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[Q] How is the audio quality with headphones?

Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!

I can't make comaparisons with other smartphones and in the month I have had the IDEOS X5 I find the sound quality pretty good through the headphones.
I've used different headphones that I have lying around. All were better than the headphones that came with the phone.
At home I use an old Koss full padded headphones that I normally use on the PC or when watching TV late at night. (It has a very long cable). I find the qality pretty good, warm bass without it being too punchy.
I also bought a set of cheap (AUD$3.50) stereo headphones from e-bay. The sound was crisp, perhaps a little too much treble but you can balance it out depending on the music app you use.
I recently bought a Sony Bluetooth stereo MW600 headset which work nicely with the IDEOS X5 using the stock music player. Sound is clear and well balanced.
Neither of these are very loud but I've had it turn it down a little depending on the outside noise level.
Having said all that there is a huge difference to sound quality depending on the type of bit rate used on the MP3's. The higher the bit rate the better the sound quality and volume...but I think that goes without saying but music listeners possibly don't allow for the quality of the re-encoding.
AND...the quality of audio is about 100 x better than through the speakers

The sound quality is bad. The bass is good but it also "spreads" out and muffles other sounds so it all sounds hazy. My PC/cowon I7 does not suffer from this.
The headphones I use daily are IE7's. Shure SE420 also sounded hazy with U8800. Tested with FLAC and MP3's with similar results on both.

Thanks for your answers.
Varatesh: Considering what high quality earphones you use, I guess your expectations might be somewhat higher than mine.
Sadly I don't know own anybody withe an U8800 so I can't test the audio quality and it's rarely tested in reviews, so no "objective" info there.

pragmatick said:
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
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I don't now if I help w/ my case:
I only use the U8800 heaphones/mic and I must not change because the pinout is different (begining by the point):
Sound.L/Sound.R/Mic/Ground.
The others like Samsung, LG, etc. the pinout is:
Sound.L/Sound.R/Ground/Mic.
If we chage it the sound is bad because it return by Mic, not by ground. And the Mic also work bad.

That's interesting, ValenteL. So that means it would be possible to solder an adapter? It's just a matter of switching two channels.

pragmatick said:
That's interesting, ValenteL. So that means it would be possible to solder an adapter? It's just a matter of switching two channels.
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Helo
It's possible. For music only, no problem, I use one w/ 3 contacts.
W/ Mic I encountered only one same the U8800, is the ZTE Blade one.
Cumps.

Using ideos x5 + poweramp (it uses ffmpeg's codecs = better quality than the stock android codecs) + sony mw600 = eargasm.
Deep bass, rich high's and great fidelity, even on low bit rate HEAAC files. Although one thing to note, i had problems and dropouts using by bluetooth handset over a2dp with the stock froyo roms. That problem vanished as soon as i moved to the 2.3.5 roms floating around here (My personal favorite is MIUI and i'm waiting for an official cm7 nightly )
I'm not an audiophile or something - i wouldn't use my smartphone for music if i was one - but for the price tag and the hardware we get, music quality is superb, especially compared to the crappy sound output my previous htc wildfire had.

pragmatick said:
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
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Sound is normal but you always can hear empty noise..the current noise.. there is no silence when there is no audio (yes it shuts down audio after 5secs of no audio) but it always have noise if you listen at more then 25% of volume then you will not hear it but if you listen at night you can clearly hear it.

Tommixoft said:
Sound is normal but you always can hear empty noise..the current noise.. there is no silence when there is no audio (yes it shuts down audio after 5secs of no audio) but it always have noise if you listen at more then 25% of volume then you will not hear it but if you listen at night you can clearly hear it.
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I agree with this. It's very apparent when listening to audiobooks, not a big problem with music though.

I can confirm the "current" noise too....

wolfson chip or not, the s4 sgs3 has great sound quality

I know there is a big question as to whether the American gs3 has the wolfson audio chip. I can tell you right away that using poweramp with the rock preset produces some of the best audio I have heard out of any media player. Just so you understand my level of audio history I currently own Shure e500 pth, Phonak audeo pfe 232, klipsch x10, velodyne vpulse, ultimate ears super fi .5 eb, klipsch s4, shure se535, klipsch image one, audio technica m800. I have owned cowon d3, j3, ipod touch ipod classic, toshiba gigabeat s60. I am just giving you guys a heads up that it also is powerful enough to drive all the headphones (except for th Audio technica) without an amp. Hopefully this post helps a music fanatic like myself.
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That's good to hear. My exynos version is very soft driving my Akg monitors directly.

