tl;dr: ^ See topic text. ( I guess I would not have LTE here with that, but that's not a big issue at all. Coverage is horrible in Hungary anyway. )
A few shops* sell the 910C here as well, not just the F version.
Now I know that the Exynos version is faster, more power efficient.
And I guess all official updates will also reach this variant faster or pretty much with the same speed.
On the other hand, we have the Snapdragon, which got much more custom roms and section on XDA.
(Honestly it feels so weird that the 1.9ghz A57 can beat the S805 clocked at 2.7ghz in single-thread....)
Anyway. Personally, I used the S3, S4, Note 2, S4 Mini, Motorola phones... and every time I installed Cyanogenmod or other CM/AOSP-variant roms, it was riddled with bugs.
Don't get me wrong, the Note 2 have the DN4 Rom which is basically a Note 4 rom ported, and it's great. It's stable, it's got a few quirks, but it works.
But from that, it doesn't seem to be a good deal to trade speed, and power just for more roms. (Let alone Knox which I don't want to trip.)
Sooo... I would be pretty fine with the Exynos version.
But can I use it here?
* = all gsm shops are shady in the country, that's why I'm super-cautious.
Use Exynos in Hungary
If you mean just using it as a normal phone I don't see why not.
The type of processor will have no influence on the normal use of the phone. (as in calling, texting internet and email and such)
If you would want to root it and start working with custom ROMs it might not e the best idea. Most open source development is on the Snapdragon variant.
The AOSP ROMs have come a long way over the last couple of years. I experience hardly any bugs with the bigger devellopment teams.
All the best, Willem
Thank you! Well, I know the difference is tiny, but you cannot install roms and stuff without tripping KNOX anyway. It will be a business phone so I would like to keep my warranty.
Not sure if allowed, but please, excuse my bump.
I would like to order the phone as soon as possible.
So far I'm convinced that the Exynos will be fine for me.
But the main question remains. Can I use it in this country?
I tried to look up the chipset, the phone, everything - but there is just no information on what frequencies does it support / etc.
So I had a wild idea. Screenshot the box at unboxing on Youtube, so I can check.
Then I used this:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
That says it should work. What do you guys think?
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I'm looking forward to a quick root& recovery. and some speedy stripped down roms
also it would be magical if we could get chainfire3D just think of the tegra chips we could emulate with that cpu power
oh.. I almost forgot..
a swap int sd with ext sd is much appriciated also
A rooted STOCK rom, this is all i need.
All other, like Wanam, Omega etc but
Specially waiting to taste MiniTab roms
Note 3's size is perfect for Pablet+Tablet Ui.....Hope someone would Definitly polt Galaxy Tab 2014 rom to Note 3...buth device has pretty similar hardware specs
only a rooted rom.
everything else will come later
There was a rom for the Note 2 that caught my attention that used a samsung base, but modified AOSP visuals, so you kept all the goodies, but had the nice status bar and google apps as opposed to the TW calendar and stuff.
The slick part about the screenshots for it was the nice theme as well. Instead of the plain black and blue AOSP, it had a nice polished white theme, kind of similar to what you see on MIUI/sense. But it still had multi-window support and full s-pen features.
Of course, the rom had some optimizations as well but that's only icing on the cake.
I will be buying the Note 3 exynos version in India.
I read a lot about developers not supporting the exynos. CM 10.2 was ported to S4 i9500 but it still has bugs. Camera not working.
Will the scene be better for Note 3 by any chance. Or I should consider importing Note 3 snapdragon 800 from outside. ?
For the. Tmobile version Tweaked. Awesome rom and Dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242972
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If Miui would get official support for the note 3 I would be very happy! (the note 2 has official support which includes all the features of the s-pen) otherwise just a rooted stock rom would be okay, I can freeze/delete all bloat myself then
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Would love too know will a third party launcher like ADW EX. Work with the spen!
vikas724 said:
I will be buying the Note 3 exynos version in India.
I read a lot about developers not supporting the exynos. CM 10.2 was ported to S4 i9500 but it still has bugs. Camera not working.
Will the scene be better for Note 3 by any chance. Or I should consider importing Note 3 snapdragon 800 from outside. ?
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I'm from India too..I also think snapdragon is better..but note 3 is already at 50k, importing will cost a fortune.
another point ,as you must be aware is warranty..even if u can get one imported do you have easy access to that country so that in case of an issue you can avail warranty?
if the above two are ok then go for the snapdragon version.
By the way if you do import it could you please just send me the details like price, country and such?
StylishMafia said:
I'm from India too..I also think snapdragon is better..but note 3 is already at 50k, importing will cost a fortune.
another point ,as you must be aware is warranty..even if u can get one imported do you have easy access to that country so that in case of an issue you can avail warranty?
if the above two are ok then go for the snapdragon version.
