Moto X Pure or HTC M9 - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know as soon as you read the title, you're probably thinking I'm crazy. Hear me out. I purchased the Moto X Pure 2015 as a 'backup device' because of it being capable of any major carrier in the States and it being nearly stock Android. I come from a long line of HTC phones and miss my M7 dearly.
I purchased the Pure for $520 bucks - customized leather back with 64GB storage. I recently went to Best Buy and picked up two sealed M9's for $199 each off contract on "clearance". Best Buy manager claims they were 'high risk inventory' and needed to be sold to get rid of them since AT&T now has kiosks in most all stores. A steal in my opinion! Was thinking about selling my X Pure for maybe $400??, selling one of the HTC's for $300 and pocketing the other M9. Does anyone have any valuable input on if the software has helped overcome the Qualcomm 810 SoC, or if I should just sell both M9's and keep the X Pure? Specs wise these phones are very close (even with the thermal throttling of the 810). If I S-off and unlock the M9's bootloader I can be on pure stock android 6.0 as well.
I think the biggest thing here for me is the physical size of the Moto X I just can't 'pocket' and I loved the DAC that was in the M9. That DAC with Viper4Android was an unbeatable combo!
For reference, my daily driver is a 128gb S6 unlocked with a Dragonfly v2 USB DAC I use with an OTG cable and my Westone 4R's.

Well hands down the moto x isnthe better fone... Quality or otherwise... But i get what ur saying.... A smart person would sell the moto x bc its not worth the 200 dollars more...i myself could nvr afford the motox x but that to me is best fone on the market bc of build quality and how it feels in the hand... My buddy had a s6 and he didnt like it to i practically begged him to take the moto x style... And he cant believe the difference in 2 android phone!! He loves it and im jealous!!! Also remember m9 has heat issues...

if you want solid build, superb headset support premium looks and fast (its faster then moto x i have both) and it heats on heavy gaming not on regular use..
go for moto x for size, camera batter display and speaker and faster updates go for moto x.

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Moto X (2014) vs Nexus 5

So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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Why would you get a nexus 5 when the 6 is available? no matter what a phone is going to break if you don't take care of it. you don't need a screen protector the the moto x. the glass is nearly impossible to scratch since it's gorilla glass 3. take care of your phone and you won't have to worry about it breaking. other than that, there are over a thousand spec comparisons between the two phones on the web.
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See I'm not all about specs and hardware, more about personal user experience with the device. Accidents happen, I took really good care of my Nexus 5 but it fell out of my hands because of someone else mucking about around me.
The Nexus 6 is way too big for me. I loved using my Nexus 5 and I would happily buy it again but the Moto X looks very appealing. I'm all about stock android so.
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
When I had my 2013 moto x, I decided to try the Nexus 5. Bought it, it arrived, toyed with it for 5 mins, then promptly put it back in the box to sell it to a friend. I thought the 2013 X was better than the N5 off usability features alone. The 2014 X completely dominates the N5.
Better ergonomics
WAYYYYYY better speakers
Better reception
Customizable
Moto Display+Voice
The only thing the N5 has over the X is the well-calibrated LCD screen.
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This guy really nailed it for the main part. QI charging is deal breaker for some but I don't care. I don't mind plugging it in since I can use it while plugged in but if it has to sit in charger, I can't really use it comfortably. I've had multiple N5s since I enjoy stock Android but I keep going back to Motorola since they've added some very nice features to just bring that little extra that you flashed roms for.
Build quality, radio, reception, screen (IMHO), feel in hand, camera (slightly, not software) and loud speaker kill N5 any day. Moto X 2014 is not a perfect phone but LG build quality is the worst. Loud speaker and radio/reception on N5 is a joke IMHO.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Totally forgot to mention the loud speaker... It's amazing how loud it really is. I also owned an M8 (hated sense) and Moto isn't "better" but it is really really close. Actually wakes me up when I need it in the morning.
Also, I have noticed that I am on LTE a lot more often on the Moto than I was with the N5.
