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any suggestions on securely keeping the minisd card in place. i am on my 3rd card in 4 weeks and its getting kind of annoying at this point. the first time i lost the card was when i dropped the mda and didnt realize the card was missing until the following morning. i lost the 2nd card mysteriously during the night. any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
Keep the MDA in its case? I haven't lost my MiniSD card and i've had my phone for about 4 weeks, but i keep it in the holster 80% of the time and almost always when i'm not home or it isn't in my hand directly...
How are you using your phone? How are you storing it? Etc.?
it usually in my holster, i just get clumsy at times...pretty sure that i lose the cards when i just drop my phone and forget to check if the card is still in... i was thinking of putting a layer of tape over it...
maybe i should just be more careful
nikegeo said:
maybe i should just be more careful
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....maybe? Tape also sounds like a good idea.
Tape may be tacky, but it sure beats purchasing a new card!!
I lost the fake mini sd card that came with my wizard, but have yet to loose my 1 gig card. I think I would cry...
I have my phone now since June or so and still haven't lost my card - I'd be devastated it it happened, I just realised I need to do a backup of that card !!!
Clear Tape sounds good to me.
double post, sorry.
Perhaps your locking mechanism for the minisd card is (semi)broken? You mentioned it had fallen the first time...?
I still have to push the card in pretty hard with my fingernail to get it to pop out, so for your cards to fall out so easily makes you think the minisd card(s) might not lock in correctly?
I have to say I've never had an issue with my card falling out of the slot. It locks in pretty firmly. I suspect a defective slot. Or perhaps you're not pushing it in quite far enough to enable to lock?
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any suggestions on securely keeping the minisd card in place. i am on my 3rd card in 4 weeks and its getting kind of annoying at this point. the first time i lost the card was when i dropped the mda and didnt realize the card was missing until the following morning. i lost the 2nd card mysteriously during the night. any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
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Dude after I read this my SD some how came out at a friends house and I didnt know until I tried to run some of my apps of my card. Some skater tape works well and it looks much cooler if you run it all around and cut out the spots for the various items.
Install NotifyMe.. it alerts when your MiniSD pops -out or deliberately removed from the phone.
Just execute the EXE anywhere on the phone and it automatically puts a shortcut on Start - Settings - Personal and configure from there..
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Dude after I read this my SD some how came out at a friends house and I didnt know until I tried to run some of my apps of my card. Some skater tape works well and it looks much cooler if you run it all around and cut out the spots for the various items.
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That's really an... interesting thought. Anyone have any luck with duct tape?
Mesh said:
Perhaps your locking mechanism for the minisd card is (semi)broken? You mentioned it had fallen the first time...?
I still have to push the card in pretty hard with my fingernail to get it to pop out, so for your cards to fall out so easily makes you think the minisd card(s) might not lock in correctly?
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It's also got something to do with the card itself. I have a 2 GB Apacer card which has never popped out, and even after I eject it I have to pull it out by hand, it won't drop out if I shake the phone or turn it upside down.
But I also have an older 512 or 1MB card (don't remember the brand name and can't find it any more). If I just push it in to eject it, it almost flies out of the slot. If I eject it and then hold the phone upside down it just drops out.
So I guess my tip is: If you've lost one, dont buy the same brand/size again without trying it in your phone
thanks for that app and advice guys
da_mayhem - thanks for that program - just tested it out and now at least when im drunk and lose the card ill know to look for it - going into my essential apps folder - thanks again
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da_mayhem - thanks for that program - just tested it out and now at least when im drunk and lose the card ill know to look for it - going into my essential apps folder - thanks again
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No problem mate..now i'm thinking about how to make my mini sd glow in the dark lol
this may not be wat ur asking, but i always forget my mini sd in my mem card reader >.<
I had recently bought a cingular 8525..... and i bought a scandisk 2gb micro SD card..... but when i try to push the card in it gets stuck and the card doesnt comes out..... i have to remove the battery and pull the card with the clipper...... but the dummy card goes in and comes out perfectly..... wht shall i do.... i have tried this with 2-3 brands micro SD cards
Same here. Althugh with a little fiddeling my Hermes recognised the Card. And as I haven't planned to remove it again any time soon I can live with that.
