As slowly more and more operators have started to support VoLTE still ASUS is adamant that they won't support it as it is not needed. I had opened a thread on Zentalk forum yet ASUS reply was that this wasn't needed. Here is the thread http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=59261
But while searching their forum, same ASUS representative stated that ASUS has started the implementation of the same feature on ZD551KL. Here is the thread http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=62655&highlight=volte
On one had they dismiss the need of feature by saying that its not needed and on other hand they are ready to implement on the cheaper device.
Why is ASUS showing double standards?
Well it appears that they decided to include it in a future ota. They did not double standard anything. The post in the second link is more recent than the post in the first link. All this shows is that they considered the idea and decided to run with it if their developers can make it work. If it rolls out in an ota for a cheaper model chances are it will also roll out for all other compatible devices in a future ota. People really need to think about things like this before jumping to conclusions and just placing blame right away as it just discourages them from trying to listen to consumers and try to work with their wants or needs as all they get in return is negativity and disrespect.
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I would have accepted your statement but now they have started to get away saying that there is no hardware support. http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=61972&pid=292081
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I would have accepted your statement but now they have started to get away saying that there is no hardware support. http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=61972&pid=292081
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That post is still older than the post in the second link in your first thread by 7 days. Maybe they looked into it further and realized they were wrong. Get yourself a more recent post than the 11th of this month.
Can I ask you something though? I been searching on the net for an hour now and I can't find 1 credible source that confirms or denies that all lte devices can do volte with new software. Can you please post your source which says that it's completely a software related thing if you have an LTE radio? Please note forums such as Reddit are not reliable sources.
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From what I've read the soc needs a encoder/decoder for volte to work. When looking for the specs on the moorefield Intel states its goal was to have volte capability by 2013 but doesn't say if that goal was ever accomplished.
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A simple query on google " volte implementation guidelines" gives you ample links towards that
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[/COLOR]From what I've read the soc needs a encoder/decoder for volte to work. When looking for the specs on the moorefield Intel states its goal was to have volte capability by 2013 but doesn't say if that goal was ever accomplished.
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http://ark.intel.com/products/77507/Intel-XMM-7262
This is the LTE radio used in our zenfone 2. You can see the official specs which mentions VoLTE is supported. So now do you agree with me that ASUS is misleading?
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http://ark.intel.com/products/77507/Intel-XMM-7262
This is the LTE radio used in our zenfone 2. You can see the official specs which mentions VoLTE is supported. So now do you agree with me that ASUS is misleading?
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Edit: I missed it the 7260 is compatible but the quote you pointed out earlier sounded more like a language barrier issue and you took it the wrong way after reading it again. I think what they were trying to say to that guy was it's not a hardware issue but it just translated poorly. We will just have to wait and see.
I'm willing to bet it's on their to do list as the post from the 11th stated even though it was on another device but it probably just got added to the list I'm sure they will announce it for the 551ml soon.
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Edit: I missed it the 7260 is compatible but the quote you pointed out earlier sounded more like a language barrier issue and you took it the wrong way after reading it again. I think what they were trying to say to that guy was it's not a hardware issue but it just translated poorly. We will just have to wait and see.
I'm willing to bet it's on their to do list as the post from the 11th stated even though it was on another device but it probably just got added to the list I'm sure they will announce it for the 551ml soon.
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Our phone uses the 7260 not the 7262 but it's almost the the same thing
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/66648/Intel-XMM-7260#@product/specifications
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Sorry to burst your bubble but XMM 7260 has VoLTE as its product feature. Google " XMM 7260 VoLTE". First link provides you with the data sheet of the chip and you can see for yourself.
Moreover you are not very well informed. Here is a news article from Intel directly where they mention XMM 7262 is the LTE chip for our zenfone 2. Please use google extensively
http://newsroom.intel.com/community...mentum-continues-in-china-with-asus-zenfone-2
Software update should get it working and I think Asus will probably do it eventually as it's where phones are heading to in the future. Good luck and sorry for the misunderstanding.
Add long as the phone supports operating on the 800MHz, the phone is capable of VoLTE.
johnny
When samsung in their add said, don't b johnny and buy a real 4g phone, no one believed it, and now they are crying like johnny for volte
I think ZenFone 2 support VoLTE after Marshmallow update. Go dial this *#*#4636#*#* & then select device information.
