Motorola promise to not forget updates for this phone, and after a few months they drop support. We are not going to receive Marshmallow.
Motorola Promo in February:
So better to go for another phone and stay away from this.
Yes guys lets forget about this brand for good cuz even after selling millions they droped support im vetting rid of this cheap plasticy phone
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A good deal if you can get one for < $50, which is what the SD410 variant was going for in the US. I'll still use mine as a secondary device, but it would be nice to receive future stagefright fixes.
Runs great on 5.1
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well that was expected... I don't think that any phone on this price point will get 6.0 (expcet android one)
They only actually guaranteed "1" update which a couple devices have already received. I also know soak tests are still ongoing for some GSM variants...to be honest I'm not terribly upset. I picked up 4 of these for less than $220.00 for my work phones and they do the job. While not upset I am surprised given the nearly 18 month support to the 1st Gen Moto G and X...I did purchase a new X Style and I "hope" Lenovo and Motorola give it at least 2 version support.
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Moto/Lenovo betray us, basically. Only 6 months of system updates to Moto E 2nd gen. BTW we have AOSP, CM, so doesnt matter official updates.
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Dan_Jacques said:
Moto/Lenovo betray us, basically. Only 6 months of system updates to Moto E 2nd gen. BTW we have AOSP, CM, so doesnt matter official updates.
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If you have noticed, CyanogenMod is now "official" for both otus and surnia!
Moto E 2015 3G: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_otus
Moto E 2015 LTE: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_surnia
^ That's great Now let's hope will get to M soon.
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If you have noticed, CyanogenMod is now "official" for both otus and surnia!
Moto E 2015 3G: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_otus
Moto E 2015 LTE: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_surnia
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I refer to Motorola official updates :good:
Kind of don't like how they let their phones get locked down by carriers if the carrier asks them either. I guess they don't have the muscle of Google or Samsung or Apple to say no but it still pisses me off how they preached developer friendlyness and then lock their phones down for carriers every time. Wish the carriers would get regulated and become utilities faster they don't deserve the profits if they are going to act like monopolies.
Can any of you suggest a similar phone that will be getting marshmallow?
I'm looking for something with decent battery life, smaller than a nexus 5, a torch is bonus.
Don't care about price.
Edit: I might just buy this anyway and use CM - i'm sick of expensive phones with terrible battery life - would rather a cheap one with no updates that lasts for a while.
elliottlan said:
Can any of you suggest a similar phone that will be getting marshmallow?
I'm looking for something with decent battery life, smaller than a nexus 5, a torch is bonus.
Don't care about price.
Edit: I might just buy this anyway and use CM - i'm sick of expensive phones with terrible battery life - would rather a cheap one with no updates that lasts for a while.
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Buy the 2nd Gen of Android One. if it is available in your country. :good:
moto e 2015 do buy this phone
Just because you might not get marshmallow update so What, lollipop is still ok, get yourself a custom launcher to rid google now search home screen happy days. I don't expect to have this phone for ever for the price its cool, prob change every 6 months anywho.
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Buy the 2nd Gen of Android One. if it is available in your country. :good:
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yeh man
mickleoe said:
Just because you might not get marshmallow update so What, lollipop is still ok, get yourself a custom launcher to rid google now search home screen happy days. I don't expect to have this phone for ever for the price its cool, prob change every 6 months anywho.
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yeh man
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nice try motorola employer
Do you have 5.1? If yes then ok but if not you probably hasn't used any average phone before. This phone is very very slow and laggy on 5.0.2, I was using xpeira m (dual core low end phone, specs way worse than moto e) running cm11 and it was way way faster than this one...
surely I would be the Employee, or why would I b bothered replying to YOU! all I know is this budget phone has worked better for me than Samsung, and the sony I want I cant afford, if you had seen my last Q's you wouldn't b so quick to insult.
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nice try motorola employer
Do you have 5.1? If yes then ok but if not you probably hasn't used any average phone before. This phone is very very slow and laggy on 5.0.2, I was using xpeira m (dual core low end phone, specs way worse than moto e) running cm11 and it was way way faster than this one...
