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Xiaomi Mi tow is Out .. what you think

So today the mi tow releasd and the phone is really rock
1.5 cpu quad core
12 mp camera
2100-3000 mah
2 g ram
What phone need more
And only 315 $
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Let's wait for some previews. But the hardware is kick ass!!!
Unfortunately I doubt that it will be globally available.
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sparxx4 said:
So today the mi tow releasd and the phone is really rock
1.5 cpu quad core
12 mp camera
2100-3000 mah
2 g ram
What phone need more
And only 315 $
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this phone would beat the crap out of every phone with snapdragon qcore chipset and adreno 320 gpu,it will beat the crap out of every phone and manufacturers also said it would give gaming perfromance like xbox 360,looking forward to it hope it gets announced globally,fingers crossed:angel:

Master Kickass - no more words. And veeery cheap if we looking on hardware . Gonna find it when I will have money. Android JB pre-installed?

i think its only availevle on china now
so i dont know how i can buy it
a kick ass who surly can be at the same level with S3 and One X and very cheep

eBay should be the best way to get it .

I think it has JB but on MIUI as what I read. Its very cheap. Hope someone does the job of exporting it from china to our country. It has an advanced display resolution.

Will it be available in India?
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Not sure. May be no. Most of the time we see some invention in China, but it never hits the global markets.

I don't think it'll ever be globally available because MiUI ROM is infringing a gazillion patents.
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Of course it is a amazing cell phone with low price,but sorry to say...the company has limited the qualifications of buying,MIUI developers can buy at first,and then,maybe xiaomi only sell less than 1000 M2 per day,MIUI fans who have joined bbs of xiaomi have to scramble for them.when normal people can get it freely,it should be 2013.At this time,there is no doubt that we will have better choices,like SAMSUNG or HTC
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xiuluozhang said:
Of course it is a amazing cell phone with low price,but sorry to say...the company has limited the qualifications of buying,MIUI developers can buy at first,and then,maybe xiaomi only sell less than 1000 M2 per day,MIUI fans who have joined bbs of xiaomi have to scramble for them.when normal people can get it freely,it should be 2013.At this time,there is no doubt that we will have better choices,like SAMSUNG or HTC
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Xiaomi "Two" is not out yet, I just bought a 1S which released last week. The Mi2 will be out in a couple months.

BrandeX said:
Xiaomi "Two" is not out yet, I just bought a 1S which released last week. The Mi2 will be out in a couple months.
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Can you share your 1S experience? Build quality, firmareq, ect. So we can have a taste before trying to get a MI2.

they said something about "Maybe come to europe in Q2 2013"

qtekker said:
Can you share your 1S experience? Build quality, firmareq, ect. So we can have a taste before trying to get a MI2.
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Well... it seems nice. To be honest I have only played around with it for a few minutes. It is running the default MiUI in Chinese, and I can't read it, I actually bought it for my wife. I may get a Mi2 later this year if I can figure out how to get it flashed into something English-y as my phone is getting to be old and junky (win 6!).

Nexus 4 or Moto X

my att Note 2 is broken. I know that Moto X will be a google phone and it is coming out soon. should I wait to just get the nexus 4?

N4 bro. Moto x seems to have specs downgraded compared to n4 but I think you should wait for the official announcement.
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For now, the only specs "downgraded" seems to be the CPU (quad-core > dual-core).
Anyway, first let's see the presentation on the 1th of august

Since you're comparing with yet unreleased phones, you might as well include the nexus 5 with it's rumoured specs in the comparison..
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rayiskon said:
Since you're comparing with yet unreleased phones, you might as well include the nexus 5 with it's rumoured specs in the comparison..
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There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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Tarun95 said:
N4 bro. Moto x seems to have specs downgraded compared to n4 but I think you should wait for the official announcement.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.

bozzykid said:
What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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I believe the rumor is it's going to be undercutting the Nexus 4 at under $265 even... and even though it's a dualcore it apparently outperforms the N4's quadcore...
So yeah OP, I think the MotoX is probably the better choice. But let's wait for an official announcement before making rash decisions ;P

bozzykid said:
There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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What is downgraded? The CPU tests seem to show some pretty amazing numbers considering what CPU it is using. The Moto X will also have LTE, a better camera, and better battery life. If they sell it for $300-$400, it will be hard to recommend the N4 anymore.
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Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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Tarun95 said:
Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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Cores matter but per core performance usually matters more...

