zip what to do next?
If any one can put screenshot or list step it would be much helpful..
Thanks in advance...
Balaji_NEXUS said:
OH..I didn't knew it. Thanks!
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Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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This actually makes no difference, aside from making the process more time consuming. The few and far between anecdotes that led to this practice are a cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Without a doubt, it does not hurt anything, but it also yields no real benefit over flashing in the same recovery session.

Billchen0014 said:
and one more thing, flash a new kernel ONLY after the first reboot.
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This doesn't really matter, apart from making you have to "Android is Upgrading" 2x.
The process I follow which never fails me is (there may be a quicker way, but I know this will always work):
1 - Download ROM / Kernel / GAPPS etc
2 - Move all downloaded files to a single folder named "Flashing" or something
3 - Reboot to Recovery
4 - Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache
5 - Flash ROM
6 - Flash GAPPS
7 - Flash Kernel
8 - Wipe Cache / Dalvik
That is the process for updating Paranoid android
Updating to a completely different ROM would require a Factory reset and Format

Wilks3y said:
This doesn't really matter, apart from making you have to "Android is Upgrading" 2x.
The process I follow which never fails me is (there may be a quicker way, but I know this will always work):
1 - Download ROM / Kernel / GAPPS etc
2 - Move all downloaded files to a single folder named "Flashing" or something
3 - Reboot to Recovery
4 - Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache
5 - Flash ROM
6 - Flash GAPPS
7 - Flash Kernel
8 - Wipe Cache / Dalvik
That is the process for updating Paranoid android
Updating to a completely different ROM would require a Factory reset and Format
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You can safely leave off steps 2, 4, & 8
Anything you download using goo goes into a folder called goo manager. Just flash from there.
Wiping cache and dalvik is an old wives tale so to speak. You aren't doing a damn bit of good doing that. You can skip it
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Pirateghost said:
You can safely leave off steps 2, 4, & 8
Anything you download using goo goes into a folder called goo manager. Just flash from there.
Wiping cache and dalvik is an old wives tale so to speak. You aren't doing a damn bit of good doing that. You can skip it
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I know about the Goo Folder, however I like to keep all my stuff in the same place, and I download my Kernels from browser so I made my own for Flashing
Why is it a wives tale?
Thanks

Wilks3y said:
I know about the Goo Folder, however I like to keep all my stuff in the same place, and I download my Kernels from browser so I made my own for Flashing
Why is it a wives tale?
Thanks
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Because when you flash a new ROM to /system, it has to rebuild the dalvik for the signature on the new ROM. Android handles this on its own. I haven't checked but I bet the updater-script wipes cache for you also. I have never manually wiped cache and dalvik for a ROM update on my nexus devices.
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Pirateghost said:
Because when you flash a new ROM to /system, it has to rebuild the dalvik for the signature on the new ROM. Android handles this on its own. I haven't checked but I bet the updater-script wipes cache for you also. I have never manually wiped cache and dalvik for a ROM update on my nexus devices.
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Thanks for the advice bud
I'm guessing its still necessary if going to a whole new ROM?

Wilks3y said:
Thanks for the advice bud
I'm guessing its still necessary if going to a whole new ROM?
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When going from one rom to another the only thing that you should do is run factory reset in recovery
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Pirateghost said:
When going from one rom to another the only thing that you should do is run factory reset in recovery
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Ok great.
Appreciate that

Related

For those who update 'nightly'

How do you do flash the ROM every day and not loose all your settings, apps, etc. and have to re-download and reset everything again?
Or do you not loose all this when you download new nightly builds of CM7?
I never understood this either. Either you can flash over the previous 'nightly' and that preserves the settings and apps or they do a titanium backup of the apps and settings and flash that back on after doing a wipe. Don't know for sure tho.
The nightlys are too bleeding edge for me tho, tend to stick with a stable rom until cyanogen releases a fully compiled version.
I flash nightlies nightly. All you do is flash over the old one and everythings still there.
So you don't do a wipe in Rom Manager before you flash?
tangiers said:
So you don't do a wipe in Rom Manager before you flash?
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Never. I haven't wiped once in about 30+ updates. Phone runs great.
synpax said:
How do you do flash the ROM every day and not loose all your settings, apps, etc. and have to re-download and reset everything again?
Or do you not loose all this when you download new nightly builds of CM7?
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1) download update and put on SD card
2) enter recovery
3) Wipe cache/dalvik cache (notice. Don't wipe data. this is how you keep your apps/preferences/etc.)
4) Apply nightly update .zip
4a) If you're running a launcher mod (other than ADW) you can go to reboot recovery then flash the launcher mod as well to save your homescreens.
5) Reboot.
I don't even do that. Just flash straight from ROM Manager. I also don't backup before every update either. Think my current backup is nightly 15.
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martonikaj said:
1) download update and put on SD card
2) enter recovery
3) Wipe cache/dalvik cache (notice. Don't wipe data. this is how you keep your apps/preferences/etc.)
4) Apply nightly update .zip
4a) If you're running a launcher mod (other than ADW) you can go to reboot recovery then flash the launcher mod as well to save your homescreens.
5) Reboot.
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Exactly how I do it. +1
ScooterG said:
Never. I haven't wiped once in about 30+ updates. Phone runs great.
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But, the very first time you installed a ROM you had to wipe everything?
It's just the updates where you don't need to wipe, right?
Yeah, you only need to wipe when going to a new version of android, eg 2.2 to 2.3
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bazhip said:
Yeah, you only need to wipe when going to a new version of android, eg 2.2 to 2.3
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or... between CM and Gv or MIUI or Sense. Just good practice to wipe when making huge ROM changes.
what exactly is dalvik cache?
convolution said:
what exactly is dalvik cache?
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If goggle "what is dalvik cache", you'll probably get back to an xda thread, except that the first reply tells you to go google it, lol. Don't worry, though, cyanogen gives a pretty good summary of what it is in that thread a few posts down.