By the way if you do import it could you please just send me the details like price, country and such?
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yh 50k is a lot. But we will be able to get it in 44-45k . There are always coupons available on indiatimes website. I don't think Samsung provides international warranty. In any case it only covers manufacturing defects I guess not accidental insurance. I have had 3 iphones, lumia 920 never had to use the warranty once.
I have friend going to hong kong at the end of this month. Will see what is the price and all, then decide.
Tweaked for Verizon or Rooted Stock Rom, Xposed can handle the rest of my needs.
How long do you reckon it will take for the GN3 to be rooted?
I would love to see Omega Rom come here.
Root on the stock ROM is all I need.
Roms:
PhoeniX
CM
PA
Need whompasaurus!
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I would prefer to be without a contract, I'm okay being without LTE in the USA, would like international usability, and am confused about all these different variants in model numbers, processor types, and versions (e.g. Google edition, Active edition, etc...). Thanks!
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I would prefer to be without a contract, I'm okay being without LTE in the USA, would like international usability, and am confused about all these different variants in model numbers, processor types, and versions (e.g. Google edition, Active edition, etc...). Thanks!
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Go for I9506.I think is the best.I own this phone and is better than I9505.But if you are looking for any custom rom you will not find anyhing for it(yet) only root and a few mods compatible from I9505.But overall is way better than i9505.The Snapdragon 800(2,3 Ghz and Adreno 330) does his job very well.And....there is no official android 4.3 for it.Just 4.2.2.I9506 rocks the benchmarks.In Antutu(stok ROM,stock Kernel) it scores around 35000 pts.
none , don t purchase an s4 , if u really want a Samsung device the s5 is coming soon , also concerning international usability with regional lock Samsung is not a good option
If you're considering a Google play edition device, you're better off with the nexus 5
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aresbv2000 said:
Go for I9506.I think is the best.I own this phone and is better than I9505.But if you are looking for any custom rom you will not find anyhing for it(yet) only root and a few mods compatible from I9505.But overall is way better than i9505.The Snapdragon 800(2,3 Ghz and Adreno 330) does his job very well.And....there is no official android 4.3 for it.Just 4.2.2.I9506 rocks the benchmarks.In Antutu(stok ROM,stock Kernel) it scores around 35000 pts.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I'm looking into this. What carrier are you using; any plan suggestions? (I'm not too eager to sign a contract)
difyel said:
none , don t purchase an s4 , if u really want a Samsung device the s5 is coming soon , also concerning international usability with regional lock Samsung is not a good option
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Has the S5 been announced? Doesn't Samsung usually release new year flagship phones in March/April? I'll need one much sooner than that.
Also, what's the problem with international use on a GS4? I think I remember reading that International GS4s in the USA don't have 4G use, and USA GS4s don't work well in other countries. If I get a rootable GS4, would this resolve this concern?
Thanks again for the help guys!
I was wondering if the community could help me make a decision as to which model S4 would be best suited for me for primary use in the USA with very light travel abroad. I’ve done my research on XDA and would like to hear some opinions of USA users of the S4.
I will outline some of my usage profile to help guide suggestions (this is not in order of importance).
• Primarily use data over Wi-Fi.
• Would like to root the phone.
• Telephone Voice Recording (my job description often requires taking directions over the phone)
• Wi-Fi calling would be great but not a must.
• I like to jump between AT&T and T-Mobile so I need to have that flexibility. Mostly for the prepaid services.
• I would prefer a very responsive device.
• A lot of voice communication over the phone primarily using a Bluetooth headset.
• 4G would be nice but 3G is more than adequate for my data needs.
• Fastest camera load times as well as picture quality is important to me.
• The phone will be purchased without a contract.
• I know what KNOX is but not sure how that would apply to which model to get if I want to root the phone.
Here are the options (if I leave something out please mention). If I state something incorrect please correct me.
i9500 - this is an eight core model, my understanding is that only four cores running at time anyway so there really is no advantage there. This is the first version of the S4.
i9505 - probably the one with the most development options as well as custom ROMs.
i9006 - probably the best performing version. Can it be rooted? KNOX workaround?
SGH-M919 - this is the T-Mobile version. My understanding is that it’s similar to the 9505 in terms of hardware performance and has LTE capability on the T-Mobile network. This will work also on PC Metro along with Wi-Fi calling on both T-Mobile and PC Metro.
What is the warranty situation on each of those for the USA (the T-Mobile one would be bought unlocked brand-new).
So based on my description of usage what do you guys recommend?
I like to thank everyone who contributes to helping me.
It depends on which operator you use?
9500 is dual-quad core, but there seems rumor in next version of Android update will make it octa core online at same time
9506 , best for performance, rooting yes but KNOX ,I think it comes out with 4.3 so already included KNOX bootloader in factory.
