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Hi all,
Not seen a thread about this new tablet from Huawei yet. In the UK it is going to be exclusive to Expansys - http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=199911
A quick list of specs,
- Snapdragon 768MHZ
- 256MB RAM
- MicroSD slot
- 7" 800x480 screen (CAPACITIVE!!)
- Sim card slot, supporting HSPA/UMTS
- WiFi 11b/g/n
- 3.5mm stereo audio jack
- 2mp camera
- 2200mAh battery
Now for me, this seems REALLY good, as an alternative to the iPad. Although it is more than twice as expensive as other Chinese Android tablets, its spec is far superior and because it is made by a reputable company, the quality is likely to be much better than the currently available junk.
At first I thought it was Wifi only without 3G, but now that I found that it has, I am not even going to consider the iPad, especially seeing as HTC has yet to make a tablet anyway. So yep so far it looks really good.
What is not clear, is whether it has GPS and multi-touch.
I am wondering if there is going to be a section for this device over here at XDA Dev?
Thinking about it, isn't 800x480 a bit too low?
I've been looking into this as I'm interested in one.
From what I've read Huawei haven't even released the specifications of this yet - it may even have a resistive screen and looks like it won't be available until August anyway!
If you find any more info on it, let us know!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6979170#post6979170
I think Expansys said they will have it in stock (UK) next week.
But yea, wouldn't put money in yet until there are reviews to read.
If you have a look at this vid, it shows a stylus so it definitely looks as if it's a resistive screen.
http://techpinger.com/2010/06/watch-huawei-smakit-s7-android-tablet-hands-on-and-first-look-video/
But the fingering operation seems too smooth for a resistive screen?
Either way I hope we find out next week!
If it turns out to be just a polished turd then, well the iPad will be on the card again...
wywywywy said:
But the fingering operation seems too smooth for a resistive screen?
Either way I hope we find out next week!
If it turns out to be just a polished turd then, well the iPad will be on the card again...
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Yep, it's resistive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQjOMGhuS3k
Don't want an iPad though...
Oh crap!!!
* writes off another device on the list *
She has a nice accent though.
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Oh crap!!!
* writes off another device on the list *
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I'm not sure myself. I'm still considering it - like you say it does have a very responsive screen resistive or not...
Or do you know of any other similar devices to be released soon that have a capacitive screen (not an iPad ) that would be worth looking at?
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She has a nice accent though.
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Yeah, what is it?
The thing is, I have a Toshiba TG01, which at the time was said to have a "really responsive resistive screen", and the reality is that it's nowhere near a real capacitive. In fact even my spare dodgy Samsung Symbian feature phone with a cheapest possible capacitive screen is more responsive.
I wouldn't mind resistive so much on a Windows PC tablet (in fact I have a few, still in use), but on a mobile fingery tablet, it is definitely a deal breaker for me.
One thing that is worth looking at is the Ramos W7. But it has been delayed again and again, and the places that are going to sell it are a bit dodgy... And you know what the usual problems a small Chinese brand could bring. The spec and price point look very nice as a Dell Streak alternative though. I can see myself using it on the toilet a lot, which at the moment an iPod Touch does this particular job for me, if that is not too much detail for you.
God damn it I wish HTC would make one!
I wouldn't buy a tablet with a capacitive screen. Capacitive means no handwriting (with pen), and I want my tablet to replace my old paper notebook. Resistive screens also have much higher accuracy, which could be useful in some applications (like spreadsheets).
My old Touch Pro 2 is working pretty well, despite the resistive screen.
I had a good look at this and was very tempted as i wanted an android tablet it looks very good they say the bad points are
No multitasking and no built in memory,
In the end i went for the Dell Streak and i am glad i did it blows the icrap stuff out of the water
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http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=199911
nilezon said:
I wouldn't buy a tablet with a capacitive screen. Capacitive means no handwriting (with pen), and I want my tablet to replace my old paper notebook. Resistive screens also have much higher accuracy, which could be useful in some applications (like spreadsheets).
My old Touch Pro 2 is working pretty well, despite the resistive screen.
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Sounds like you are in the market for a PC-tablet rather than a media/entertainment-tablet like the one we are discussing.
I have a few Fujitsu tablets and also had some UMPCs with Windows 7 and resistive tech works very very well on them. Not quite the same case with these iOS/Android tablets though.
I dunno there is no lack of competition for the ipad. Everyone and their brother is releasing numerous models. I personally am partial to ASUS and plan on going that route. I heard they will have 2 versions. A windows OS and an Android OS. Heres some other options
http://mashable.com/2010/01/27/9-upcoming-tablet-alternatives-to-the-apple-ipad/
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Sounds like you are in the market for a PC-tablet rather than a media/entertainment-tablet like the one we are discussing.
I have a few Fujitsu tablets and also had some UMPCs with Windows 7 and resistive tech works very very well on them. Not quite the same case with these iOS/Android tablets though.
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I guess you're right.
I would love a linux powered tablet. An iPad with Ubuntu and a resistive screen.
I've got a OQO 01, but that's not really the same. It's too small.
Do you have any suggestions?