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I'm on 5.02 and this is one of the fastest phones i owned. My previous was Xperia Z1 and that bastard was very laggy one even with it's nice specs.
It´s a good phone, but what bothers me is the promise of updates and we will be in 5.0.2 forever.
What's a good alternate 4.5" android phone? That's the main reason I want a Moto E, that it's physically small. I find even the Moto G way too big to use with one hand.
(Oh, and a microSD slot. And a decent battery. You know, so I can actually use the phone.)
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What's a good alternate 4.5" android phone? That's the main reason I want a Moto E, that it's physically small. I find even the Moto G way too big to use with one hand.
(Oh, and a microSD slot. And a decent battery. You know, so I can actually use the phone.)
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There are similar priced LG phones with sd410, few similar models. Maybe their software isn't so good but there is always unofficial support. At least they have flashlight. You can check Moto G lte too (1st gen), with 4.4.4 it's smooth like butter.
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In this interview with Alcatel's North America president, he's indicated that there are lots of pleasant surprises coming:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/alcatel-interview-cistulli,news-21237.html
I'm curious about the different idol3 versions he mentions. Maybe we'll see a 32gb version?
I was really excited about this till I read the fine print where he states "by the end of the year". Quite a ways a way and we got a lot more phones coming out to compete with this bad boy. I know once this guy get 5.1.1 it will fly!
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Well, if they do upgrade it, this is all that matters. I could not care less if I have to wait a little more or less, as long as it will be upgraded, and it will be protected against bugs.
I like having upgrades that are stable and are not causing more bad than good.
It sounds there really pushing to get way from the low end to the mid level. I hope they succeed, I just got a idol 3. I like it so far, but until I switch service from verizon to at&t.
I'm excited at all the competition that came about from motorola making the 1st gen moto g. I think this changed companies minds about the mid level devices. But the good stable software updates will keep the customers.
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today i have a conversation with czech republic ALcatel onetouch tech. support and they told me that in 2-3 weeks there will be a next update and then every 1-2 months.
I am trying to make him send me the boot.img
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I was really excited about this till I read the fine print where he states "by the end of the year". Quite a ways a way and we got a lot more phones coming out to compete with this bad boy. I know once this guy get 5.1.1 it will fly!
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I am more than used to waiting over 6 months for a major OTA, the fact they will continue support for this phone is fantastic news. Alcatel hasn't been exactly great about this in the past.
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It sounds there really pushing to get way from the low end to the mid level. I hope they succeed, I just got a idol 3. I like it so far, but until I switch service from verizon to at&t.
I'm excited at all the competition that came about from motorola making the 1st gen moto g. I think this changed companies minds about the mid level devices. But the good stable software updates will keep the customers.
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Moto G is budget, it wasn't until the 615 Snaps from China started shipping that we got real mid-range contenders for the West. That and Zen2 of course...
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I am more than used to waiting over 6 months for a major OTA, the fact they will continue support for this phone is fantastic news. Alcatel hasn't been exactly great about this in the past.
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Moto G is budget, it wasn't until the 615 Snaps from China started shipping that we got real mid-range contenders for the West. That and Zen2 of course...
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I would call the Moto e budget. Moto g is mid/low range. It was still the first nice cheap android phone.
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I would call the Moto e budget. Moto g is mid/low range. It was still the first nice cheap android phone.
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This is 2015, with the intro of the 615 the 400 line is budget.
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...d-upgrade-report-card-marshmallow.html?page=2
A BIG FAT "F"
Length of time for upgrade to reach current flagship: 65 days (51.6/60 points)
Length of time for upgrade to reach previous-gen flagship: 74 days for the unlocked model -- though with all U.S. carrier models abandoned (0/30 points)
Communication: Poor (0/10 points)
An Android manufacturer has never fallen as fast and hard as what we've seen with Motorola these past couple years. In a matter of months, Moto went from being the shining example of what an Android device-maker should be to being a bitter disappointment Android fans won't soon forgive. (So much for that "nothing will change" transition in ownership, right?)