I use the hand waving thing a lot more often than I thought I would as well.
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Yeah, N5 would have such a hard time keeping up with LTE. I was mostly on HSPA+ because radio pretty much sucked.
I am coming from M8 as well and X may not have the same quality and deepness, but it's very very loud and surprises you at times for being just one speaker. Equalizer is pretty good by default on X as well.
I love the texting from Chrome browser and the X talking to me while driving. Oh and sleep mode saves your screen some energy by not turning it on at all if put screen down or in night mode. Software features are actually useful unlike gimmicks IMHO.
Thedonk13 said:
I currently own both, and now that I've gotten a Moto X 2014, i won't be going back.
The build quality alone makes it a better option. It FEELS so good in the hand, and that weight...UGH!! so nice.....
The Nexus 5 has only 1 leg up on the moto x, and thats qi charging. BUT, i'm thinking of getting a bluboon *spelling* receiver and trying that out...we will see.....
the moto takes better pics imho and has slomo recording!!
go with the X, you won't regret it....the battery life is the same and with 5.0 we will get project volt and won't need bigger batteries anyway....
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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I own both, and while they are both amazing phones, the Moto X is a pretty massive upgrade from the N5. Not necessarily in terms of speed (though the X is faster), just in terms of overall experience. I feel like the N5 is just a no-frills reference device (which technically it is, I guess) but the Moto X is the ultimate luxury smartphone. I have owned upwards of 20 different smartphones since 2009 including most of the major flagships, and never in my life have I held one this high quality before. The Moto X is the complete package, and I firmly believe it is the best smartphone ever made. The ONLY thing I wish it had was Qi charging but considering everything else the X has to offer, it's a minor compromise. You really can't go wrong with either phone, but my recommendation is the Moto X, without hesitation. Get the Pure edition if you can.
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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Pure Edition? I'm assuming that's one directly from Motorola? (I'm the UK by the way! I know about American companies like Verizon taking ages to push updates and ugly branding etc)
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The Pure edition gives us an unlockable bootloader, because the AT&T and Verizon models are locked down. I'm not sure how it works across the pond though, as long as you can unlock your bootloader than you're golden.
Both are amazing, in my opinion the Moto X is the Nexus 5 2.0
Better specs all around (albeit nothing to write home about it), better battery life and touchless control its superb
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You've sold me with that. I guess I will just have to deal with no tempered glass etc. I mean I keep good care of my phones but I don't want to run the risk of accidental dropping like my Nexus 5, guess I'm going to have to. I'll just buy a phone sock or something :laugh:
Only thing I'll miss from the Nexus 5 is the notification light (Moto Display is still cool but something about that LED gives it the edge) and Paranoid Android ROM but Android L seems perfect as it is right now. Also I have fairly small hands and the Nexus 5 was the PERFECT size. 2014 X isn't that much larger so it should be all fine! Many thanks!
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
Exactly my debate a month ago. I've got a thread on here someplace about it. It came down to price vs quality and customization. I got the .edu discount (alumni account), so the difference was about $125 on a 32 GB. At that, the X with a wood back was worth it to me. If $ are tight, I think the Nexus 5 is the best option. If $ are tighter than that, then the Moto G (we have a couple of those in our household as well).
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I haven't ONCE missed root or any ROM since i got the Moto X. i was always flashing on my N5 to get the features that come with this phone out of the box.
We mentioned build quality, i honestly believe my Moto X is of better feel than the M8. The M8 always felt slippery and cold, this phone just feels good.
I also splurged and got the moto care for 80 more bucks. 3 replacement phones over the next 2 years for anything i warrant. I will take full advantage of that service i promise you.
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I totally agree that the X feels nicer than the M8. I honestly wasn't all that impressed with the M8. It kinda gives off a "hey look at me, I'm metal" vibe without actually being all that nice. Like it's made out of aluminum just for the sake of being made out of aluminum, for bragging rights, if that makes sense. There just isn't anything special about it... and those godawful bezels, ugh. The Moto X on the other hand is just... elegant. It's very mature, and no part of its design is superfluous. I keep saying it and I'll keep on saying it- the Moto X is the nicest smartphone ever made.
