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This has been posted before, but it's been a while and this issue is really frustrating me, and it wasn't resolved, so I figure I'll bring it back up.
When I use a launcher with an app drawer transition (LauncherPro, ADW, ANYTHING) I get a HUGE slowdown in framerate when using live wallpapers and pressing the app drawer button. Is this something to do with the live wallpapers not being optimized for Tegra II? Moto is not helpful because they just blame it on the launcher (MotoBlur doesn't have an app drawer transition animation, so there is no noticable lag). I have asked them and they say to report it to the app developer (LauncherPro etc). LauncherPro doesn't respond.
I think it is absolutely rediculous that I can't even use live wallpapers on this "powerful" phone without a huge frame rate reduction. Someone PLEASE help.
Thanks
Have you tried un/checking the "high quality scrolling" option in LP advanced settings?
I fixed that problem with mine by switching to a NS4G lol. Single core and twice as fast, go figure.
The Atrix is a great phone overall, and I miss it sometimes but wouldn't trade back for a minute. Hopefully GB will help with it as it's supposed to support dual core better. I used to complain about the same thing.
WiredPirate said:
Have you tried un/checking the "high quality scrolling" option in LP advanced settings?
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Doesn't do anything. Still laggy.
I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
viniturb0 said:
I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I notice the lag as well. Opening and closing apps that normally just pop.
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
vinokirk said:
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
andyiacovou said:
I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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What widgets are you using?
I have about 15 icons, weather widget and digital clock wiget on one screen and nothing on any of the other screens.
Hmmm that might be the problem. I'm using widgets on every screen. I've gone a bit widget bonkers! Having said that I had the same widgets on the Galaxy S2 and didn't suffer lag issues.
I have rooted and am waiting for some decent ROMS to appear, I'm sure that will fix???
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Hi friends.
I also notice lag and Im using the stock launcher and with almost no widgets.
Apart from the screen issues that one will notice if he uses the devise for reading.
I had the SGS2 before and the difference is noticable.
Such a pitty for such a promising devise.
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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It's the same on my Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's never changed so I wouldn't worry about it.
There were some threads on the SGS2 forum about ideas on how to fix it if I remember rightly.
I love my note but i would have to agree that SG2 is faster compare to note . ( that make ppl feel like the note is laggy as they have used SG2 before )
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thank God the device is super fast....there is no lag at all.....just hard-reset the device and enjoy it
Launcher Pro is much smoother on my Note than ADW...
ADW EX is lightning fast with density hack at 240, all the others lagged.
Obviously mine is rooted. Also using Roboto font.
I have lag
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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Yeah I agree, I don't understand the lag with such a powerful device. I suppose it is possible that Samsung has used cheaper, slower dram in this phone. Even the Plus animation when the phone boots micro-stutters. Of well, hopefully in a month we can get our hands on the Nexus.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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That's the nature of Android, because so many manufacturers can use it, developers need to program apps for all of them in mind and seeing they all have the potential to utilise different hardware you can't expect a developer to be able to foresee these things.
What we need to do is just put a request to the developers and ask if they can make it compatible with the Notes graphics card/drivers making it lag free.
This is exactly why virtually all native Samsung apps run fantastic, because their devs know the hardware and drivers hence know how to get full potential.
What would fix this is every time Google releases a version like ICS they should state exactly which hardware will be ALLOWED to run on this platform. But then you lose the openness.
It's a double edged sword, you have to take the good with the bad..
This is unfortunately where apple shines with the iphone because they make the OS and the device. If they just loosened up on their OS a little then we wouldn't be talking here
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The Note will ONLY get better with each update/support from either Samsung or our beloved developers.. And that's a one way direction.. O)nly better..
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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qazzi76 said:
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Agreed in some respects...
Have you installed AnTuTu CPU master?
I have noticed that when the CPU is operating at 800mhz everything lags.
When I force the CPU to 1400mhz using AnTuTu the lag is present for the first homescreen swipe in ADW EX (DPI 260) then it's smooth as butter.
I have also observed this behaviour in launcher pro.
A guy on here recommended using BetterBatteryStats to possibly locate the apps/background services that are unnecessary hogging the CPU.
Fully agreed on the Iphone performance - but that is clearly due to software strictly tailored for hardware.
Android requires brute force due to software required to work on multiple devices
Gotta say tho my Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen) with overcome is way faster in general operation than the Note... Until I force the processor to stay at 1400mhz - then it just flies.
Clearly the Note has a lot of potential.
I've used LauncherPro for about two years, on different devices, and it was always my go-to launcher, because it was fast, functional, and looked great. But ever since I bought my GNote it's been one of the worst launchers. It stuttered even when doing simple homescreen swipes.
After trying out most LauncherPro settings I tried...
Rooting and overclocking - zilch
Switching ROMs (Rocket -> Cassies) - Nada
Overclocking those - nope
Installed the latest kernels (Abyss 3.3&3.4 -> FM 1.5 & 2.0 -> Speedmod) - no chance
That's when I returned to LauncherPro settings and changed the one thing that used to make LauncherPro the smoothest on my last two phones.
