Viper4android, Bluetooth headset, and MM 6.0.1. What's the deal? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anybody else heard a degradation in sound quality from V4A with 6.0.1 and Bluetooth headsets ? I have a feeling it has something to do with the system and Bluetooth volume linking after the update... Highs aren't as crisp anymore, bass is muddied and hollow. Am I crazy or are you guys/gals hearing it too?

Same issue here, most noticeable when using convolver. Between that and the intermittent LTE issue, I decided to rollback to 6.0.

donroja said:
Has anybody else heard a degradation in sound quality from V4A with 6.0.1 and Bluetooth headsets ? I have a feeling it has something to do with the system and Bluetooth volume linking after the update... Highs aren't as crisp anymore, bass is muddied and hollow. Am I crazy or are you guys/gals hearing it too?
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My quality hasn't gone down, but Bluetooth audio is super, super loud! In my car I used to have my phone volume maxed and my car volume at 16 of 30...now I need it at 2. I know you don't know my car audio, but 2 is a little absurd.
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[mod idea] Stereo sound on the Xperia Z1, like the Z2!

I just had an epiphany.
The Sony Xperia Z1 does not just have one speaker. It's got one on the bottom, but one on the top as well used for calling!
Now my question is, could someone with more knowledge of software modding make the earphone speaker produce the left channel of stereo audio and the bottom speaker the right channel? This must be possible.
I came to this realisation after having made a call and opening an audio producing app which surprisingly used the earphone speaker for sound (yep KitKat still has this bug). At max volume, the audio was still pretty audible, though not loud at all, but useable in quiet areas.
So please tell me if I struck gold here with this idea, or is impossible for some odd reason?
+1 That's a great idea man, hope the dev's see this and work on this.
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+1 That's a great idea man, hope the dev's see this and work on this.
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Thanks, I just had the issue again and used it to my advantage. And actually, at the highest volume which is relatively low compared to the regular speaker, music sounds much fainter than the bottom one. I'd love to see a developer try this, but it's definitely not going to be as good as the Xperia Z2. There would have to be a kind of equalizer for the upper speaker alone, to set it to ones liking, together with a toggle in the settings menu to revert back to mono audio.
It would be possible yes but it 1)could damage incall speaker having it louder then it is standard2) wouldnt make much difference unless the speaker could produce clearer bass and therefor removing tinny audio
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AndroidDan said:
It would be possible yes but it 1)could damage incall speaker having it louder then it is standard2) wouldnt make much difference unless the speaker could produce clearer bass and therefor removing tinny audio
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1) I often call with the volume at max. This is still audible from an arm's length distance, as long as surroundings are relatively quiet. Aren't 'loud'speakers supposed to be loud?
2) If a toggle could be modded in the settings menu, I wouldn't actually mind the odd quality as long as it's stereo. I'm not expecting any superb bass: even sound similar to my old Nintendo DS Lite is good enough for me. I haven't been able to test the earpiece speaker too extensively yet, but I don't believe the quality is all that poor either, as its quality determines the call quality of the device which is expected to be good on a flagship phone nowadays.
Actually playing radio for the first time on the z1 today, the speaker was playing at stereo mode and it was amazing just like my old HTC one.
When I went back to walkman, it went to mono and blank audio without base or nttn.
If there's a reason why radio plays on stereo mode with the nice base and all, there should be a way to make that stereo work system wide.
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Actually playing radio for the first time on the z1 today, the speaker was playing at stereo mode and it was amazing just like my old HTC one.
When I went back to walkman, it went to mono and blank audio without base or nttn.
If there's a reason why radio plays on stereo mode with the nice base and all, there should be a way to make that stereo work system wide.
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Wait what?
This stereo mode you're talking about... was it truly that one speaker output the left channel and the other the right? At equal volume? And did it actually sound good? I haven't heard both speakers produce audio at the same time yet. Now I'm interested!
Hermantje said:
Wait what?
This stereo mode you're talking about... was it truly that one speaker output the left channel and the other the right? At equal volume? And did it actually sound good? I haven't heard both speakers produce audio at the same time yet. Now I'm interested!
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I think the FM radio made use of the second speaker to produce the stereo sound. You try it as well. You will feel the difference of sound output of FM and sound output of walkman or any other audio source of the phone.
It sounded so good that I've been jamming to FM radio all day.
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I was thinking about that too. Lets say if you turn up volume to 80% than only bottom speaker overtakes all because of overloading, but till 80% both speakers are working at the same time... Or at least until the sound is same on both speakers
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This would be terrible. The speaker on the top is not meant for playing loud sounds whilst the other one is. That would not balance the sound output AFAIK just having 2 different types of speaker is worse already what more this? But still yeah maybe possible.
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I think the FM radio made use of the second speaker to produce the stereo sound. You try it as well. You will feel the difference of sound output of FM and sound output of walkman or any other audio source of the phone.
It sounded so good that I've been jamming to FM radio all day.
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I tried it yesterday, but to no avail. The stock FM Radio app (you must mean) only shows "stereo" in the top right corner but when set to speakers, the sound was really just mono. When I covered up the bottom speaker, all sound was gone. Are you very sure you had the upper speaker able to produce at the same volume as well? And can you reproduce it?
I noticed an audio bug when I called just before, but I don't call very often and now I can't even reproduce the original bug.
Great news, everyone!
STEREO SOUND IS NOW POSSIBLE ON THE XPERIA Z1!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/themes-apps/true-real-stereo-sound-earpiece-t2822691
Follow this link and install the .zip file on your rooted Sony Xperia Z1. It truly works, I'm amazed!
(If only they could make a toggle app and adjustable volume levels per channel, that'd be great)