Well, there are a (small) number of netvertibles to choose from. Gigabyte's TouchNote seems to be especially popular and can be had for cheap second hand, but Asus has a new EEE netvertible too. If money was no object, Fujitsu does have a nice range with CULV processors.
They all come with keyboards though. If you are desperate a true tablet, Archos 9 is coming out next week... But I'll be very wary of Archos's quality and support!!
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I tried Ubuntu Netbook Remix on one of mine by the way, and in my opinion it is quite unfinished... There are number of problems with device drivers too. Things might have changed since, but I'd rather have something that just works.
wywywywy said:
Hi all,
Not seen a thread about this new tablet from Huawei yet. In the UK it is going to be exclusive to Expansys - http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=199911
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I've just been looking around at this again, mainly because it seems that it's going to be the best available Android 2.1 tablet around for a while...
Anyway, it seems as if eXpansys UK were lying about it being exclusive to them because Play.com, Clove Technology, Handtec and others have this for sale too. They're all cheaper than eXpansys too.
Hmm, still thinking about getting one. Anyone else? Forum on XDA for it too?
Expansys has posted their own (obviously positive) review.
http://www.expansys.com/blog/?p=785
But it is more of an advert than a review.
Huawei S7
So I picked up the Cruz Reader, the Cruz Tablet and the Huawei S7 this weekend over at Best Buy, and the only one that I am keeping is the S7. Even with the TFT as opposed to the Capacitive Screen on the Cruz Tablet, the Huawei is better in every regard.
I will be posting more details separately for each device later today, but for right now, I would say don't even bother with the Cruz devices.
I am really curious about the Huawei Ideos S7. I have not seen much video of the actual retail version that is available now at Best Buy. I ordered a Maylong M150, but have been waiting for weeks for it. I know the Huawei is 3 times the price, but 2.1 with actual non hacked market access kinda seems worth it. I am curious about the battery life, though.
Hey all, my first post here. I bought this tablet and really like it but im torn. I have the Nexus 7 which i carry everywhere since it fits in my back pockets and i also have a macbook air. I have people left and right telling me that i dont need this tablet when i have those other 2. Feeling guilty here now i guess. I want to wait and see jellybean on it as well but should i just return it? I got it at bestbuy so returning it is not a problem.
Also, does anyone elses have a slight creak on the back around where the micro sd card slot is?
Thanks for your time
If you need a tablet with pen input then keep It. If not you are right It is a bit redundant.
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I suppose i should. I dont really NEED the pen function but this tablet just screams amazing to me. I had an ipad 3 as well but i sold it once i tried this thing out. Its gonna hurt to return this -.-
Return the N7
ckentx01 said:
I suppose i should. I dont really NEED the pen function but this tablet just screams amazing to me. I had an ipad 3 as well but i sold it once i tried this thing out. Its gonna hurt to return this -.-
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I had the N7 and N10.1, sold the N7 decided to keep the 10.1.
Pre-ordered the N7 at GS, the lack of SD was a real issue.
Bought the 10.1 to give it a try, never touched the N7 again.
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Hey all, my first post here. I bought this tablet and really like it but im torn. I have the Nexus 7 which i carry everywhere since it fits in my back pockets and i also have a macbook air. I have people left and right telling me that i dont need this tablet when i have those other 2. Feeling guilty here now i guess. I want to wait and see jellybean on it as well but should i just return it? I got it at bestbuy so returning it is not a problem.
Also, does anyone elses have a slight creak on the back around where the micro sd card slot is?
Thanks for your time
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The last time I checked, we still have free will. That means you can have as many tablets as you want and you don't have to feel guilty about it.
you don't need it. but you sure as hell do want it!
Well let me put it this way.
Before I owned this tablet I owned the 7 inch HTC View. A fine tablet. I found myself using my phone to browse the web as often as I used the tablet because honestly, 7 inches just isn't much different than a phone.
Now that I have this tablet I NEVER use my phone to browse the web except when I am away from home. In that light, it may be your 7 inch tablet that is redundant and not your SGN10.1.
Yea i have guilt from everyone telling me to return it, plus it is pricey. I love my N7 too, i just use the otg cable with a 120gb hd when i need it
I havent learned everything i can do with the pen yet but just having it feels good haha. I want people to be able to sign pdfs and write there info in it correctly, i should be able to do this somehow right? Goodness im torn right now -.-
I also have a nexus 7, 15" laptop, and galaxy note 10.1. I felt guilty too but after awhile i realize they both serve different purpose. Nexus 7 is great size for ebook reading and games and the galaxy note 10.1 is great for music listening and watching movies as well as being able to take notes in class for me.
If i had to choose one it would be the galaxy note 10.1 for its overall utility.
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I have both tablets and each has its place. I enjoy using the Nexus 7 for gaming since its the right size to not be too unwieldy moving it around.
The Note 10.1 is great for browsing, movies and music.... The Nexus 7 is also my "kindle" since its easier to hold. The Samsung is my multimedia device.... In fact I have a third tablet (The Acer A700) that I'm looking to sell *cough* since I no longer have a need for it. I would say you need to do what YOU need to do and don't be influenced by other people and have them make your decisions...
