N910C vs N910F ? Need advice - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all
My G3 broke last week and I was leering towards a G4 however the Note 4 tempts me due to the bigger size and the S stylus as I'm a uni student. Is the Note 4 really worth it? I've heard of touch wiz lag horrors
I however have a few concerns.:
I need the handset to primarily work in the UK on both 3G and 4G. I know the F will work but how about the C ?
Which is the better variant of both of them? I am looking to install many custom roms as well as root it so which is best for this? Does the C variant have a decent custom rom scene?
I have the option of buying either the N910F or the N910C at a slightly reduced price, and I intend to keep the phone for at least 1 year.
Also how does guarantee work? If I root or flash custom roms, will I lose my guarantee?
Thanks

Hello, i'm user of the n910c version. For the network both have the same so you'll don't have any problem with this. For general use, i didn't have any problem with touchwiz (even if i hate this interface). If you want to root or install custom ROM you'll break your guarantee (the Knox guarantee in download mode will be incremented ). And the main problem is since lollipop (with coj5 bootloader) you don't go back to earlier version (everybody says that the bootloader is blocked). Si if you want flash custom ROM in lollipop version you can have cyanogenmod, some ports of GS6 edge or GN5 and other from stock GN4 ROM.
I hope you understood my bad english (sorry i'm french).
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I'm in the UK on EE network. I sold my 910f on eBay and bought the 910c from simply electronics sim free for less than I sold the f for lol (£322.95)
Got to say I much prefer the exynos version it runs a lot cooler than the snapdragon variant plus it's easier to port n5 rom to the n910c as well. Any info you want just hit me up
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I've got the 910C and am extremely happy with it (came from a Note 3; tried the LG G4 and returned it -- screen too small, also didn't like losing space by not having capacitive buttons, and missed my stylus).
I'm a touch disappointed by the custom rom scene for the 910C -- Wanam has left it, as has Dr. Ketan. I'm running a stock, debloated rom (ShonkUK) and, thanks to Chainfire, can now do it rooted with an enforcing stock kernel -- but you can do that on the 910F too. Looking at these forums, it seems to me that the 910F/Snapdragon development scene is a bit more active -- but not so much more so that it makes me regret my choice. Without having tried them both, I'm impressed with Exynos . I don't think you can go wrong with either.

In my opinion n910f is better choice because of performance battery and more roms
If this helped you press the thanks button.
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I have an SM-N910F, and very happy with it. I heard the N910C indeed runs a bit cooler, but nothing noteworthy. Anyway, you can't go wrong with either one of these.
-RFB

RealFreddyBananas said:
I have an SM-N910F, and very happy with it. I heard the N910C indeed runs a bit cooler, but nothing noteworthy. Anyway, you can't go wrong with either one of these.
-RFB
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Recently got myself the SM-910C and happy camper. Moved from G3. Noticed quite a few improvements in battery, display and gaming. Wow!
I ran Blissrom on my G3 if that helps.

Just got new N910C, it has better performance in usual tasks, Touchwiz seems faster, and audio is better. Also C has few Note 5 Roms available...

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What apps and roms are you looking forward to see on yoyr Note 3?