You have to be carefull when putting the card in. I had the same problem at the start, you have to put it in really straight and make sure you here a click. If you here a scrape, then it get corrupt.
Didn't want to make new thread, so I bumped...
I am having same problem. I tried to put the card in (2 gb sandisk micro SD) and now its stuck and not seen by the Phone. How did the first poster get his out? I looked under the battery, but I don't see an easy way to get to the card. Any help is much appreciated, since I cannot use my card yet...TIA!
ive experienced the same problem. seems like its a "breaking in" issue.
as you get used to putting it in and pulling it out it will ultimately just sink in. meaning, youd be able to click it in and click it out..
never had one problem with the 3 sandisk cards i use..
I did struggle the first time after taking the new Hermes out of the box but no problems since - since the first go I just do it really carefully, making sure it's absolutely straight.
SD cards are a nice, even shape but MicroSD have a funny shape to them - a degree out in insertion angle (oo-er, missus) and it seems you're stumped. Took me ages to get the thing out first time.
Thanks for the help, I was able to get it out with a very small flat screwdriver. It is very sensitive, and I make sure that I get the "click" before I push it all the way in. Thx.
tried taking out my sdhc earlier and seems like i have no problems anymore..
Guys,
Try using forum search. I posted a working solution to this issue here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284672
Dave
Micro SD card issues
I too had the same problem for 2 or 3 times, getting it in is the trick, very delicate.
The first time I inserted it, it didn't register and it wouldn't come out with a click, sort of had to pry it out delicately out of there, the second time, the device recognized it, taking it out it clicked but hesitated a bit, by the third time, no problem. Now it works exactly like it should.
The question is, is it the slot that gets broken-in or the card itself? I have another card on order, I'll know the answer to that soon, allthough I think it's the actual slot inside that assumes the shape it should or something, probably the pins-connectors inside that have to flex a couple of times.
Scary at first but it seems to fix itself.
God I love my phone, is it wrong to be so obsessed with it?
Guys,
Don't flame me... I haven't fully tested my theory, but so far it's working well!
As you know, MANY of us have issues with the card not being recognized sometimes; the device hangs; the camera doesn't capture images, etc.
Well, today I was trying to take some pictures facing downwards (of a leak in my car door), and I would just get a black image almost every single time.
I would then do a test and snap a picture of my garage, and it worked.
Back to the door, it didn't work.
Etc.
I wasn't sure if there wasn't enough lighting or what.
HOWEVER.....
I then realized that everytime the unit was pointing down, THAT is when it didn't work!
I examined where the contacts are on the card (top), and sure enough, it MAY be that by the force of gravity, one or two contacts are losing contact.
So I tested my theory.
I stuck my thumbnail (the REAL one, not a mini image ) under the card, and pressed it up.
EVERY single picture worked PERFECTLY.
No freezing! No black! No issues!
So, I took a small peice of paper, and slid it under the card, like a shim. (It was actually a piece of an envelope, so it's a big thicker.
Gentlemen... Since I put that paper underneath the card, my 8525 has worked flawlessly.
I just took 20 pictures, stored on the SD card, and not one issue!
And this is a 2GB Sandisk, by the way.
I will do more tests, but I am really feeling confident that this may solve some of our problems.
(I hope this is not a "welcome to last week" thread! I have seen LOTS of threads regarding the camera, freezes, and SD issue.. but I never read anything about solving problems with a piece of paper!)
Thoughts???
Hi Michael_514,
While I appreciate your efforts here, the one thing that seems to have solved ALL of my SD Card issues was upgrading to WM6. Nothing to do with gravity nor Elfen registry edits ... just a new OS.
While I think your tack, dealing with gravity and the directional orientation of the device is interesting, I think the heart of the problem exists in the drivers for the SD Cards, which were corrected (or at least ameliorateed) in the newer OS builds.