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When samsung in their add said, don't b johnny and buy a real 4g phone, no one believed it, and now they are crying like johnny for volte
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what does Samsung has special in their phone which makes it true 4G. i think they are johnny who buy Samsung at high price when they can buy same or better hardware with half of price.... don't be johnny to see those luring advertisements.
VOLTE is a must feature now! we want VOLTE i have no hopes from asus ...i just hope custom roms do the needfull!
hey Asus people... please release Volte for our phone..
VoLTE support is a feature of the processor on the device. The ZD551KL has a Snapdragon processor. Our ZF2's do not.
The feature can be turned “on” or “off” by the device manufacturer by means of a software update.
The devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, 412, 415, 430, 615, 616, 617, 618, 620, 800, 801, 805, 808, 810 and 820 supports the VoLTE and also supports the VoLTE customization features.
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VoLTE support is a feature of the processor on the device. The ZD551KL has a Snapdragon processor. Our ZF2's do not.
The feature can be turned “on” or “off” by the device manufacturer by means of a software update.
The devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, 412, 415, 430, 615, 616, 617, 618, 620, 800, 801, 805, 808, 810 and 820 supports the VoLTE and also supports the VoLTE customization features.
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Actually that's not correct the processor is not responsible for VoLTE the radio is. It just happens that Snapdragon processors have the LTE radio integrated into them which is not the case with the ZF2. However the Intel XMM 7260 LTE radio in the ZF2 does have VoLTE support it's just a matter of ASUS enabling the capability.
Asus said that it's a 'huge' engineering effort and in development. Can anyone explain how? Is it because this chipset never had modem drivers before this phone while snapdragons are fairly common? They're not providing any info anymore. Also, if they do update the firmware, how hard will it be to add the support to custom roms? I've modified my cm13 to a point where going back to stock would be painful
any new update about volte support on Asus zenfone 2 ze551ml?
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any new update about volte support on Asus zenfone 2 ze551ml?
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It seems only for selfie
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=62655&extra=&highlight=volte&page=10
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Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.
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Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.
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There will be Exynos OctaCore with LTE
like S III QuadCore with LTE
however Samsung confirm it for some regions like S.Korea
So u can buy it and enjoy
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Samsung said 70% of the first 10 million galaxy S4 will be S600 proc because of some problems in Exynos production ...
Roms were interchangeable between all the American snapdragon S4 with a few tweaks by devs.
Most likely it will be the same case with all the sd600 Roms. So development will be easier.
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Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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In a short answer is yes it will be more popular as 70% is getting quadcore.
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Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.
Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200908
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Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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Who knows. The CDMA guys are always in their own land. I'm not sure if sbrissen did any work with the Qcom-based GS3s.
I think some of the guys who do work on d2vzw and d2spr are semi-interested, however, at least some of them are questioning whether they can justify a device purchase already, and most of them are (like myself) not fans of user donations.
There's also the fact that with each iteration, Samsung is getting much better at locking down Verizon devices. Don't count on this next iteration getting cracked rapidly.
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No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?
True.
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So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?
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It is a real pain to deal with when you don't have proper documentation to work with. Add in the fact that Samsung flat out lied to devs and you have why they are willing to leave the OEM. To be honest I think in the end most devs will end up on the nexus so they don't have to deal with closed source BS from the OEMs. How many cores the device has is not really a problem as it doesn't effect alot. I have had both of the S3 and they run the same. Mix in the fact that the extra 4 cores won't do anything for performance and android is not really able to take advantage of them. Muti level threading on android is still not up to par for anything other then a dual core device.
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70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.
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Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.
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Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.
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They already moved to Xperia Z
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Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?
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Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?
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dladz said:
To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
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Wont matter as Samsung refuses to release proper documentation on any Exynos chip. So even if every samsung had the same chip development would be slow going.
Is there a way for devs to write a kernel that enables exynos 64 bit on lollipop if samsung didnt implement it? And what are the needs to do such a job?
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Is there a way for devs to write a kernel that enables exynos 64 bit on lollipop if samsung didnt implement it? And what are the needs to do such a job?
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It only enable if samsung allow us on android 5 lollipop
I think there is no dev can do it
Guys!
I am thinking about Note 4 purchase, but x64 mode is very important for me. So I decided to choose 910C (Exynos) version, but unfortunately, Samsung lock this device on 32-bit mode.