If you don't wanna 4G and need some flashing, 9500 or 9505 , no flashing? 9506
But if you want 4G, take M919
9505 and 919 are hardware identical except radio frequency (although some of them coincided, but I think 9505 may not work on T-Mobile, but I don't know for sure )
qtwrk said:
It depends on which operator you use?
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I’m going to jump from AT&T to T-Mobile. Primarily the prepaid variance. The reason being is I travel for work and certain areas get better coverage than others so I constantly flip back and forth.
qtwrk said:
9500 is dual-quad core, but there seems rumor in next version of Android update will make it octa core online at same time
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I wasn’t aware of this. But honestly by the time this rolls around I will probably be moving on to the next device.
qtwrk said:
9506 , best for performance, rooting yes but KNOX ,I think it comes out with 4.3 so already included KNOX bootloader in factory.
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So if I just want to root the phone will this affect KNOX on this model. And is there a workaround for this?
qtwrk said:
If you don't wanna 4G and need some flashing, 9500 or 9505 , no flashing? 9506
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I don’t really care that much about 4G. If I have it it’s nice, 3G will suit me more than enough. When you talk about flashing your talking about putting custom ROMs? That has nothing to do with rooting? And I am assuming you say that because the 9506 lacks in development because most people are going to wait for the S5, which is basically going to be the 9506 but waterproof.
Can you root the 9506?
Is there a big difference between the 9506 and 9505 in terms of performance? If you have to take a guess is it a 10% increase 30% increase?
Thank you for your response.
Knight_Droid said:
I’m going to jump from AT&T to T-Mobile. Primarily the prepaid variance. The reason being is I travel for work and certain areas get better coverage than others so I constantly flip back and forth.
I wasn’t aware of this. But honestly by the time this rolls around I will probably be moving on to the next device.
So if I just want to root the phone will this affect KNOX on this model. And is there a workaround for this?
Probably rooting without trigger KNOX, but I am not sure
I don’t really care that much about 4G. If I have it it’s nice, 3G will suit me more than enough. When you talk about flashing your talking about putting custom ROMs? That has nothing to do with rooting? And I am assuming you say that because the 9506 lacks in development because most people are going to wait for the S5, which is basically going to be the 9506 but waterproof.
Yes, 9506 is in the middle of very embarrassing position
Can you root the 9506?
Yes, there is way to root it in forum.
Is there a big difference between the 9506 and 9505 in terms of performance? If you have to take a guess is it a 10% increase 30% increase?
Personally I'd say 9506 is about 40% over 9505 on performance, but it's all kinda over-performance for normal usage. It's like you have a car can run at 200 km/h and other one on 300 km/h where your highway is only allowed at 150 km/h ... that's what I think about it, I had 9506 once and turn back just because of lack of development
Thank you for your response.
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Sorry for answer like this, tapatalk isn't good when reply it, I will try to answer your further question anyway I can.
Either, I think you should consult the operator if 9500/9505 works well on certain radio frequency before you buy it
qtwrk said:
Sorry for answer like this, tapatalk isn't good when reply it, I will try to answer your further question anyway I can.
Either, I think you should consult the operator if 9500/9505 works well on certain radio frequency before you buy it
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Ok thank you.
Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
diogofd8 said:
Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
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I also had to face this decision. I eventually chose for the 9506 version. On one side because of the major speed difference. But that's something you already know.
It's true that the 9505 version has more support and more roms available. It will probably last longer in terms of "custom support". But the 9506 doesn't fall behind in these terms. It has less roms, but there still are a few good ones. Also lot of new rom threads are opening, who knows where they will be in a few months. The support of the 9506 is at least better then a few other flagships released than and now.
Besides, if you purely like customization and already have an optimized rom, xposed will give you a lot and only needs root (which will always be there).
For me the choice was easy.
Hi,
I hope one of you kind people could help point me in the right direction for some advice on custom ROMs for (UK version of) the Galaxy S8, how they affect performance etc, and where I might start learning more...?
Current situation
I've had a OP3T since launch and have come to the conclusion that even though it's a great phone (IMO) it's just too big/heavy and I want something smaller.
Ideal solution
Buy a second-hand/cheap S8, wipe it, install a custom ROM that's as close to "stock" Android as possible (I'm really nit a fan of Samsung's software and I'll likely have better support/updates etc from a community supported ROM than Samsung themselves)
Questions/concerns
I'm quite confused by the potential differences between the UK model (Exynos) and the Snapdragon model and how that might affect my plans etc?
What would be a good ROM that would deliver a stock Android experience whilst also being as bug free as possible, still retain things like great camera performance, good battery/performance balance, all "main" functions supported (fingerprint, GPS, BT etc)?
