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So I was just wondering what is the overall feeling about this tablet? I'm thinking about getting it and i was just wondering if everyone likes it or if its 50/50 or what?
I've owned the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Acer Iconia, Motorola Xoom, and the Transformer. I can say that the Transformer is the best tablet for the money on the market. It's not as sexy as the Galaxy, but it's more functional, far more flexible, and a hell of a lot cheaper.
Always hard to get objective views on a product specific forum.
I'm in a love/hate relationship with it at the moment. I love the form factor and the functionality. I hate the lack of tablet optimized apps/games and the awful build quality.
To me, it feels like a beta product. This isn't a bad thing per-se as I like to tinker.
I like mine a lot, and its definatley the best bang for your buck Honeycomb tablet out there right now. Although I do wish it had the form factor / looks of the Galaxy 10.1, the HDMI out and Micro SD card slot are oh so nice to have, especially for $100 less
The build quality and lightbleed issues are the only downsides to the tablet in my opinion. I got one with a few creaks in the back and some light bleed, but I just look past it. Its not enough for me to sell or go through ASUS to replace it. Still works great for me. Also, not all of the tablets have this, and Im hoping the newer builds have been fixed.
If your thinking about getting one, I would definatley consider it. Great tablet and a great price right now.
Other big plus is that Asus is really quick at getting the Honeycomb updates out. We've got Honeycomb 3.2 already which is great.
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Always hard to get objective views on a product specific forum.
I'm in a love/hate relationship with it at the moment. I love the form factor and the functionality. I hate the lack of tablet optimized apps/games and the awful build quality.
To me, it feels like a beta product. This isn't a bad thing per-se as I like to tinker.
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I definitely feel like im a beta tester, but I dont really consider it a bad thing. I enjoy using new equipment and working out kinks. Just wish i didnt have to pay so much for it . That being said, a lot of the kinks are worked out now from my experience.
Keyboard lag is gone. Havnt had a sleep of death since the first update. Everythings running a lot smoother with the last firmware update.
Its replaced my laptop in class more or less completely. I use evernote and ezpdf to take notes and its wonderful.
do you use any of the attachments?
I got a Transformer and didn't regret, that I bought it. I got it without dock, because I only wanted a nice tablet ... for everything else I have an i7 notebook with 6 GB RAM.
If I can recommend it? Maybe ... depends on what you want to do with it.
Regarding quality control ... it's the fortune of the early adopter nowadays to be a beta tester. Example: I also got me a Galaxy S2 and though I'm very happy with it, the S2 forum here at XDA is full of complaints about QC.
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do you use any of the attachments?
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The keyboard is the big attachment and its really the selling point of the tablet. If you anticipate ever using it then the TF is the way to go, if you dont anticipate ever using it then you could be happy with the Samsung, albeit with no SD card and costing a lot more.
The TF has a great screen, its flexible and its cheap. Its not built as well as an ipad (or the other android tablets) but I havent had any functional issues with its built, its not like its breaking on me. Its just you can feel the difference in the "tightness" between the two.
Being said I ended up buying a second for the girlfriend, tired of her constantly using mine.
I got mine in the first batch to come out- from TD. I have had no real issues accept a tiny light bleed- build quality is great for mine. no creaking etc.
It has done everything i ask of it and thrown at it. I use mine for about 70% work related with notes at meeting, signatures on contracts, email, polaris app etc. Even skype calling..
Constantly listening to music watching movies etc. Never had any issues with Battery usage.
I think it has gotten better with each update. Yes little bugs here and there after an update ut usually fixed or have work around within 24 hours. That stuff doesnt bother me.
I never got the keyboard because i felt it was an option that i would never really use so i invested in a nice case- ( PDAIR ) I love the concept of the keyboard but just wasn;t going to use itand did no need the extra bulk.
For me never needed to root it yet (maybe down the road ) but for now it is great as stock.
Last thing i will say is there have been alot of new choices out since i have bought it... yes they might have had a thing or 2 that the TF did not have but i never have second guessed my choice.
Good luck.
Well you get 16hrs of battery life with the dock. No other tablet has this kind of a feature at this price point.
The screen quality and responsiveness is in the top quartile of tablets released so far.
I am pretty happy with my purchase. 10x better build quality than the Archos 101 I purchased earlier!
I absolutely love my TF, probably best 399$ I have ever spent on gadget, mine also comes with some light bleed, other than that, build quality is great. Have 2 Ipad2 in the house and they both have worst light bleed.
Would I suggest this tablet to a friend over other Android tablet? Yes, best tablet in the market IMO.
Over an Ipad2? Probably not unless someone familiar with Android and a geek just like me...
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I got mine in the first batch to come out- from TD. I have had no real issues accept a tiny light bleed- build quality is great for mine. no creaking etc.
It has done everything i ask of it and thrown at it. I use mine for about 70% work related with notes at meeting, signatures on contracts, email, polaris app etc. Even skype calling..
Constantly listening to music watching movies etc. Never had any issues with Battery usage.
I think it has gotten better with each update. Yes little bugs here and there after an update ut usually fixed or have work around within 24 hours. That stuff doesnt bother me.
I never got the keyboard because i felt it was an option that i would never really use so i invested in a nice case- ( PDAIR ) I love the concept of the keyboard but just wasn;t going to use itand did no need the extra bulk.
For me never needed to root it yet (maybe down the road ) but for now it is great as stock.
Last thing i will say is there have been alot of new choices out since i have bought it... yes they might have had a thing or 2 that the TF did not have but i never have second guessed my choice.
Good luck.