On a side note, my friend just got the One E8 which is essentially just a polycarbonate version of the M8 and I like it a heckuva lot more than the M8. I think it looks nicer and feels nicer than its aluminum brother.
The Moto X is like a Nexus 5.5. Physically a big step up from the Nexus 5, feels premium. If the Nexus 6 size puts you off a great successor. Outside of a Nexus there is no other manufacturer that will truly give you a stock feeling. Is it worth the price to upgrade? Not for everyone, but I wouldn't have gone to any other handset.
The development on this phone may not kick off massively, which would be a shame, but I wouldn't force yourself to adapt to the Nexus 6 just because its a new Nexus device. I'd either stay on the Nexus 5 or choose a Moto X.
If big devices don't bother you though its Nexus 6 > everything else.
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
mario24601 said:
I moved from the even older nexus 4, huge jump for me but only in day two of using it and I'm really on the fence if this is right phone for me. But it is a nice stock feeling phone.
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I'm on Nexus 4 and debating Moto X vs Nexus 5 (N6 size doesn't work for me).
I was leaning towards Moto X until I read your comment.
Why are you on the fence? What's not right about Moto X?
RawrLikeADino said:
So I have the choice of either getting a Nexus 5 or a Moto X (2014) but on paper these two phones are pretty good, not much between them. I really don't know which to get. So for those of you who have used both or at least one of these devices, what are you opinions on them and which do you prefer? Hopefully this will help others too!
I'm mainly looking at these categories:
- General Usage
- Durability
- Accessories (I've noticed currently there's not that many screen protectors for the Moto X plus there being issues with tempered glass)
I original had the Nexus 5 but it broke. Really badly. The repearability of the Nexus 5 is not good and now my phone just no longer works. Should I stick to the same or try something new?
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I had the nexus 5 and hated it. Had great specs but the cheapest design and actually stuttered a little bit with animations.. least favorite phone so far besides the s4. I'd go nexus 6 if the screen isn't to big for you[emoji12]

Moto X Pure or AT&T LG G4

I'm debating on what phone to go with, AT&T LG G4 or Moto X pure. I would like to have root and a custom rom along with keeping my mini sd card.
What are the pros and cons with the Moto Pure?
Which one would you choose and why?
For me the only thing I like the G4 is the Camera, the rest is nahh... I have Moto X Pure now and I'm loving it. Btw, not to mention G4s very ugly UI (my opinion).
I would suggest to do a test drive on the phone, if you feel you like it and provide almost all your needs on a daily basis (SMS, calls, skype, camera & etc), you go to which one fits.
I would personally pick the Moto X pure (partly because its what i own).
Moto X pure Pros:
Unlocked- your not stuck with AT&T if you get the pure because it also works on just about all US carriers.
Almost Pure Android- Aside from the couple of additions from Motorola this phone as close to a nexus without it being one.
Big 5.7in QHD Display- it has a very nice 2560x1440( 4x 720p HD) display crammed into 5.7in so its plenty sharp.
MicroSD Card slot- Supports up to 128gb MicroSD cards (official max MicroSD card capacity)
Stereo Front facing speakers- true stereo speakers that face you and get plenty loud.
Customization- Moto maker, colors, woods, leathers, and bamboo (EG. grass not wood) plus accents choices and more. lets you finally get a phone that's a color you want...Mostly.
CHEAP, sort of- At $399 for a base model 16gb, its a great value! $449 for the 32gb and $499 for the 64gb versions. Add $25 if you want a wood (or bamboo) or leather back. Rear engravings don't cost extra.
TURBO CHARGER- comes with a 25w Motorola Turbo charger that can bring your phone from dead to full in about an hour and 15 mins. great when you need a quick top off while you change for a night out after work!
Moto X Pure Cons:
Its BIG- at 5.7in, even with the very slim bezels its still a big phone, not easy to use one handed if you have small hands.
