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I don’t see a thread like this so I would like to start one
I have noticed a ton of changes in the stock DL30 build and there are still some i probably haven’t ran into yet. I think it would be fun to see what changes people have noticed. . I know a lot of these are in the original leak thread but that thread is too saturated with questions and issues people are having.
I would kind of like to keep it clean so I would like to see lists of changes only and not a ton of questions.
I will start off with a few things I have noticed so far. I have left out some of the obvious things that comes with froyo but feel free to add them if you wish
-Facebook syncs contacts automatically. No need to get friends and then check the ones you want from Facebook
-You can now manually join contacts. Maybe you could do this before?
-You can now use custom ringtones for contacts that aren’t local on the phone
-You can use media files for ringtones
-Can now use multiple exchange accounts
-Can now use out of office for exchange accounts
-Can use pin unlock even though it doesn’t work because it says you need a symbol
-New theme which I actually like.
-Has new e-mail and text counts on the Touch wiz icons
-Can use media or voice tones for alarm
-The sliding thingy when you are typing, makes it much easier to correct spelling mistakes
-Can change fonts
-Media hub added
-Includes Samsung keyboard which I prefer over the others now
-Dock now works!
Only thing I don't like is that you have to enable background data in order to do anything related to data. Never had to do that before.
Anyone got yahoo email setup on the new DL30? I tried to read email (HTML based) from like amazon and other spam I usually get and now it say message too long, cant not display.
Anyone getting that too?
Font changer
No google maps originally
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Pinch to view home screens.
Email count on the home screen is awesome....
jv
Few things I noticed so far:
For exchange accounts it lets you choose seperate peak and off peak sync times which is cool.
The notifications has an auto-rotation on/off button along with your wifi, bt etc. But it doesn't really work with your homescreens unless you install laungher pro or something.
Signal strength has definitely increased.
Also, after I got DL30, I was asked to update camera firmware, and that added a couple of minor changes to camera.
Also forgot to mention that while in Car or Desk cradle the home screen now is landscape. Also when you get calls when on either the call screen is landscape!!! can you say "Awesome"!!!!
jv
And I am sure everyone is dying to know this, they replaced blockbuster with media hub.
Couple of things, keep in mind I was rooted running a custom ROM previously and now have LP running:
1. I like the changes to gmail (I was used to 2.2 gmail from my droid, took me a sec to figure where the send button moved to)
2. For whatever reason, after flashing and restoring apps with Titanium, I was debinged, however, that applies to voice search and all functions of the car dock aside from basic search. Hence, none of those functions work (voice search, navigation, maps. Not a deal breaker..just an observation.
3. The battery icon seems likes it's not even tied to the actual charge amount. Again..no big deal, I use simi clock and I check my battery there.
4. Gallery renders FAST..
5. Market still on old version...hasn't updated yet.
Haven't had a chance to really check any flash websites but will get around to it.
Issue with back button from contacts
Has anyone else had the back button stop working when in contacts?
It worked fine when I first got done with the update, then sometime after sync of facebook it stopped working. Not sure if that was the cause but something made it stop.
Be sure to open up the camera app. New firmware there.
I also noticed some of the bloat apps I had to remove when I first got my phone are gone. CityID immediately comes to mind (which I thought was the worst thing ever!), but I also noticed the Kindle app is missing and someone already mentioned Blockbuster. I thought they were more, but my memory is escaping me now.
The stock music player is also different, but this is my first Android device and thus first experience with 2.2, so this might just be a froyo thing. When I'm playing music and turn the screen off, when I turn it back on to the lock screen, there's a piece of CD hanging from the top of the screen. This can be pulled down to control the music. I never noticed this before, but I also may have never used the music player with the puzzle lock screen. Anyway, it's a cool feature that I dig. If I change to the AOSP lock screen (which I like way more than the puzzle lock), will this feature still be present?
I found a workaround for the Exchange pin issue.
If you setup a PIN before you setup your Exchange account from settings-> location & security-> screen unlock, it will work. You'll still see the message about device security needing to be setup at first but it will start syncing and not ask again.