Following last year's 65% "D" grade for Android upgrades, the Lenovo-owned Motorola gets a big fat embarrassing "F" for the mess it made of this year's Marshmallow rollout. While it did do a reasonably decent (though nowhere near the standard it had maintained in the past) job at getting Android 6.0 out to its current and previous-gen flagships, it did so with one major asterisk: the outright abandonment of all U.S. carrier models of its barely-one-year-old 2014 device.
Worse yet, Motorola stayed insultingly silent on the subject, without so much as an explanation -- let alone any sort of attempt to make things right with customers who had bought into its "ongoing reliable upgrades" message. It was a slap in the face to those who trusted the company, and even if Motorola recovers and manages to do decently well moving forward, it's an incident smartphone shoppers would be wise to remember.
They were excellent when it came to 2013 devices...but those were before the Lenovo takeover if I remember correctly
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
I really think we won't see it, like the Moto X Play 2014. We'll just get an out-of-the-blue message saying "SORRY". My next phone will be a Nexus, i'm done with Motonovo
Yep, l thinking about a Nexus myself, and see what Project Fi is all about. Sick of Verizon also.
Yea i'm on the same boat as you guys. Nexus may be my next phone.
im still not ready to leave my turbo, i dont need their updates. we have our own right here.
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
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In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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Metfanant said:
In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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i think the lenovo has make every dev-guys to run their VIBE rom project，their 2014 device named k3note has already update to mm。
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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alex_is_the_1 said:
I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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No, both are equally at fault. If it were only on Verizon then the non Turbo branded quark devices would already be updated.
alex_is_the_1 said:
I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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VZW had no problem pushing the updates for the 2013 Droids...they were the first non-nexus phones to get updates...
Wanna know what the difference was? Those phones were made when Google owned Motorola...our phones are under the control of Lenovo...
I have no love for VZW...and while they may slow things down in many cases, the fact remains...if a quality update is delivered to them, they will push it out...
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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No sir...
The Moto X update to Kit Kat was pushed out starting Nov 19th according to this article...and it was the FIRST to get it...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ryone-by-updating-its-moto-x-to-kitkat-first/
Just a month later the update had finished soak testing and was starting to get pushed to the Droid line...
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/1...-4-kit-kat-update-starting-today/#more-127805
I wouldn't call that lagging way behind at all...it was still quicker than most phones...
As I've always said...VZW sucks, but they had no problem getting updates out to Moto devices when Google ran the show...so I blame Lenovo...
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Yeah I saw that too, the Maxx 2 came out in Oct and I think this is its first update. I used one briefly but it had screen issues so ended up returning it for another turbo.
Just filled out a droid turbo soak test survey let's hope this is a good sign of things to come
I also received an invitation for this.
I thought I signed up for these, but have never gotten one. I really hope this means we get Marshmallow soon!
I guess they didn't like my feedback from the last soak. I haven't gotten anything.
I do hardly believe that Moto X style/pure might get N but there is no official news about it...
I tweeted Moto_Us and Moto_India but got same reply that
"We currently have no info.. For more info kindly stay updated"
Even Moto/Lenovo didnt make any announcement..
Whats going on?
Anyone has ideas what the truth is??
no problem ..custom roms here :laugh::fingers-crossed:
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no problem ..custom roms here :laugh::fingers-crossed:
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Who has made any custom roms or what guarantee that who will make it??
Cm is already working on it.
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guarenteed will not be a problem. lol. gotta love the devs out there crankin roms and ports out. #unlockedbootloader
Voted no only because I'm doubtful we'll get it officially, but as the other people have said... custom roms bro.