Yes it sounds great except the noise floor is high. A lot of noise on quiet music. Great dynamic range though.

stonew5082 said:
Yes it sounds great except the noise floor is high. A lot of noise on quiet music. Great dynamic range though.
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Yeah, it's almost obscenely noisy. With rock music I'm not sure I'd ever notice, but anything with quiet parts drives me batty. Hopefully it is an internal amp setting that can be tweaked in software (my volume level is often at 2 or 3 so trading volume for reduced noise is an easy choice).

Even the speaker is nice and crisp! Also the APT-X on this phone and my Bluetooth dongle...is great!

I do like the audio output, it sounds great in my car. I didn't realize how bad my SGS2 was until I tried this! I'm actually NOT disappointed by the earbuds Sammy bundled with the phone! They deliver a surprisingly punchy bass. They are a warmer tone I think, so they don't sound as crisp as they could. I just don't feel like the music is *right there*, it's like it's behind a small film or wall. It's close, just not going directly into my ear. It's like it's going through a filter. Anyway. Good quality output in my opinion, as least much better than it could have been.

With poweramp and my IEM's (Earsonic SM-3) I don't notice any background noise at all. This is the best portable digital player I've had, and I can't wait to get a 64gb card for it. Definitely beats spending $200 on 64gb of permanent storage from apple.
gary

yokken said:
I do like the audio output, it sounds great in my car. I didn't realize how bad my SGS2 was until I tried this! I'm actually NOT disappointed by the earbuds Sammy bundled with the phone! They deliver a surprisingly punchy bass. They are a warmer tone I think, so they don't sound as crisp as they could. I just don't feel like the music is *right there*, it's like it's behind a small film or wall. It's close, just not going directly into my ear. It's like it's going through a filter. Anyway. Good quality output in my opinion, as least much better than it could have been.
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I agree the included headphones aren't bad at all. I installed awesome beats app on mine via the diet ics rom and the music sounds wonderful!

I used my Sennheiser HD280s with and without my Fiio E5 amp and it sounded relatively the same. But for some reason, it sounded somewhat empty, lacking body... Almost translating what I noticed with the earbuds to the headphones. Maybe the DAC really isn't that good.

cloudyphiz said:
With poweramp and my IEM's (Earsonic SM-3) I don't notice any background noise at all. This is the best portable digital player I've had, and I can't wait to get a 64gb card for it. Definitely beats spending $200 on 64gb of permanent storage from apple.
gary
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See I'm the opposite. I noticed more background noise (mostly during quiet parts of songs) with poweramp than the stock player, but the eq and interface in poweramp is just so much better that I can't leave it.

Voltage Spike said:
Yeah, it's almost obscenely noisy. With rock music I'm not sure I'd ever notice, but anything with quiet parts drives me batty. Hopefully it is an internal amp setting that can be tweaked in software (my volume level is often at 2 or 3 so trading volume for reduced noise is an easy choice).
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We need headphone amp control. If Supercurio doesn't support us gs3 I'm going to kill myself or write a control app.

stonew5082 said:
We need headphone amp control. If Supercurio doesn't support us gs3 I'm going to kill myself or write a control app.
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You're making me want to pull down Samsung's kernel source to see if I can identify what is bound to be an initialization problem...
Actually, just tried the phone on a less-sensitive set of earbuds, and the noise is much less noticeable. I'll have to give the in-box earbuds a try for comparison.

My iem's are relatively efficient and with aiff files the sound is fantastic. I'm using poweramp with eq off. Clarity, resolution, inner detail and fidelity in spades.this is going to make me buy a 64gb card. Or four.
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poweramp with DVC (direct volume control) enabled gives distortion, especially with the tone adjustments such as the bass control, so far the best sound i have heard is the stock player with the rock setting or custom with the rock settings and bass turned up a bit, i hope poweramp devs resolve the distortion as i really don't think the problem is the phone itself, and for what its worth i am very picky with my music and have tested the settings with high end audio technica headphones and my competition subs in my car.