Hope this helps!
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wideopn11 said:
Has anyone else had the back button stop working when in contacts?
It worked fine when I first got done with the update, then sometime after sync of facebook it stopped working. Not sure if that was the cause but something made it stop.
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same here!
flushd said:
I found a workaround for the Exchange pin issue.
If you setup a PIN before you setup your Exchange account from settings-> location & security-> screen unlock, it will work. You'll still see the message about device security needing to be setup at first but it will start syncing and not ask again.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
This was the main thing that bugged me on this rom and i was able to get around it. If you have the security policies already pushed you can go into Device administrator and remove the one for your exchange account, then go change your PIN, after a while your e-mail account will tell you that you need to enable the security policy again.
Thanks again!
CDODGE said:
Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
This was the main thing that bugged me on this rom and i was able to get around it. If you have the security policies already pushed you can go into Device administrator and remove the one for your exchange account, then go change your PIN, after a while your e-mail account will tell you that you need to enable the security policy again.
Thanks again!
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Glad this worked for you. As an Exchange Administrator and user, this is one of the best features of Froyo!!! No more full keyboard to enter PIN.
shdowman said:
Couple of things, keep in mind I was rooted running a custom ROM previously and now have LP running:
1. I like the changes to gmail (I was used to 2.2 gmail from my droid, took me a sec to figure where the send button moved to)
2. For whatever reason, after flashing and restoring apps with Titanium, I was debinged, however, that applies to voice search and all functions of the car dock aside from basic search. Hence, none of those functions work (voice search, navigation, maps. Not a deal breaker..just an observation.
3. The battery icon seems likes it's not even tied to the actual charge amount. Again..no big deal, I use simi clock and I check my battery there.
4. Gallery renders FAST..
5. Market still on old version...hasn't updated yet.
Haven't had a chance to really check any flash websites but will get around to it.
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3. Yeah I noticed that also. It was showing all blue but when I go into settings it shows battery at 80%. Oh well.
5. Must have just updated Market because I went in a few minutes ago and it's showing the newest one.
Love this new update.
jv
How can you tell if its the new market? What changed? Also, tried some web sites for flash but doesnt want to play. I'll have to try with a different browser.
beeblebrux said:
I also noticed some of the bloat apps I had to remove when I first got my phone are gone. CityID immediately comes to mind (which I thought was the worst thing ever!), but I also noticed the Kindle app is missing and someone already mentioned Blockbuster. I thought they were more, but my memory is escaping me now.
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Yup, CityID, Blockbuster, Kindle, the demos for Need for Speed and Tetris and a few others.
I'm wondering if this was an early version of 2.2, before they had a chance to add all that crap in. Would be nice if Verizon listened to their customers and actually choose to leave that stuff out in 2.2.
you have to go to the market and download adobe flash player 10.1
i have noticed SIGNIFICANT battery/signal strength increase.. I was barely able to get 16 hours out of my battery before and now mines been on for 14 hours and its still at 60 percent.. my time without a signal was at like 30% on DL09 or DJ05 and now its at 4% without a signal. much more memory available.. could be because im using super clean tho..
Why oh why can't I see unread counts in sub folders on my active sync account? This is utter madness!!! Phone ending madness (no I don't want to pay for a separate app, it should be a standard function in the stock email app)
Why Google/Android are you forcing me to get an iPhone for work!!!
Anyone have a non rooted stock ROM work around? This really is the most annoying bug I have found with any phone!!!
THEsirloin said:
Why oh why can't I see unread counts in sub folders on my active sync account? This is utter madness!!! Phone ending madness (no I don't want to pay for a separate app, it should be a standard function in the stock email app)
Why Google/Android are you forcing me to get an iPhone for work!!!
Anyone have a non rooted stock ROM work around? This really is the most annoying bug I have found with any phone!!!
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I`d rather buy a email app then an iPhone, much cheaper (and better)
Quote: Thanks, but this has not helped.