Finally, what are your thoughts on my idea? Is it "wrong"? Should I be looking elsewhere? What am I not aware of etc?
Thanks in advance if you take the time to help - it'll be very much appreciated...
PugRallye said:
Hi,
I hope one of you kind people could help point me in the right direction for some advice on custom ROMs for (UK version of) the Galaxy S8, how they affect performance etc, and where I might start learning more...?
Current situation
I've had a OP3T since launch and have come to the conclusion that even though it's a great phone (IMO) it's just too big/heavy and I want something smaller.
Ideal solution
Buy a second-hand/cheap S8, wipe it, install a custom ROM that's as close to "stock" Android as possible (I'm really nit a fan of Samsung's software and I'll likely have better support/updates etc from a community supported ROM than Samsung themselves)
Questions/concerns
I'm quite confused by the potential differences between the UK model (Exynos) and the Snapdragon model and how that might affect my plans etc?
What would be a good ROM that would deliver a stock Android experience whilst also being as bug free as possible, still retain things like great camera performance, good battery/performance balance, all "main" functions supported (fingerprint, GPS, BT etc)?
Finally, what are your thoughts on my idea? Is it "wrong"? Should I be looking elsewhere? What am I not aware of etc?
Thanks in advance if you take the time to help - it'll be very much appreciated...
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The main differences between the snapdragon (north america/america/china) and exynos(international) is that the snapdragon version has a locked bootloader (China has unlockable bootloader), so no magisk root, no proper custom roms and no custom kernels, in terms of performance the exynos is better in all aspects bar 1, the adreno gpuin snapdragon is a little better.
If you are looking for a clean android/lineageos based Rom il be honest with you, you maybe waiting a long time, currently only lineageos os Rom is in alpha, so a lot of stuff not working, but there are people working on it.
Most time are stock Samsung firmware based but optimised, you will find debloated version and there is a version where pretty much all Samsung apps are removed.
Also if you rely on Samsung pay once you root and install twrp and so on you will permanent trip Knox counter and it will void Samsung pay, you will however be able to use android pay
sofir786 said:
The main differences between the snapdragon (north america/america/china) and exynos(international) is that the snapdragon version has a locked bootloader (China has unlockable bootloader), so no magisk root, no proper custom roms and no custom kernels, in terms of performance the exynos is better in all aspects bar 1, the adreno gpuin snapdragon is a little better.
If you are looking for a clean android/lineageos based Rom il be honest with you, you maybe waiting a long time, currently only lineageos os Rom is in alpha, so a lot of stuff not working, but there are people working on it.
Most time are stock Samsung firmware based but optimised, you will find debloated version and there is a version where pretty much all Samsung apps are removed.
Also if you rely on Samsung pay once you root and install twrp and so on you will permanent trip Knox counter and it will void Samsung pay, you will however be able to use android pay
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Thanks for the information...
I guess I could live with a debloated version of the Samsung ROM - I can get a lot of the stock Android "fee" from using a 3rd party launcher etc.
Ideally though I'd like to replace all the default apps with Google variants - clock, contacts etc, and remove the Samsung variants - is that something that's possibly in these debloated versions you mention?
I'm not interested in Samsung pay though - but out of interest, is this totally non-reversible? i.e. if I was to restore to a stock ROM, re-lock the bootloader etc, Samsung pay would still not work?
If you don't want the Samsung experience, skip the s8.
Yes launchers and whatnot, in the end the software is Samsung with no alternative ROM wise.
There are equally good and cheaper phones with better ROM support. The S8 is only an option if you want the best screen and camera or/and really love their approach to software.
I did come from the 3t too and in hindsight would take the 3t over the s8 any day.
domsch1988 said:
If you don't want the Samsung experience, skip the s8.
Yes launchers and whatnot, in the end the software is Samsung with no alternative ROM wise.
There are equally good and cheaper phones with better ROM support. The S8 is only an option if you want the best screen and camera or/and really love their approach to software.
I did come from the 3t too and in hindsight would take the 3t over the s8 any day.
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That's really interesting...
I'm just fed up with the size and weight of the 3T - and there are no other phones that really appeal (other than the S8) when it comes to size, features etc.
I'm still quite tempted by a second hand S8 (can be had for about £400, immaculate, second hand) - at that price I can't think of many alternatives...?
If you want Android stock experience forget about it. At this point there's just an LineageOS 14 alpha version. Someone said that there's people working on it. Might be. But since first release (October 2017) 6 months later there's no "public" progress. So my expectations are very low leaning towards none. But you can try an optimised touchwiz rom (there's plenty of them) or even those "Google edition" roms. Based on Touchwiz but with Samsung stock apps replaced by Google's counterparts (dialer, messenger and I think camera).