Is there any chance, that Exynos Note 4 will get 64-bit mode on Android 5.0?
What you think about that:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg39499.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg39710.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg39506.html
According to this article by the renowned Exynos developer, Andreilux, it seems likely that Samsung will never update the Note 4 to run on 64-bit:
The big question is why Samsung choose to name this chip Exynos 5433 and not market it as a 64-bit chip in a new product lineup? The answer could be simply that we won't ever see the 5433 running in AArch64 mode. The chip's firmware and drivers are running on a "CAL" / Chip-Abstraction-Layer on the lowest level of the driver stacks. In fact, beyond the CPU cores (and GPU), the Exynos 5433 looks very similar to the Exynos 5430 which employs A15/A7 cores.
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Also this post sums up the current situation and the future possibilities very well.
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@AndreiLux is one of if not the most prominent kernel developer(s) on XDA. There's a bounty on the forum trying to convince him to write a kernel for the Exynos Note 4. He's the author of this article on AnandTech discussing 5433. It's pretty straight forward. 5433 is 64 bit capable but running in 32 bit mode. He's said multiple times in this thread that third parties can't get it working in 64 bit alone so it's up to Samsung. If he's saying it can't be done I'd take that over some lesser sources saying it can. Samsung's never mentioned that 5433 is 64 bit capable in any of their PR or interviews either.
To make things even more interesting, Samsung announced Exynos 7 as a future chip. Here's the official Exynos 7 B2B website.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/m/solution.html#?v=7octa
Unless I'm missing it, no where on it does it mention 64 bit. Has anyone seen a press release from Samsung directly saying Exynos 7 is 64 bit? The press covering it have been saying it is but it's odd, at least from what I've found, that there's nothing saying so from Samsung. @AndreiLux can comment but Exynos 7 appears to be identical or near identical to 5433 specs wise.
Possibilities:
5422 was a near identical chip to 5420 and the former shipped with HMP enabled. We all know Samsung could have gone back and updated 5420 and didn't. So Exynos 7 could end up being an updated 5433 with 64 bit capabilities and a new model number leaving 5433 to remain 32 bit.
Exynos 7 is really 5433 with a new name and when it starts shipping under that new name will have 64 bit enabled. Samsung will via s/w update versions that shipped as 32 bit to 64 bit.
Samsung could care less about any of this knowing that the masses don't buy devices based on processor better yet the difference between HMP vs. non-HMP and 32 bit vs. 64 bit. Especially when it'll take many months for a critical mass of 64 bit Android devices to be in people's hands for app developers to start investing in coding for it. People on XDA care about this stuff; the masses not so much. How many people traded in six month old Note 3's for SGS5's simply to get HMP? Tens?
My guess is #3. Samsung will introduce 64 bit, probably with much fanfare, knowing it's not going to sell more devices but extracting PR value from it. Unless some major change in their thinking occurs the 64 bit version of 5433 will have a new model number and 5433 will die 32 bit. All just my opinion. You're all welcome to believe and debate your own. Bottom line is no one here (me included) can do anything but speculate what Samsung's future SoC product and positioning plans are and how they'll treat previously released products from an upgrade stand point.
Believe what makes you happy.
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So to answer the OP, no developer can enable 64-bit.
And there are some serious doubts as to whether even Samsung will do it.
It's all up in the air and you will not get any definitive answers.
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So to answer the OP, no developer can enable 64-bit.
And there are some serious doubts as to whether even Samsung will do it.
It's all up in the air and you will not get any definitive answers.
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Thanks!
I wonder if we could get some predictions when Samsung will update Note 4 Exynos to Android 5.0. If they won't able the x64 mode at the beginning, we shouldn't expect any changes in future months. Why? Because Samsung will focus on Galaxy S6 (probably THE FIRST x64 device from Samsung), and after that we will little close to Note 5 premiere.
It's all because of marketing & PR! I hate it!
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Thanks!
I wonder if we could get some predictions when Samsung will update Note 4 Exynos to Android 5.0.
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It will be January 2015, at least that's when the staged rollout is rumoured to begin. It will be relatively soon, as the S5 has already been updated and a fully working test build for the Note 4 has been shown in a video courtesy of Sammobile.