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
I got my U.S. Transformer a few weeks ago, and I enjoy using it very much:
With my PC, most of the time is spent going on the Web, so on the Transformer I just set up bookmarks for my most frequently visited sites in both the stock browser and the Dolphin for Pad (downloaded from the Market) browser and that takes care of my usual browsing needs. Email is now handled through the stock Gmail app, so again most of that can be done on the Transformer side.
For music, I've started using Google Music to upload my stuff, so I can just stream down to my Transformer through WiFi. For videos, I had already encoded a lot of stuff to MP4 format using Handbrake to play on my phone. But with ES File Explorer installed on my Transformer, I can now keep those MP4 files on my networked server and then stream them to the stock video player. This all works great and takes up no local storage.
Games that I had on my smartphone are all installed onto the Transformer and work fine. I've also found that classic game console emulators work quite well on the Transformer.
If I'm desperate to watch Hulu or Netflix (without any hacked or rooted methods), the MyCloud > My Desktop > SplashTop method works acceptably well.
Painting with SketchBook Pro is quite fun with this fantastic paid app, and I'm looking into various do-it-yourself stylus methods to enhance the experience.
I haven't had the need yet to use Polaris Office yet, but after reading user reviews, it looks to be a very capable Office app when compared with other non-free competitors, and I actually appreciate Asus for giving this for us.
The build quality, in my opinion, is quite nice. I don't have any LCD light bleed issues. The LCD itself is great with fantastic viewing angles. The built-in speakers are surprisingly loud. The touch screen is very responsive. And the textured plastic back panel keeps the whole unit lighter and gives it a nice feel.
The only negatives I have are:
Camera - absolutely terrible, especially when using indoor lighting. But I already know that the video and photo taking experience on almost all tablets is not good anyway, so I never expected much. I almost never use the stock camera app. I have Vignette installed on my Transformer for the heck of it, but this rarely gets used either. I leave picture taking to my digital camera and my smartphone.
Browser - for some sites, I get slowdowns with both the stock browser and Dolphin for Pad. With Android 3.1, I experienced quite a bit of force closings with the stock browser. It's improved with 3.2, but it still happens. I find it hard to believe that Google makes such a good browser as Chrome but has such a mediocre one for Honeycomb.
Linux support - the only thing I ask for is the simplicity of plugging my Transformer into my Linux PC and have access to its SD and MicroSD cards. But I have to jump through the hoop of running a few lines in Terminal just to get those drives mounted and unmounted. It's a pain, and I wish it was as easy as the Windows experience.
Since using my Transformer more and more, my smartphone has pretty much been relegated back to being just a phone which is fine. This morning I began charging my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 once it dropped to 1% battery power...and it had been running on that one full charge for 174-hours-33-minutes! I'll still use the phone for navigation and portable music after I get over the honeymoon period with the Transformer, but right now using my smart phone just isn't the same any more.
So since I've gotten the Transformer, I've made a conscious effort to reduce using my PC and my smartphone, and it's worked out great as a personal computing device. For a business environment, there might not be enough apps to support various needs just yet, but it'll get there, I'm sure. The Transformer is a very good bang-for-the-buck kind of device, and I have no regrets about having it.
Enjoy my tablet a great deal. I actually use it more than i thought i would. Im constantly looking for new apps that will make this into my swiss army knife.
I use splashtop a lot, and now added a Wake on Lan app which now has got me the bright idea to go out and purchase a home server...lol
build quality is definitely not the greatest. Personally, i dont think it compares to the newer tablets coming out. (build)
Dont own the keyboard. Im waiting for a good deal down the road when it drop to around $100. by then, i figure, ill give the TF to my wife (with a keyboard), and ill jump on to the newest tablet. (maybe TF2)
Im a first time android/tablet buyer and user, so i came with no expectations..
Ill know what to look for in my next purchase though.
(so, i guess im a beta tester)
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
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There are applications that let you fill out and/or sign PDF files. Adobe also has an app that converts things to PDF. Ive used my TF to fill out forms and sign them multiple times.
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
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There are alot of choices for this. I use Repligo PDF and love it.After i sign or client signs,on the TF I email it and looks just as clear as original.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cerience.reader.app&feature=search_result
worth the $4.99 investment,
Love mine, I'm confident I made the right choice. £400 for a tablet-only device is not a wise spend. £400 for a tablet AND a netbook IS thou...
Aside from the keyboard drain (which is being fixed under RMA as we speak), I have no issues whatsoever with my device, and overjoyed with it.
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So my question to you is my boss has an ipad that we use for our invoices and paper work to get people to sign off on pdf files and what not. Does android have an app that lets you do that? And overall how good is it for work?
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I'd be very surprised if there is any app that iPad can do, that Android can't, as because of Android's open and less restrictive nature, you won't find missing apps, because "Apple don't like it, or Apple can't make money from it, or it cuts into Apple's buisness".
My TF is all good I have no problems with my tablet, maybe one of the lucky ones or just the fact that those few who have bad units choose to come to forums like this to seek advice and let everyone know how bad their unit is. With the dock it is an amazing bit of kit, I have tried the xoom, Acer and the Gtab, and unless you want form over function the TF is the best of the current bunch. As all the present android tablets running honeycomb are running the same os and internal spec. My own preference would be ports and functionality, screen, speed of updates and build quality. For me the TF ticks all the boxes.
Xoom, highintial price, lack of support and working ports, poor screen
Gtab, lack of ports, slow updates from Samsung.
I like the design of the TF especially when combined with the dock, equal to any high end net book, Asus have done a great job with amazing fore sight, it is original only the Gtab is thinner and that is purely because it is an I pad clone.
I would think the units with defects are no different to apple I pad or even the Gtab on a percentage basis, plenty of apple units go back to their stores.