Battery life- the big 3000mah battery is offset with that big QHD display so its not going to be great, just average.
Almost pure Android- you wont be getting any of the neat features that LG bakes into there version of android like mini apps, dual apps, the're AMAZING camera app.
LG G4 Pros:
5.5in QHD Display- Not as big as the moto X pure but still a great, sharp display but a bit easier to manage than the bigger Moto X Pure.
Swappable battery- battery go dead while out and about? just pop in a fresh 3000mah power cell from the bag and your back in business!
LG tweaks- Dual apps, IR blaster, great camera software customizble quick settings. all good features Stock android doesn't have...yet.
MicroSD card support- I don't think I need to explain this one again.
LG G4 Cons:
Locked phone- Cant easily leave AT&T and take the phone with you. Might be able to use on T-Mobile but you out of luck if you want to move to sprint or Verizon.
LG tweaks- LG has useful additions but that also means it could take longer to get updates to newer versions of android because they have to modify android just to put those cool tweaks in there.
Single rear speaker- It might get loud but its still just one and its still facing away from you.
Price?- The 32gb LG G4 with plastic back is $135 more than the 32gb Moto X pure plastic(rubber?). if you go with leather on the LG G4 its $150 more than a 32gb Moto X Pure with leather (or wood/bamboo)
Those are all of the main pros and cons to each phone that I can think off right now. I used to have the LG G3 before and my buddy let me play with his LG G4 and its not all that different from the G3 before it so thats where some of my information is based off of for the LG G4.
Prices showen are from Motorolas website and AT&T website for LG G4 prices.
Hope this helps.
If you're looking for develoment, go with the MXP. The G4 has little to no development. There are rumors that a bootloader unlock is coming, but it's been so long now, that I think potential developers have moved on.
On my G4 I loved the screen and camera. That's it, the moto x is better in every way besides camera and screen. I really miss the deep blacks on the G4. The cameras on the moto x are pretty close so I don't miss the camera much. Just the G4 is better at low light but it's not a big deal. The moto x is faster, cleaner, smoother, faster updates, better build quality, bigger screen, front facing speakers
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I would personally pick the Moto X pure (partly because its what i own).
Moto X pure Pros:
Unlocked- your not stuck with AT&T if you get the pure because it also works on just about all US carriers.
Almost Pure Android- Aside from the couple of additions from Motorola this phone as close to a nexus without it being one.
Big 5.7in QHD Display- it has a very nice 2560x1440( 4x 720p HD) display crammed into 5.7in so its plenty sharp.
MicroSD Card slot- Supports up to 128gb MicroSD cards (official max MicroSD card capacity)
Stereo Front facing speakers- true stereo speakers that face you and get plenty loud.
Customization- Moto maker, colors, woods, leathers, and bamboo (EG. grass not wood) plus accents choices and more. lets you finally get a phone that's a color you want...Mostly.
CHEAP, sort of- At $399 for a base model 16gb, its a great value! $449 for the 32gb and $499 for the 64gb versions. Add $25 if you want a wood (or bamboo) or leather back. Rear engravings don't cost extra.
TURBO CHARGER- comes with a 25w Motorola Turbo charger that can bring your phone from dead to full in about an hour and 15 mins. great when you need a quick top off while you change for a night out after work!
Moto X Pure Cons:
Its BIG- at 5.7in, even with the very slim bezels its still a big phone, not easy to use one handed if you have small hands.
Battery life- the big 3000mah battery is offset with that big QHD display so its not going to be great, just average.
Almost pure Android- you wont be getting any of the neat features that LG bakes into there version of android like mini apps, dual apps, the're AMAZING camera app.
LG G4 Pros:
5.5in QHD Display- Not as big as the moto X pure but still a great, sharp display but a bit easier to manage than the bigger Moto X Pure.
Swappable battery- battery go dead while out and about? just pop in a fresh 3000mah power cell from the bag and your back in business!