I'm looking forward to a quick root& recovery. and some speedy stripped down roms
also it would be magical if we could get chainfire3D just think of the tegra chips we could emulate with that cpu power
oh.. I almost forgot..
a swap int sd with ext sd is much appriciated also
A rooted STOCK rom, this is all i need.
All other, like Wanam, Omega etc but
Specially waiting to taste MiniTab roms
Note 3's size is perfect for Pablet+Tablet Ui.....Hope someone would Definitly polt Galaxy Tab 2014 rom to Note 3...buth device has pretty similar hardware specs
only a rooted rom.
everything else will come later
There was a rom for the Note 2 that caught my attention that used a samsung base, but modified AOSP visuals, so you kept all the goodies, but had the nice status bar and google apps as opposed to the TW calendar and stuff.
The slick part about the screenshots for it was the nice theme as well. Instead of the plain black and blue AOSP, it had a nice polished white theme, kind of similar to what you see on MIUI/sense. But it still had multi-window support and full s-pen features.
Of course, the rom had some optimizations as well but that's only icing on the cake.
I will be buying the Note 3 exynos version in India.
I read a lot about developers not supporting the exynos. CM 10.2 was ported to S4 i9500 but it still has bugs. Camera not working.
Will the scene be better for Note 3 by any chance. Or I should consider importing Note 3 snapdragon 800 from outside. ?
For the. Tmobile version Tweaked. Awesome rom and Dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242972
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If Miui would get official support for the note 3 I would be very happy! (the note 2 has official support which includes all the features of the s-pen) otherwise just a rooted stock rom would be okay, I can freeze/delete all bloat myself then
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Would love too know will a third party launcher like ADW EX. Work with the spen!
vikas724 said:
I will be buying the Note 3 exynos version in India.
I read a lot about developers not supporting the exynos. CM 10.2 was ported to S4 i9500 but it still has bugs. Camera not working.
Will the scene be better for Note 3 by any chance. Or I should consider importing Note 3 snapdragon 800 from outside. ?
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I'm from India too..I also think snapdragon is better..but note 3 is already at 50k, importing will cost a fortune.
another point ,as you must be aware is warranty..even if u can get one imported do you have easy access to that country so that in case of an issue you can avail warranty?
if the above two are ok then go for the snapdragon version.
By the way if you do import it could you please just send me the details like price, country and such?
StylishMafia said:
I'm from India too..I also think snapdragon is better..but note 3 is already at 50k, importing will cost a fortune.
another point ,as you must be aware is warranty..even if u can get one imported do you have easy access to that country so that in case of an issue you can avail warranty?
if the above two are ok then go for the snapdragon version.
By the way if you do import it could you please just send me the details like price, country and such?
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yh 50k is a lot. But we will be able to get it in 44-45k . There are always coupons available on indiatimes website. I don't think Samsung provides international warranty. In any case it only covers manufacturing defects I guess not accidental insurance. I have had 3 iphones, lumia 920 never had to use the warranty once.
I have friend going to hong kong at the end of this month. Will see what is the price and all, then decide.
Tweaked for Verizon or Rooted Stock Rom, Xposed can handle the rest of my needs.
How long do you reckon it will take for the GN3 to be rooted?
I would love to see Omega Rom come here.
Root on the stock ROM is all I need.
Roms:
PhoeniX
CM
PA
Need whompasaurus!
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Wanna buy, 9000 or 9005? help!

Guys i wanna buy a note 3 but not sure which one please help.
1 im a gamer so which is best one 4 it?
2 country im livin in has i9000(octa core) edition. possible to have 9005 w no issues ? (services - ESPECIALLY language & font)
3 overall, snap or exy?
Thx 4 ur hlp.
geek360 said:
Guys i wanna buy a note 3 but not sure which one please help.
1 im a gamer so which is best one 4 it?
2 country im livin in has i9000(octa core) edition. possible to have 9005 w no issues ? (services - ESPECIALLY language & font)
3 overall, snap or exy?
Thx 4 ur hlp.
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n9005 is better the the n900, but if custom roms is a concern for you, then n9005 is the right one.
in doing daily tasks, there are no noticeable differences except for battery life which i read that it is better on the n9005.
if you can get someone to buy it for you (n9005) and check for hardware issues, it would be great.
i myself had to buy it from outside my country (my cousin bought it and sent it to me) and got it right with no problems from the first time.
i bought the n9005 version because custom roms are a big concern for me (you know, why am i buying an android if i'm not going to mod it?)
geek360 said:
Guys i wanna buy a note 3 but not sure which one please help.
1 im a gamer so which is best one 4 it?
2 country im livin in has i9000(octa core) edition. possible to have 9005 w no issues ? (services - ESPECIALLY language & font)
3 overall, snap or exy?
Thx 4 ur hlp.
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Have a look on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600536
For all intents and purposes, you will always want to stick with the Qualcomm Snapdragon version of any phone, including the N900x. The Samsung Exynos SoC may be able to provide you with better battery life and performance (Samsung's approach to controlling both hardware and software of their devices like Apple), but the weak developer support is simply not worth it. And all versions of the Qualcomm model (with the exception of Verizon's) are the same International version with an unlocked bootloader, and therefore can be flashed with any ROM from the Android Development forum.
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Exynos device is not supported by many good devs, so really, if you want to use custom roms on your phone, then you are better buy an snapdragon version
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[Q] Considering buying the S5. You guys' satisfaction with the S5? Any regrets?