Tarun95 said:
Yeah I guess cores don't matter.
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I've read this is a pretty custom CPU that is utilizing cores in a different way. Having more cores doesn't make it faster. Apparently the Moto X has chips that offload some of the processing power (like for voice). So I would expect the experience to be more smooth than the N4.

bozzykid said:
There are no rumored specs for the N5. There are wishful specs. The Moto X has real specs that have been released by people using the phone and is coming out in a few weeks.
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until there is an official announcement it's all rumors, be it nexus 5, moto x or whatever. Asking moto X or nexus 4 is a stupid question, you don't know how the phone performs, you don't know the exact hardware (forget the leaks and rumors here), you don't know what features and capabillities it will pack. all you know is those few things seen in that Rogers ad, the always listening google now and camera gesture. So, until the official announcement on August 1st, comparing an older phone (nexus 4 in this case) with rumors, leaks and what not devices is plain silly. Cheers

wait my friend, HTC one mAXX , Galaxy note 3, Galaxy s4 with snapdragon 800, lg optimus g2, sony xperia Z ultra.
patience

Yeah, I would wait just a few weeks to see the official specs on the Moto X before buying any phone, TBH.
Personally, I'm incredibly happy with my Nexus 4 and could care less about any other phone right now... Unless something comes out that is priced so low with insane specs... Then I'd get it as a backup phone and switch between it and my Nexus 4 whenever the mood strikes me but I'm not giving up my Nexus 4 just yet. I love the little thing!
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rayiskon said:
until there is an official announcement it's all rumors, be it nexus 5, moto x or whatever. Asking moto X or nexus 4 is a stupid question, you don't know how the phone performs, you don't know the exact hardware (forget the leaks and rumors here), you don't know what features and capabillities it will pack. all you know is those few things seen in that Rogers ad, the always listening google now and camera gesture. So, until the official announcement on August 1st, comparing an older phone (nexus 4 in this case) with rumors, leaks and what not devices is plain silly. Cheers
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We already know the Moto X has a better camera and LTE. In my mind, that is all I need to jump ship from the N4 considering it appears to be a mostly stock experience.

bozzykid said:
We already know the Moto X has a better camera and LTE. In my mind, that is all I need to jump ship from the N4 considering it appears to be a mostly stock experience.
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But will it have An unlockable bootloader? If it does I may just step away from the nexus line. At least until the next one comes...
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El Daddy said:
But will it have An unlockable bootloader? If it does I may just step away from the nexus line. At least until the next one comes...
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I think that's a safe bet... but if the rumors that the Moto X will be on Verizon are true I'm sure that version won't have an unlockable bootloader... at least not officially.

Is it going to be GSM? All the Motorola devices are Verizon only.

lazer155 said:
Is it going to be GSM? All the Motorola devices are Verizon only.
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that was before google bought them ;P

PhantomGamers said:
that was before google bought them ;P
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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?

lazer155 said:
So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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i do believe they had some global phones such as the droid 2 global which had gsm support... or some gsm support at least.
but it would be the first full blown gsm device i think. im not really sure

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So this would be the first gsm Motorola device, right?
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No, the Motorola Atrix line is GSM and on AT&T

Warning- Don´t buy this phone (Moto e 2nd gen)

Motorola promise to not forget updates for this phone, and after a few months they drop support. We are not going to receive Marshmallow.
Motorola Promo in February:
So better to go for another phone and stay away from this.

Yes guys lets forget about this brand for good cuz even after selling millions they droped support im vetting rid of this cheap plasticy phone
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A good deal if you can get one for < $50, which is what the SD410 variant was going for in the US. I'll still use mine as a secondary device, but it would be nice to receive future stagefright fixes.

Runs great on 5.1
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well that was expected... I don't think that any phone on this price point will get 6.0 (expcet android one)

They only actually guaranteed "1" update which a couple devices have already received. I also know soak tests are still ongoing for some GSM variants...to be honest I'm not terribly upset. I picked up 4 of these for less than $220.00 for my work phones and they do the job. While not upset I am surprised given the nearly 18 month support to the 1st Gen Moto G and X...I did purchase a new X Style and I "hope" Lenovo and Motorola give it at least 2 version support.
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Moto/Lenovo betray us, basically. Only 6 months of system updates to Moto E 2nd gen. BTW we have AOSP, CM, so doesnt matter official updates.

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Dan_Jacques said:
Moto/Lenovo betray us, basically. Only 6 months of system updates to Moto E 2nd gen. BTW we have AOSP, CM, so doesnt matter official updates.
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If you have noticed, CyanogenMod is now "official" for both otus and surnia!
Moto E 2015 3G: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_otus
Moto E 2015 LTE: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_surnia

^ That's great Now let's hope will get to M soon.

openhacker said:
If you have noticed, CyanogenMod is now "official" for both otus and surnia!
Moto E 2015 3G: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_otus
Moto E 2015 LTE: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_surnia
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I refer to Motorola official updates :good:

Kind of don't like how they let their phones get locked down by carriers if the carrier asks them either. I guess they don't have the muscle of Google or Samsung or Apple to say no but it still pisses me off how they preached developer friendlyness and then lock their phones down for carriers every time. Wish the carriers would get regulated and become utilities faster they don't deserve the profits if they are going to act like monopolies.