LG tweaks- Dual apps, IR blaster, great camera software customizble quick settings. all good features Stock android doesn't have...yet.
MicroSD card support- I don't think I need to explain this one again.
LG G4 Cons:
Locked phone- Cant easily leave AT&T and take the phone with you. Might be able to use on T-Mobile but you out of luck if you want to move to sprint or Verizon.
LG tweaks- LG has useful additions but that also means it could take longer to get updates to newer versions of android because they have to modify android just to put those cool tweaks in there.
Single rear speaker- It might get loud but its still just one and its still facing away from you.
Price?- The 32gb LG G4 with plastic back is $135 more than the 32gb Moto X pure plastic(rubber?). if you go with leather on the LG G4 its $150 more than a 32gb Moto X Pure with leather (or wood/bamboo)
Those are all of the main pros and cons to each phone that I can think off right now. I used to have the LG G3 before and my buddy let me play with his LG G4 and its not all that different from the G3 before it so thats where some of my information is based off of for the LG G4.
Prices showen are from Motorolas website and AT&T website for LG G4 prices.
Hope this helps.
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The only pros for g4 are removable battery (...but my MXP gets better battery life and turbocharging speed makes up for lack of removable battery) and lowlight/manual camera. There is pretty much no other area that the G4 outshines the MXP.
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The only pros for g4 are removable battery (...but my MXP gets better battery life and turbocharging speed makes up for lack of removable battery) and lowlight/manual camera. There is pretty much no other area that the G4 outshines the MXP.
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I have to disagree, as I stated above the screen out shines the MXP. Darker and vivid almost like a IPS LCD panel and AMOLED panel had a baby. MXP might be a tad brighter. But the software is far better on the MXP
Having had both (although I had the T-Mobile G4) I'd have to say the get the X. Both are great, but for me I prefer stock Android. If you do opt for the G4 I'd recommend that you try and score the international version ... Having gone from the Nexus 6 to the G4 and now to the MXPE I am done with carrier devices! So much bloat and unnecessary interference ...
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Having had both (although I had the T-Mobile G4) I'd have to say the get the X. Both are great, but for me I prefer stock Android. If you do opt for the G4 I'd recommend that you try and score the international version ... Having gone from the Nexus 6 to the G4 and now to the MXPE I am done with carrier devices! So much bloat and unnecessary interference ...
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couldn't agree more, in fact in some places the unlocked version is cheaper than the AT&T version (G4) and they have the same LTE bands, for example when I owned the G4 it had the touch issues, the international one got an update that fixed it, it took months for the AT&T version to get it (literately just a couple days ago). Don't do that to yourself. Never again AT&T, never again
Not to mention locked bootloader....

Which is a better smartphone OP2 or Moto X Style?

Hey friends I would like to know which smartphone is better compared to battery life, camera, updates and over all performance and why?,
If you plan on unlocking the bootloader, but want to keep the factory warranty get the OPT. If you don't care about the warranty or you don't plan on unlocking the bootloader, then get the Moto X Style. I personally have the OPT, but that was just because of my great experience with the OPO. I was rather disappointed though. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Style.
I've been having some random freezing on my OPT. Mainly when pulling down the notification drawer. Pretty annoying to me, especially when my OPO still runs like a dream! OxygenOS isn't mature enough to be a widely used daily driver yet IMO.
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If you plan on unlocking the bootloader, but want to keep the factory warranty get the OPT. If you don't care about the warranty or you don't plan on unlocking the bootloader, then get the Moto X Style. I personally have the OPT, but that was just because of my great experience with the OPO. I was rather disappointed though. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Style.
I've been having some random freezing on my OPT. Mainly when pulling down the notification drawer. Pretty annoying to me, especially when my OPO still runs like a dream! OxygenOS isn't mature enough to be a widely used daily driver yet IMO.
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Okay.. Well lemme ask you something. If we unlock the bootloader in Moto X and then if we lock it back, don't you think we can get the warranty...? Something like we usually do in old days.
sam razzy said:
Okay.. Well lemme ask you something. If we unlock the bootloader in Moto X and then if we lock it back, don't you think we can get the warranty...? Something like we usually do in old days.