Hi guys, I'm considering upgrading the S5, but have heard that it's like the "black sheep" of the S family. Is that true? Is it a worthy upgrade for S4 users? Anyone here has any regret of getting the phone (camera quality not as good as expected, battery life too short, phone gets hot quickly,...) ? I've used numerous Android device including the Optimus one, Optimus 3D, Optimus 4x HD, Optimus GK (yeah lots of LG products), HTC 8x and currently Xperia Z1 compact, and decided to go Samsung this time. Is it the right choice at the moment (I really don't like how the S6 will be removing SD slot and removable battery and stuff...) ? Thanks in advance .
// Edit: even though I've never cared about camera quality in previous phone, I do want a good camera this time. Will the S5's camera blow me away compared to current alternatives within the price range?
From my perspective, coming from an S2, yes I am really happy with the phone. Whether you will see much performance difference between newer samsung devices (S3 & S4) and the S5....I couldn't comment......but I have read that there is not that great a difference between the S4 and S5. From the viewpoint of removable battery and expandable memory, if that is important to you, then the S5 is probably the last chance you'll have to own a Samsung device. The only potential 'fly in the ointment' with the S5 is KNOX......do your research on that, then decide if you want an S5.......
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Have never regretted a single moment. Upgraded from the S3 and got the 901F , everything flies , it's just on what's your daily usage,how you use it then you can be satisfied. About the camera part, I myself don't really mind about camera quality but I can say in my opinion makes me satisifed ^_^ altho there's not much dev for my model , it's good to have a phone that has removable battery , expandable memory since S6 isn't gonna provide that
@op - Most/All of the bad points you've heard about the S5 will be coming from people who upgraded to Lollipop early on / didn't factory reset after the update, KK users from everything Ive read, are very happy with the phone, I run LP and am very happy with it too
Coming from a Lumia 620, it's a massive upgrade to me and IMO, a great phone, couldn't be happier, battery life is great too
If you go looking for negative reviews of a device, you'll find them for any device no matter how good it is
I just got the phone two weeks ago but I didn't realise how hard it would be to root without tripping Knox. I've rooted all my phones in the past which involved jumping through a few hoops but this scenario is diabolical! There are so many ROM versions, so many out-of-date forum threads for all different S5 models. I think the geographical region has an effect as well. First you have to downgrade your ROM back to KitKat and then root it and then upgrade. It's an absolute minefield! I think it might be easier if you don't mind tripping the Knox warranty flag but I'm not ready to void mine.
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I just got the phone two weeks ago but I didn't realise how hard it would be to root without tripping Knox. I've rooted all my phones in the past which involved jumping through a few hoops but this scenario is diabolical! There are so many ROM versions, so many out-of-date forum threads for all different S5 models. I think the geographical region has an effect as well. First you have to downgrade your ROM back to KitKat and then root it and then upgrade. It's an absolute minefield! I think it might be easier if you don't mind tripping the Knox warranty flag but I'm not ready to void mine.
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I was the same for about 2 months, eventually got sick of waiting for a LP root method that didn't trip KNOX, and just went for it - pleased I did now
There is a question over whether or not tripping KNOX in the EU voids warranty or not too, some people say it does, some people say it doesn't and they would have to prove that flashing custom software was the cause of the fault, so if your screen stops responding, even flashing back to stock doesn't fix it, it wasn't your fault, but if you pop the speakers by modding the volume after rooting, then it is your fault, those sort of things
Recently I have used Galaxy S4, Moto G, HTC One M8 & Asend 740 ..... finally I got a Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) with Snapdragon CPU.
I'm kind of user who doesn't play games in my smartphone, I just use it for calls Whatsapp, viber Instagram & the like apps.
to be honest yes I'm so much satisfied with the Galaxy S5 specially the great screen.
Here is a list of most notable stuff in Galaxy S5 { Kitkat 4.4.2 }
1- Camera is very nice but the images quality in low light cases & indoors are little bit noisy.
2- the UI sometimes will lag any smartphone will lag while in use ....... as you know Galaxy S5 use the Touchwize UI which it is featured rich & heavy I prefer to use feature rich UI with little lag than using light UI with very few features.
3- some time I'm having battery drain and mobile will become hot when using some Apps like viber.
4- in general battery life is very good .
in the end I love to use a new smartphone every while .......... I have used Android, Windows Phone & iOS, Galaxy S5 is a smartphone which you can keep for one or two years, it is really a smartphone you can be satisfied with it.
Yeah.....touchwiz can be a bit heavy in use, but if you replace it with a launcher like Nova or Apex (I use Nova) that can help........
And as far as games are concerned, the games I play are emulated PS1 games, and they run without ANY lag and without overheating the phone.......
Battery life on this device is better than on any other Samsung phone I've ever used......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
I have used all Samsung's Galaxy S series.
From Galaxy S1 to S5.
And yes, S5 is a better phone than S4.
Its build quality, battery life, Speed and features are better than S4.
Camera is almost same but doesnt focus on small objects.
+ Fingerprint, heart rate, water resistance
thank you guys @keithross39 , @fitris97 , @*Detection* , @seanspotatobusiness , @one-option, @Aafsut . I think I'll get the S5. Unfortunately where I live only the T-Mobile version is left (other variants including international 900F are sold out). But seems like the T version is one of the variants with unlocked bootloader and I don't mind having KNOX tripped (our service centers here are sh*t and they likely won't know about checking that), does that mean I can have an easier way to root the phone? I have rooted LGs and Sony in the past and they are fairly easy to do, but no experience with Samsung (Odin and stuffs)... Also the KNOX flag just voids the warranty right? No other side effect?
And I suppose I can flash most 900F ROMs on the T-Mobile version? I have asked in the T-Mobile forum and got one confirmation about Omega Rom for 900F running fine on the 900T, but just want to be extra sure
You can use odin to flash CF auto root i believe just a simple step, just find your correct model and flash it. About KNOX , if you trip it , mainly , you void your warranty as well as you can't update OTA if you want to see see whether there is an update available.
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You can use odin to flash CF auto root i believe just a simple step, just find your correct model and flash it. About KNOX , if you trip it , mainly , you void your warranty as well as you can't update OTA if you want to see see whether there is an update available.
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ARRRG I knew it! No OTA is a big bummer Guess I'll have to be careful with that KNOX thingy...
// Also, will the S5 likely to receive any other major OS upgrades? 5.1 or even higher?
Well if you trip and theres new update available you can always download the right firmware for your phone and flash it via odin no problem. Well it's up to them to release it, right now latest is lollipop 5.0? For my model its 5.0.1 so different model different timing as to releasing so probably yes? Haha