[Q] Bad bluetooth audio quality

Hey guys. I've been using a N910U for the last month and I love it. The only problem I've had with it is that the bluetooth audio quality for music streaming is really bad, I've used Beats Powerbeats2, Jaybird Bluebuds and my car's stereo and they all sound terrible, high notes are distorted and the overall audio quality is bad. I used to have an HTC One M8 GPe and an iPhone that sounded amazing. I've been reading that increasing the bitpool could work but haven't found anything for the Note 4. Does anyone have a way to fix this?
Thanks!!
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rayzan said:
Hey guys. I've been using a N910U for the last month and I love it. The only problem I've had with it is that the bluetooth audio quality for music streaming is really bad, I've used Beats Powerbeats2, Jaybird Bluebuds and my car's stereo and they all sound terrible, high notes are distorted and the overall audio quality is bad. I used to have an HTC One M8 GPe and an iPhone that sounded amazing. I've been reading that increasing the bitpool could work but haven't found anything for the Note 4. Does anyone have a way to fix this?
Thanks!!
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Try using Viper4Android to configure the Bluetooth audio settings.

Rate audio quality of ZF2!

So which earphones / cans do you use to listen to music.
On a scale of 1-5, 5 being the best, how would you rate the audio quality?
Have you used ASUS earphones/headphones with ZF2?
Discuss!
I used NT100 in-ear (I buy the 550ML, lowest spec, so no quick-charger and earphone included)
Playing music with PowerAMP, customize EQ, Limiting activated. At highest volume, I didn't hear any clipping like my old phone. I usually use it at 50-60% volume.
Really, I have to say that I could not diffrentiate between phones audio output once Viper4Android is installed with same settings. No earphones with my ZE551 4Gb ... I think US version gets that removed.
p.s: Using Yamaha EPH-50 Gold earbuds.
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Really, I have to say that I could not diffrentiate between phones audio output once Viper4Android is installed with same settings. No earphones with my ZE551 4Gb ... I think US version gets that removed.
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No earphones with my 551ML either. Not that i would ever use them lol. I use a pair of Sony MDRs and it sounds alright, without Viper installed.
1 mine is awful
Using Sony headset, great along with viper4android as default music fx..
I am using monster beats + EXTREMEMusic + stock music app. Result is cool ?
I use Helium earphones and Google Play music app on my Zenfone 2 4go/64go model and it is awesome.
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1 mine is awful
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Try Viper4Android?
The speaker on the Zenfone is pathetic. The tiny single speaker on my old phone (iPhone 5) is both louder and clearer. I got the ASUS headphones with my 550, but they are awful (I hate all inner-ear headphones anyway, but these sound very muddy and over-bassy and they keep popping out of my ears). Get much better sound through my old iPhone buds, which I always thought sounded good despite getting a lot of criticism. Max volume of the phone seems a little low to me, and reduces still further if you turn off the ASUS AudioWizard. I would like to try the phone with viper4android and some better headphones.
+1 ASUS AudioWizard is needed for proper sound. I wonder if there is a way to boost the speaker just like MTK devices ... The speaker is as big as the G3 yet the G3 sounds 2x louder. Boosted speaker with viper4android, its better than stock now.
It's not bad or about middle of the road for me. Primarily use aux (jack) for the cars. Bluetooth works fine. Speaker sucks. That's the best description. When I need to use Waze (nav app) I need to jack in or use bluetooth since you won't really hear it. 3.5mm audio jack and bluetooth are on the quiet side but the only improvement over the sub par speaker.
im using jabra step bluetooth headset with viper4android..makes me feel like partying in a club using SRS Audio (Extreme Trubass) convolver..
I'm going to echo @aziz07 - AudioWizard is necessary. If you've disabled it thinking it was bloat, go back and restore it or push it from a stock ROM.