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I wouldn't count on that solution. You might could consider getting something like a 3rd party accidental warranty. That should keep it covered even if you unlock the bootloader.
Considering the camera which one would be better?
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Considering the camera which one would be better?
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They're both very good. Pretty much interchangeable. After owning the op2 for about 5 months now I can't express enough how terribly I want a moto x. I've had quite a few problems with this phone, if you don't plan on rooting than the moto x is the easy winner
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They're both very good. Pretty much interchangeable. After owning the op2 for about 5 months now I can't express enough how terribly I want a moto x. I've had quite a few problems with this phone, if you don't plan on rooting than the moto x is the easy winner
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I got one more phone which I really looking forward - LG G4
Had the Moto X Style before and like the OPT more.
I have OPT. I rooted it, installed a bunch of xposed modules and whatnot. Never had any significant problems with it. Performance (antutu score is way better than Moto X) and battery life are great (GSam reports 5:45 SOT). Also consider the fact that a 64GB Moto X costs at least $100 more than OPT. There only two factors where Moto X excels: quick charging and screen resolution.
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I have OPT. I rooted it, installed a bunch of xposed modules and whatnot. Never had any significant problems with it. Performance (antutu score is way better than Moto X) and battery life are great (GSam reports 5:45 SOT). Also consider the fact that a 64GB Moto X costs at least $100 more than OPT. There only two factors where Moto X excels: quick charging and screen resolution.
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Screen resolution is debatable, less battery, less performance and working on adreno 418... That's a choice, not a pro, personally i love that Oneplus 2 has a FullHD display and not a QHD, i could bought LG G4, Moto x pure, or whatever 500uds or less. I decided Oneplus 2 and im very happy with my decisión. Thanks god i didnt belive the overheating rumors, they are exagerated, my nexus 5 got hotter.
sam razzy said:
I got one more phone which I really looking forward - LG G4
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I was between the same devices. My decisión was LG G4 or Oneplus 2. Moto X it was my third choice.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr4 vs lpddr3, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint scanner.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing.
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never use it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.
Hope you can decide for the best, come with us :fingers-crossed:
About heat: The Moto X felt a lot warmer than my OPT
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About heat: The Moto X felt a lot warmer than my OPT
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I heard a lot about it
Me too, I've been wavering between OP2 and X Style for 1 month, view all youtube videos about those phones, borrow my friends'
Then OP2 was my final decision, and I don't regret about it
There's no better phones over others, just this phone is suitable for you than the others
In details:
OP2 vs X Style
Screen: FullHD 5.5" is enough
RAM: 4GB vs 3GB
CPU: 810 v2.1 vs 808
Storage: 64GB is enough for me, but X Style has an expandable slot
VGA: Adreno 430 vs Adreno 418
Sensors: Fingerprint scanner, doubletap2wake, Gyroscope.. I don't need Moto Voice or Moto Ambient Display
Battery: 3300 mAh vs 3000 mAh
This is just my humble opinions about OP2's strength, of course there're lots of pros of X Style that maybe suitable for you, for example NFC, quick charging, slightly better camera, durable brand name Motorola,...
I'm a fanboy of Motorola, but sorry Moto, my decision this time is OP2 =)
And the decision was...?
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LG G4
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Im in love with the UI and Camera. I used Nexus phones and OPO before. Total new experience with this..
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Need some advice Moto X pure or 6p

Well it looks like my Note 7 is heading back for a second time. With that being said. I don't want to sink another 800 on a phone while I wait for what ever version of the note comes out next. I think I'm going to either pick up NEW 64 gig pure with tax comes out to 370.00 Or some lightly used to new nexus 6p's around 400-450. So I understand the hardware differences etc. I have seen some people complaining about the lack of updates for the X. I'll be passing this phone down to one of kids, so I have some questions is the bootloader unlocked on these so we can tinker and get the latest updates before waiting for MOTO to release them. Also does anybody have any opinions on the 2 devices preferable if you have some time behind both. Thanks for the advice.