A: Getting another email app because it misses one option makes makes more sense than changing to another OS imho.
gee2012 said:
I`d rather buy a email app then an iPhone, much cheaper (and better)
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Thanks, but this has not helped.I have owned an Android handset since the S2 so there's no need to troll
Simply put, how can they have possibly missed this utterly basic feature
Here are some reasons that you should not update your Android OS to 4.4 for the time being (as of Nov 15):
1. Flash is broken. The sideloaded Adobe flash no longer works (at least with Firefox)
2. Stock email app is not fully functional. Issues are reported with Exchange sync. In my case, I use imap mail. Stock email app even had problem syncing with my imap server. Emails deleted on my computer still showed on my N7.
3. XBMC (nightly built) is only working after you disable hardware decoding.
4. Most of the improvements in UI (launcher) featured in Nexus 5 DO NOT appear on Nexus 7. Your launcher looks nearly the same as 4.3.
Anyone else encountered issues with KitKat? Feel free to add to the list above.
[Update]
In case you updated to 4.4, and want to revert back, this is one way to return to 4.3:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...stock-using-a-full-factory-image-and-root-it/
Warning!!! You will lose your data. So backup anything important.
After you put 4.3 back, here is how you remove notification to automatic update to 4.4:
1. Go to Settings - Apps - ALL - Google Services Framework (Uncheck "Show notifications")
2. This doesn't stop Android from download the update. If your N7 is rooted, you can delete the update file. It is in /cache. (If your N7 is not rooted, you are out of luck)
3. In the future, if you want the update again:
Go to Settings - Apps - ALL - Google Services Framework (clear cache and data, restart)
For the reason 4, you can download and install Google Home launcher. It work perfectly ☺
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4. Most of the improvements in UI (launcher) featured in Nexus 5 DO NOT appear on Nexus 7. Your launcher looks nearly the same as 4.3.
Anyone else encountered issues with KitKat? Feel free to add to the list above.
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I don't count this as an issue. If it looks just the same, but has the software improvements, then why not? Just saying....
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Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE
Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel
Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2
Rooted, Stock Rom & Kernel
Your on XDA, and your telling them not to flash the new update...? Irony?
Lol yeah not sure if they are trolling or joking
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I came from CM10.2 and glitch kernel to stock Kitkat then kitkat with glitch.
Things I miss from that transition:
- In the close programs area I miss the close all the programs at once ability.
- I miss being able to swipe down and hold on the WiFi toggle to switch networks
- I miss my USB DAC working (this is no big deal to me but it is cool when it works)
I am beginning to come to the understanding though that regardless whether you are on a Custom ROM, Stock 4.3, Stock 4.4, whatever......
it really all looks the same, and acts the same. I think you just pick what you like and go with it and that's what is wonderful about the Android platform......the ability to pick and choose.
If I want my USB DAC back I'm quite literally a ROM flash away from doing it.
For now I'm going with kitkat and glitch kernel which nets me a 3G wireless dongle. If it weren't for the dongle stock 4.4 would be just fine for me.
ikeny said:
Here are some reasons that you should not update your Android OS to 4.4 for the time being (as of Nov 15):
2. Stock email app is not fully functional. Issues are reported with Exchange sync. In my case, I use imap mail. Stock email app even had problem syncing with my imap server. Emails deleted on my computer still showed on my N7.
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For this, IMAP server works that way, you can download mails on multiple devices, you delete mail on one device, it will stay on the other...
teddy0209 said:
For this, IMAP server works that way, you can download mails on multiple devices, you delete mail on one device, it will stay on the other...
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Not true for all of my Android (4.3 or older) and iOS devices. When you move an email to trash box on one device, all other devices sync to remove that email to trash automatically.
ikeny said:
Not true for all of my Android (4.3 or older) and iOS devices. When you move an email to trash box on one device, all other devices sync to remove that email to trash automatically.
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that is if you move a mail (that hasn't been downloaded) to trash on the server itself...
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by the way, what the other guy said above is right...
this is xda, there is no reason not flash kitkat... =)
The_Zodiac said:
Lol yeah not sure if they are trolling or joking
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:laugh: agree no more
truongnguyen1912 said:
For the reason 4, you can download and install Google Home launcher. It work perfectly ☺
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It works for me, as well. Nice new feature, especially once Google Search is updated to v3.1. Thanks for the tip!