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It will be January 2015, at least that's when the staged rollout is rumoured to begin. It will be relatively soon, as the S5 has already been updated and a fully working test build for the Note 4 has been shown in a video courtesy of Sammobile.
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Do you think that this update will give us some proofs about x64 mode on Note 4?
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Do you think that this update will give us some proofs about x64 mode on Note 4?
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I think it will either enable x64 or it will not. I'm not sure whether it will give us any sort of proof. We already know the processor is capable.
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Guys, everyone. I think there's a way to do that. Trying it out right now. Wish me luck. I just found where you can set those stuff up!!!!!!!
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Well, I tried to use the Nexus 9 build settings that had a 64bit option set to arm64-v8a on my Exynos Note 4 running 5.0.1 Lollipop but unfortunately, I think because of us being octa-core kinda deal, it won't work. I'm waiting for the galaxy s6 to get out there so that I could use that guy's settings. After all, their processors are one and the only difference is the frequency.
how do you know the s6 is running in 64 bit mode ? it has only 3GB RAM which makes me think it is also running in 32 bit mode.
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how do you know the s6 is running in 64 bit mode ? it has only 3GB RAM which makes me think it is also running in 32 bit mode.
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No it was advertised as running 64 bit. That has nothing to do with it.
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http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1926938
Says Geekbench 3.3.1 for Android AArch64 means it's 64bit
that looks like a pre release prototype from feb 17.
the most recent one is 32-bit. march 3rd which i assume is a production device.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2016185
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that looks like a pre release prototype from feb 17.
the most recent one is 32-bit. march 3rd which i assume is a production device.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2016185
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nope its fully 64 bit.
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nope its fully 64 bit.
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have you used one at MWC ? how do you know this ?
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have you used one at MWC ? how do you know this ?
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check 4th pic i think its enough.
"However, these are pre-release units we're handling here"
Keep digging maybe you will find a 32 bit s6.... they advertised it as 64 bit so its an 64 bit phone with os and hardware.
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Keep digging maybe you will find a 32 bit s6.... they advertised it as 64 bit so its an 64 bit phone with os and hardware.
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Thank u!! I'm tryin to tell these guys. BTW, does anyone know if there are any other places that have the S6 for testing other than MCW?? I'm gonna be taking vacation probably to California and Nevada next week so I though I could you know, see this guy from upclose!
Hi guys ,
How about editing the build prop . does this enable 64 bit mode ?
http://axloneso.blogspot.in/2015/07/active-chip-64bit-exynos-5433-on-note-4.html
badduke said:
Hi guys ,
How about editing the build prop . does this enable 64 bit mode ?
http://axloneso.blogspot.in/2015/07/active-chip-64bit-exynos-5433-on-note-4.html
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you can try and tell us how did it go?
Has anyone ordered an honor 5X? :highfive:
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Has anyone ordered an honor 5X? :highfive:
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Just saw it on Amazon. I'm thinking I might!
Yup ordered a 16GB gold model from newegg. Hope it doesn't suck
The only thing that might suck could be development. But maybe the aggressive price point will rope more devs in.
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The only thing that might suck could be development. But maybe the aggressive price point will rope more devs in.
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I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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This is all very good to know! Thanks for this response
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I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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Great news to hear thanks
wimbet said:
I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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Great!
wimbet said:
I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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That's exactly what I'm excited for! Can't wait to pre-order mine later this month :good:
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The only thing that might suck could be development. But maybe the aggressive price point will rope more devs in.
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Already one dev waiting to be told he can. And he already has the device.
I ordered one for me and one for my wife. i think she will like it if the camera is decent. I really hope that development takes off for this device though.
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I ordered one for me and one for my wife. i think she will like it if the camera is decent. I really hope that development takes off for this device though.
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Check out @bsxtn's Tweet: https://twitter.com/bsxtn/status/687749228462907392?s=09
wimbet said:
I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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Just ordered mine, hopefully there's a ton of interest in this device because of the price point and being "sponsored" by XDA.
Did everyone get that piece of mail from XDA?
Just wondering since I can't find any info. Does this come with gorilla glass or any other sort of scratch resistant glass?
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I work for Huawei USA, and I have done everything I can to support custom development on Huawei handsets. We send out devices to community maintainers, and Huawei provides the kernel source and bootloader unlock codes. Ultimately, it comes down to the popularity of the device. Based on all the positive coverage from CES, I think the honor 5X is going to do well. Honor can also get users attention by continuing to deliver regular software updates, and keep improving the user experience.