RS
6p guarantee to get next Andy build next year with monthly security update ,moto x I'm pretty sure nougat is the last major update for us and whatever security update they leave us stranded with ..don't get me wrong I like my moto x but when i made the choice price range did play an important factor .heck even the 5x sounds good .I would consider 6p to 5x then moto x pure
I think that the Nexus 6P is a better device.... But SLIGHTLY. I've owned both phones several times over the past year, and my honest opinion is that the Moto has more functionality than the stock 6P with similar display and speakers. The camera is also great! And by the way the battery was better on the Moto than the 6P for me. There were times that the 6P also felt too big for a 5.7 device, the Moto although same screen size is smaller overall. I also care for the expandable memory, either way you can't go wrong. I'm commenting on here because i was just on the same exact boat. I bought mine (Moto X) from Swappa for $220 with 3 cases and original box, the 6P I could've gotten for $320 but i just don't want to carry around a huge device anymore. I'm giving my Note 5 to my wife and rolling with the Moto X until the Pixel XL drops in price (6 more months). Until then I'm OK with the same specs and features as the 6P but at a smaller form and price. Good luck.
i almost bought a 6p today untill i feel screen is kinda pinkish.
As a Moto X Pure owner, I honestly recommend you to buy a Nexus device. Lenovo is leaving behind the older Moto devices, we don't have the support we used to have under Google ownership... Also, while there are very good developers for this device, ROMs are far away of the ones for Nexus 6P (remember that that's a developers targeted device). Greetings!
moto doesn't bend
Owned both devices for a while, each being a daily driver at the time. Development is great for both, and I do miss the QC 2 on the Moto, but coming from an S5 (and a razr maxx before that), I'm totally a fan of the OLED screen which pulls me hard to the 6p. Performance increase of the 810 vs 808 is noticeable, but neither is a slouch and both handled my heavy load without much protest. If you have any more detailed questions about either, PM me.
Cheers.

If there's no Moto X 2016, what's your next phone?

I've been hoping for an announcement regarding the Moto X 2016. I currently have the Moto X 2015 and love the phone. I don't want the Moto Z due to the higher price and lack of front facing speakers. If there's no Moto X 2016/2017 what will you get?
I'm currently looking at the ZTE Axon 7. It has everything I was hoping for in this year's Moto X except Moto's awesome customization features to stock Android. It also has an awesome QHD AMOLED display, dual front facing speakers, fingerprint scanner on back, all aluminum build, support for microSD, support for dual SIM cards, and runs the same processor as the Galaxy S7 all at a $399 price tag. Reviews are amazing aside from the camera and it seems to be similar to the camera on my Moto X Pure. I can live with that.
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TBH, this will likely be my last Moto phone... Moto is not Motorola and the respect for customers and devices that Motorola had is gone under Lenovo, whether there is a Moto X 2016/2017 model or not, I won't be getting one.
The Axon 7 looks solid, but at this time I will probably stick with my MXPE, if I had to replace it today it would be a solid contender, along side the OnePlus 3, or the new LeEco devices announced today look interesting, or I would probably grab a sub-$200 budget or used device temporarily.
I see the Android market changing, with LeEco and Xiaomi bringing phones to the US market (or soon to be), other Chinese manufacturers will likely follow suit, which could bring about a revolution in the mid-range price and device category.
We had OG Droid Turbos. Decided that I wasn't wanting to deal with Lenovo anymore so we jumped over to the Note 7, and we all know how that went. So I was able to pick up MXPs for $250 each to tide us over till next year. As soon as the Note 8 or whatever the replacement for it is released, we are gone from Moto again.
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If I'm honest I have no idea. Decided for now to stick with X Style. I bought a OnePlus 3 the other week from a phone store but by the time it came to picking it up I'd decided it wasn't enough of an upgrade. Trying one in the shop it didn't feel all that faster than the Style though sure the benchmarks would say otherwise. No stereo speakers and although amoled, wasn't as bright. Not to mention Moto display, double twist for camera and double chop for torch.