Preferences -> Advanced -> Memory Usage Settings -> Homescreen Cache Type -> Compressed or Light
I've tried all three settings on my old phones and LauncherPro functioned best with "normal" but the GNote is just different I guess. I hope this helps.
P.S. make sure to keep: General Settings -> "Keep in memory" checked
I had problems with a lot of 3rd party launchers, but after i adjusted the DPI to 240 (stock 800x480 DPI) i do not have this problem anymore.
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My experience with these launchers are;
Launcher Pro - Smooth with Home screen scrolling but lags / stutters on app drawer scrolling.
Go Launcher - Lags/ stutters on Home screen scrolling but smooth on app scrolling. Disabling High Quality Drawing minimizes the lag on Home Home Screen scrolling.
Twouchwiz - lag-free but lacks the features and flexibility of Launcherpro and Go Launcher.
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LordManhattan said:
I had problems with a lot of 3rd party launchers, but after i adjusted the DPI to 240 (stock 800x480 DPI) i do not have this problem anymore.
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But doesn't that lower the quality of the displayed images?
pinoypower said:
My experience with these launchers are;
Launcher Pro - Smooth with Home screen scrolling but lags / stutters on app drawer scrolling.
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My experience is the exact opposite of this. I guess that goes to show just how different each phone can be.
Do you guys think the lag will be gone once we get ICS? Or does the launcher app have to be coded to use hardware acceleration?
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Do you guys think the lag will be gone once we get ICS? Or does the launcher app have to be coded to use hardware acceleration?
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It should be gone with ICS seeing how well nexus runs on ICS
Also don't expect much out of Launcher Pro. It hasn't been updated in forever.
If you have 2D acceleration checked on CM9 ICS ...there is no lag whatsoever. Tested ADW.
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If you have 2D acceleration checked on CM9 ICS ...there is no lag whatsoever. Tested ADW.
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That sounds promising, so maybe in the end ICS will solve all of our lagginess issues. BTW slightly off topic, but has there been any progress on getting the camera app to work? That is the one major thing I cannot live without for a daily driver ROM.
have you guys tried disabling "elastic scrolling" on launcherpro? I did mine, what a huge improvement on smoothness! It's comparable now to touchwiz
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k1ng617 said:
I've used LauncherPro for about two years, on different devices, and it was always my go-to launcher, because it was fast, functional, and looked great. But ever since I bought my GNote it's been one of the worst launchers. It stuttered even when doing simple homescreen swipes.
After trying out most LauncherPro settings I tried...
Rooting and overclocking - zilch
Switching ROMs (Rocket -> Cassies) - Nada
Overclocking those - nope
Installed the latest kernels (Abyss 3.3&3.4 -> FM 1.5 & 2.0 -> Speedmod) - no chance
That's when I returned to LauncherPro settings and changed the one thing that used to make LauncherPro the smoothest on my last two phones.
Preferences -> Advanced -> Memory Usage Settings -> Homescreen Cache Type -> Compressed or Light
I've tried all three settings on my old phones and LauncherPro functioned best with "normal" but the GNote is just different I guess. I hope this helps.
P.S. make sure to keep: General Settings -> "Keep in memory" checked
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I followed the above steps on my launcher pro and there is a very noticable improvement. Thank you!!
spfraggle said:
I followed the above steps on my launcher pro and there is a very noticable improvement. Thank you!!
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Your welcome! I'm glad I could give back, no matter how small, to this great community.
Strange, I never really had an issue with homescreen swiping with LP, but only with the app drawer opening/closing effect.
This change didn't do anything for that, unfortunately.
And I don't understand why some of you say Touchwiz is smooth. I found it so laggy when I got it! (KK1 kernel) So first thing I did was to get rid of it, and found LP so much smoother (except for app drawer opening).
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Go Launcher - Lags/ stutters on Home screen scrolling but smooth on app scrolling. Disabling High Quality Drawing minimizes the lag on Home Home Screen scrolling.
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Absolutely correct! After jamming with the settings I was nearly going crazy about the laggy scrolling of my home screen... disabling the high quality drawing solves the problem.
To be honest: I can't see any appreciable advantage after activating this kind of "powerguzzler"... just skip it, folks!
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BrainSex said:
Absolutely correct! After jamming with the settings I was nearly going crazy about the laggy scrolling of my home screen... disabling the high quality drawing solves the problem.
To be honest: I can't see any appreciable advantage after activating this kind of "powerguzzler"... just skip it, folks!
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Agreed. I can't see any discernible difference with "high quality" on either.
Go to Settings-> developer options->select Window animation scale and Transition Animation scale and change both to .5 instead of 1. Reboot and the phone is much snappier, at least it is for me.
You can also choose to disable both animations, to make it even faster.