After I had "cleaned up" the ROM, I had the most hollow-sounding audio: no bass, it was all harsh mids and treble. In my car, the woofers were barely engaging. Viper4Android did nothing except bring up the mids and make it sound even more hollow. That's when I realized there was something else EQ-related that was missing. I then restored AudioWizard and all was well.
The audio quality is good with this phone. It's a bit bass heavy (when things are default), but that's pretty objective and easily adjusted. Using cheap in-ear earphones, there's thump.
I don't think it sounds as dynamic as my LG G2, but I can't make a direct comparison since my G2 died.
I'm no audiophile, but I'm VERY pleased with the output quality at low to mid volumes.
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I know , it sounded like an empty can of coke :laugh: I told SuperZen Rom maker that it gives more power mA to AUX port ; he added AudioWizard backin R12 release. Along with viper4andorid, it beats my R.I.P lg g2 (Started freezing randomly then would not boot anymore ; anyway it felt so cheap to beginning with and was overheating all the time 74C ; this Zenfone rarely exceeds 50C unless using the 18W quick charge, yet still ~55C ; I have seen my SoC go as low as 29C and battery 25C - Intel 3D 22nm Tri-gate transistors :good.
I use Yamaha EPH-50 Gold (13.6mm drive) + Viper4Android with Sennheiser HD800 settings lol + AudioWizard Music ; the bass is so powerfull that it gives me a headache and I have to lower it lol
using a Xiaomi Piston 2 + Shuttle+ here
I can say that the sound quality is HORRIBLE,like one of the worst i've ever experienced.It's so bad i am cosider buying a used 32gb iPhone 5c for $175 just to listen to music
haha My iphone 4 sound like crap versus the Zenfone with the settings and boosts mentioned above. Read earlier posts or stay with iphone 5c. Same crappy sound with iphone6+ and worse is that you can't mod them and use Viper4Android. Bass is many times more powerfull in my car's stereo and Harman-Kardon home theater BIC PL-200 system.
Sound quality for me is pretty good. I've tried it with some Panasonic RPTCM125K in ears, koss KSC75, Grado SR60, and a Bose Soundlink mini. The Panasonic's sounded decent, if a little muffled, but no different than what I remember when using them with other phones. The KSC75s sound great, and have decent clarity. I also use them over Bluetooth with this phone via a g-cord wireless audio receiver (purchased on amazon). They sound quite good that way as well, maybe lacking a little detail. The grados sounded excellent, so I use those when I don't need to be moving around. the Bose sounded somewhat muffled. I'm not sure if equalizer settings on the phone and Soundlink were working against each other or what. Although, the Soundlink mini seems to be a bit finicky with the surface that you place it on, and I had it resting on my kitchen table when using it, so maybe that's what was causing it.
Audio characteristics aside, and I'm no audio expert, the audio amplifier used in this phone seems quite capable. TPA2080D1, in case you're wondering. The full Bill of materials can be found at http://www.ewisetech.com/Pages/Product/bom.aspx?s=1961&dt=6820
Edit: I'm running with the audio wizard turned off. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if there's still some equalizer adjustment going on in the background.
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Speaker quality is average at best. Volume is too low, audio is distorted at max volume.
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glock24 said:
Speaker quality is average at best. Volume is too low, audio is distorted at max volume.
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Are you using Viper4Android? It made a big difference here even for the external speaker, use Vocal Boost and maxout everything but don't use speaker optimization. You can also apply this systemwide by deleting 2 paragraphs in /system/etc/audio_policy ; --> See Zenfone 2 Resources thread in viper4android section. After audio_policy modding for better V4A compatibility, Its working with Tunein radio, making crappy 32kbps radio stations sound much better, it will work with Youtube, etc