All the same, I am interested in your final results, so please continue this post.
All the best,
-pvs
Don't forget guys, maybe you are both right! We should not assume that everyone has the same problem - though the symptoms may be the same. Actually, when reading the many posts on this issue, I AM convinced there is in some cases a poor contacts issue that will afect the camera and other software/files on the SD card. I am also convinced there is in other cases a driver/software issue that may well be improved with WM6.
Always be cautious, yet open minded about claims from folks to have solved an issue. It may be for some but not all, and a different solution may exist for others.
Mike
Point taken, Mike. Thanks for that!
Just tried it. I will keep you informed tomorrow.
Thanks for the responses, PVS & Mike.
Mike -- Love your 'have an open mind' role! I guess that's why they call you a Moderator!
I would agree with Mike... both answers could be correct.
I am convinced that 90% of our Hermes woes ARE SD Card related.
I feel that because I had these units for 7 straight days, in use almost all day, with not one crash or hang...
..and then on day seven, I did a SD Card copy/paste, to switch cards with my dad's unit, and from that day on, freeze.. freeze.. freeze... Sometimes the unit is great for three days, sometimes, 3 reboots in one hour are required....
...Same thing happened when I reinstalled the firmware....
...that I just 'knew' that the freezes and hangs were DEFINITELY related to my swapping of the cards. Especially since I installed no weird apps.
Dirty contacts; bad connection; bad card controllers; I KNEW that my woes were not 'OS-related', 'sbd Pocket-plus-related', nor firmware related... Especially since I did three reinstalls of the firmware.
PVS - I totally agree with you. Perhaps WM6 has some better error checking, or a better algorythm for handing missing bits over the card bus.
I know a little about how computers and electronics handle this. It's why you can make a scratch in a CD, and it still plays. Check bits / error correcting / over-sampling / etc. etc.
I agree that a more advanced OS, like WM6, can better "handle" missing bits.
..but I am trying to get to the root of the problem.
I just went to the bathroom and took about 30 photos while sitting there . ALL 30 worked! No black photos. No "New SD Card Inserted" message. No freezing. 30 on 30. I am thrilled so far!
After spending three weeks racking my brains out, dealing with the problems, I am starting to truly feel like I may be on the right track.
Let's keep our minds open... Let's remember how many 8525 issues do point to the cards. Let's keep in mind that half the people love their Sandisks, and half the people love their Kingstons.
A new OS may solve people's problems, as could a piece of paper jammed in there to make the contacts tighter.
I spent $720 on two of these units, and let me tell you.. I MISS MY 8125!
I am as eager to solve this as anyone. I use this machine for business. It's not just a hobby for me.
Maybe we are on the right track...!
Let's see what others say...!
I will keep everyone posted.
I do have to laugh at my make-shift solution, though! There is something funny about staring at my unit, with a little piece of envelope visible under the SD card. Talk about a low-tech solution to a high-tech problem!
M
Michael_514, I love your theory. I hope it's that easy a solution for some of us if not all.
It seems from reports that Sandisk cards have this problem more often?
If owners could report their card's thickness using a micrometer, this might help confirm if an electrical contact issue is more likely?
My Corsair 1Gb card is 0.70mm thick, just behind the electrical contacts.
I've had issues with the card not being detected both with WM5 and now WM6. One time was fixed by wiping the contacts clean, but other times ejecting & reinserting the card make no difference. I've ignored the problem and many hours later the card would be visible again.
When I read your post, I straight away folded up some paper and pushed it in above the card, on the same side as the contacts - the memory card was still accessable within the phone, so I'm thinking my issue isn't a physical one.
Next time the card vanishes from explorer, I'll insert some paper to shim it towards the contacts and see if it helps.
Has anyone pulled apart their phone? I'm wondering if perhaps there's some type of pressure applied to the back of the card forcing it to contact electrically? Maybe if this is a mechanical device it is getting stuck?