[Q] can't install nightlys

I recovered back to froyo from cm7 7.0.3 thinking I would give the gingerbread update a try. After seeing what bugs they had on gingerbread I went back fresh to cm7. I have cm7 7.0.3 on it no problem but when I try to put the newest nightly on it it does'nt do anything. It will download the nightly but when I tap it to install it say it will boot into recovery but dose'nt. I've tried it with 86,87 nightlys and it has done the same thing. Any help would be nice. Thanks.
Im guessing you are using ROM manager. If you are, dont. Just download the nightly zip from the thread on here for cm7, place on your sd card, reboot into recovery, nandroid, wipe cache and dalvik, and flash.
sitlet said:
Im guessing you are using ROM manager. If you are, dont. Just download the nightly zip from the thread on here for cm7, place on your sd card, reboot into recovery, nandroid, wipe cache and dalvik, and flash.
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This. ROM manager, while convenient, is kind of a plague to us. This is because people learn to do all of their recovery based work through it and never learn how to work with the recovery (obvious by the fact that you haven't just booted into recovery and done it yourself, OP).
So do as this smart poster says.
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SoraX64 said:
This. ROM manager, while convenient, is kind of a plague to us. This is because people learn to do all of their recovery based work through it and never learn how to work with the recovery (obvious by the fact that you haven't just booted into recovery and done it yourself, OP).
So do as this smart poster says.
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I have done that in the past. It's just much easier to do it through rom manager. Used it several times before with no problems.
dvrdwn said:
I have done that in the past. It's just much easier to do it through rom manager. Used it several times before with no problems.
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Have you tried clearing the data and cache with ROM manager and trying again?
dvrdwn said:
I have done that in the past. It's just much easier to do it through rom manager. Used it several times before with no problems.
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Well now you ARE having a problem. And it's really not that much easier. Again, download zip, reboot to recovery, nandroid, clear cache and dalvik, and flash. Literally takes maybe 10 seconds more than Rom manager.

Install Kaos droid

I'm currently running paranoid android but would like to switch over to this rom
How would I go about installing this? Wipe data, both caches then flash the latest version of the ROM? Do I need to flash gapps as well?
I did put this in the forums but didn't get a solid response.
Thanks
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Dr_Nacho said:
I'm currently running paranoid android but would like to switch over to this rom
How would I go about installing this? Wipe data, both caches then flash the latest version of the ROM? Do I need to flash gapps as well?
I did put this in the forums but didn't get a solid response.
Thanks
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HI. I'm not an expert but I think that when you change to a new ROM you need to do a factory reset (in TWRP) and some say to also wipe both cache's, then install the new ROM.
Some rom's come with gaps built in and others you have to install it separately after you install the rom. It usually says that in the description somewhere. Many roms seem to use the same gaps file.
Hope this helps. It is the way I do it and it seems to work for me.
Thanks for the response! Im rather new to flashing but in the past I've had no problems. I got the process down, just want to make sure that's how you would do it for an entirely ROM. Thanks
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Dr_Nacho said:
I'm currently running paranoid android but would like to switch over to this rom
How would I go about installing this? Wipe data, both caches then flash the latest version of the ROM? Do I need to flash gapps as well?
I did put this in the forums but didn't get a solid response.
Thanks
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If coming from a different custom rom it is recommended to wipe System Data and cache no need to wipe dalvik if you wipe data and cache, dalvik is only needs to be wiped if upgrading rom versions but usually the rom will do this for you
Even though i posted in thread a lot later than you did, gapps is included so there's no need to download them.
Also just for reference you might also need to wipe system cache and data if the rom is upgrading the base eg. JRO03L to JRO03R which is in v3.8 just testing at the moment
while everyone does not do this, it can cause issues so people wipe and others don't
Also Kaos Droid wipes system cache and dalvik-cache every time you flash no matter the version, it does not touch data at all main reason it formats the sd unlike recovery e.g ClockWorkMod or TWRP formats /data without touching the sd partition
Hope this helps and sorry for the late reply in the thread