With regards to being beta testers, we are with regards android for tablets, like we were back in the 90,s with win 3.11. My recommendation to anyone wanting a android tablet with the best all-round functionality at the best price, get the TF.
Had my TF about two weeks now, and am yet to have any issues with it. I love peoples reactions when I undock the screen though, it's brilliant.
So, I'm an android fan and have been thinking about selling my iPad 1 and taking the cash and picking up the Fire. I've played with my co-workers and realize they are supposed to be compared. Was just wondering what you guys think?
You will probably be able to sell your ipad1 for at least 300 dollars. I guess it really depends what you want to do with the tablet. There are Android tablets out there with better specs than the Fire that you could get for 300 dollars, maybe cheaper with holiday sales. However, if you are mainly interested in surfing the web and consuming Amazon content, the Fire is the way to go. It probably meets my needs/wants about 80% of the time.
The main issues I have are that browser is not faster than my other tabs, not much storage space for offline content, and keypresses don't always respond.
Edited to add: lack of bluetooth is also a bummer.
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So, I'm an android fan and have been thinking about selling my iPad 1 and taking the cash and picking up the Fire. I've played with my co-workers and realize they are supposed to be compared. Was just wondering what you guys think?
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There are plenty of tabs out there that will service you better than the KF. If you get $300 for your iPad1 seriously think about looking around at other options. After using an iPad I truly doubt, in the long run, the KF will satisfy you. More memory, more options, a much better chance at HC or ICS (very much doubt the KF will get either) and overall better android experience. Comparing the iPad (any version) to the KF is not really valid no matter who says so IMO. The only things they really share, IMO, is that they are both serviced by closed gardens.
That said, welcome back from the "Dark Side".
What I wish I could do is have both. But the wife says only one tablet. Just kind of ready something for something new. The majority of what I do is Netflix, Hulu, and web browsing. I'm thinking the fire will do all those things well and hoping the developer community gets behind this and we get some fun roms.
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What I wish I could do is have both. But the wife says only one tablet. Just kind of ready something for something new. The majority of what I do is Netflix, Hulu, and web browsing. I'm thinking the fire will do all those things well and hoping the developer community gets behind this and we get some fun roms.
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I can respect that. But don't buy something mainly because it's "new" and "flashy" or "because everyone is getting it". Get something that is scalable, stands good chance of upgrading and will provide you with a learning milieu that truncated e-readers likely will not.
Just food for thought.
Check out the HTC flyer at Best Buy for $299 and look at forums here. It has much better specs and will run netflix and hulu plus.
Edited to add link: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ga...ablet-dont-forget-the-powerful-htc-flyer/5271
I really like the 7 inch size. The iPad can be too big sometimes.
It all depends on your needs. I for one love my fire. But you have to keep in mind it does have its limitations, aka memory. It has "only" 6.5 Gb of useable storage, personally I feel that is plenty of storage for my needs. I mean I've downloaded a ton of apps and have barely made a dent, but, if you plan on loading up the kindle fire with a ton of music and movies, you may want to think twice, me personallly ill just stream everything. I might load some music on it for a trip, but beyond that I don't see the point. Enough with my storage rant though. I'm really enjoying the kindle fire, I actually have grown to love Amazons custom skin it just makes sense to me, even though at times it can be a little frustrating because of some.minor lag, which I'm sure can be fixed with a software update. But, one thing I enjoy about the interface, is depending on what section you are in, aka books, apps, you can quickly access the store for that content, very User friendly, but if you don't like it then side load go launcher ex and you got an experiance like other android counterparts. And another feature I feel is well done is the search with a quick click of a.button you can choose to search device or web, fantastic. Plus watching Hulu plus on the fire is great, the $199 price tag is really a steal in my opinion.
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I sold my ipad 1 around 2 weeks ago to make a switch to the kindle fire and loving it. The whole experience is much smoother, no more checkboards when I scroll down webpages and having multiple tabs open didnt make the tablet unusable. Though I do kinda miss the app store and itune university. I use my tablet mainly for browsing and reading so the smaller form factor is perfect. Before the kindle fire I thought about switching to the galaxy tab 8.9 its significantly easier to handle than the ipad weight just under a lb. I really liked it but for less than half the cost and comparable specs I took the kindle fire over it
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I really like the 7 inch size. The iPad can be too big sometimes.
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The flyer is 7 inches. I don't have any big problems with Fire, you just might want to check all your 7 inch options before you decide. Of course with the Fire, you can't beat the price.
I sold my 16GB iPad 1 (WiFi) for ~$225 and got a Fire, I couldn't be happier.
I use an ipad2 as a college book and internet lol... if you can justify using it and getting a better experience go for it. I have an android phone so that would be too much android in my life. I'm sticking with the ipad and android together. Makes the one offset the other when one becomes lacking.
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I sold my ipad earlier this year and picked up a nook. I just couldn't stand iOS. Sold the nook and now i have a Fire. I like it a lot, and i'm really tempted to keep it. I have to say I am disappointed with the lack of storage. As far as i am concerned that is the only major drawback, albeit a large one for me as I can at times be without internet for several months at a time. This is primarily when I want a tablet for movies and reading.
As far as its intended function, as an e-reader, it performs quite well. With wi-fi turned off and the brightness at about 80%, i'm seeing an hour for every ten percent down to 15% before I plug it in.
I think it is a great size. For the most part it is quite portable. Its got some heft to it, but it feels right and solid. I'm sure you have read plenty of reviews by now, so no point in me going on about it.