Thanks for all the help and advice. I prefer watching movies on it becuase i like the size and the speaker. If i didnt have my mac air this would be a non issue. I just feel i can do everything on the air and use the N7 on the go, but something in me wont let go of the Note haha. I love the touch and pen. Maybe im jusy crazy -.-
Your crazy? This is my eighth tablet ... I change gadgets like underpants. I also have a nexus 7 right now. I've stopped using it since I got the note 10.1 because my galaxy s3 is much more portable and the note is better for other uses such as web browsing and music (great speakers for a tablet and Wolfson dac).
Do other people judge me? Yes
Do I care? No
Half the time I think they are just envious of my awesome toys.
At any rate the note is in the same class as my s3 right now. First two devices I feel are amazing out of the box without having to root and tinker. First Androids I may keep more than a couple of months. In m my minds eye we are at a turning point for android. For the first time we have devices which can go head to head with iCrap and win. Even quite a few non tech savvy people are now choosing flagship Samsung devices over Apple because Samsung are starting to produce such nice gear.
Actually I'm kidding myself. I'll be getting an s4 and a note 10.1.2 shortly after they release. Maybe the next nexus phone as well ... sigh ... so hard to keep up with the tech.
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If you can afford it keep them both, but if you have to sell something let it be that Mac Air
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madsquabbles said:
you don't need it. but you sure as hell do want it!
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Yes, indeedy.
Is there a way to write accurately onto a PDF with this thing? I am a photographer and I would like to use it to possibly have release forms signed on this instead of using prints all the time. I am surprised that a few people want me to get rid of the Macbook Air to keep this =]
I dont play hardly any games on the Android platform really, either on the SG10 or the N7. I just use them for browsing, emails, movies, and reading. But yes, the SG10 is just one fine piece of work.
I do also have the S3 and had the original Note
I have four tablets ..an iPad, an 2 HTC views and now a Note 10.1. I use them all.
I love the 7 in HTC for work and taking meeting notes. It is small and works well around the office.
I have a second View which I like for books and take it with me a lot since it fits in the pocket. I also have 4G on it from.sprint.
The ipad has some cool music features apps like garage band and used it a lot but now with the 10.1 I am able to get all the songs and other content all in one platform. The pen integration is pretty cools as well
ckentx01 said:
Is there a way to write accurately onto a PDF with this thing? I am a photographer and I would like to use it to possibly have release forms signed on this instead of using prints all the time.
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Have you tried the app called Fill and Sign pdf Forms? I have it, but haven't used it yet.
Hello, I am using the Note 2 LTE and the PRO 12.2 LTE. I am planning to buy either the Note 4 or the new Gear S. Sure the Note 2 and Note 4 are smaller than the PRO 12.2. The latter can do almost all the things that the Note 2 and 4 are capable of (can we upgrade the software of the PRO to the ones used in Note 4?). For me, the main use of the Note 4 and Gear S is: phone calls. I guess I can do it with the PRO using some kind of bluetooth headset. Of course, besides having a better camera, the Note 4 is better at photo taking because it is too heavy and difficult to press the photo taking button while holding the PRO 12.2.
I will buy a new MacBook Pro Retina 15". It will be too heavy to carry the laptop, the PRO 12.2 and the Note 4. I probably use the PRO 12.2 for pdf annotation, pdf viewing, note taking, video watching, etc. I may not carry the MacBook Pro 15" as often as I did in the past. I do need the Mac (Mac OS and Windows) for my research work though. The PRO cannot serve as a laptop replacement in my case.
Looking to pick up the Note 4 eventually though I'm not sure if I'll do so straight away. I still like my Nexus 4 w/ Mahdi ROM.
I'm not sure I want to pick up a Tizen based wearable. I just have this personal issue with entering into another platform and wonder what support there will be for it from application developers. Its just another consideration I'd have to make which may not exist as much on plain Android Wear devices. I'll most likely pick up a Moto 360 or LG's round watch though.
When I travel both my Note Pro and my rMBP come with me. I really don't mind the weight of carrying both at all and my use case simply doesn't support the Note Pro being a laptop replacement. My Note Pro is primarily for content consumption and web browsing. Note taking is secondary and productivity is a distant last. It's quite useful for email and whatnot but I can't get significant work done on it other than mild annotation of PDFs.
Probably not. I have a Note 3, the Note 4 feels like a step backwards. (Particularly if the EU gets the N910C with the Exynos. Rubbish.)
I'm a gamer and a designer, so I always carry my laptop(17.3" Asus N76VB) with me, as the NotePro is simply not capable of replacing it. Not because of the hardware, but mainly because of Android. (iOS won't help. Neither will Linux. And the Surface has an Intel HD, so not useful either.)
As such, my NotePro is my entertainment device. Films, magazines, comics, drawing, that sort of thing. My Note 3 serves as my go-to device for most things on the road, as well as an e-reader.
As for the Gear... I'm a Scifi fan. I didn't get stuck in 1960, and as such I will not be spending my money on tech with a 'retro' design. Not to mention, I want Android, no Tizen. Until it starts working and looking like this, I'm out.
Thanks for the warnings about the Gear. The Note PRO is more like a large screen device below 1kg that I could use on public transportation and while waiting for the foods in restaurants. For research work, I still need a laptop.