Hissing Static Sound coming from speakers and headphones

As you can tell form the title, I've been getting a very subtle hissing static sound coming from the speakers and headphones. I've noticed it for a while now, but I never really thought of it as a huge issue, but knowing that this is a audio oriented device, this shouldn't be a problem. It's only noticeable when audio gets quite during a part of a song like a quite instrumental part of a song. When something that's very "full" is playing, the audio overpowers this static sound and isn't that noticeable. Dolby only makes the static louder because of its volume boosting equalizer.
Is anyone else getting this problem and is there a fix to this? I saw someone post about this on the zte forums, but nobody really has a solution and it doesn't seem like one that people really care about.
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As you can tell form the title, I've been getting a very subtle hissing static sound coming from the speakers and headphones. I've noticed it for a while now, but I never really thought of it as a huge issue, but knowing that this is a audio oriented device, this shouldn't be a problem. It's only noticeable when audio gets quite during a part of a song like a quite instrumental part of a song. When something that's very "full" is playing, the audio overpowers this static sound and isn't that noticeable. Dolby only makes the static louder because of its volume boosting equalizer.
Is anyone else getting this problem and is there a fix to this? I saw someone post about this on the zte forums, but nobody really has a solution and it doesn't seem like one that people really care about.
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I'm also experiencing something similar. If I just play a song or another piece of audio clip, and then stop or let it finish playing. I can noticing subtle hissing sound coming from the speakers. It's not audible unless i place the phone almost at my eat. So not sure what it could be or if it's something to be concerned about.
I have it as well.
As was said, I have to really put my ear to the speaker to hear it.
I also have it in phone conversations.
It's not a HUGE deal. But it does annoy me very much considering that this is supposed to be an AUDIO oriented device.
I don't have it when using headphones.
I use bluetooth headphones, so never heard it.
But I do hear it now that I checked. Wonder what that is.
Hi,is that A2017U or A2017 G?
I'm getting ready to finally get the Ax7, is this a hardware defect to watch for?
Same here. Turning off Dolby Atmos improves it a bit but it seems like it's always there to some extent. I hope this is not a hardware problem.
I think this is uh normal.... Two speakers loud at that. Producing a sound it's going to keep playing until the song actually hits 0. This is how some things work. Alot really. I don't mind it one bit. The "hissing" as you call it is not really there for me. Low medium or high volumes. Maybe your speakers needs to "break-in" I've played some really loud music. Don't really hear static at any level.
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Maybe try a ground loop isolator. Just a thought off the top of my head.
nano303 said:
I think this is uh normal.... Two speakers loud at that. Producing a sound it's going to keep playing until the song actually hits 0. This is how some things work. Alot really. I don't mind it one bit. The "hissing" as you call it is not really there for me. Low medium or high volumes. Maybe your speakers needs to "break-in" I've played some really loud music. Don't really hear static at any level.
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yeah that's because it's harder to notice with loud, multi instrumental music, it's when listening to soft, acoustic or monophonic music that it becomes distinguishable
Check out the other threads over at ZTE this is a common issue something to do with Dolby Atmos
I have the Chinese A2017 model running Oreo & have just noticed this hissing sound which can be heard at lower volumes when I keep speakers close to my ear. I don't hear any hissing sound using headphones. I wonder if it's always been there or it's a hardware/software issue. I'm probably gonna hard reset the phone to see if it goes away. Anyone could fix it?