BlazingBeast7 said:
poweramp with DVC (direct volume control) enabled gives distortion, especially with the tone adjustments such as the bass control, so far the best sound i have heard is the stock player with the rock setting or custom with the rock settings and bass turned up a bit, i hope poweramp devs resolve the distortion as i really don't think the problem is the phone itself, and for what its worth i am very picky with my music and have tested the settings with high end audio technica headphones and my competition subs in my car.
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turning off DVC did help some

sure turning dvc off helps but at that point using the stock player produces better sound so as of now poweramp is a no go for me.

Could be lounder
The sound quality is great, was pleasantly surprised with the included earbuds and fit kit. Big improvement from the S-II.
One gripe is the volume. While louder than the S-II it is still a little quieter than I refer. Anyone know how to boost the volume?

I still slightly prefer the GS1 with voodoo sound, but this phone does better than I was expecting and absolutely rapes the GS2 on audio quality. Great for what I use it for.

toiler1 said:
The sound quality is great, was pleasantly surprised with the included earbuds and fit kit. Big improvement from the S-II.
One gripe is the volume. While louder than the S-II it is still a little quieter than I refer. Anyone know how to boost the volume?
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hearing aids?
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Good tip on the stock music player. I never even thought of trying it. Much better sound than my other apps.
Looking for a hearing aid app after I find my bifocals.
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PSA Turn Beats off

Ask any audiophile, onboard digital processing done ruins your sound.
turning beats off improves clarity, and volume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7j06aYYkzdQ#t=236s

bob13bob said:
Ask any audiophile, onboard digital processing done ruins your sound.
turning beats off improves clarity, and volume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7j06aYYkzdQ#t=236s
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I've got to disagree.
When I have beats on, not all the songs sound quieter, only some.
With regards to clarity, i feel that with Beats audio, everything is more compressed. Without Beats enabled, i feel like the music is playing in a large auditorium and the sound is slightly messy.
But at that, I'm going to say I'm not an audiophile by any stretch of the imagination, and my above applies to speakers (haven't tested headphones yet).
So with speakers, I'd definitely rather keep beats enabled.
Lemme find my S4i's and ill get back to you on headphone quality
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Interestingly enough, I've gone through snippets of 10 or so songs and beats enabled was louder in every instance!
Clarity was similar, but i prefer the sound from the Beats enabled option.
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bob13bob said:
Ask any audiophile, onboard digital processing done ruins your sound.
turning beats off improves clarity, and volume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7j06aYYkzdQ#t=236s
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As WolfDale7 said, the volume actually being lower is not all that common. That guy in the YouTube video cherry picked a highly mechanized trance song to prove his point. But I'd say for about 75% of songs, Beats does make it louder.
I do agree with you about the clarity, but your statement is only true if you've got good speakers/headphones/earphones that don't require equalization to sound good. I own a pair of Ultimate Ear TripleFi 10 and I keep Beats off to preserve the original natural sound of the recording without added bass/treble, because these are high quality earphones that don't require equalization, particularly at higher volumes. If I enable Beats at higher volumes, the treble is too harsh and the middle-bass is too overpowering.
However, that being said, there are plenty of cheaper/lesser quality headphones/earphones that DO sound better with Beats enabled, because it partially makes up for their shortcomings. Cheaper earphones whose high frequencies roll off too soon sound a bit dull, and Beats does help in those situations. Earphones that can't produce low frequencies very well (below 80 hz) do sound better to a lot of people if you accentuate the middle-bass range of 100-150 Hz or so. Plus, some people do prefer the extra "punch" that Beats offers, especially in low bass recordings (such as a lot of stuff from the 80's).