I don't know why, but I've always liked the idea of making phone calls with my watch, without the need of a smart phone nearby. The Gear S is the most interesting to me. As others have mentioned, the new OS is a bit of a concern. Not to mention how nice it plays with other devices, should I replace my Note 3. I'll be keeping a close watch after release to see how it does in the wild.
I may consider the Note 4 a few months after release once prices settle down, real world results are in, and the other manufactures have released competing devices. But for what it'll cost off contract (i.e. $700+), I hardly see a reason to hand over that kind of cash any time soon. And that's coming from somebody who frequently buys new gadgets way too often.
When it comes to smart watches and Android Wear what exactly is the draw to these devices?
I currently see them as wrist mounted notification panels cleverly disguised as watches LOL. What else am I missing?
muzzy996 said:
When it comes to smart watches and Android Wear what exactly is the draw to these devices?
I currently see them as wrist mounted notification panels cleverly disguised as watches LOL. What else am I missing?
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James Bond.
That's hilariously the main reason people want one; because he wore it and that made it cool, and ever since they were kids a lot of people have wanted one to feel like they're a spy.
I'm not kidding, that was the reason they developed them (employed or not, the R&D lads are still geeks and nerds.(Aren't we all?)) and it's the main idea behind the marketing of them.
Better if it has a camera and a voice recorder.
The exciting thing about the note 4 release is the eventual release of the software enhancements that may trickle down to the other note products. The snap note feature for example or the improved floating window support.
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Note Edge for me TYVM?
Turnover is just too damn fast for me.
Hi Y´all!
Got my P905 pro 12.2. Got my N9005 N3. Don´t really need anything new in the months to come.
Anyway - As the title says. The turnover in this business IMHO is just too damn fast, at the very least for me, to continually keep buying the very latest.
I might just decide to get the Note5. But - on an entirely different matter - I recently found out that the 50 GB Dropbox that Samsung proudly keep advertising everytime they present a new flagship(ish) device is actually a bag of hot air if you bought another device before I knew you´d only get the 50 (48 actually) GB once. I.e. not 48 GB per device. But at the very least i´d be able to extend the 48 Gigs. But Noo - no.
So at the moment i actually consider Sony next time.
Regards
Elo
Understand the frustration there but the purpose of the promotion is to bring users to Dropbox that eventually get hooked into having to pay. In their eyes once you are hooked you shouldn't be allowed to continously increase your free capacity using the sane promotion. Every giveaway has loss built in so allowing concurrent application of them surely can't be sustainable in terms of profit margins. Like I said I hear you, this is my second note pro since I lost my first. .. sucks. .
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Polar67 said:
Hi Y´all!
Got my P905 pro 12.2. Got my N9005 N3. Don´t really need anything new in the months to come.
Anyway - As the title says. The turnover in this business IMHO is just too damn fast, at the very least for me, to continually keep buying the very latest.
I might just decide to get the Note5. But - on an entirely different matter - I recently found out that the 50 GB Dropbox that Samsung proudly keep advertising everytime they present a new flagship(ish) device is actually a bag of hot air if you bought another device before I knew you´d only get the 50 (48 actually) GB once. I.e. not 48 GB per device. But at the very least i´d be able to extend the 48 Gigs. But Noo - no.
So at the moment i actually consider Sony next time.
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Elo
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It's 50GB per dropbox account, once. You can, however, simply make a new account on dropbox. (That's what I do. I currently have 5.)
That is not something Samsung chose to do. It's Dropbox's doing.
ShadowLea said:
It's 50GB per dropbox account, once. You can, however, simply make a new account on dropbox. (That's what I do. I currently have 5.)
That is not something Samsung chose to do. It's Dropbox's doing.
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Hi!
Hmm - gotta try that - Thanks! :laugh:
Update: It worked - Yepiiee - You´re a life saver - Well - almost anyway - Now i can get the Note 5 and feel good about it
Regards
Elo
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Understand the frustration there but the purpose of the promotion is to bring users to Dropbox that eventually get hooked into having to pay. In their eyes once you are hooked you shouldn't be allowed to continously increase your free capacity using the sane promotion. Every giveaway has loss built in so allowing concurrent application of them surely can't be sustainable in terms of profit margins. Like I said I hear you, this is my second note pro since I lost my first. .. sucks. .
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Hi!
Your argument makes perfect sense. On the other hand: Samsung gets a benefit by increasing the value of their product as well.
It therefore struck me as logical that there had to be some sort of deal between Samsung and Dropbox. I.e. so many $ to Dropbox each time a unit is sold. If Dropbox gets an income per unit, i´d assume (yes - i know what is said about those) they´d also have to provide a service per unit.
Damn those assumptions
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Elo
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Your argument makes perfect sense. On the other hand: Samsung gets a benefit by increasing the value of their product as well.
It therefore struck me as logical that there had to be some sort of deal between Samsung and Dropbox. I.e. so many $ to Dropbox each time a unit is sold. If Dropbox gets an income per unit, i´d assume (yes - i know what is said about those) they´d also have to provide a service per unit.