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thank you.
I am really interested in this device. I really wish there is a lot of development on this, I would love to see this rooted and Cyanogen / vanilla android on it
and I also hope this device does not sell our on amazon / new egg
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also what does 'sponsored by XDA' mean ?
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Just wondering since I can't find any info. Does this come with gorilla glass or any other sort of scratch resistant glass?
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I Think there will be enough available for $150ish on swapa, as long as they dont sell out on amazon and newegg
now if they DO SELL OUT, then there is going to be a premium, given how much buzz they have created !
It sucks being in Canada as I really wanna pick one of these up.
Check it out, and please like and subscribe
https://youtu.be/Gt5_tTgijV0
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Just got a notification from amazon that it will be here by February 2nd
Releasing in India on 28 January as of now, Excited about the phone, Pre-order not yet started.
Hoping the user interface should be good otherwise have to definitely switch to custom rom.
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I have Checked its reviews. and I am impressed.
RichBz
eruji said:
Just got a notification from amazon that it will be here by February 2nd
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Just got mine too..Be here feb 3rd!!
RichBz said:
Just got mine too..Be here feb 3rd!!
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Got mine notification too for devlvery on 2nd Feb..
Flood the comments section with OnePlus X, let's hope that it catches the eye of one of the developers! xD
http://www.xda-developers.com/which-device-do-you-want-an-android-7-0-nougat-custom-rom-on/
Isn't it too early for this thread?, The community build of marshmallow has just been released and we still have more to explore. Anyway i hope some developer may start working soon and we can taste the flavor of Nougat. CHEERS. ?
The important fact is that the OPX might never get official Nougat releases due to Qualcomm ceasing support for their 800/801 SoC (they won't be getting OpenGL ES 3.1, which is needed for official Android 7.0 releases).
This is going to impact on over 50 android smartphones.
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-hardware/mobile-gaming-graphics-adreno/27936
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The important fact is that the OPX might never get official Nougat releases due to Qualcomm ceasing support for their 800/801 SoC (they won't be getting OpenGL ES 3.1, which is needed for official Android 7.0 releases).
This is going to impact on over 50 android smartphones.
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-hardware/mobile-gaming-graphics-adreno/27936
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damn. Well, is there any way around this?
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Isn't it too early for this thread?, The community build of marshmallow has just been released and we still have more to explore. Anyway i hope some developer may start working soon and we can taste the flavor of Nougat. CHEERS. ?
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Well, no it's not early. We have been using Marshmallow on OnePlus X thanks to our beloved developers since a long time now. We've given up hope on OnePlus, it's all on our developers now
I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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Original post for that image?
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Not a post, my friend sent it.
yup..z3 already got N dev preview..anyway it doesnt matter if opx dont get official N if we can get CM nougat from our dev ?
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Well, no it's not early. We have been using Marshmallow on OnePlus X thanks to our beloved developers since a long time now. We've given up hope on OnePlus, it's all on our developers now
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The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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yup..z3 already got N dev preview..anyway it doesnt matter if opx dont get official N if we can get CM nougat from our dev
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The only reason Z3 got developer preview is because sony n google want to test Android 7.0 on SD 800/801 powered devices
I guess their attempt ended up as a failure and so Z3 has been excluded from Sony update tree for Android 7.0
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The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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It's not as if OnePlus is stopping support. They can't do anything since Qualcomm isn't going to update graphics drivers for SD800/801, which is necessary for Vulkan APIs, which in turn is necessary to pass Google CTS. No Google CTS = no more official update for those chipsets. So it's actually a consequence of Qualcomm's action.
The only way we'll get Nougat is in the form of custom ROMs by the hard work of devs. But again, just to be clear, none of the Nougat custom ROMs will have the Vulkan APIs, since it just isn't possible for 800/801 (afaik). That said, personally I don't really care about official updates since I've been running custom ROMs from the beginning, and I'm sure the good devs will bring us some Nougat love too
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The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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the developers do earn money. By hosting, ads, donation, etc. :3 but yeah, OP has disappointed us
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It's not as if OnePlus is stopping support. They can't do anything since Qualcomm isn't going to update graphics drivers for SD800/801, which is necessary for Vulkan APIs, which in turn is necessary to pass Google CTS. No Google CTS = no more official update for those chipsets. So it's actually a consequence of Qualcomm's action.