henrybravo said:
I do agree with you, but your statement is only true if you've got good speakers/headphones/earphones that don't require equalization to sound good. I own a pair of Ultimate Ear TripleFi 10 and I keep Beats off to preserve the original natural sound of the recording without added bass/treble, because these are high quality earphones that don't require equalization, particularly at higher volumes. If I enable Beats at higher volumes, the treble is too harsh and the middle-bass is too overpowering.
However, that being said, there are plenty of cheaper/lesser quality headphones/earphones that DO sound better with Beats enabled, because it partially makes up for their shortcomings. Cheaper earphones whose high frequencies roll off too soon sound a bit dull, and Beats does help in those situations. Earphones that can't produce low frequencies very well (below 80 hz) do sound better to a lot of people if you accentuate the middle-bass range of 100-150 Hz or so. Plus, some people do prefer to extra "punch" that Beats offers, especially in low bass recordings (such as a lot of stuff from the 80's).
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psa 2. you bought a $600 phone. go to head-fi and get one of the value budget audiophile quality headphones under $50. (I like the chinese brands). It is the defacto the best bang/buck audio improvement quality you can get by a huge margin.
When you turn processing on, you can help mask poor quality headphones... but it will also reduce clarity

henrybravo said:
However, that being said, there are plenty of cheaper/lesser quality headphones/earphones that DO sound better with Beats enabled, because it partially makes up for their shortcomings. Cheaper earphones whose high frequencies roll off too soon sound a bit dull, and Beats does help in those situations. Earphones that can't produce low frequencies very well (below 80 hz) do sound better to a lot of people if you accentuate the middle-bass range of 100-150 Hz or so. Plus, some people do prefer to extra "punch" that Beats offers, especially in low bass recordings (such as a lot of stuff from the 80's).
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If i might add something. I'm using the Klipsch S4i set of earphones. The S4i's are capable of a frequency response of 10Hz to 19kHz. Maybe it's the lower quality files I have, but I'm sure the S4i's can handle the <80hz range just fine.
As mentioned above, I personally prefer listening to music with Beats enabled, with and without earphones.
I must say that with Beats enabled, almost everything sounds better. And this is coming from a guy who despises beats headphones.
But i dont know much about music production... So my views shouldn't really be taken too seriously .
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bob13bob said:
psa 2. you bought a $600 phone. go to head-fi and get one of the value budget audiophile quality headphones under $50. (I like the chinese brands). It is the defacto the best bang/buck audio improvement quality you can get by a huge margin.
When you turn processing on, you can help cover the poor quality headphones... but it will also reduce quality.
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Your last statement is an oxymoron - it will cover the poor quality of headphones but will also reduce quality? If the overall net effect is a general improvement in sound to the user, then Beats has done its job.

WolfDale7 said:
If i might add something. I'm using the Klipsch S4i set of earphones. The S4i's are capable of a frequency response of 10Hz to 19kHz. Maybe it's the lower quality files I have, but I'm sure the S4i's can handle the <80hz range just fine.
As mentioned above, I personally prefer listening to music with Beats enabled, with and without earphones.
I must say that with Beats enabled, almost everything sounds better. And this is coming from a guy who despises beats headphones.
But i dont know much about music production... So my views shouldn't really be taken too seriously .
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s4i are known for poor bass and low end response. I had them, they are not good for music with bass. they are pretty old and I dont' see the recommended much these days in head-fi.

i think a lot will disagree, the quality especially for the stereo speakers is greatly improved with beats

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Your last statement is an oxymoron - it will cover the poor quality of headphones but will also reduce quality? If the overall net effect is a general improvement in sound to the user, then Beats has done its job.
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you are right, i meant to say clarity. I edited my statement to be more clear.

I don't pretend to understand the argument in depth just know that the majority of times audio sounds better with beats on to me.
But I use my old s3 headphones at the minute, prefer them to my boxed HTC ones.
So maybe a better quality pair would make all the difference.
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I have a pair of Klipsch X10 so I got all you s4 guys beat But really they sounds horrible with beats enabled. I can hear all kinds of distortion in the bass and highs it's very fatiguing and hurts the ears at anything but low volume. This is what I expected and have always experienced with "Beats" audio. But if you look at the quality of audio gear with the Beats logo it makes perfect sense!!!