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LOL You're right! Sadly they're silent on the fact that you can't continually apply the credit. Perhaps its there in fine print somewhere and I'm just too excited at each product purchase to see it . . in any case I'll buy the Note 4 sometime before the end of the year and I'll lose the ability to take full advantage of that offer. Oh well . . .I'm not about to go through the hassle of using multiple dropbox accounts.
I wish Dropbox would match Google's pricing (I actually use both but reserve Google Drive for collaborating with others whereas Dropbox I use for myself and family) across the entire range of options. Would be nice to have a $2/mo 100GB option. I really don't need 1TB of space.
Back on topic though the Note 4 Edge looks interesting too. I'm concerned though that Samsung put the curved screen on the wrong product. Having never had a Note/Note 2/Note 3 I cant say for sure so I ask those of you who have - do you think its going to be hard to avoid touching the icons and menus on the curved edge while gripping the phone and doing other things?
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Hi!
Hmm - gotta try that - Thanks! :laugh:
Update: It worked - Yepiiee - You´re a life saver - Well - almost anyway - Now i can get the Note 5 and feel good about it
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Elo
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Happy to help!
It's such a shame to forgo a great device (As the N5 will uncountably be 64Bit and 4G) because of corporate stupidity. Good thing there's usually a way to bypass it.
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LOL You're right! Sadly they're silent on the fact that you can't continually apply the credit. Perhaps its there in fine print somewhere and I'm just too excited at each product purchase to see it . . in any case I'll buy the Note 4 sometime before the end of the year and I'll lose the ability to take full advantage of that offer. Oh well . . .I'm not about to go through the hassle of using multiple dropbox accounts.
I wish Dropbox would match Google's pricing (I actually use both but reserve Google Drive for collaborating with others whereas Dropbox I use for myself and family) across the entire range of options. Would be nice to have a $2/mo 100GB option. I really don't need 1TB of space.
Back on topic though the Note 4 Edge looks interesting too. I'm concerned though that Samsung put the curved screen on the wrong product. Having never had a Note/Note 2/Note 3 I cant say for sure so I ask those of you who have - do you think its going to be hard to avoid touching the icons and menus on the curved edge while gripping the phone and doing other things?
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Well - i´m left handed and use a bumper on my N3. Being somewhat of a klutz i have to protect my device. I couldn´t hold the N4E without almost constantly being in physical contact with the curved edge. The curved edge is on the right side of the phone and looks like an ergonomic nightmare for us "leftys".
For a right handed person your right thumb looks, to me, like the "intended digit". Then you´d have to hold the device between your other 4 fingers and the root of your thumb/edge of your palm. Seems to me it´d be very nearly impossible to avoid touching along the edge. This needs to be tested IRL the phone shape is IMHO just too special to extrapolate or assume (Insert scared whine here) anything.
Edit: And speaking of bumpers - will they even be possible?
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ELO
Yeah my first impression of the edge was it's too bad the S5 didn't have a variant of that instead. The larger note size doesn't seem practical for the edge technology. Also it would be nice if earpiece speakers doubled as normal speakers, hard buttons on front were removed, microphones placed on all corners and an earpiece speaker on top and bottom. With this setup, use rotation sensor to detect orientation so that the proper earpiece gets sound when the phone is in use. Use proximity sensor to up speaker volume when paying media. It surprises me nobody does this, a phone that you can answer in either portrait orientation that also doesn't need speakers on the sides or back.
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hard buttons on front were removed
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No thank you!
Not only will that cost us 10% screen space, it is also highly irritating if you use full-screen apps. The 'hide the notification bar' feature is already highly irritating. (Every time I try to bring it up in the middle of a video, the swipe is detected by the video player first and it changes the volume or brightness before opening the bar. UGH!)
I don't need more annoyances with on-screen buttons. The Nexus can keep those, cheers. Samsung made the decision to keep the hard buttons for a very well-considered list of reasons.
And no, they can't simply extend the screen. It's bound by aspect ratio. No, they can't add it as an additional bar on the screen either, it breaks the ratio in landscape mode.
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No thank you!
Not only will that cost us 10% screen space, it is also highly irritating if you use full-screen apps. The 'hide the notification bar' feature is already highly irritating. (Every time I try to bring it up in the middle of a video, the swipe is detected by the video player first and it changes the volume or brightness before opening the bar. UGH!)
I don't need more annoyances with on-screen buttons. The Nexus can keep those, cheers. Samsung made the decision to keep the hard buttons for a very well-considered list of reasons.
And no, they can't simply extend the screen. It's bound by aspect ratio. No, they can't add it as an additional bar on the screen either, it breaks the ratio in landscape mode.
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All good reasons. I wonder if there's a way to get full use of the device in either orientation without those annoyances.
After soul searching for a few weeks I decided to sell my 12.2. I really wanted a one device replacement for my tablets and laptop. As much as I tried, this just did not fit the bill. I was also surprised at the lack of any development on this tablet.
It is a solid device but needs a dock in my opinion and can't quite service all my needs in one device.
Bye bye 12.2. It was fun for a while.