[Q] Can I use the 910C (Exynos) in Hungary?

tl;dr: ^ See topic text. ( I guess I would not have LTE here with that, but that's not a big issue at all. Coverage is horrible in Hungary anyway. )
A few shops* sell the 910C here as well, not just the F version.
Now I know that the Exynos version is faster, more power efficient.
And I guess all official updates will also reach this variant faster or pretty much with the same speed.
On the other hand, we have the Snapdragon, which got much more custom roms and section on XDA.
(Honestly it feels so weird that the 1.9ghz A57 can beat the S805 clocked at 2.7ghz in single-thread....)
Anyway. Personally, I used the S3, S4, Note 2, S4 Mini, Motorola phones... and every time I installed Cyanogenmod or other CM/AOSP-variant roms, it was riddled with bugs.
Don't get me wrong, the Note 2 have the DN4 Rom which is basically a Note 4 rom ported, and it's great. It's stable, it's got a few quirks, but it works.
But from that, it doesn't seem to be a good deal to trade speed, and power just for more roms. (Let alone Knox which I don't want to trip.)
Sooo... I would be pretty fine with the Exynos version.
But can I use it here?
* = all gsm shops are shady in the country, that's why I'm super-cautious.
Use Exynos in Hungary
If you mean just using it as a normal phone I don't see why not.
The type of processor will have no influence on the normal use of the phone. (as in calling, texting internet and email and such)
If you would want to root it and start working with custom ROMs it might not e the best idea. Most open source development is on the Snapdragon variant.
The AOSP ROMs have come a long way over the last couple of years. I experience hardly any bugs with the bigger devellopment teams.
All the best, Willem
Thank you! Well, I know the difference is tiny, but you cannot install roms and stuff without tripping KNOX anyway. It will be a business phone so I would like to keep my warranty.
Not sure if allowed, but please, excuse my bump.
I would like to order the phone as soon as possible.
So far I'm convinced that the Exynos will be fine for me.
But the main question remains. Can I use it in this country?
I tried to look up the chipset, the phone, everything - but there is just no information on what frequencies does it support / etc.
So I had a wild idea. Screenshot the box at unboxing on Youtube, so I can check.
Then I used this:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
That says it should work. What do you guys think?

i9505 vs i9506 - Which one should I buy?

Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
diogofd8 said:
Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
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I also had to face this decision. I eventually chose for the 9506 version. On one side because of the major speed difference. But that's something you already know.
It's true that the 9505 version has more support and more roms available. It will probably last longer in terms of "custom support". But the 9506 doesn't fall behind in these terms. It has less roms, but there still are a few good ones. Also lot of new rom threads are opening, who knows where they will be in a few months. The support of the 9506 is at least better then a few other flagships released than and now.
Besides, if you purely like customization and already have an optimized rom, xposed will give you a lot and only needs root (which will always be there).
For me the choice was easy.

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