I say bite the bullet and pick one up as it is quite cheap. If u don't like it sell it, i'm sure these things will be sold out for an amount of time some where, at that point you definitely shouldn't have a problem getting your money back. Heck, pick one up locally, most places now have an extended return policy because of the holidays. I've already bought two as gifts for my family when I go to visit them.
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I sold my ipad earlier this year and picked up a nook. I just couldn't stand iOS. Sold the nook and now i have a Fire. I like it a lot, and i'm really tempted to keep it. I have to say I am disappointed with the lack of storage. As far as i am concerned that is the only major drawback, albeit a large one for me as I can at times be without internet for several months at a time. This is primarily when I want a tablet for movies and reading.
As far as its intended function, as an e-reader, it performs quite well. With wi-fi turned off and the brightness at about 80%, i'm seeing an hour for every ten percent down to 15% before I plug it in.
I think it is a great size. For the most part it is quite portable. Its got some heft to it, but it feels right and solid. I'm sure you have read plenty of reviews by now, so no point in me going on about it.
I say bite the bullet and pick one up as it is quite cheap. If u don't like it sell it, i'm sure these things will be sold out for an amount of time some where, at that point you definitely shouldn't have a problem getting your money back. Heck, pick one up locally, most places now have an extended return policy because of the holidays. I've already bought two as gifts for my family when I go to visit them.
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If you have access to usb power source when you are away from internet, you might check out the seagate go flex satellite( 500gb hdd with built in wifi). You can sideload the app and stream media from the drive to your device. The app isn't terrific, but it does work on the fire. The hdd acts as a router and creates a network between it and your device.
Well, my problem has been fixed. I'm keeping the iPad, so the kids and wife can use it and I'll be buying a Fire right around Xmas. Talked the wife into letting me buy one after saving up some money. Thanks all for the recommendations.
OK, so I am still trying to decide whether or not to buy the Neuxs 7 or not. I have the money for it right now but the following concern me:
I have a good gaming PC (i5 2500K, 8GB RAM, GTX 560Ti graphics etc.) and I am thinking that I may not use the tablet as much because of it. I know it's cheap anyway, but I don't want to buy it if I'm going to rarely use it
The screen lifting issue seems quite common and something which would bug me no end
I am worried about the sound quality via 3.5mm jack. I use a pair of SoundMAGIC E10 earbuds and I'd plan on using it to watch a lot of live streams as well as listening to a lot of music.
It was one of those things where I instantly pre-ordered it because I've never had a tablet before but then I cancelled after I'd heard about some of the issues that people have been getting with their N7's as well as some of my other concerns. I currently don't have a mobile phone and the only portable device I have is the iPod Touch 4G 8GB.
Are my concerns above justified or is there anyone that can persuade me otherwise?
Thanks.
Reading/seeing stuff on here is also tempting me
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To be honest, i haven't had any problems what so ever, but then again, you are going to hear more negative comments around here as people are more likely to talk about issues as people like myself are actually using it, etc.
I have consoles, a vita, and a gaming pc. I dont use the tablet as a gaming device, i use it more for consumption (news, media, etc).
The DAC is fine, i have Beyerdynacmics, Audio Technica's and a pair of Kilpsch S4's. It may not be the most outstanding quality i have heard but its perfectly fine. You wont be disappointed. For its price point, this tablet is an absolute blast, its quick, smooth, battery friendly (currently on stock) and has a beautiful screen (especially compared to my HP Touchpad).
Finally, its a 7". My ideal size, but then again, its really up to you dude.
The size of the tablet doesn't bother me because to me the iPad is too big/heavy, it's just simply whether or not I'll end up using it more than what I anticipate. I mean, it's a MASSIVE step-up from my iPod touch, but then again, I don't really use that much for anything other than music.
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OK, so I am still trying to decide whether or not to buy the Neuxs 7 or not. I have the money for it right now but the following concern me:
I have a good gaming PC (i5 2500K, 8GB RAM, GTX 560Ti graphics etc.) and I am thinking that I may not use the tablet as much because of it. I know it's cheap anyway, but I don't want to buy it if I'm going to rarely use it
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Do you plan on using the Nexus 7 mainly for gaming then? I personally believe while Nexus 7 is good for gaming but it's so much more. I don't believe it's fair to compare your PC to a tablet when it comes to gaming though.
The screen lifting issue seems quite common and something which would bug me no end
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What percentage of Nexus 7 do YOU actually think have this problem? If you are just going by your impression from the forum then I have to say that would be very skewed. Almost everyone who has that problem will complain but those who don't are probably too busy enjoying their Nexus 7 to even bother creating a thread with the title "All's good folks!".
I am worried about the sound quality via 3.5mm jack. I use a pair of SoundMAGIC E10 earbuds and I'd plan on using it to watch a lot of live streams as well as listening to a lot of music.
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It's about the same as any other tablet I've tried, namely iPad 3, iPad 2 and ASUS Transformer.
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I should've elaborate a bit. Some people recommend the Nexus 7 because with it having a Tegra 3 CPU and 12 core GPU, some people mention that it's a great gaming device. I'd be interested in a few games, sure, but it's not going to be a primary gaming device by any means. I am sure the percentage of Nexus 7s that have the issue are much lower than what most think and I suppose more people would complain that theirs is faulty rather than people writing to say theirs is fine.
I wasn't expecting phenomenal audiophile sound quality, but it was alarming the amount of people saying it was really bad but then I suppose that could be down to the source material (YouTube vs FLAC etc.) or the earphones/headphones of the user.
I have the money and I don't really need/want anything else right now, but at the same time there's this niggling thought it the back of my head saying 'What if I buy it, open it then use it like once a week?'. It's almost like I do want it but I don't at the same time :/
Haha..hey man, either buy it or don't. If you don't really need or want it, what's the problem? You know nobody on this forum is going to be able to make the decision for you, and it really comes down to you. I mean, even if you used it once a week it's still just $200.00. Seems like a steal to me.