nullkill said:
I have a pair of Klipsch X10 so I got all you s4 guys beat But really they sounds horrible with beats enabled. I can hear all kinds of distortion in the bass and highs it's very fatiguing and hurts the ears at anything but low volume. This is what I expected and have always experienced with "Beats" audio. But if you look at the quality of audio gear with the Beats logo it makes perfect sense!!!
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Nice the x10s sure are a great pair! Now here's another thing. The x10s are more accurate than my s4i's... That pretty much means that the flaws in compressed mp3 files are probably more prominent with the x10s. Maybe enabling beats amplifies them even further!
The s4i's does a better job of covering up any distortion or sound flaws than the x10s..
So yea, maybe that explains something. You get more clean audio, but if the file is average, amplifying it may make it worse..
Try a flac or wav on your phone. Maybe with Beats they'll sound alright
But none of what I said above applies if you have ready tried less compressed formats like Wav and Flac
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On my phone, I use Apple earpods (those weird looking things); they work great for casual listening.
If I wanted to seriously enjoy my music, I'm not using my phone. I'm using a proper line out source, amp, and proper cans.

most of the quality comes from the headphones. so worth getting a good pair.
this thread is a great thread for reviewed headphones in several price categories.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/mul...ed-audio-technica-ckm500-added-05-01-13-p-678

Problem is there aren't too many good sets that come with volume buttons, although that can be counter measured with headset droid (3 button presses for volume up, 4 button presses for volume down). Still not sure what set to get out of the phonak audeo's, meelec's a161p or the x10's which I hear have very suspect build quality

Galactus said:
Problem is there aren't too many good sets that come with volume buttons, although that can be counter measured with headset droid (3 button presses for volume up, 4 button presses for volume down). Still not sure what set to get out of the phonak audeo's, meelec's a161p or the x10's which I hear have very suspect build quality
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Off topic, but I just need to mention something:
I have the S4i's and multi click isn't working with the default music app. I have yet to test other apps like poweramp, But I think it's all the same. I think HTC devices need a bypass that require root or something...
I can pause and play, and the mic works wonderfully, but I can't skip forward twice (I do it once, then when I want to skip again, it just pauses. I have to hit play and do it again..) Same with reverse, and 4 clicks just doesn't work
Might be a faulty pair of headphones.. I'm using HeadsetDroid and the same can be said about my previous defected HTC One Unit

Why do people always bring this into play
If you hate beats, then turn it off..
If you think it actually does something then keep it on.
Everyone has different hearing..
If having beats is a deal breaker for you then why you bought the phone.
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When I stream spotify via Bluetooth to my car stereo I have to turn beats off or else it sounds crappy, almost tinny. The higher the quality of music the worse it gets.
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Beats is just an eq. Not very good either. Pumps up low frequencies too much. Not even close to what the source is supposed to sound like.
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I am also inclined to agree that Beats is just an Equalizer for Loudness. I'm using HD-25 II's and kept flicking Beats On/Off and all I could really notice was just an increase in volume.
Thankfully, I'm not missing anything with it turned off (I turned it off along with many features to preserve battery life because even though I don't know for sure, at least it's not necessary for me).
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Beats is just an eq. Not very good either. Pumps up low frequencies too much. Not even close to what the source is supposed to sound like.
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Audio SQ Stock vs CM10?

Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?

This is the big question for me since I own a pair of NuForce NE-700M and plan to upgrade to Yamaha EPH-100, and roughly 90% of my smartphone usage is just listening to music. GSMArena shows stock playing with enjoyably low THD (I know some of you aren't too fond of their review process, though).

Deadeye* said:
Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?
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Stock has workarounds for the cheap buds that come with the Oppo - but Dirac HD is unnecessary for decent headphones and in fact ruins the audio quality if used with good headphones. So if you use decent wired headphones you should not hear much difference if any. Some A2DP (stereo Bluetooth) devices have issues with 4.2 due to the new Bluetooth stack, however I can't reproduce this with any of my A2DP headsets.

I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....