The only way we'll get Nougat is in the form of custom ROMs by the hard work of devs. But again, just to be clear, none of the Nougat custom ROMs will have the Vulkan APIs, since it just isn't possible for 800/801 (afaik). That said, personally I don't really care about official updates since I've been running custom ROMs from the beginning, and I'm sure the good devs will bring us some Nougat love too
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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
If the developers can make a S 800/801 working with Android N (see Nexus 5), why can't do it the OEMs?
I personally care about official updates because they can't sold us fully bugged phones and let us search for the solution.
The custom roms are a hobby, something that we like doing, but most of people even know of the existance of XDA.
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the developers do earn money. By hosting, ads, donation, etc. :3 but yeah, OP has disappointed us
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Yeah but most of them can't live with that momey. They just cover some outgoings.
Yeah I first time oneplus buyer but disappointed
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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
If the developers can make a S 800/801 working with Android N (see Nexus 5), why can't do it the OEMs?
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Sure, devs can get Nougat working on 800/801 but again, they will NOT support Vulkan APIs, as I said before. Any custom ROM for 800/801 devices won't support Vulkan API, to my knowledge. And that is essential for to pass CTS, and hence for official updates.
As for OEMs, I won't claim to know if they can force Qualcomm or not. Maybe they can, and maybe they even should. That would be great for everyone definitely. But regardless, I don't think the blame (if there's any) is to be pinned on OnePlus. It's Qualcomm's refusal to update graphics drivers which will force OEMs to drop support.
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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
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Not true. Many say that Adreno 3xx (the GPU on SD800/801) simply does not have hardware support for OpenGL ES 3.1. The only possible alternative is software emulation of such hardware features (which is supposedly a very difficult goal and might expose users to buggy UX and/or to bad battery life). The original problem is OpenGL ES 3.1 (mobile library) came out in 2014, but its features are from OpenGL 4.3 and 4.4 (desktop libraries from 2012 and 2013) So its Qualcomm's fault for either not bothering with updating the 800/801 firmware or for not designing their GPUs to support the current OpenGL version at the time. In fact, ARM's 2012 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.1 and AEP (both from 2014) and their 2013 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.2 and Vulkan (from 2015 and 2016).
This ^^^
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I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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I looked at a Nexus 5 ROM thread today. Lots of stuff was broken. Unless QC puts out official sources, Nougat is going to be a buggy affair for anything with an 800/1 SoC.
More news related to this :
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-7-0-snapdragon-800-801-712930/
I don't get the whole thing, but looks like its possible the problem might not be related to Vulkan. I guess we need to wait for the Android Compatibility Definition Document for Nougat to really know what the actual issue could be.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-7-0-snapdragon-800-801-712930/
apparently, it isn't the VULKAN causing the problems. There are alternative ways around this. They just want us to buy newer devices
Is there any chance to get any official support from CM rom for Galaxy S7 edge exynos version.
Please really need to know.
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Don't think so...
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No chance. Closed source SOC. Small possibility of an unofficial one being released that will boot and be usable but you have two hopes of it ever being stable.
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Just to ask, why would you buy a Samsung phone based on an Exynos chip set if CM is important to you? Possibly the worst phone SOC you can buy under those circumstances.
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No chance. Closed source SOC. Small possibility of an unofficial one being released that will boot and be usable but you have two hopes of it ever being stable.
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Just to ask, why would you buy a Samsung phone based on an Exynos chip set if CM is important to you? Possibly the worst phone SOC you can buy under those circumstances.
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I strongly agree with your point but since the s7 edge has been sold in the 30 million mark i thought too myself there has to be a cm for this phone since its so freakin awesome! I traded my nexus 4 to the nexus 5 than moved to 1+1 then for the almighty nexus 6 (yes im a flashaholic) but eventually for some stupid reason i sold it and bought the s7 edge because of the better screen camera and popularity and now im thinking of selling because it has no aosp or cm roms..... i mean seriously this phone is a beast of a beast but slowly slowly im starting to realize maybe having so much custom roms is a better choice.... Thats my opinion tbh
Unfortunately only Exynos 4 family have true open libraries, also 5 series has some libraries but i've never heard about 7 and 8 series have any libraries, and without Samsung sources, it's somethink like impossible. Read further here:
http://www.xda-developers.com/the-r...ng-how-and-why-tinkerers-used-samsung-phones/
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
Samsung or most oem's don't give a **** about open-source that why you get skins on phones and not stock they want you running their services etc if you care for development I suggest getting a Nexus/Pixel only
Thanks every one :'(
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But why samsung don't realease the source of exynos???