My experience with the device was overwhelmingly positive, although mine was slightly defective. I've been missing it terribly these past three days. Our situations are actually pretty similar, since I've never wanted a smart phone and the only tablet I've ever used was a Fire, which I returned before Christmas because it wouldn't let me watch sideloaded videos in fullscreen. Stupid reskin.
I returned my 16 to Sam's Club due to screen lift, and last night I talked myself into mail-ordering its little sister from the Play store for two reasons.
Firstly, they have the best return policy in case I get another defective unit. Secondly, Google can afford to raise its standards for the 8 shipments now that pre-orders for that one are out of the way. If they intend to root out this assembly defect or ramp up quality control, they're going to be more thorough with the model that isn't backordered. Right now the 16 isn't available from the Play store, so I convinced myself not to wait because I enjoyed using it so much.
In terms of capacity, I was surprised by how little I needed the extra space because, although I watch a lot of movies and TV shows, it's pretty easy to set up Wifi streaming from shared folders on your PC. And you can just copy shared files onto your device through an Android explorer app if you're heading out the door. It's as quick and easy as you can configure it to be, so I didn't need to load up 10 gigs of television at a time like I thought I would. I don't have a TV, so maybe watching stuff on a tablet isn't a priority for you. Yes, I'd rather have a 10 inch screen for this, but the Nexus 7 is large enough for immersive viewing if you have good headphones, and a smaller device is better when you're lying in bed.
I think the best thing about owning a tablet is that you don't need to sit in one place when using it. And it's hard to understand how liberating this feels until you try it. Sort of like using a wireless game controller. You can sit on the porch at night and watch Arrested Development, check your email, do online banking, whatever.
As for gaming, it sounds like you don't have a portable device, so you'll definitely get some mileage there. Touchscreen controls are a little bit forced for certain genres, but really satisfying for puzzle, arcade, and strategy games. The quality of games being developed for touchscreens is improving, and even Squaresoft has gotten into the mix by releasing a relatively pricey but very well received revamp of FFIII. I'm trying to save my Play money, so the only game I purchased was Osmos HD, which is pretty old but still well supported. Great game. And there are other titles on the horizon that I'm really excited about, like Asphalt 7 and Fieldrunners 2.
I don't think you'll regret buying a tablet, or find it reminiscent of using an iPod touch. And you should only be worried about getting a defective unit if you don't trust the return policy. I would recommend buying the 8 from Google if you think that will be enough for you. Otherwise, wait to buy the 16 from a store that doesn't make you nervous.
Well, the 8GB would be an option but by the time I pay shipping, it costs £168 and I can get a 16GB one from Tesco for £194 delivered plus 3% cashback.
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I think you should look at the ability to be mobil and rather its something you need or want. I hardly ever use my tablet at home other then reading in bed or outside on deck for a quick search.
So to better answer rathere we can convince you its worth while will depend on your need to be mobile. I love myself a 500. Only it will not fit in my purse.
Hope this helps.
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Well, the 8GB would be an option but by the time I pay shipping, it costs £168 and I can get a 16GB one from Tesco for £194 delivered plus 3% cashback.
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The monetary value of that extra space is entirely dependent on your needs. If you don't know what those needs are, go with the larger capacity.
I would call and ask about their exchange policy, assuming they're still in stock.
I can order one and have it delivered for Tuesday. Tempting.
Still undecided haha, don't know what to do. It's not a device I NEED, but one I want but then don't want it to basically end up being a £199 paperweight (If I end up not using it much). It's one of those things where I'm not really sure how much I'd use it unless I had one?
Do you have a tablet already? It sounds like the question you're asking yourself is not "do I need a Nexus 7?" but "do I need a tablet?"
If that's the case the answer is yes. You'll understand within a day.
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I don't have a tablet, no. The only current electronic devices/equipment I have are my gaming PC, Xbox 360 and iPod Touch 4G (I don't have a mobile phone).
I didn't need or want this tablet either. I've got a Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really didn't think a 7" was for me. After buying one for my son for his birthday and briefly playing around with it, I was really blown away with how smooth this tablet is. I was able to buy the last one at my local Staples and absolutely have no regrets. This device now goes everywhere with me; something I couldn't do with my 10.1.
If you're on the fence as I was, I'd suggest picking one up while you can. There's not really any risk of losing money as they're selling like crazy on Craigslist and eBay. I don't think you'll have a problem with getting your money back.
Also, my son's 8 and my 16GB have 0 issues.
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I got mine to hack on. Everything else is a plus. The first time I rooted my phone and flashed a custom ROM I was hooked. I got a galaxy nexus for the Dev support same for the 7. With a nexus device you will always get firmware updates first and there is a ton of developer support on all nexus devices... but if you don't have a mobile phone then I doubt you care about that. It is extremely addicting to root and tweak/ overclock your device to get the full potential out of your hardware. In my opinion it would be worth it just to get exposed to a open source community. Its something no iPhone/iPad user will ever experience on their device. One of my favorite things to do is comparing benchmark test to see what kind of performance increase I get from different Roms kernels and tweaks. If you've never had an android device then you are going to be spoiled because jellybean provides by far the best android experience so far. So in short if you want a device you can't have total control over and discover a whole new world... then any android device is for you. The 7 is especially nice because the hardware is top of the line. If you get a defective one you can always return it for a new one. I would suggest getting it from a retail store if you could just because its easier to return a defective device through a retail store.
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Also you can use free emulators off the play store to play any NES,SNES, Sega, n64 and many other console games.