Nelson Hawker said:
I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....
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No, DiracHD only works with cheap headphones - more specifically, *only with the cheap headphones included with the device* - it is an EQ preset that offsets the deficiencies of the OEM earbuds. Use it with anything that doesn't have the exact same frequency response and you correct for problems that aren't there - effectively creating new problems that didn't exist.
Effectively it's an audio form of RF predistortion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predistortion - Applying predistortion to anything with distortion characteristics different from what the predistortion algorithm was designed for results in increased distortion.

Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim

Nelson Hawker said:
Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim
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I got rid of my stock firmware before I had a chance to try the Dirac stuff, but it sounds like it's very similar to Beats Audio, where a lot of the lower spectrum and possibly some of the highs are boosted. This generally makes a more "fun" sound for the casual listener but a lot of more analytical listeners will feel like it ruins the sound, especially if they own earphones that already have their preferred sound signature.

So basically: If your earbuds share a similar signature to the Find 5 included buds, you'll appreciate Dirac HD's effects. Elsewise, if Dirac happens to shape your buds' signature into something you enjoy, then more power to it.
Meh. My NuForce NE-700Ms are already plenty V-shaped (my only complaint being that I have to run 4khz into the ground because it can be harsh. I still recommend them to you out there looking for a quality pair of IEMs at a decent price)

Only for information:
With the Stock Music App, which is not really bad you can switch between DIRAC, Dolby or turn every sound improvement off. But you must plug your headphone in otherwise you have in the speaker mode only a possibility to select Dolby or turn everything off..
So you can compare a little bit better how it works for you...

Audio quality

Hi experts,
I'm a long time Xiaomi user coming from Mi A1 thinking to buy this Mi 9T in US.
I'm not to happy with the A1 audio quality, especially over the headphones. I tried different brands, but not much luck. My GF has a note6pro, my family 5a..
Looking at the gsmarena site they are not impressed too with headphone test on this model, not sure it can be trusted though.
My main concern is the microphone and echo/noise canceling.
Can you guys give me a "real life review"?!

Check other thread, there many other (me included) confirm audio quality is suprisingly good, contrary to rumors. Maybe updates improved it?
I can say it is just as good as my amazing LG V20 with quad DAC! And the LG V series are the bechmark when it comes to android audio quality.
Only my problem is that volume is low, but AFAIK that is EU regulations, and should be easy to hack/fix, and would not apply anyway AFAIK for US version.
Just got my Mi 9T, and it is just STUNNING! A piece of art. I still catch myself staring at its beauty.

I would like to know about this too. And once again, there is NO EU regulation limiting volume. Manufacturers are meant to warn users when the volume is getting loud so they can confirm they want to proceed. If the phone companies can't read the rules, that's not the EU's fault. Enough with the fake news.

There's two modes of audio in the 9t "hi-fi" or regular.
I think that the option it's meant to switch from the audio chip modes, regular or performance (I think it's the best chip it has Qualcomm for audio, or at least they made it sound like that).
This performance mode uses more power, like 5 times more, and I am almost certain that gsmarena reviewed it without this setting on, that's why the poor results.
Look at this for more info of the chip.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/wcd9375

Interesting for the consuption I didn't know ! and I can confirm that the sound quality is very good.
For the volume mine is very loud, impossible to put at max but it depend of your earphones impedance and many others things. (you have to play good quality sample music like FLAC and a good player like "AIMP" or "Poweramp" that can be "bit perfect"

Yes, I did a blind test against my creative Sound Blaster E1 (the phone supports DACs over USB C as well) and it is indistinguishable from that nice and proper DAC, IN THE HI-FI MODE. The source was lossless stuff from Tidal and the earbuds used were my trusty HiFiMan RE400a earbuds. I can verify that one has to listen at like two clicks below the full volume for everything to come through (i.e. the volume is a bit low, but baseline audio performance is excellent)

soumen08 said:
Yes, I did a blind test against my creative Sound Blaster E1 (the phone supports DACs over USB C as well) and it is indistinguishable from that nice and proper DAC, IN THE HI-FI MODE. The source was lossless stuff from Tidal and the earbuds used were my trusty HiFiMan RE400a earbuds. I can verify that one has to listen at like two clicks below the full volume for everything to come through (i.e. the volume is a bit low, but baseline audio performance is excellent)
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That's nice to hear.