I think it will get 7.0 by the end of the year. It got 6.0 pretty fast, and is still pretty much the flagship of Motorola. People just lost hope because of the ignored 6.0.1 update. I'm hoping to switch back to a Nexus anyway so I don't have to worry about updates anymore.
https://www.android.com/phones/
Being one of the few devices on official android site I think means we're getting 7.0 pretty soon
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https://www.android.com/phones/
Being one of the few devices on official android site I think means we're getting 7.0 pretty soon
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That site has been mentioned before... It has nothing to do with Nougat, just Android in general. The fact it appears there is not relevant.
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I think it will get 7.0 by the end of the year. It got 6.0 pretty fast, and is still pretty much the flagship of Motorola. People just lost hope because of the ignored 6.0.1 update. I'm hoping to switch back to a Nexus anyway so I don't have to worry about updates anymore.
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But is it still a flagship with the new Moto Z's coming out? Way things have gone with Lenovo I'd not put money on it BUT never say never.
Well, if they abandon any real support for this phone in one year, I won't be coming back to Lenovo/Motorola. I'll just have to decide if expandable memory is still a deal maker/breaker with the next gen and go Nexus or something else.
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Well, if they abandon any real support for this phone in one year, I won't be coming back to Lenovo/Motorola. I'll just have to decide if expandable memory is still a deal maker/breaker with the next gen and go Nexus or something else.
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Agreed!
Android 7 will be there!!!
With X-Style there aren't any technical/hardware issue or even a minor reason for not supporting the Android 7. So with this the liability of providing or not providing Android 7 will be with Motorola (Lenovo). Providing with Latest Android version being a USP of Moto phones, there is very chance that they will not risk reputation with this phone by excluding the update.
In-case this is not done for some reason then my steps would be:
1) Root and install Android 7 rom.
2) Buy a new Nexus phone.
3) Collect Invoice of all my Moto phone (Namely: Moto G (8gb), Moto G (16gb), Moto E (4gb), Moto G3, Moto G Turbo, Moto X Style).
4) Submit the collected Invoice plus the nexus invoice to Motorola with update as why they lost a loyal customer.
*Infact I was planing this for the delayed patch, and made my disappointment by tweeting the same to motorola. Were they assured me of early notification of update.*
[rant] motorola sucks/how to kill a perfectly good device
Motorola/Lenovo service has been horrible both in replacing defective hardware and with software updates even though they committed to timely release! They will probably at some point release Nougat on this device but really how long will it take (see where we are with MM updates!!) ? And as far as custom roms are concerned we're seeing so little developper activity for this device that I think everyone has already moved on! This was my first non-Nexus device in a long while and I'm not eager to duplicate the experience. It's really too bad as I really liked the Moto X pure. :crying:
Ffs these threads need to stop. Yes the Moto x pure 2015 will get 7. IT WILL TAKE TIME release of n is rolling out give it a few months
Guys good news
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_clark/tree/cm-14.0
Eta 3 Weeks i guess....
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Sagar_1401 said:
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_clark/tree/cm-14.0
Eta 3 Weeks i guess...
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Interesting, but that's CM.
I think people on this thread are wanting stock.
GretaLewd said:
Interesting, but that's CM.
I think people on this thread are wanting stock.
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true that but we dont have an official announcement abt update but do check this
http://www.alphr.com/google/1004331/when-will-i-get-android-n-on-my-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/pure-to-n-t3455057/post68785882
Silarn said:
Well, if they abandon any real support for this phone in one year, I won't be coming back to Lenovo/Motorola. I'll just have to decide if expandable memory is still a deal maker/breaker with the next gen and go Nexus or something else.
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The ZTE Axon 7 looks a lot like the X Pure, except with software support. They announced that they will be assisting Cyanogenmod.
Some official news from Moto today, not good for us... from Moto's Official Blog
Here’s the full list of our smartphones that will be getting Nougat:
Moto G (4th Gen)
Moto G Plus (4th Gen)
Moto G Play (4th Gen)
Moto X Pure Edition (3rd Gen)
Moto X Style
Moto X Play
Moto X Force
Droid Turbo 2
Droid Maxx 2
Moto Z
Moto Z Droid
Moto Z Force Droid
Moto Z Play
Moto Z Play Droid
Nexus 6
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Moto G 2015 and Moto G Turbo are noticeably missing from the list... as well as all E models. A real let down.