My old phone's SD card slot broke when I dropped it once and it no longer ejected cards normally, but still worked perfectly.
Cheers! Oggy.
Hi there!
I just wanted to confirm where I put the paper.
I put it UNDER the card, effectively 'pushing the contacts up'.
That is where I stuck my thumbnail when I could not take a successful picture of my car door.
When I said to myself, "Why do all photos of the sky work, but not photos of the ground??", that is when I realized that I wanted to "push it up".
And in terms of the:
This firmware vs. that firmware...
Kingston vs. Sandisk...
WM5 vs. WM6...
Made in Taiwan vs. Japan...
Those are NOT the answers.
Too many people in too many threads have proven that.
I am not saying my method is correct... I will need a week of testing... But I know people DID have problems with WM6. People DID have problems with Kingston. People DID have problems with 512MB.
I started another Kingston vs. Sandisk thread, and reading those responses has shown me that it ain't the answer.
And as Ogier says, "I've had issues with the card not being detected both with WM5 and now WM6."
So, that also isn't the answer.
Let's all keep our fingers crossed, because I HATE rebooting this unit!
But to confirm, I put the paper underneath to 'force up' the contacts....!
@ Michael_514
Just another thought. There is also a difference between photos of the sky and photos pointing down and that is the light level. I know you are testing the idea about the contacts and angle of the phone, but to confirm it's nothing to do with the light level sensor/software you might need to test by taking high light level pics (pointing downward at a lamp say), just to rule out any light level sensor issue. I have noticed that the camera seems to incrementally adjust light level but in general it will be at a different setting pointing up as opposed to down.
As I say just a thought and something to rule out or in.
Mike
I don't know if this is disappointing but I have tested this method during the weekend and it does not work. I have definitely inserted the shim under the card so to push the contacts up. After some time my card is partially lost meaning some programs will not run. This morning I'm in the office and I have replaced the shim to sit just under the contacts and not under the entire card. I will keep you posted although I don't trust it will work.
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hi guys,
ive been looking at these SD card related threads in the past and was thankful that my hermes seemed fine...
UNTIL
the speaker connection popped out and i opened the phone to connect it back up. everything when fine and the speaker is working but the sd card refuses too show up. now ive tried putting paper under and above the SD card and ive also changed my ROM to two different WM6 flavours. im sure all the connectors are plugged in but i really need my SD card to be shown.
Anybody experience something similar or have and idea's on how to get it working again. it only stopped working after i removed the back panel, connected the speaker back up and then closed it.
thank you,
Drooch
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hi guys,
ive been looking at these SD card related threads in the past and was thankful that my hermes seemed fine...
UNTIL
the speaker connection popped out and i opened the phone to connect it back up. everything when fine and the speaker is working but the sd card refuses too show up. now ive tried putting paper under and above the SD card and ive also changed my ROM to two different WM6 flavours. im sure all the connectors are plugged in but i really need my SD card to be shown.
Anybody experience something similar or have and idea's on how to get it working again. it only stopped working after i removed the back panel, connected the speaker back up and then closed it.
thank you,
Drooch
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Not much to suggest other than open up again - double check connections and hard reset if it still does not work.
Mike
ive checked the connections and they seem fine, i really cant put my finger on what has changed from me opening it and then closing it. the only difference is that there is no void sticker anymore! is there anyway to see if it still see's the sd card slot or if the OS diesnt even think its there.
Ive tried HR and ROM changes, so its something hardware wise.
Drooch
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ive checked the connections and they seem fine, i really cant put my finger on what has changed from me opening it and then closing it. the only difference is that there is no void sticker anymore! is there anyway to see if it still see's the sd card slot or if the OS diesnt even think its there.
Ive tried HR and ROM changes, so its something hardware wise.
Drooch
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Maybe you said, but does the card work ok on a PC card reader? Just wondering if the card formatting is corrupted?
Mike
Again, after rechecking this method, putting two pieces of paper just under the contacts area of the card I still get the "once every 6 hours" normal card failure. I just remove the card, wait 5 seconds and insert it again. That's it for me.