Unable to install PA on device

Can anyone help me please, I have posted this on the PA thread but have had no response
I am unable to install PA on my nexus.
I have rooted and unlocked my device via the nexus root kit, downloaded the latest TWRP and installed this on my device. Moved PA and GAPPS to my storage and flashed PA first and then GAPPS, wiped dalvik and reboot the device. All that happens is the ROM doesnt appear to want to flash on the device as it reset my nexus back to factory settings but never installed the ROM.
I have also attempted this with goomanager but get stuck in a bootloop after install
However, I have been able to download and install CWM and CM10 so I know there is no issue with the device.
Can anyone provide any insight as to why this may be happenening
Have you verified the md5 of your download?
Also, patience is a virtue. Believer or not, some questions aren't always answered in mere minutes, as most folks have lives outside of the forum. I know waiting can seem unreasonable at times, but the timespan between you asking in the PA thread and then starting this completely new thread asking the same question was less than twenty minutes.
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You left out the most important step in switching from one ROM to another... As mentioned in several tutorials and posts:
WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET before flashing ROM...
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Pirateghost said:
You left out the most important step in switching from one ROM to another... As mentioned in several tutorials and posts:
WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET before flashing ROM...
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It helps but for the last 3 different roms I've thrown onto my n7 I haven't done that, All I've had to do was wipe my caches.
Eagle1337 said:
It helps but for the last 3 different roms I've thrown onto my n7 I haven't done that, All I've had to do was wipe my caches.
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Wiping caches is unnecessary. New cache is built upon first boot.
You might have gotten away without wiping data if the bases for your ROMs were similar. Paranoid requires a wipe coming from most other ROMs.
Also you run the risk of corrupting your settings and app databases when you don't wipe data between different ROMs
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Looking for super wipe flashable zip

On my S3 and S2 there where a few super wipe zip files that would factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
This was handy for flashing roms since you would flash this via recovery and you would be good to go to install your rom
Is there such a script for the S4 cause I have been looking for a while with no luck.
I dont want to use the ones for the S3 in case they are not compatible
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Is it really that hard to just wipe manually? It takes a whole 15 seconds of your life!
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thatsupnow said:
Is it really that hard to just wipe manually? It takes a whole 15 seconds of your life!
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I'm not saying it's hard just when you flash a rom a day it adds up. Plus if using twp you simply need to add to the queue and then the rom and your done.
Also it avoids forgetting something for a clean install
Just asking that's all
fidorulz said:
On my S3 and S2 there where a few super wipe zip files that would factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
This was handy for flashing roms since you would flash this via recovery and you would be good to go to install your rom
Is there such a script for the S4 cause I have been looking for a while with no luck.
I dont want to use the ones for the S3 in case they are not compatible
Thanks
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TWRP has a 1 step wipe procedure....slide the bar is all you do. 2 seconds.
sliding that bar does this...
factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
That is why you can't find a wipe script, btw, I looked yesterday for you, was going to post a link, never seen one for g4 actually.
TheAxman said:
TWRP has a 1 step wipe procedure....slide the bar is all you do. 2 seconds.
sliding that bar does this...
factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik and clear all kernel settings.
That is why you can't find a wipe script, btw way, I looked yesterday for you, was going to post a link, never seen one for g4 actually.
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I would love to use TWRP full time but it dosnt support vr themes and I know that will be an issue down the road with ROMs. I don't want to have to follow the zip aline procedure mentioned by teamw every time I download a ROM
http://teamw.in/VRThemes
fidorulz said:
I would love to use TWRP full time but it dosnt support vr themes and I know that will be an issue down the road with ROMs. I don't want to have to follow the zip aline procedure mentioned by teamw every time I download a ROM
http://teamw.in/VRThemes
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The VrTheme engine may require that, but the maker of the actual theme, incorporated the fix, I have flashed 2 of these themes already using TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313635
So whats the point here?
TheAxman said:
The VrTheme engine may require that, but the maker of the actual theme, incorporated the fix, I have flashed 2 of these themes already using TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313635
So whats the point here?
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But it varies from one theme maker to another. If the maker dosnt put the fix then it wont work.Some may make the themes without the fixes.
In any case im just asking if this file exists for use with ALL recovery's
All other samsungs have the script zip file just wanted it for the S4

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