It's a problem for samsung?
I remember when i bought the Galaxy S3..OMG so many roms?
But now...When samsung want to abandon the S7..we don't have rom custom for solve the problem
We want it but seems impossible...
May be samsung wants their consumer to be stock or something. what ever it is, so disappointed :'-(
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Maybe we should make a HUGE petition to samsung to release more source code? 99.9% it won't work but well..
It's being worked on for the snapdragon variant of the S7E. Dont think anything is being done for the Enyxos version.
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It's being worked on for the snapdragon variant of the S7E. Dont think anything is being done for the Enyxos version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697
Wanted to see how CM would hold up on a Dual Boot now its possible on the S7
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Is there any chance to get any official support from CM rom for Galaxy S7 edge exynos version.
Please really need to know.
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Nope.
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Even if a usable CM build did appear, the use of it would take away a lot of the features that make this a premium phone in the first place. For a start I can guarantee you the camera quality will be dire in comparison. And on a phone with a camera this good, that would be ridiculous. Its one of the main reasons I bought it. Then you will lose the Edge features.
Nah, I'll stick with Touchwiz thanks. Besides, it's far better than it used to be, it's no longer a chore.
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Even if a usable CM build did appear, the use of it would take away a lot of the features that make this a premium phone in the first place. For a start I can guarantee you the camera quality will be dire in comparison. And on a phone with a camera this good, that would be ridiculous. Its one of the main reasons I bought it. Then you will lose the Edge features.
Nah, I'll stick with Touchwiz thanks. Besides, it's far better than it used to be, it's no longer a chore.
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You use the edge features!!?? I didn't know somebody used that, why will the camera quality will be compromised? is it the hardware? or you wanna say it's the software of S7E who deliver beautiful pictures. I believe a beautyful cool UI is a perfect match for this awesome device.[emoji56]
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697
Wanted to see how CM would hold up on a Dual Boot now its possible on the S7
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Shame about the closed source for the samsung SOC. I think this is where the qualcomm soc variant lucked out a bit.
There is some work being done at the moment to get it to boot correctly on the qualcomm side, but everything else is pretty much there. Once that problem is solved, its pretty easy since a lot of qualcomm based devices can already run cm13/14 so porting it to the s7/s7e qualcomm would be relatively easy of a task.
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Shame about the closed source for the samsung SOC. I think this is where the qualcomm soc variant lucked out a bit.
There is some work being done at the moment to get it to boot correctly on the qualcomm side, but everything else is pretty much there. Once that problem is solved, its pretty easy since a lot of qualcomm based devices can already run cm13/14 so porting it to the s7/s7e qualcomm would be relatively easy of a task.
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But, I have a Exynos device
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You use the edge features!!?? I didn't know somebody used that, why will the camera quality will be compromised? is it the hardware? or you wanna say it's the software of S7E who deliver beautiful pictures. I believe a beautyful cool UI is a perfect match for this awesome device.[emoji56]
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Yes, I do. And the camera is compromised because Samsung's TW framework is required for it to work optimally. You will get basic image quality and features under CM but it won't be anything like approaching what you get under TW and the stock camera app. This was the case under older phones like the Note 3 (I used Temasek's CM builds on that) and it will be even more prevelant on superior camera hardware like this. The gains CM/AOSP offer simply don't outweigh the disadvantages for me.
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Shame about the closed source for the samsung SOC. I think this is where the qualcomm soc variant lucked out a bit.
There is some work being done at the moment to get it to boot correctly on the qualcomm side, but everything else is pretty much there. Once that problem is solved, its pretty easy since a lot of qualcomm based devices can already run cm13/14 so porting it to the s7/s7e qualcomm would be relatively easy of a task.
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It is, i have been waiting for Dual Patcher to bring S7 Edge support.
I was going to consider having a play with CM build as an additional ROM.
I enjoyed it on my Note 3 switching between the two, So i may have a dip in the source thats already been worked on next early next year