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Yeah, I love tinkering about with stuff (Started with the PSP then got Motorola RAZR V3i, ZTE Blade etc.) and the idea of a Nexus tablet interested me from the very moment it was announced but not sure if I'd use the device for what it's meant for (Media consumption). I might add that I'm going to university to study Computing in September and there's free WiFi all over campus.
If you like tinkering then I would say get it. Do alot of reading on rooting and flashing custom Roms before you jump in because you can brick it, however, with nexus devices all the factory images are available so its pretty hard to jack it up beyond repair. If you've never had a device that runs an android operating system then I would say you don't know what your missing... and while it was designed for media consumption it offers a lot more than that... but if you really feel like you don't know what you would use it for then maybe it isn't for you...
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Hi. I am happy to be a new member.
I am looking for a tablet,this would be my first.
I am a huge windows/microsoft person and was excited about the new windows 8protablet releases.
I was also waiting for sprint to get some windows 8 phones in, but didn't want to wait.
so the Galaxy s3. ( considered the iphone 5) was what I went with. I love this thing. No complaints at all. How could you get any better.this is why I am looking into android tablets. But there is some conflict with other products.
The problem is.
Do I go with the ipad4.....the speakers are terrible, i should say speaker.
Do I get the asus transformer......but the screen is not the best.
I was going to wait for asus to release tx300 windows 8pro tablet....but i think this is over kill.
Even the samsung windows 8 tablet looked good too.
Now this nexus 10 comes out.
the most important thing for me is the screen, but I cant stand light bleed. I hope this is not a problem.
so I will mainly be using this for web surfing, ebooks (how good is this for reading text), and movie streaming.
I am not worried about apps made for 10'' tabs, i am patient and know it will start rolling out.
My main concern is the 32gb storage. My cell phone has a 32gb mem card and still has lots of room, so I would think it should be ok.
and what about the 64gb rumor?
can someone set me straight.
thanks..Joe
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Hi. I am happy to be a new member.
I am looking for a tablet,this would be my first.
I am a huge windows/microsoft person and was excited about the new windows 8protablet releases.
I was also waiting for sprint to get some windows 8 phones in, but didn't want to wait.
so the Galaxy s3. ( considered the iphone 5) was what I went with. I love this thing. No complaints at all. How could you get any better.this is why I am looking into android tablets. But there is some conflict with other products.
The problem is.
Do I go with the ipad4.....the speakers are terrible, i should say speaker.
Do I get the asus transformer......but the screen is not the best.
I was going to wait for asus to release tx300 windows 8pro tablet....but i think this is over kill.
Even the samsung windows 8 tablet looked good too.
Now this nexus 10 comes out.
the most important thing for me is the screen, but I cant stand light bleed. I hope this is not a problem.
so I will mainly be using this for web surfing, ebooks (how good is this for reading text), and movie streaming.
I am not worried about apps made for 10'' tabs, i am patient and know it will start rolling out.
My main concern is the 32gb storage. My cell phone has a 32gb mem card and still has lots of room, so I would think it should be ok.
and what about the 64gb rumor?
can someone set me straight.
thanks..Joe
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Since I'm not a normal android user I can't comment on what exactly it is you're looking for, but I can tell you with the development that will be kicking in for this device, it'll be quite the tablet to beat. I have AOSP ROM installed and will be installing and trying other ROMs and kernels when they're out to see which best suits my style of using such a device.
internet browsing, ebooks, and movie streaming are all superb on the N10. There really isn't another tablet out there that competes with the screen. Light bleed seems to vary from device to device. I have one small corner at the bottom right that is barely noticely. Unless you're one of the OCD people who like to stare at black screens and scrutinize for minimal light bleed you're going to end up finding something you don't like in terms of that. For normal use for movie streaming and web browsing, chance are you won't even notice it or care about it.
I don't understand all these people complaining about light bleed. It really isn't that noticeable unless you received an obvious defected device that has a true light bleed problem.
Go to a store and try them all out. Retail stores should start stocking them soon so you can try them all out at the same time to see what you like the most.
I'm biased towards a Nexus device since there's much more you can do after rooting/unlocking it.
Good luck.
voodooevil said:
Hi. I am happy to be a new member.
I am looking for a tablet,this would be my first.
I am a huge windows/microsoft person and was excited about the new windows 8protablet releases.
I was also waiting for sprint to get some windows 8 phones in, but didn't want to wait.
so the Galaxy s3. ( considered the iphone 5) was what I went with. I love this thing. No complaints at all. How could you get any better.this is why I am looking into android tablets. But there is some conflict with other products.
The problem is.
Do I go with the ipad4.....the speakers are terrible, i should say speaker.
Do I get the asus transformer......but the screen is not the best.
I was going to wait for asus to release tx300 windows 8pro tablet....but i think this is over kill.
Even the samsung windows 8 tablet looked good too.
Now this nexus 10 comes out.
the most important thing for me is the screen, but I cant stand light bleed. I hope this is not a problem.
so I will mainly be using this for web surfing, ebooks (how good is this for reading text), and movie streaming.
I am not worried about apps made for 10'' tabs, i am patient and know it will start rolling out.
My main concern is the 32gb storage. My cell phone has a 32gb mem card and still has lots of room, so I would think it should be ok.
and what about the 64gb rumor?
can someone set me straight.
thanks..Joe
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The iPad 4 is a really great tablet and a great choice. You will not go wrong with the iPad 4. For me, there is not iPad vs. Android argument here, it is all about the software. If you like the openness of Android and are looking for a comparable tablet to the iPad, the N10 is it. I've owned an ASUS Transformer Prime which I really liked, but wanted a high def screen. I "upgraded" to the Infinity which had a great screen but was just a laggy, sluggish, experience. I was a bit weary of the N10 but I went for it and I am very happy. It is what I thought the Infinity would be in terms of performance. It is the only "true" competitor" to the iPad.