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razielmcr said:
That's nice to hear.
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I would be also interested in the microphone handling in the topic of Audit quality. On Mi A1 ppl always complained when I was using a headset as the noise canceling part did not work. Same for Speaker mode..
Also why "Hi-Fi audio" is not on by default as it claims to increase audio quality.

Regarding the phone calls I can tell that my factory set 9T is poor. I cannot hear and understand what people say when calling. (Never had this on any phone before) Weird sound and some echo. And nowhere any audio settings in phone.

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Regarding the phone calls I can tell that my factory set 9T is poor. I cannot hear and understand what people say when calling. (Never had this on any phone before) Weird sound and some echo. And nowhere any audio settings in phone.
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I don't have that problem. Phone calls are clear

Regarding audio quality over a headphone jack = it is worst audio quality I have ever tested from any smartphone be honest. I also know people who see it the same way. I went to Mi9T from Pocophone and never had this issue there - poco is still in my house, I gave it to my wife so I can really compare between the two. Tried both normal and hi-fi modes on Mi9T.
Audio over BT is fine on other hand - thats most important for me
I was testing audio quality on SONY WH-1000MX3
What could be the reason for this I dont know. The audio chip should be great. I have tried many versions of MIUI as well.

Tested right now with Beyerdynamic dt770 Pro 250 Ohm version. My source file is from deezer to have a better idea of an average quality of a song someone might listen to.
Hi-Fi is enabled and i can say that audio quality is pretty good. I wouldn't compare it to LG Quad Dac but the phone is powering 250 Ohm studio headphones very well.
People usually evaluate audio quality by the amount of bass. IMO its good enough.

@Nexus5-32GB I have the same impression. I came from a Zuk Z2 Pro and audio quality is poor. Bass is OK but mids and treble are too high. I'm using the same Senheiser MX-30G as always and the difference is noticiable even in Hi-Fi. My wife's Redmi 4A have better sound.

I am using poweramp music player to listen to music, and the audio quality is just superb! Previously I used google play music with mi sound enhancer and the audio quality is pretty mediocre compared to poweramp.

I tested hifi with AudioTechnica M50. It does make a difference and I feel it is a lot louder so much that I'm afraid of pushing volume to max. I like my hearing very much. You don't need portable amps with this phone for the most part. It's probably not audiophile approved or something like that but it sounds very full.

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@Nexus5-32GB I have the same impression. I came from a Zuk Z2 Pro and audio quality is poor. Bass is OK but mids and treble are too high. I'm using the same Senheiser MX-30G as always and the difference is noticiable even in Hi-Fi. My wife's Redmi 4A have better sound.
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What player are you using?
Using Google play the sound it's ****.
Using Tidal it's heaven, don't know why.

Exactly, if you use it right the sound is very good but if you listen mp3 with googlemusic, sure the best earphones can't do anything for you

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What player are you using?
Using Google play the sound it's ****.
Using Tidal it's heaven, don't know why.
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I don't think it's a player issue 'cause I always use the same player. I always compare the sound using Spotify. I use Spotify on all my family devices.

billiken_27 said:
I don't think it's a player issue 'cause I always use the same player. I always compare the sound using Spotify. I use Spotify on all my family devices.
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Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, I know, but in my case that happend, playing throug play music was horrible and understandable that people complain about it, but with Tidal it's beyond anything i've heard.
Other users have notified that they too notice when playing through play music.

actually is awesome
brombadeg said:
Hi experts,
I'm a long time Xiaomi user coming from Mi A1 thinking to buy this Mi 9T in US.
I'm not to happy with the A1 audio quality, especially over the headphones. I tried different brands, but not much luck. My GF has a note6pro, my family 5a..
Looking at the gsmarena site they are not impressed too with headphone test on this model, not sure it can be trusted though.
My main concern is the microphone and echo/noise canceling.
Can you guys give me a "real life review"?!
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Coming from a zte axon 7 I was really doubtful about the sound quality, but I'm impressed about it, it has a hifi logo on the box and sounds really good, with a couple of good headphones I can't listen no difference with the zte axon 7, also had a poco f1 and it sounds a thousand times better than the poco