Can any of you suggest a similar phone that will be getting marshmallow?
I'm looking for something with decent battery life, smaller than a nexus 5, a torch is bonus.
Don't care about price.
Edit: I might just buy this anyway and use CM - i'm sick of expensive phones with terrible battery life - would rather a cheap one with no updates that lasts for a while.

elliottlan said:
Can any of you suggest a similar phone that will be getting marshmallow?
I'm looking for something with decent battery life, smaller than a nexus 5, a torch is bonus.
Don't care about price.
Edit: I might just buy this anyway and use CM - i'm sick of expensive phones with terrible battery life - would rather a cheap one with no updates that lasts for a while.
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Buy the 2nd Gen of Android One. if it is available in your country. :good:

moto e 2015 do buy this phone
Just because you might not get marshmallow update so What, lollipop is still ok, get yourself a custom launcher to rid google now search home screen happy days. I don't expect to have this phone for ever for the price its cool, prob change every 6 months anywho.
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Buy the 2nd Gen of Android One. if it is available in your country. :good:
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yeh man

mickleoe said:
Just because you might not get marshmallow update so What, lollipop is still ok, get yourself a custom launcher to rid google now search home screen happy days. I don't expect to have this phone for ever for the price its cool, prob change every 6 months anywho.
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yeh man
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nice try motorola employer
Do you have 5.1? If yes then ok but if not you probably hasn't used any average phone before. This phone is very very slow and laggy on 5.0.2, I was using xpeira m (dual core low end phone, specs way worse than moto e) running cm11 and it was way way faster than this one...

surely I would be the Employee, or why would I b bothered replying to YOU! all I know is this budget phone has worked better for me than Samsung, and the sony I want I cant afford, if you had seen my last Q's you wouldn't b so quick to insult.

iks8 said:
nice try motorola employer
Do you have 5.1? If yes then ok but if not you probably hasn't used any average phone before. This phone is very very slow and laggy on 5.0.2, I was using xpeira m (dual core low end phone, specs way worse than moto e) running cm11 and it was way way faster than this one...
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I'm on 5.02 and this is one of the fastest phones i owned. My previous was Xperia Z1 and that bastard was very laggy one even with it's nice specs.

It´s a good phone, but what bothers me is the promise of updates and we will be in 5.0.2 forever.

What's a good alternate 4.5" android phone? That's the main reason I want a Moto E, that it's physically small. I find even the Moto G way too big to use with one hand.
(Oh, and a microSD slot. And a decent battery. You know, so I can actually use the phone.)

DanielBeaver said:
What's a good alternate 4.5" android phone? That's the main reason I want a Moto E, that it's physically small. I find even the Moto G way too big to use with one hand.
(Oh, and a microSD slot. And a decent battery. You know, so I can actually use the phone.)
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There are similar priced LG phones with sd410, few similar models. Maybe their software isn't so good but there is always unofficial support. At least they have flashlight. You can check Moto G lte too (1st gen), with 4.4.4 it's smooth like butter.

idol 4/4S!

Looks like Alcatel is producing a new version of the IDOL lineup!
apparently its running android m, features a 16MP camera, 2 or 3gb ram and 4S has AMOLED
might be wrong thread, but i just stumbled upon this on their website
Here's some news items from popular sites (well, i think they are popular, lol):
http://www.gsmarena.com/unannounced...s_leak_complete_specs_revealed-news-16409.php
http://www.androidauthority.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-4-idol-4s-leak-ahead-of-launch-671026/
Apparently this is my first discovery of a leak!

Damn that looks nice. I see it launches with Android 6.0! I'm not sure if that is good news or bad news for us Idol 3 owners.
The 4s might be my next phone.

Hi

Well, if Idol 3 doesn't get soon Marshmallow, my next phone won't be from Alcatel

STcraft said:
Looks like alcatel is producing a new version of the IDOL lineup!
link: http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/support/product?id=48929&model=IDOL 4S
http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/support/product?id=47305&model=IDOL 4
apparantly its running android m, features a 16MP camera, 2 or 3gb ram and 4S has AMOLED
might be wrong thread, but i just stumbled upon this on their wesite
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Thank you for showing us !