I'll consider an X Style/Pure 2016/17 if there is even one. True, Lenovo have gone downhill as far as updates are concerned. It's to be seen how/if an upgrade to android 7 goes.
So I still like my X Style. If it fell under a bus tomorrow then maybe an OP3. More probable I'd get another X Style! I've looked Moto Z and not keen. Other than that I've considered a Samsung GS7 and even the Note 7. Axon 7 could be a contender but unavailable in the UK currently.
My Moto X Style is still stock and not had the urge to root or load a custom room. Works day in day out. Battery lasts most days but turbo charge it either by mains or vehicle soon tops it up. I have a tempered Glass screen protector but don't bother with a case and never takes any harm. I work outdoors in a rough manual environment. I still think as phones go it's underrated.
No more Moto for me. As a T-Mobile customer with the XT1575, and having the VoLTE choppy audio almost this entire year, and Moto not providing a fix but almost promising the fix will be in N if it ever gets released, I don't have any reason to give them any more of my money.
My wife's Honor 5x has been solid on CM13 and I am eyeing a pair of Honor 8 phones @ Best Buy for $400 each. I may wait for a price drop and CM14 as EMUI is a bit irritating at times.
Now that Lenovo seems to be killing the Moto brand, I hate Samsung software, LG has some hardware solder issues, I am beginning to like the one plus
A lot of folks are going with the Google Pixel XL phones, but I cannot stomach that ridiculous $800 price. About the only phone I would have purchased for near that price would have been the Note 7 had it not 'gone up in flames'. Thankfully I still have my MXPE trucking on, so I'll wait till next fall and decide then with whatever is available at a decent price. Maybe by then the Pixel XL's will come down in price from the stratosphere.
I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
I like this phone, but I don't like the direction moto is trending. Nexus is dead.
OnePlus is looking like the best choice remaining for a modder/enthusiast.
dkeepitabuck said:
I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
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Gets good enough reviews.
I said earlier that the Axon 7 wasn't available in the UK but I'm wrong as amazon have them. Price seems to have gone up to £482. It's got too expensive so off my list now. I'd pay a little more and buy a Moto z.
If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
warvelous said:
The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
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My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Mysterious-Motorola-device-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
maidguitar said:
My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Myst...-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
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Saw that but I'm not convinced at all. It looks exactly like the Moto X Style/Pure except the bezels look a little more narrow. The picture is blurred except for the viewable screen. Even the most novice of Photoshop users could recreate this. For that matter, even the most basic photo editing software could do a better job than what is seen.
I plan on sticking with my Moto X Pure for a while. It performs very well in my opinion on the stock firmware, I've tried several ROMs and IMO it is hard to beat Moto's stock Android. The Snapdragon 808 is plenty powerful for day to day usage. I do a bit of 3D gaming as well, and with Nougat comes Vulkan, which is becoming more common, so that should help satisfy my need for graphics performance a while longer.
I went with the Axon 7. The hardware is essentially an updated Moto X Pure. The software is just as buggy but it looks like ZTE is so far responsive to making improvements.
TBH, I don't really see the need to upgrade my phone anymore.
I think specwise the number can keep getting bigger and bigger but for me, the specs that a phone truly need had peaked already.
I was really interested in the Moto Z and the Hasselblad camera attachment but I can't take the price at the moment. I received the MXPE for free so I can't complain too much about it. I am considering rooting because I want gravity box to change the navigation buttons and the dpi but I won't be doing much more than that.
Maybe this time next year when the new Pixel is on the way I'll get one of those or the Moto Z
it's hard decision since there is no true moto x alternative right now ;\ decent specs with great price and stock up to date android, since google killed nexus there is no other phone like that. Hopefully I don't have to make this decison yet because I've bought this phone few months before so I'll keep it for next few years.
the xiami mi mix looks very nice, with nova launcher - im really thinking of getting it, but will hold on until reviews come out

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