Hi All!
Two interesting discoveries..!
First of all, so far, so good.
I did not have to reboot my once since Friday. Today is Monday, and not one single freeze. Normally, I like to reboot every few days just to 'clean it up', but I am going to leave it until it freezes.
Friday evening, Saturday, Sunday, this morning...
Not one system hang.
However, I did take a few pictures that came out black. That's the bad news.
I have not looked at other threads yet, but as Mike alluded to, above, there IS something wrong with the light sensor.
Remember how I said I had problems photographing my leaky car door, but then other pics were fine?
Well, yesterday my father said to me that he took a few pictures of items in his showroom, and some items would NOT be able to be photographed!!! He said that he has some gift items with SPARKLES, and he could successfully capture photos of items without sparkles, but when she shot the sparkly items, he saw black.
Then I thought about the pictures I was taking, the pictures WERE of dripping water from my car door.
I think that a unit that hangs, or an SD card that's not recognized, MAY be a totally separate issue than black pictures.
But that still doesn't explain how I was able to take all sorts of photos when my thumbnail pressed on the SD card.
In any case, like I said, I have been extremely successful with 'no black' pictures this weekend, and have not rebooted my device since Friday. This is a miracle for me.
I just removed and inserted a clean shim.
If I could get another three days without a reboot, I will be jumping for joy!
My unit just hung!
I had disconnected the unit from the Activesync USB cable.
Went upstairs.
Came back to find the unit on (Backlight on) and the unit was very hot, with the battery being sucked down 1/2.
I had set an Alarm for 1:00pm, and it's now 2:10pm. It started playing a second or two of the Alarm sound just now. And that was it. Very hot to the touch.
But I am happy that this is my first re-boot since Friday.
These hangs/black photos/hot battery drains may all be different issues, but I am still definitely leaving my shim inside the card. No reboot since Friday is a big improvement for this unit!
Good day
I recently upgraded my TyTn from WM5 to WM6. Since upgrade 1GB and 2GB Apacer micro SD's that worked fine are not recognised by the phone.
Am I missing any setting in WM6? Can someone please help as I need to access info on the cards ASAP.
Thank you
Just got my new PQ1 2G card and replaced my old 2G Sandisk. My first impression is speed - much better with the PQ1. Also the general feeling is that it fails less or not at all. I have to work with it for the next 72 hours to give you my statistics comparing it to the Sandisk.
I'll keep you posted.
NO. This feels the same as my old Sandisk 2G memory. Every 4-5 hours my SD card stops responding. Mind you in the PQ1 case I can still see the card with my Explorer and even see the directory structure and the files. They just can't run. The messege I get is the progrmam is not found.
Ok first off im a total noob when nit comes to Windows mobile. Ive been using a Palm treo for 2 years and was given an att 8525 for free i just have to see if i can fix it. i have searched for my issues in other threads and found some but not all of the issues, so here goes
~Screen fades to white and if squeezed on the left side will come back but then fades out again and it seems to be worse when slid open. (i believe this is the flex cable issue that ive read about)
~Radio drops out one min i have full bars and the next nothing. i havent found any patterns to it.
~When send sms it will send a few but then i will get a few that come back saying phone not ready.
~Power button has a almost exact 23 second delay from the time you push it to the screen comming on ( i noticed that after i did a fresh install of wm6 it went away for a little while and then came right back)
~Wifi wont connect to secure network (i enter the PW and it will connect then as soon as i igo to a website it says cannot connect and then asks me for the PW again)
~SD card inserted and phone doesnt show any signs of recognizing it including when you go to setting/system/memory it says card not installed, doesnt even light up when you insert the card
Thank you in advance for any help even iif its direction to a forum that has answers that might help.