Good thing we have great developers already working it for us.
With even more job cuts recently, I was beginning to suspect this would happen. There are now too many variations of handsets and too few engineers. At-least that's how it seems from the outside.
The worst part is that very little additional effort should be required to make an Osprey / Merlin release - considering Moto G Play (4th Gen) is near identical hardware.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7247&idPhone2=8104
Disappointing. A big reason why I chose this phone was Motorola's track record from previous generations (which admittedly was showing signs of breakdown even then). Doesn't really matter anymore now that I have a custom rom though...
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The worst part is that very little additional effort should be required to make an Osprey / Merlin release - considering Moto G Play (4th Gen) is near identical hardware.
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Okay, all problems aside, let's assume that they do indeed make an update to Nougat. How long would it take to develop with the already diminished amount of developers? The Marshmallow update took around 4 months if I'm not mistaken, and that was before a wave of lay-offs.
But it was clearly written when the turbo was launched...that it will get update upto android N....
This is extremely disappointing...i will never buy a moto phone again.
Going to **** at their Twitter account..
mmm .. why are they doing like Samsung
at this rate, no one will like Moto in india (as we have so many powerful competitors )
they cant make sales go up unless given us good support to old phones, the only reason i am proud of MotoDevices is that the fact it delivered fast updates till now..
hands down to Moto
When i purchased a Moto G3,my main focus was on getting software updates,thanks to the near stock Android experience.I overlooked many of the competitors priced more affordably,had bigger displays with better resolution and had more powerful processors and better battery life.I was only disappointed to see that it is to be supported for only one Android version update that is to marshmallow and no Nougat even if the hardware supports(seeing how well it runs on Nougat roms thanks to the developers).I think next time I should consider buying a phone with good hardware,eg. Redmi Note 3 and then flash a ROM in it to get the best of both worlds.
Even Redmi Note 3 has good developer support and has been successfully running Nougat 7.0.Heavily disappointed by LenovoMoto.
Now no confusion about SoC becoz same SoC phone getting Nougat. Really disappointed with Motorola about Moto g3. Now Motorola is not Motorola its Lenovo
Guys I was reading online, It is likely that the Moto G3 will also get the update. The problem is that this will only happen later, close to january.
there is still suspense on g3. maybe or not we got exciting news like last year g2 got MM update after a very long announcement(I think in December)
Probably the biggest reason osprey doesn't get N is because the chipset does not support Vulkan or openGL3.1 (like the 800 and 801 devices).
Merlin is the worst handset I received from Moto... No official remade or custom ROMs...
Waiting for 17th Oct for Moto Z Play release or get an IPhone at least its guranteed 4 years support...
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Probably the biggest reason osprey doesn't get N is because the chipset does not support Vulkan or openGL3.1 (like the 800 and 801 devices).
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Check the official list .their is a Moto G4 Play. Which have same Chipset as Moto G3. I think Motorola don't want to upgrade Moto G3
Malgotra said:
Check the official list .their is a Moto G4 Play. Which have same Chipset as Moto G3. I think Motorola don't want to upgrade Moto G3
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Yeah that's weird. But their isn't any other explanation, apart from the 1 gb variant not capable maybe
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Yeah that's weird. But their isn't any other explanation, apart from the 1 gb variant not capable maybe
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I'm sure you are correct in that Vulkan / openGL3.1 is a key factor. However, to drop the upgrade for Moto G Play (4th Gen) so soon would cause a lot of bad media coverage.
Osprey / Merlin can run Stock Motorola Nougat - they even have a faster chipset - but it just looks like they had to draw a line somewhere on the list of devices to support.
I am wondering about the Motorola Moto E (3rd gen) being released only in September 2016. Perhaps because it has a limited market (Mediatek chipset main cause of not updating?) - the amount of protesting users will be very limited. I still expect some bad press over that decision.