This should make it feel snappier but I don't think it actually makes the phone faster. Sure the time it takes from one window to the next now is faster but this won't increase your benchmark results or anything like that. Regardless it does make it feel quicker; but once again it's an effect.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
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This should make it feel snappier but I don't think it actually makes the phone faster. Sure the time it takes from one window to the next now is faster but this won't increase your benchmark results or anything like that. Regardless it does make it feel quicker; but once again it's an effect.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
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True, but app windows open quicker and the phone is more responsive
I read this on the SGS3 thread, and did it to my note, not a lot of difference.
John.
I actually did the opposite and changed the window animation scale to 2x. This makes everything feel much more fluent and strangely enough less laggy (for me). More of a polished experience
Is just a Feel..
Put the one you like more
Thanks makes a big difference actually
The default 1x is already nice to me, snap n smooth.
this is a better tip disable all of samsung's bloatware running in the background
Also depends on the rom. I always change to 0.5
The smoothest rom so far for scrolling and in apps browsing seems to be rocket 7.
None of the asop based roms seem to achieve this and this is
surprising.
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I think go away from Samsung roms and into CM9 its smooth as butter. Running Apex launcher with live wallpapers have no effect on performance and everything opens as fast as possible.
Paranoid android is great with per app density settings so you can actually use the phone/tablet hybrid in that way, the stock samsung Rom's are like a big s2 for blind people, I can do with much smaller text and fit much more per screen then the over-sized touchwiz.
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this is a better tip disable all of samsung's bloatware running in the background
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What should I disable I m on stock Ics and I dnt understand y every time I clear off Ram it says 22 apps closed.
Thanks.
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So one of my observations about 3rd party launchers on this phone is homescreen scrolling has a slight stutter at times even when the fastest speed setting is in place. So tonight I realized I hadn't checked out the LWP's and decided to do so....I set one as my wallpaper and holy ****, my homescreens scrolled fast and smooth, no stutter at all. I put back a regular WP and sure as ****, the stutter was back. For all of these tests, power saving was on. In comparison, TW is fast and smooth with no stutter no matter what.
Any idea as to why it would be faster and smoother with a LWP vs. a regular one?
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So one of my observations about 3rd party launchers on this phone is homescreen scrolling has a slight stutter at times even when the fastest speed setting is in place. So tonight I realized I hadn't checked out the LWP's and decided to do so....I set one as my wallpaper and holy ****, my homescreens scrolled fast and smooth, no stutter at all. I put back a regular WP and sure as ****, the stutter was back. For all of these tests, power saving was on. In comparison, TW is fast and smooth with no stutter no matter what.
Any idea as to why it would be faster and smoother with a LWP vs. a regular one?
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You are right sir, I was wondering what changed, I was running lwps then switched to static but didn't link the stuttering to that. You're a goddamn genius.
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Perhaps gpu rendering is turning on when a live wallpaper is being used. Maybe try forcing gpu rendering in the developer options.
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Perhaps gpu rendering is turning on when a live wallpaper is being used. Maybe try forcing gpu rendering in the developer options.
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Tried that first, may have improved very very slightly.
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umm, lap effect the fluidity on ALL android phones to SOME degree
It's likely kicking the phone out of power saving mode, upping the clocks (cpu, gpu, or both) So while you should see increased smoothness, you will see decreased battery life as well.
nevermind.......
What I noticed on apex launcher, to get smooth transitions on static wallpaper. Go to apex settings / homescreen settings / wallpaper mode ( single none scrolling)
Transitions became smooth for me, and or alternatively set live wallpaper.
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It's likely kicking the phone out of power saving mode, upping the clocks (cpu, gpu, or both) So while you should see increased smoothness, you will see decreased battery life as well.
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PS still shows enabled though....tomorrow i'm gonna run a static WP but this time turn PS off and see how that works out as far as battery life is concerned.
The power saving option is doing something weird on the GPU.
My device is rooted so I can limit my CPU clock speed with Voltage Control and when I put it to 1026 Mhz (wich is the same as the PS option) I don't have any lag on my Nova Prime home screen.
However when I put back to defeault my CPU setting and turn PS on I get the same kind of stutter/lag as you on Nova and I see 1026MHz as my top CPU clock in Voltage Control.
Conclusion : PS option is most likely limiting the clock speed of the GPU for downloaded apps but a LWP might be able to use it anyway as this feature is built in android as is TW on our SGS III.
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What I noticed on apex launcher, to get smooth transitions on static wallpaper. Go to apex settings / homescreen settings / wallpaper mode ( single none scrolling)
Transitions became smooth for me, and or alternatively set live wallpaper.
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This solved my problem. Thanks!
I use go launcher with sense theme with go widget sense theme and it too is super smooth better than tw
You can see in the first 5 seconds of my video below
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I use go launcher with sense theme with go widget sense theme and it too is super smooth better than tw
You can see in the first 5 seconds of my video below
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So you can't see that lag from the time you swipe to the time it actually responds? That would drive me crazy!