Granted, there are a bunch of people having issues with the N10 on this forum, but there are also people having issues with the iPad. It really comes down to the OS. iOS is great, but very closed. Android is also very good but open so if there is a "geek" in you, you can root it and do all sorts of stuff with it. BUT, if you don't root, the N10 is still the best Android tablet available. BUT, if you are on a budget, and you don't care about screen resolution, the T300 is on sale at a bunch of stores for a really good price (and the T300 isn't a bad tablet). And if you want to gamble, the Transformer Prime is going for a steal on many sites not but be warned, there are a bunch of confirmed issues with wifii on this tablet (although not for me).
In the end, my opinion is this. the iPad is a great tablet (Yeah, I said it, deal with it). But Google finally introduced a comparable tablet which is the N10. Don't fall victim to the iOS vs Android arguments, get what is best for you. If you do decide Android is for you, the N10 is at the top (hands down). The N7 (a 7 inch tablet) is close behind. The ASUS Transformer tablets (T300 or T700) are solid tablets if you want to get into the Android tablet market as they are being reduced in price recently.
Many people complain that a 10" tablet, no matter who makes it, is too heavy for ebook reading. You pretty much have to hold it with 2 hands the whole time, or set it in your lap, which is too far away. 7" tablets weigh about 1/2 as much (the N7 is just over 1/2 the N10's weight) which makes reading in bed easier. Then there is the whole reading on a backlit screen instead of a passive screen - not as easy on the eyes.
Having said all this, I basically don't read ebooks on my devices anyway. I tend to pick up my books from Barnes & Nobles discount racks a few months after release - they are cheaper than the ebook & I can share them with my wife, lend them to people, and save my batteries.
Thanks for all the very useful comments.
I am going to get the 32gb one on order.
I can see that everyone here is very helpful and
I cant wait to get my hands on this. Its a Christmas gift from my wife and hopefully
I will get it by then
Thanks guys. ..
After soul searching for a few weeks I decided to sell my 12.2. I really wanted a one device replacement for my tablets and laptop. As much as I tried, this just did not fit the bill. I was also surprised at the lack of any development on this tablet.
It is a solid device but needs a dock in my opinion and can't quite service all my needs in one device.
Bye bye 12.2. It was fun for a while.
Yeah I don't know if you're like me but as much as I wish for it there will never be a true "laptop replacement" other than a laptop itself lol. I always cringe a little when new users come to the note pro forums here or on Android Central and ask if these devices would serve them well as a laptop replacement. Truth is they do for some use cases but not all.
Sorry things didn't work out for you. It's too bad about lack of development too. Taking matters into ones own hands by using things like xposed gives some relief but it's not the same as true custom roms.
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So, what you end up getting?
Moderate Replacment ?
Mike02z said:
After soul searching for a few weeks I decided to sell my 12.2. I really wanted a one device replacement for my tablets and laptop. As much as I tried, this just did not fit the bill. I was also surprised at the lack of any development on this tablet.
It is a solid device but needs a dock in my opinion and can't quite service all my needs in one device.
Bye bye 12.2. It was fun for a while.
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Yeah I don't know if you're like me but as much as I wish for it there will never be a true "laptop replacement" other than a laptop itself lol. I always cringe a little when new users come to the note pro forums here or on Android Central and ask if these devices would serve them well as a laptop replacement. Truth is they do for some use cases but not all.
Sorry things didn't work out for you. It's too bad about lack of development too. Taking matters into ones own hands by using things like xposed gives some relief but it's not the same as true custom roms.
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Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
naruto.ninjakid said:
Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
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"Well" is subjective, particularly when it comes to generalized requirements. Take an existing powerpoint done on a computer that has complicated transitions and embedded objects and all bets are off as to whether or not the tablet will handle it "well" if at all.
I'm an engineer so I always err on the side of conservatism so I can't go on record telling you it will fit your needs perfectly. That said I think in general yeah you should be okay provided your specific requirements with regards to office file compatibility are not too high.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
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It varies from person to person. I've used it for that in my last year and it served it's purpose well. (With a Logitech K810). As for if it will work for you, I can not say.
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I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
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I really like the idea of the Surface. It's just such a shame they had to use a 1990's level GPU. You get an i7, 16GB RAM.... and an Intel HD 4000. If there was ever the definition of a bottleneck, it's an Intel HD. That piece of junk is not worth 2000 quid. Not worth 800, either. 150, maybe.
I require a dedicated GPU for my day to day usage of a laptop (Design/Gaming).
If the Surface 4 gets an Nvidia, now that will be worth considering.
I do no gaming and no graphic design work so it seems to be just want I needed. So far, so good.
I don't think the Surface 3 Pro is advertised anywhere as a gamer machine.
Mike02z said:
I do no gaming and no graphic design work so it seems to be just want I needed. So far, so good.
I don't think the Surface 3 Pro is advertised anywhere as a gamer machine.
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I know. And if you're happy with it, don't let me stop you. (no really, I mean it. This is just my opinion, you don't need my opinion to enjoy your device )
I just don't think it's worth the price it sells for. Not in terms of hardware.
My laptop has an IntelHD 4000 and an Nvidia 740M. (That requires some managing as a gamer.) Inside is the same range of an i7 and 16GB RAM. When I select the IntelHD as the device to play a 2k film, it freezes every few minutes, botches up the render of several shot switches and if it's 4K, simply doesn't even get past the very first frame. The sound plays, but the video simply can't be rendered.