Yeah I don't know if you're like me but as much as I wish for it there will never be a true "laptop replacement" other than a laptop itself lol. I always cringe a little when new users come to the note pro forums here or on Android Central and ask if these devices would serve them well as a laptop replacement. Truth is they do for some use cases but not all.
Sorry things didn't work out for you. It's too bad about lack of development too. Taking matters into ones own hands by using things like xposed gives some relief but it's not the same as true custom roms.
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So, what you end up getting?
Moderate Replacment ?
Mike02z said:
After soul searching for a few weeks I decided to sell my 12.2. I really wanted a one device replacement for my tablets and laptop. As much as I tried, this just did not fit the bill. I was also surprised at the lack of any development on this tablet.
It is a solid device but needs a dock in my opinion and can't quite service all my needs in one device.
Bye bye 12.2. It was fun for a while.
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muzzy996 said:
Yeah I don't know if you're like me but as much as I wish for it there will never be a true "laptop replacement" other than a laptop itself lol. I always cringe a little when new users come to the note pro forums here or on Android Central and ask if these devices would serve them well as a laptop replacement. Truth is they do for some use cases but not all.
Sorry things didn't work out for you. It's too bad about lack of development too. Taking matters into ones own hands by using things like xposed gives some relief but it's not the same as true custom roms.
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petercohen said:
So, what you end up getting?
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Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
naruto.ninjakid said:
Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
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"Well" is subjective, particularly when it comes to generalized requirements. Take an existing powerpoint done on a computer that has complicated transitions and embedded objects and all bets are off as to whether or not the tablet will handle it "well" if at all.
I'm an engineer so I always err on the side of conservatism so I can't go on record telling you it will fit your needs perfectly. That said I think in general yeah you should be okay provided your specific requirements with regards to office file compatibility are not too high.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
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It varies from person to person. I've used it for that in my last year and it served it's purpose well. (With a Logitech K810). As for if it will work for you, I can not say.
Mike02z said:
I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
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I really like the idea of the Surface. It's just such a shame they had to use a 1990's level GPU. You get an i7, 16GB RAM.... and an Intel HD 4000. If there was ever the definition of a bottleneck, it's an Intel HD. That piece of junk is not worth 2000 quid. Not worth 800, either. 150, maybe.
I require a dedicated GPU for my day to day usage of a laptop (Design/Gaming).
If the Surface 4 gets an Nvidia, now that will be worth considering.
I do no gaming and no graphic design work so it seems to be just want I needed. So far, so good.
I don't think the Surface 3 Pro is advertised anywhere as a gamer machine.
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I do no gaming and no graphic design work so it seems to be just want I needed. So far, so good.
I don't think the Surface 3 Pro is advertised anywhere as a gamer machine.
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I know. And if you're happy with it, don't let me stop you. (no really, I mean it. This is just my opinion, you don't need my opinion to enjoy your device )
I just don't think it's worth the price it sells for. Not in terms of hardware.
My laptop has an IntelHD 4000 and an Nvidia 740M. (That requires some managing as a gamer.) Inside is the same range of an i7 and 16GB RAM. When I select the IntelHD as the device to play a 2k film, it freezes every few minutes, botches up the render of several shot switches and if it's 4K, simply doesn't even get past the very first frame. The sound plays, but the video simply can't be rendered.
That's how weak an Intel HD is. Now tell me, is that worth 800 quid? Let alone 2000?
I like the idea, I really, really do. And if they add an Nvidia, I will absolutely buy the top-tier one.
But I can't understand why people would pay so much for such outdated and lousy tech.(But then, I feel the same about Apple users.) Or why companies are so utterly stupid in adding them. It's bloody difficult to even find a decent laptop below 8000 quid that doesn't have one of those useless Intel HD's. Intel HD should've been banned from the market year ago since the Family 4.
I recently had the Surface Pro 3 and it really was a solid device. I actually returned my Wi-Fi GNP12.2 to get it. But for what it cost, I really expected more. That device needs broadwell. Thermal issues and such really prevent you from taking advantage of it's higher potential performance capability. It ended up being a basic media and light productivity device, for which I found the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 to be fully capable of doing, for considerably less money.
I decided to go back to the GNP12.2, except this time I went with the SM-P907A as my "small notebook replacement" device. Add in the solid Samsung keyboard case, S Mouse, and I'm ready to roll. The Snapdragon still does it's thing better than the Exynos, I've got LTE everywhere (love that feature), and with the right apps, it really has been able to do everything I need out a portable computing device. I mean, it's light, excellent battery life, crisp screen... the list goes on.
Keeping in mind, I do have a more powerful 15" Ultrabook and high-end fixed workstation for more demanding tasks. But for the day-to-day mobile stuff, it's been working great for me. Well, at least until something more interesting comes along. With that said, I do agree it's not for everybody. Nothing ever is. But probably at least worth giving a shot for many. Either way, good luck! :good:
Mike02z said:
I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
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Hey man I am in the same boat. I just went through Dell Venue 8 pro-->11 pro--> Note 10.1 2014--> note pro 12.2. All in the matter of like a month.....
I have this to say about them all.