Similarly to how the 615 couldn't really push 1080p, I fell the 652 won't do well with QHD. So lag fest again.
Also, no way the Idol 4s is cheap.

http://www.androidauthority.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-4-idol-4s-leak-ahead-of-launch-671026/

bryanbreguet said:
Similarly to how the 615 couldn't really push 1080p, I fell the 652 won't do well with QHD. So lag fest again.
Also, no way the Idol 4s is cheap.
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652/510 is more like a 808/418 so i don't think it will lag. My moto x pure is smooth. Either way if they keep the same price of $250 I'll buy the 4s and play with it.

nothing special. new alcatel need good camera with OIS and microphone

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http://www.androidauthority.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-4-idol-4s-leak-ahead-of-launch-671026/
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LOL! alcatel apparantly deleted the pages and it's now on the news all around i guess!

Any words on release dates?
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bryanbreguet said:
similarly to how the 615 couldn't really push 1080p, i fell the 652 won't do well with qhd. So lag fest again.
Also, no way the idol 4s is cheap.
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wahere you get this nonsense kiddo? :d

DallasCZ said:
wahere you get this nonsense kiddo? :d
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What nonsense? Also, you can drop the condescending tone when you are asking questions.

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What nonsense? Also, you can drop the condescending tone when you are asking questions.
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You didnt answer the question.

The benchmarks show that it will be a powerful smartphone.
http://www.toolito.com/geek/alcatel-onetouch-idol-4-benchmarks/
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rlugo29 said:
Any words on release dates?
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No... Just information.
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The benchmarks show that it will be a powerful smartphone.
http://www.toolito.com/geek/alcatel-onetouch-idol-4-benchmarks/
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Wow!

DallasCZ said:
You didnt answer the question.
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Because you haven't explained what part of my original comment was nonsense.
Now maybe learn to read and stop being a dumbass. I'll gladly answer your question if you do.

Idol 4s shipping in a VR headset (and not cardboard but plastic):
http://www.gsmarena.com/put_the_alc...he_package_for_a_vr_experience-blog-16571.php

http://android.hdblog.it/2016/02/11/alcatel-idol-3-screenshot-marshmallow/
Is coming.....
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The Snapdragon 652 is on par or more powerful than Snapdragon 810. So this "oh snapdragon 652 on 2k = laggy" is pure speculation.
According to benchmarks, it's on par with the Xperia Z5 & The M9.
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Android N Beta is Here

............. And we're still begging for Marshmallow!
Yep. It's already available for Nexus devices and general beta release will be available within 24 hours. http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/screen-shots-android-n-beta-nexus-6p-t3332441

We'll get Marshmallow any time now and as for N, our xda developer will handle it .

W O W ! ! !

(sorry for my poor English)
x86-64 android is a dream.
nexus player uses intel z3560 (same as z008) and ROM made by "Google" but it's still 32bit android even N preview....

That's what we get for dealing with a company that isn't generally in the mobile device market like Samsung, Motorola, LG etc.... Our devices are just unlocked phones for use with multiple carriers and there is no real incentive for ASUS to update Firmware like there is for Samsung or another major manufacturer who makes carrier specific phones.

You bought a budget phone that is actually better than most. You know what you were getting for $200 bucks so stop complaining. Let me know when you buy your $800 premium phone. Until then stop the *****ing. Thank you good night
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I don't know what all of fuss is about. This phone is simply awesome for the price. I have had mine for 9 months now and I am still satisfied with it.
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quicksilver53 said:
I don't know what all of fuss is about. This phone is simply awesome for the price. I have had mine for 9 months now and I am still satisfied with it.
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I'm honestly not satisfied with mine.
I have to resort to custom rom to fix my STOCK ROM problems, connection drops and horrible RAM management along with apps reloading even when just pressing the recents button. Hell, my LG G2 with 2gb of RAM and on 6.0 doesn't even break a sweat with the same tasks while my Zenfone 2 does even though the Zenfone 2 scores higher on benchmarks,
Custom Roms have made this phone more than usable but it shouldn't be that way, Asus's software should of been able to provide me with the necessary fixes and such that it needed.

Frankenberrie said:
You bought a budget phone that is actually better than most. You know what you were getting for $200 bucks so stop complaining. Let me know when you buy your $800 premium phone. Until then stop the *****ing. Thank you good night
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Exactly! I have zero issues with mine other than the battery drain issue but that's a Lollipop issue. Always has been.