I don't see very many reasons NOT to upgrade to 4.4 on a Nexus 7 2013.....I've lost two apps: wifi manager and Xposed framework to activate the "experimental features" of Greenify. Greenify still works, of course, and Xposed will soon be updated.
ConradTDI said:
It works for me, as well. Nice new feature, especially once Google Search is updated to v3.1. Thanks for the tip!
I don't see very many reasons NOT to upgrade to 4.4 on a Nexus 7 2013.....I've lost two apps: wifi manager and Xposed framework to activate the "experimental features" of Greenify. Greenify still works, of course, and Xposed will soon be updated.
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The two things I miss are Xposed (and the Gravity add on). I also didn't want to give up Multiboot. So, I left 4.3 as my "internal" OS and loaded 4.4 as a secondary in Multiboot. I then set 4.4 as the default. Elemental kernel works fine with the WiFi fix posted. Now I need to go back and trim a lot of fat off my 4.3 "base" install.
When I can get Multiboot and Xposed I will probably flash 4.4 as the base OS.
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Your on XDA, and your telling them not to flash the new update...? Irony?
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Hey, I waited.. about 10 seconds!
Flash is dying. I don't think adobe is developing it any longer for android. They only have older version without support on their website.
Good, then we shall fight in the shade!
The biggest 4.4 issue for me is that text reflow is broken in lots of apps including Yahoo Mail and browsers (Next, Opera, etc). (Text reflow reformats the column of text partially visible on the screen to fit the screen. ie. zoom in until it's big enough and the the text is reformatted either automatically or by a double tap.
It's a huge issue for me as I find mobile web sites a poor substitute for their full featured desktop siblings. Without text reflow, I'm stuck scrolling horizontally to read each line.
I don't use flash a lot but find it pretty essential when I need it.
Web browsing also seems significantly slower with multiple browsers than 4.3.1,
I'm restoring my backup and going back to 4.3.1. Kit Kat didn't bring anything I've found significant in my use but has broken stuff that's important to me.
Kitkat doesn't bring anything significant, but brings problems (which will be ironed out over time, but now they are there).
It's definitely best to stay on 4.3 until it really pays to upgrade.
Sometimes the Android community appears to me like a religious cult where people dance around a golden calf and don't want to see reality anymore. "Holy update! Save my soul!"
Anybody else got problems with flash? Tested Dolphin?
TheGoD said:
Anybody else got problems with flash? Tested Dolphin?
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Tested. It doesn't work. There are many apps not working like VLC, MX Player, Titanium ...
I go back to my previous backup
TheGoD said:
Anybody else got problems with flash? Tested Dolphin?
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flash still works..
I don't feel like downgrading since I got sick battery life with 4.4 but what I miss the most is app ops. The best feature from 4.3 and almost no-one is talking about the removal of it.
I'm not going to upgrade my 2012 N7 though, it has great battery life already.
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Hi All,
Now that the KK update is out and installed on all RAZR HDs except for those that are pokey, I thought I'd see what everyone's opinions are.
Try to be a little more informative than "it's good", "I like it", or "it sucks", "I want a different phone". I figured this would be a good place to post up new tricks you've discovered, maybe weren't aware of before actually installing the new OS, and maybe help others discover and maximize the capabilities of the phone now.
DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD RELATED TO "WHEN IS THE NEW ROOT METHOD COMING"!!!! There are enough threads getting spammed with that nonsense.
I'll go first I guess:
- Liking the extra RAM that has been freed up with the update. About 30-40 additional MB, which in my case with everything I am running every little bit helps!
- Liking that I am now able to take advantage of the KK Xposed modules.
- Thankful that @iBolski pointed me to the new way to hack the wireless hotspot.
- I was toying with the Daydream option in settings, but couldn't get it to work correctly I don't think.