Dell venue series I bought out of a desire to try and stay cheap but still have an active digitizer. I am trying to digitize all of my notes for my masters program so that when I write my thesis it will all be accessible in one place. Venue 8 was too small, 10 was underpowered and the active digitizer on both was crap, I mean really bad. The note 10.1 was great but I wanted some more real estate so I went with the 12.2 for a week or so. Since it is the thread I am writing in I will make a few observations
1. Great tab overall, well powered but overwhelmed by Samsung TW UI, easy to take care of with root/greenify and what not.
2. For importing the pdfs and ppts from lecture it just took forever, I played with some different note taking apps and I always ended up with the S-pen app which is awesome, but it would not handle my 1000+ page books at all. I don't know how long I waited for snote to import it and then it crashed. What a shame because it was a champ otherwise.
3. One thing both the notes had for me was the multiwindow function, watch a lecture and take notes at the same time, but I noticed when I was streaming lectures that were in HD I would get some lags from the Snore and Spen. Again shame because I know the tab has the power to run it but I am guessing that its the TW issues again.
4. Why I ended up going elsewhere.(surface 3 i3)
- I want to get rid of carrying around my old 09 MBP and become a little more streamlined. I am relinquishing my MBP to be a home desktop/server since I dropped an extra 4gigs of ram and a 1TB HD in it through the years. This tab just didn't do it for me. It was soooooooo soooooo close but it just didn't quite get there from a productivity standpoint FOR ME.
5. I am a flashaholic with my phone sooooooo having something to run Odin/LGflashtool on when I am on the go would be nice so that I don't have to worry about ending up in bootloops and not have a phone the rest of the day.
Note to Samsung if you are reading this.
First, bravo on a great tab, seriously it is an awesome machine but
Second, get out of the way of the android experience a little(read a lot) more and let the hardware shine. I would love to see the android L update on this tab with a minimized TW UI so that you can really see the beast that is in the tablet.
I have gone from cheap to some of the best hybrid tablets you can go and I have this to say. The Note pro may be for you because its awesome but know what you need and what you don't. If you are trying to replace a laptop then the Note pro may not be for you unless you are talking about partial replacement to just carry around during the day and then use the big laptop back home, it may work then. BUT, if you want a true laptop replacement, like leave your old one to collect dust it may not be right for you.
Just trying to prevent so many open box items at my local best buy........
-Ice3186
I too use this tablet for school and for the price ($416 on ebay) it's a miracle device. I tried the surface pro 3 and the handwriting was not as good which was a deal breaker for at its price ($999 for the i5). I chose to just acept that ill have to carry around my toshiba a little while longer. snote is a underpowered app with frustrating lag when navigating through different ui but still the best there is. As a side note, I'm not sure why to would want to import pdfs into it when you can multi window them in a reader.
Tsk_Tsk_Tsk said:
I too use this tablet for school and for the price ($416 on ebay) it's a miracle device. I tried the surface pro 3 and the handwriting was not as good which was a deal breaker for at its price ($999 for the i5). I chose to just acept that ill have to carry around my toshiba a little while longer. snote is a underpowered app with frustrating lag when navigating through different ui but still the best there is. As a side note, I'm not sure why to would want to import pdfs into it when you can multi window them in a reader.
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Even as a power user, I have had no problem using the NP12.2 as a primary enterprise device. I travel a lot for business, do presentations and lecturing and so forth. My demands are quite high and I have loved the 12.2. On the occasion that I have needed something more powerful, the use of one of the remote apps (I like PhoneMyPC and have used it for years) works just fine as long as I keep my laptop at home, powered on, and connected to the internet. Then, when I need a file or something from the PC, well... that is what Dropbox is for. Couple the NP12.2 with a bluetooth keyboard case (and mouse if you need it) and it has been the best tablet that I have ever used, and I owned the first 10.1 android tablet two days after it came out.
and I'll join you folks as a proud owner of Nexus 9 ordered via Best Buy with free expedited shipping.
Story goes like this:
I traded in my iPad 3 (bought on release date) which I completely shattered the screen, ordered replacement parts via amazon for $15. Watched a couple of tutorials and replaced the screen to my surprised, it looked like the pros just did it haha I know. Traded it into BB for almost $200, put that toward the N9, then price matched to Amazon of $349 price.
I hate the slow iPad specially opening the App Store, there is a delay of probably ~ 4 seconds, and with N9 the 64-bit is like future-proof for at least a couple of years down the road.
Anyway, looking to use the N9 soon!
vboyz103 said:
and I'll join you folks as a proud owner of Nexus 9 ordered via Best Buy with free expedited shipping.
Story goes like this:
I traded in my iPad 3 (bought on release date) which I completely shattered the screen, ordered replacement parts via amazon for $15. Watched a couple of tutorials and replaced the screen to my surprised, it looked like the pros just did it haha I know. Traded it into BB for almost $200, put that toward the N9, then price matched to Amazon of $349 price.
I hate the slow iPad specially opening the App Store, there is a delay of probably ~ 4 seconds, and with N9 the 64-bit is like future-proof for at least a couple of years down the road.
Anyway, looking to use the N9 soon!
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That's great to hear especially from an iPad 3 owner. I'm actually in the same situation as you are but I would love to know how you're faring with it so far. How's the comparison between that shift from iOS to android? Would love to hear back from you!