That's how weak an Intel HD is. Now tell me, is that worth 800 quid? Let alone 2000?
I like the idea, I really, really do. And if they add an Nvidia, I will absolutely buy the top-tier one.
But I can't understand why people would pay so much for such outdated and lousy tech.(But then, I feel the same about Apple users.) Or why companies are so utterly stupid in adding them. It's bloody difficult to even find a decent laptop below 8000 quid that doesn't have one of those useless Intel HD's. Intel HD should've been banned from the market year ago since the Family 4.
I recently had the Surface Pro 3 and it really was a solid device. I actually returned my Wi-Fi GNP12.2 to get it. But for what it cost, I really expected more. That device needs broadwell. Thermal issues and such really prevent you from taking advantage of it's higher potential performance capability. It ended up being a basic media and light productivity device, for which I found the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 to be fully capable of doing, for considerably less money.
I decided to go back to the GNP12.2, except this time I went with the SM-P907A as my "small notebook replacement" device. Add in the solid Samsung keyboard case, S Mouse, and I'm ready to roll. The Snapdragon still does it's thing better than the Exynos, I've got LTE everywhere (love that feature), and with the right apps, it really has been able to do everything I need out a portable computing device. I mean, it's light, excellent battery life, crisp screen... the list goes on.
Keeping in mind, I do have a more powerful 15" Ultrabook and high-end fixed workstation for more demanding tasks. But for the day-to-day mobile stuff, it's been working great for me. Well, at least until something more interesting comes along. With that said, I do agree it's not for everybody. Nothing ever is. But probably at least worth giving a shot for many. Either way, good luck! :good:
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I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
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Hey man I am in the same boat. I just went through Dell Venue 8 pro-->11 pro--> Note 10.1 2014--> note pro 12.2. All in the matter of like a month.....
I have this to say about them all.
Dell venue series I bought out of a desire to try and stay cheap but still have an active digitizer. I am trying to digitize all of my notes for my masters program so that when I write my thesis it will all be accessible in one place. Venue 8 was too small, 10 was underpowered and the active digitizer on both was crap, I mean really bad. The note 10.1 was great but I wanted some more real estate so I went with the 12.2 for a week or so. Since it is the thread I am writing in I will make a few observations
1. Great tab overall, well powered but overwhelmed by Samsung TW UI, easy to take care of with root/greenify and what not.
2. For importing the pdfs and ppts from lecture it just took forever, I played with some different note taking apps and I always ended up with the S-pen app which is awesome, but it would not handle my 1000+ page books at all. I don't know how long I waited for snote to import it and then it crashed. What a shame because it was a champ otherwise.
3. One thing both the notes had for me was the multiwindow function, watch a lecture and take notes at the same time, but I noticed when I was streaming lectures that were in HD I would get some lags from the Snore and Spen. Again shame because I know the tab has the power to run it but I am guessing that its the TW issues again.
4. Why I ended up going elsewhere.(surface 3 i3)
- I want to get rid of carrying around my old 09 MBP and become a little more streamlined. I am relinquishing my MBP to be a home desktop/server since I dropped an extra 4gigs of ram and a 1TB HD in it through the years. This tab just didn't do it for me. It was soooooooo soooooo close but it just didn't quite get there from a productivity standpoint FOR ME.
5. I am a flashaholic with my phone sooooooo having something to run Odin/LGflashtool on when I am on the go would be nice so that I don't have to worry about ending up in bootloops and not have a phone the rest of the day.
Note to Samsung if you are reading this.
First, bravo on a great tab, seriously it is an awesome machine but
Second, get out of the way of the android experience a little(read a lot) more and let the hardware shine. I would love to see the android L update on this tab with a minimized TW UI so that you can really see the beast that is in the tablet.
I have gone from cheap to some of the best hybrid tablets you can go and I have this to say. The Note pro may be for you because its awesome but know what you need and what you don't. If you are trying to replace a laptop then the Note pro may not be for you unless you are talking about partial replacement to just carry around during the day and then use the big laptop back home, it may work then. BUT, if you want a true laptop replacement, like leave your old one to collect dust it may not be right for you.
Just trying to prevent so many open box items at my local best buy........
-Ice3186
I too use this tablet for school and for the price ($416 on ebay) it's a miracle device. I tried the surface pro 3 and the handwriting was not as good which was a deal breaker for at its price ($999 for the i5). I chose to just acept that ill have to carry around my toshiba a little while longer. snote is a underpowered app with frustrating lag when navigating through different ui but still the best there is. As a side note, I'm not sure why to would want to import pdfs into it when you can multi window them in a reader.
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I too use this tablet for school and for the price ($416 on ebay) it's a miracle device. I tried the surface pro 3 and the handwriting was not as good which was a deal breaker for at its price ($999 for the i5). I chose to just acept that ill have to carry around my toshiba a little while longer. snote is a underpowered app with frustrating lag when navigating through different ui but still the best there is. As a side note, I'm not sure why to would want to import pdfs into it when you can multi window them in a reader.
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Even as a power user, I have had no problem using the NP12.2 as a primary enterprise device. I travel a lot for business, do presentations and lecturing and so forth. My demands are quite high and I have loved the 12.2. On the occasion that I have needed something more powerful, the use of one of the remote apps (I like PhoneMyPC and have used it for years) works just fine as long as I keep my laptop at home, powered on, and connected to the internet. Then, when I need a file or something from the PC, well... that is what Dropbox is for. Couple the NP12.2 with a bluetooth keyboard case (and mouse if you need it) and it has been the best tablet that I have ever used, and I owned the first 10.1 android tablet two days after it came out.