- Definitely enjoying having a 2-yr old phone that is software relevant again. Having unlimited data on VeeZeeDub I like being able to put off outright buying a phone again like I did this one.
- Liking the fact that lockscreen widgets can be posted on the lockscreen, and that a simple swype down from the clock (while using pattern lock method) moves the pattern lock to the bottom and allows the ability to view the widgets without unlocking the phone. Also like that camera is one of the widgets - much easier to get to in a pinch!
- Liking the fact that with Gravity Box [KK] I can use the frosted lockscreen image setting. Have been wanting that for a while.
- Also liking that when music is playing on the phone, the lockscreen image is changed to a picture of the album cover art (not sure if this is a mod I set up in XBlast Tools or in Gravity Box [KK] or something that is standard on the KK OS, but liking it regardless)
...more to come I'm sure!
I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!
I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
iBolski said:
I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.
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I'm also using Swiftkey, started before Swype was a feature for the AOSP keyboard (at least I think so, else I didn't know how to enable it while looking for it). I have already even deleted the stock keyboard, lol. Come to think of it I remember when Swiftkey added Swype. Was a test of sorts, then it disappeared for about a week, I was so mad I sent a nastygram to them to which they responded that it'll be coming in an update and that it was just a beta test.
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...
LifeAsADroid said:
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...
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Rather than rehash it all, here is a link to a thread I started over in the Q&A forum about it and @kabaldan provided a newly compiled boot image that fixes it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761162
It seems to affect some, but not all phones, whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
My apologies for making you respond, I should have looked harder. Your topic describing the issue was almost right below this thread. I don't think that's what my issue is.
I've noticed many problems with the stock messaging app and with hangouts as well, so many I deleted them both and switched to Go SMS pro.
Sigh, hearing there is another update from Motorola on the way makes me sad, I've customized the phone so much since the update I don't want to go back to stock and do it all over again.
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xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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The latest motorola phone can do that because they have a dedicated , very low power processor for it , if we did this on our phone , it would ruin the battery life.
the closest you ca, achieve , is with nova launcher, you can program it to respond to "ok google" when you are on the main screen.
xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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Google Now is already on the phone. Now, if you want it to launch from the launcher, then at this point, no. The Google Now Launcher is not available for this phone (yet).
However, as another poster stated, you can get the latest Nova Launcher and it has the ability to respond to "Ok Google" from the desktop.
Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.
Another question for all:
Has anyone tried using the Moto Skip yet after upgrading to 4.4.2? I found the apk online (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-skip-apk-t2416837 check post #4)
It installed just fine and ran when entered from settings --> security, but I haven't actually tested it yet since I don't have any NFC tags on hand. Might see if I can pick up NFC tags to see if it works.
Little by little, changing this phone into a "Moto X Mini" lol. Let's call it Moto X Dragon, it sounds cooler 8) lol
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Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.
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but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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just did it with nova launcher it works.
xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.
billycar11 said:
just did it with nova launcher it works.
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Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.
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you gotta be kidding me!!
seriously? lol i would love to have that.
just waiting the update here in Brazil, and waiting for the phone arrives. (grrr why does it take soo longggg -_- it actually passed only 4 days since i bought it and the max prize is 13/06 but I WANT ITTTTTTTTTTT NOWW)
Motorola Moto HD? hahah
modernmidnight said:
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
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Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
Not_A_Dev said:
Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
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As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
killrhythm09 said:
As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
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Well, I'm sure you have heard what they say about gift horses and their mouths...
modernmidnight said:
I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!
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Google Keyboard has a swype alternative that's free
Please excuse my lateness lol
I think personally, the OS is a lot snappier but there are a lot of bugs that are still present in the final release thought, I haven't had the popping noise sound but I have encountered soft reboots when I boot the phone with headphones in, it does lag a little sometimes but that's due to lack or ram. I love wireless printing, and read receipts. Would love art runtime if more apps were compatible with it. I'm just glad to have it. Having an locked bootloader isn't that great, the first Razr Maxx HD I had was and that was lovely, but I digress. Daydream is kind of useless to me. I am a battery converservationists. The multiple home launcher selector was well worth the wait. I can run Nova Launcher or the Google Now Launcher whenever I want to. Another drawback is that I can't write anything to the SD card unless it's with a system app now. Battery life is decent, I get a full day of heavy usage everyday. Which is the reason I purchased the phone, battery life. After a few days of running KitKat the random battery drain stopped for me.
i'm now on JB rooted, and i've change my font to playful. If i update to kitkat, will i lost my font? coz i realy love the font :crying:
Did anyone get the latest security update yet from AT&T?