Christopher876 said:
I'm honestly not satisfied with mine.
I have to resort to custom rom to fix my STOCK ROM problems, connection drops and horrible RAM management along with apps reloading even when just pressing the recents button. Hell, my LG G2 with 2gb of RAM and on 6.0 doesn't even break a sweat with the same tasks while my Zenfone 2 does even though the Zenfone 2 scores higher on benchmarks,
Custom Roms have made this phone more than usable but it shouldn't be that way, Asus's software should of been able to provide me with the necessary fixes and such that it needed.
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are you seriously comparing a phone that launched at $600 to a $200 phone?
as for your issues, sounds like your just finding stuff to complain about 95% of everyone else doesnt have issues. just quit being salty about your budget phone not being as fast other peoples high end phone.

Frankenberrie said:
You bought a budget phone that is actually better than most. You know what you were getting for $200 bucks so stop complaining. Let me know when you buy your $800 premium phone. Until then stop the *****ing. Thank you good night
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I bought it for 300
And mother****er ever heard of xiaomi

MikeyLee said:
That's what we get for dealing with a company that isn't generally in the mobile device market like Samsung, Motorola, LG etc.... Our devices are just unlocked phones for use with multiple carriers and there is no real incentive for ASUS to update Firmware like there is for Samsung or another major manufacturer who makes carrier specific phones.
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Makes me wonder why Samsung is just as slow as ASUS with software updates...
The actual list of devices actually released globally with android M is still very low. It is not an ASUS problem specifically.

Twotems said:
............. And we're still begging for Marshmallow!
Yep. It's already available for Nexus devices and general beta release will be available within 24 hours. http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/screen-shots-android-n-beta-nexus-6p-t3332441
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You can forget ASUS releasing Android N for ZF2 but I guess we will have CM14 sooner than we thought.

kiettv12 said:
I bought it for 300
And mother****er ever heard of xiaomi
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Indeed they update quiet often.
But for me it's not compareable due to the many changes Xiaomi does. And even MiUi 7 is based on Android 5.1.1... released 5 Months ago...
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Hudrator said:
Indeed they update quiet often.
But for me it's not compareable due to the many changes Xiaomi does. And even MiUi 7 is based on Android 5.1.1... released 5 Months ago...
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redmi note 3 or 2 less then 200 will get M soon and will get N and whatever come later
will asus give u N ?

darkmage1991 said:
are you seriously comparing a phone that launched at $600 to a $200 phone?
as for your issues, sounds like your just finding stuff to complain about 95% of everyone else doesnt have issues. just quit being salty about your budget phone not being as fast other peoples high end phone.
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Besides the point as to how much I paid for my phones.
And who are these other people? I only mentioned MY usage between my LG G2 (from 2013) and Zenfone 2.
The fact is that, the Zenfone 2 scores higher in benchmarks meaning that it should outperform my LG G2 in performance which is not doing which is a problem. It will stutter in opening Chrome and using chrome while it completely smooth on the G2.
My next points were the issues I have with cellular connection and memory management. This is just poor on the stock rom, my connection drops every time and memory is filled at startup and if I use the startup manager I won't get my notifications, Now, on the custom roms, these two issues are fixed meaning that Asus could of fixed them themselves and made me have to resort to other means of getting these issues fixed. (I don't mind using custom roms as they are normally listening to people). That is not how a product should be, it should have been fixed on their stock software and not other software.
And if you have it that it is my cellular problem, then that is false because my other 3 phones have no problem in keeping the signal.

NO issues with ZF2 with CM12.1 and CM13, just minor beta problems that's all. We should be thankful to devs who made this possible, First when I saw the Bootloader hack I was excited, to my luck CM12.1 and CM13 made even custom kernels plus multiboot also, It's almost a nexus experience isn't it ? And N's only for Nexuses, they have the src,binaries and OTAs, that will never make to the normal devices....Even making the CM properly work took enough time with src that was available with 5.0.x releases for our phones, I think we should worry more about the 64Bit MM ASUS release

kiettv12 said:
redmi note 3 or 2 less then 200 will get M soon and will get N and whatever come later
will asus give u N ?
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Soon ? Imho 6 up to 9 Months with an major update.
Xiaomi is one of the best brands regarding updates and longtime support. But there is nothing compareable at the moment. And there won't. People aren't demanding, so why should there be development? There are enough users which doesn't bother. Or buy an new device after 24 months.
N for ZF2 ?
Who knows personally I don't think so.
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Hudrator said:
Soon ? Imho 6 up to 9 Months with an major update.
Xiaomi is one of the best brands regarding updates and longtime support. But there is nothing compareable at the moment. And there won't. People aren't demanding, so why should there be development? There are enough users which doesn't bother. Or buy an new device after 24 months.
N for ZF2 ?
Who knows personally I don't think so.
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M rolled out for mi4 on jan 5 so....
The point is asus suck

still waiting for the marshmallow