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Okay, all problems aside, let's assume that they do indeed make an update to Nougat. How long would it take to develop with the already diminished amount of developers? The Marshmallow update took around 4 months if I'm not mistaken, and that was before a wave of lay-offs.
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From my perspective the majority of the development work is already done. However you have to consider the time and effort to trial / test the firmware running on Osprey / Merlin and then possibly resolving some small issues.
debopriyobasu said:
When i purchased a Moto G3,my main focus was on getting software updates,thanks to the near stock Android experience.I overlooked many of the competitors priced more affordably,had bigger displays with better resolution and had more powerful processors and better battery life.I was only disappointed to see that it is to be supported for only one Android version update that is to marshmallow and no Nougat even if the hardware supports(seeing how well it runs on Nougat roms thanks to the developers).I think next time I should consider buying a phone with good hardware,eg. Redmi Note 3 and then flash a ROM in it to get the best of both worlds.
Even Redmi Note 3 has good developer support and has been successfully running Nougat 7.0.Heavily disappointed by LenovoMoto.
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Look forward bro...u can find nougat rom for g3 also....
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$lim $hady said:
Merlin is the worst handset I received from Moto... No official remade or custom ROMs...
Waiting for 17th Oct for Moto Z Play release or get an IPhone at least its guranteed 4 years support...
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R u drunk bro?
reeeju said:
Look forward bro...u can find nougat rom for g3 also....
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yes i am using one....but that doesn't overshadow the fact that we got ONLY ONE major Android version update and poor security patch update support for a device close to stock. I know posting these stuff on XDA wouldn't bring Nougat officially to my device,this is just like saying to myself.Custom ROMs are almost never as stable as stock and I seriously miss Moto Display on custom ROMs.
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debopriyobasu said:
reeeju said:
Look forward bro...u can find nougat rom for g3 also....
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yes i am using one....but that doesn't overshadow the fact that we got ONLY ONE major Android version update and poor security patch update support for a device close to stock. I know posting these stuff on XDA wouldn't bring Nougat officially to my device,this is just like saying to myself.Custom ROMs are almost never as stable as stock and I seriously miss Moto Display on custom ROMs.
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Moto display sometimes makes horrible problem.....:crying:
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Even tho we have custom roms, it kinda stinks. I'm disappointed, for a device only one year old. A shame. It seems like no OEM cares about updates, and quite frankly, why should they? They're not making any money from releasing software updates, as Google is the one reaping the profits with their ads. Ugh.
Am I the only who it thinks that they will update it? The same occurred with the Moto E and marshmallow.
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So, last year we didn't really succeed to reach the goal of the petition to Motorola to upgrade our phones to Nougat.
This year, I believe that Moto will see this request and make an Official Oreo for the Moto G³/Turbo Edition.
Please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/2xT6skv
It may seem hopeless by now, but the hope dies last. A Christmas miracle may occur!
I hate to say this ,but this ain't gonna happen bro.No Christmas miracle this year.
Apurba99 said:
I hate to say this ,but this ain't gonna happen bro.No Christmas miracle this year.
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That just seems to be the case. But don't be that negative. Let's be honest - we won't lose anything if we at least try. It won't matter for me, personally, if Moto decides to not update the phone. But it's important for the other users. Some of them may be tech-savy but just don't want to risk damaging their device. Others may just want a stock variant of a ROM available in XDA. and the non-techsavy people don't care about updates because they don't understand them anyway. If Moto doesn't push the update to the people that don't understand computers, those people may think their battery life is worse than the other phones because Moto G³ is "a bad phone". They don't care about software. Everyone knows friends like this. But the Moto G³ is not an obsolete device. It has nice specs for Android Oreo, and even better specs for Android GO.
So, I personally believe that Moto will at least start to think, whether or not they should abandon their next phones after several months.