Looks like it was security patches, but my Messaging and Gallery apps changed.
I am OK with the gallery app, and the Messaging app is OK with the exception the text is pretty damn small! I know you can pinch to zoom, but I am unable to find anyway to keep the ZOOM setting I selected in the new Messaging app, as soon as I back out and go back to a person I was chatting with, the text is back to being small.
Just confirming I'm not the only one with this issue.
Chris
Oh, believe me, you are not alone. Mine is doing the same thing. It is also showing replies to texts in white text boxes with white type. I had to switch my purchased themes 4 times to find one that didn't do this! I also lost the ability to schedule messages, and lost all of my quick responses! This is VERY annoying.
Krista
Ditto here, white text on white background for incoming texts. Exceptionally annoying.
A few people have complained on the AT&T support forums (https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-Discussion-Support/Text-bubble-issue/m-p/5452599/thread-id/35765), but it seems the forum moderators are going thru and deleting threads and replies. And so far, the only "answer" wasn't an answer at all, just a canned response pointing to a tutorial (that wasn't there last night, btw) on how to change messaging settings.
If anyone has any ideas, please let us know.
Using pulse for messaging. And sungstratum for theming. It's a part of substratum. No root.
xc rider said:
Using pulse for messaging. And sungstratum for theming. It's a part of substratum. No root.
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I don't understand what you mean, please explain.
It's another SMS app, you can download it on the playstore.
Thanks everyone for confirming it wasn't just me. It's a shame because the stock txting app wasn't pretty bad for the past ~2 years....here's hoping AT&T steps up, otherwise I will go third party too...
Pulse is awesome. I have the paid subscription and can access my txts from any device.
First, new "update" fubared text messaging; now, there's something running in the background that's turning it into a hotplate & sucking the battery down in just a couple hours, instead of decent consumption all day long. Even after a reboot & running the "save battery" app in Settings, it's still warm to the touch, & draining the battery too quickly.
Does AT&T have plans to fix this, or is this a push to force an upgrade? (this I put to them on their forum)
SAMSUNG-SM-G891A
Android. 7.0
Patch level January 1, 2018 (so no shenanigans about "security enhancements" in this one, they ain't there)
There were betas for these updates for several months now. There must have been some big changes under the hood and this one came as a 500MB update rather than a 35MB security patch. Probably stuck with any bugs until the next major update which will most likely be Oreo. All of this is just speculation on my part.
I didn't receive any notification on my S7 Active regarding BETAs - how do you sign up for those? I would have gladly given feedback on this Messaging app....
They don't have a beta program open to the public as far as I know. Over on the firmware update thread, user khaliullov posts a link to firmware and uncovered a way to directly download firmware from ATT's servers. That's where I've seen betas for this update for the past few months. You don't want to have those betas installed as they offer no upgrade path, so you would be stuck with the issues that whatever beta you used came with.
Got it - thanks for the info!
Looks like time to investigate rooting the phone...
Just got prompted for another update - let's see what this one does...
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Just got prompted for another update - let's see what this one does...
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Same here, can't really see any difference in anything so far.
No difference here either, unfortunately. I was really hoping the Messages app would be updated. This new one SUCKS.
Is there anyone would could grab the old messaging app, make it a APK and then let us sideload it? I would be VERY interested in this, as would others.... this new Messaging app is junk!
The new messaging app is really weird, but all the features are there.... you hafta hit the + sign & the features come up. To schedule messages and more.
Could be worse, half your account could be stuck in Spanish. It's been well over a year and they still can't do anything about it. Lol.