ElementalXY said:
That's great to hear especially from an iPad 3 owner. I'm actually in the same situation as you are but I would love to know how you're faring with it so far. How's the comparison between that shift from iOS to android? Would love to hear back from you!
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As of right now, I don't have the N9 yet, but you don't have to wait for me to get it to hear my feedback. I have always been an Android fan, but kept an open mind about iOS but then I bought it to see how much I can tweak (even jailbroken) but became very disappointed. I then handed it to a relative to use until now. So to me shifting from iOS (being used both iPad and iPhone), I don't think it'll be a shocker for me cuz I own a N5 right now and love every bit of it.
So hope this helps, and my opinion is obviously biased toward Android.
Recommend if you are new to Android to remember the Android O/S can be customized much more that iOS.
Look around try things out, but go slow do not go crazy.
As far as the N9 being the future, could be but also keep in mind it is early, not much has been developed yet.
I went from iOS to Android myself and never regretted it.
Welcome!
Received the white version today. This thing looks amazing, I'm not sure what are the complaints about but man screen is good, sound is superb, hooked up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to it and works great. Definitely a good tablet I think specially with the price I paid for.
vboyz103 said:
Received the white version today. This thing looks amazing, I'm not sure what are the complaints about but man screen is good, sound is superb, hooked up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to it and works great. Definitely a good tablet I think specially with the price I paid for.
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It will only get better.
Loving mine so far! 32gb white
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All do not know where is best to post this so I am here.
Have the white 32 gig. all has been well with little light bleed, when I actually found out how to see it. I have had mine for 3 months ish.
But in thinking of getting this as a gift for my son, I come to the conclusion no and might not recommend this for two reasons.
1. I have the 32 gig as noted and am running out of disk drive space and have not even loaded tunes yet. I have bought a wireless usb and will be messing with that but still the inability to use a microusb memory is not good., Memory is a huge limiting factor. What were they thinking?
2. The lack of mircast. My sound silly but means I and not use in the classroom and going to a relative's house over the holidays can not project to their tvs. OK I have the chromcast but why should I have to bring this and it is abit lame? Portability and ability to share very limited. what were they thinking?
3. Ok I said two but the third is inking. Did buy a jot pen but not great. So editing and of class classroom use nill. To be honest they were not thinking of this unit as anything more than an entertainment system, which I do not do. For me I wanted to be able to use Polaris Office which functions that I need was in the new android but with no projection capabilities for the class room, well bummer.
So I am disappointed in Goolge to bring out potentially a killier and then dumbing it down.. I will not be getting rid of mine but I can not recommend it for the above reasons.
I am open ears to the errors in my ways. Please do comment I want to learn.
I am not in the habit of posting negative posts and only doing so because of disappointment.
dave
dtl said:
All do not know where is best to post this so I am here.
Have the white 32 gig. all has been well with little light bleed, when I actually found out how to see it. I have had mine for 3 months ish.
But in thinking of getting this as a gift for my son, I come to the conclusion no and might not recommend this for two reasons.
1. I have the 32 gig as noted and am running out of disk drive space and have not even loaded tunes yet. I have bought a wireless usb and will be messing with that but still the inability to use a microusb memory is not good., Memory is a huge limiting factor. What were they thinking?
2. The lack of mircast. My sound silly but means I and not use in the classroom and going to a relative's house over the holidays can not project to their tvs. OK I have the chromcast but why should I have to bring this and it is abit lame? Portability and ability to share very limited. what were they thinking?
3. Ok I said two but the third is inking. Did buy a jot pen but not great. So editing and of class classroom use nill. To be honest they were not thinking of this unit as anything more than an entertainment system, which I do not do. For me I wanted to be able to use Polaris Office which functions that I need was in the new android but with no projection capabilities for the class room, well bummer.
So I am disappointed in Goolge to bring out potentially a killier and then dumbing it down.. I will not be getting rid of mine but I can not recommend it for the above reasons.
I am open ears to the errors in my ways. Please do comment I want to learn.
I am not in the habit of posting negative posts and only doing so because of disappointment.
dave
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Its not a negative post, its your experience with the product....if anything thanks for being honest.
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Its not a negative post, its your experience with the product....if anything thanks for being honest.
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Thank you I appreciate you comment.
Well actually as I thought about it maybe I was not honest . I mentioned that I did not do entertainment. Well lets see. I control my TV, Receiver, Blueray Player. I change channels using the Xfinityapp. I read PDFs for work and newspapers and magazines. I control my cameras and use it for navigation (Sygic very good BTW). Use it to look at stars. I do emails, calendar, web stuff. So I guess I do entertainment. I was thinking gaming when I wrote my opinion.
I have a Surface Pro 3 that I can use mircast as well as Chromcast, works fantastic in classes, inks amazingly so I have what I need.
I have been an android user (rooted HP Touch Pad, Rooted HTC HD2 phone, Samsung note 10.1. etc.) so the N9 came out.. What I do like about the N9 is the form factor (super for travel). It is a great size and with my uses above I am not about to get rid of it. Just the bit of disappointment in certain features.
thanks again.
dave