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That just seems to be the case. But don't be that negative. Let's be honest - we won't lose anything if we at least try. It won't matter for me, personally, if Moto decides to not update the phone. But it's important for the other users. Some of them may be tech-savy but just don't want to risk damaging their device. Others may just want a stock variant of a ROM available in XDA. and the non-techsavy people don't care about updates because they don't understand them anyway. If Moto doesn't push the update to the people that don't understand computers, those people may think their battery life is worse than the other phones because Moto G³ is "a bad phone". They don't care about software. Everyone knows friends like this. But the Moto G³ is not an obsolete device. It has nice specs for Android Oreo, and even better specs for Android GO.
So, I personally believe that Moto will at least start to think, whether or not they should abandon their next phones after several months.
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Hope developers soon bring ROM of Android GO for osprey.Just imagine how fast our device will be.LOVE FOR OSPREY ?
Apurba99 said:
Hope developers soon bring ROM of Android GO for osprey.Just imagine how fast our device will be.LOVE FOR OSPREY
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There is a fully-fledged Android Oreo ROM available. There is no reason why you would want Android GO. It's a water-downed version of Android Oreo. I said Android GO as a stock ROM if it is better for the Moto G³.
The moto G4 probably won't get oreo.. why would our device get it?
M1810 said:
The moto G4 probably won't get oreo.. why would our device get it?
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Because it didn't get Nougat.
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Because it didn't get Nougat.
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Yeah, that won't happen any time soon.. this is lenovo remember? Also no company has ever bumped a device for example from 5.0 to 7.0, as far as i know.
Hmm... That may be the case here, too (I'm 98% sure). But the thing is - Moto should learn from their mistakes. I think that it's a mistake to guarantee "2 year full support" and then dump the device after just several months.
It won't happen, stop wasting time
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I know it won't happen
I don't even believe it. The thing is, there should be somethig to catch Motorola's eyes. They actually still want to do only one major OS upgrade per device. Source - Motorola Official Blog - Say hello to Android Oreo:
Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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I don't even believe it. The thing is, there should be somethig to catch Motorola's eyes. They actually still want to do only one major OS upgrade per device. Source - Motorola Official Blog - Say hello to Android Oreo:
Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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Well, every older Moto G device (falcon, titan) recieved 2 major OS updates (falcon: Android Kitkat and Lollipop) (Titan: Lollipop and Marshamallow), meaning that the Moto G 2015 family (osprey and merlin) are the first and only moto g family to recieve only 1 major OS update. The G4 Play and the Moto X Style have the same or lower specs than the Moto G3 and G3 Turbo, but they DID recieve nougat, so the "too low specs" answer is just a lie. I personally own this device, and I´m using the 8GB version, wich might be a little too slow for Nougat or Oreo, but the 16GB and Turbo Variants would run those OS without any problem.
Randonio said:
Well, every older Moto G device (falcon, titan) recieved 2 major OS updates (falcon: Android Kitkat and Lollipop) (Titan: Lollipop and Marshamallow), meaning that the Moto G 2015 family (osprey and merlin) are the first and only moto g family to recieve only 1 major OS update. The G4 Play and the Moto X Style have the same or lower specs than the Moto G3 and G3 Turbo, but they DID recieve nougat, so the "too low specs" answer is just a lie. I personally own this device, and I´m using the 8GB version, wich might be a little too slow for Nougat or Oreo, but the 16GB and Turbo Variants would run those OS without any problem.
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Well, considering we got android oreo custom roms means that we DO have the specs for the updates, i think we will even get android 9 thabks to our developers. (I'm also on the 8Gb model, i'm out of space for sure but oreo runs perfectly)
M1810 said:
Well, considering we got android oreo custom roms means that we DO have the specs for the updates, i think we will even get android 9 thabks to our developers. (I'm also on the 8Gb model, i'm out of space for sure but oreo runs perfectly)
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Well, i havent tested oreo on this device yet, because it is in alpha and this is my daily driver. But i believe your word
I'm running Oreo now. Why waste time on something that will never happen?
KrisM22 said:
I'm running Oreo now. Why waste time on something that will never happen?
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Never say never