Headphone hissing sound

Is this headphone hissing sound common in all mi a1 phones or is there some hardware issue?
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Is your phone plugged in and charging when you get the hiss? im thinking its a hardware fix. It's not easy to notice it, at 1st I thought mine was OK - but play any tune that has some lower volume parts and you can hear it. Also, play any MP3, pause it - and you will hear the high pitched whine / hiss - it sort of sounds like electronic interference of some sort. So the sound is always there just masked until quieter passages. To test , use headphones, turn up the volume, play an mp3, use YouTube - anything with audio, then PAUSE the item and listen - you will hear a second or so of the noise, then it will stop.
Disable touch sounds from sound settings
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Disable touch sounds from sound settings
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The hissing sound returns when any sound is played?
a67rm said:
Is your phone plugged in and charging when you get the hiss? im thinking its a hardware fix. It's not easy to notice it, at 1st I thought mine was OK - but play any tune that has some lower volume parts and you can hear it. Also, play any MP3, pause it - and you will hear the high pitched whine / hiss - it sort of sounds like electronic interference of some sort. So the sound is always there just masked until quieter passages. To test , use headphones, turn up the volume, play an mp3, use YouTube - anything with audio, then PAUSE the item and listen - you will hear a second or so of the noise, then it will stop.
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Just noticed this last night :/. I was using apple earpods. changed to sony headphones, and the issue is gone. weird though
I'm interested in buying this phone but I'm holding off on it because of this widespread headphone audio issue. I'm surprised that this is such an issue... especially since the phone's supposed to have a 10v amplifier and Xiaomi's marketing the phone's HD audio? WTF.
I just need to know if this is affecting only Indian models or all models.
It's not that big of a deal mate you can only for a couple seconds when it goes silent, the audio on this is great
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robgee789 said:
It's not that big of a deal mate you can only for a couple seconds when it goes silent, the audio on this is great
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What about this thread? https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/71xrqz/mi_a1_headphone_static/
Seems like a fairly serious issue. And I like my volume loud (90+) so if static is apparent at higher volumes, I'll be extremely upset.
I'm extremely skeptical about the audio quality of this device. I can totally see it being above average or devices from the same price segment but I'm sure it isn't something from another world. People seem to over praise it and I'm sure most of them are just considering loudness as audio quality.
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I'm extremely skeptical about this device. People seem to over praise it for its audio quality but I'm sure most of them fail to distinguish audio quality and loudness.
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with some half decent earphone this phone sounds great not just loud mate
I'm having same issue.
This might caused by the audio amplifier boosted the volume gain which increases the static noise and taints audio clarity.
Earphone/headphone which has more than 35ohm impedance and low sensitiviy pressure level below 98dB might have better chance with the boosted gain.
Even on ATH M40X, the background static noise is still noticeable when sound is played. *sigh
I wish the amplifier is disabled by default and could be enabled on demand from equalizer app.
@chrone Exactly, I'm willing to see how it will perform with biquads mod (if it is possible)
Hey guys I've just noticed that I get the same hissing sound on my nvidia shield K1 but I never noticed it lol
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Same issue
I bought it today and finding it really irritating.
Do Bluetooth earphones make any difference?
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Do Bluetooth earphones make any difference?
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I just tested it with my bluetooth headphone. It's working good and I don't hear any weird sounds/hissing etc. But does the amplifier work if I use bluetooth headset?
kdng said:
I just tested it with my bluetooth headphone. It's working good and I don't hear any weird sounds/hissing etc. But does the amplifier work if I use bluetooth headset?
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I bought ones from JBL, no difference. A LOT of hissing :/.
Maybe someone can fix this in a custom ROM?
amithiel said:
I bought ones from JBL, no difference. A LOT of hissing :/.
Maybe someone can fix this in a custom ROM?
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Seems like a low impedance problem? There is a thread on reddit about this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/71xrqz/mi_a1_headphone_static/
Audio Quality is awesome on both the speaker and headphone jack. I have no issues. I am already getting mod like quality from this one.
I have this problem too using Audio-Technica Mx 40x and xioami hybrid. It's becoming quite annoying
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