Damn, your 8525 has alot of problems, iam guessing it was dropped??. There may be a chance that all these repairs will cost you the price of a working used hermes. Anyways, I had the same radio problem as you, and it was the most longest, and stressfull thing ever to get it to actually work. I was opening up hardware, flashing radio/roms, using mtty, numerous of times. Trust me, its not worth it. And if your flex cable is damaged its gonna cost $30 or more to fix. And if wifi or SD card slot is broken too, the device is practically an PDA of the past. You could try to fix it(With the possiblitiy of killing yourself from all that stress), or sell it on ebay for parts(sells for a decent price actually).
Thank you for your response. was kind of afraid that was the response i was gonna get. damn that sux. the $30 for the flex cable i could swing, but from what your saying it sounds like majority of my issues are hard ware and not software (like i was hoping) and ive priced most of that out and might as well buy a new one i agree. thanks though ill keep playing with it. but now i know not to get my hopes up.
For sd card problem, you might be able to get it to recognize the sd card if you insert then do a soft reset, others have had this issue. I'd also check to see if the sd card is registering on the pc with a card reader because if its not, you may need to get a new sd card.
Wifi, Might be a rom problem... Read up on the thread if others have this problem, might have a fix or might need to find another rom...
Here are Some of the Fixes that i have found and some of the issues i am still having~~
~Screen fades ---fixed Kinda, i have disassembled the phone checking all the connections and putting tape tightly over all connections, i still get the white screen on occasion but its %90 better and i can always press on the bottom ov the screen and bring it right back
~Radio drops out one min i have full bars and the next nothing. i havent found any patterns to it. (still an issue but am trying to update radio ROM to one that i read in the forums that is supposed to be better for my carrier. If i can get the RUU issue corrected)
~When send sms it will send a few but then i will get a few that come back saying phone not ready. (i have found it is realted to the radio issue above)
~Power button has a almost exact 23 second delay-- i have found it seems to be correctable if i make sure there are not alot of stuff running. (found a program that actually closes the apps with the x button instead of just minimizing them)
~Wifi wont connect to secure network--didnt really do anything but seems to be working again (who knows)
~SD card inserted and phone doesnt show any signs of recognizing it including when you go to setting/system/memory it says card not installed, doesnt even light up when you insert the card... still an issue but now it will on occasion recognize the SD Card.
Thank you in advance for any help even iif its direction to a forum that has answers that might help.
Hey guys I recently picked up a G1 from my friend and I went through the process of getting it unlocked ton work on my At&t sim which works very well and I love it even though I did lose 3g its still nice. But I am running into a problem I have a 4gb SD card in it but when I try to format it or do anything with it, it says theres no memory card installed. Is there something I am missing or is my SD slot dead? I would really like to get this fixed since there are a few apps I would like to toy around with but they all require the SD card functioning.
Any help you guys can provide would be appreciated.
You should probably attempt to format/mount this card with a separate card reader.
If the phone is rooted and has a custom recovery installed, you can enter recovery by holding down the home button and power button while the device is turned off. If there is a custom recovery installed you should have an option for "console"
Code:
mount /sdcard <enter>
df<enter>
Post back and tell us if you see anything for /dev/block/mmcblkp(number) if any.
Thanks.
I never rooted the phone and the old owner wasn't smart enough to even try lol so that's out of the question I guess I'll have to try and hook it up to my old S621 when I get a chance.
I never rooted the phone and the old owner wasn't smart enough to even try lol so that's out of the question I guess I'll have to try and hook it up to my old S621 when I get a chance.
your card might be dead, my best guess. worst case scenario, your microsd slot is broken
the sd isn't dead. I can plug it into my computer and it works perfectly so I am gonna assume its my sd slot but still wanna test it on my other phone before I contact HTC to see if they will repair it.
You also may want to try the good ol' Nintendo fix (blow in the slot).
If you are feeling extra curious, take it apart and clean the contacts with a toothbrush. So, uh... good luck with that.
meh tried the sd card on my buddies phone and it came up saying unexpected error when he tried to reformat it so I am assuming the card is dead. Oh well at least I have a 1g to fall back on. Ty guys for the help.