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Bluetooth Compatibility ver 1.1/1.2

Hi There.
I am using the mini which has the BT 1.2 while my headset (BTH778) has 1.1 version.
Most people complain about hearing me with noises and a bit metalic as well - could that be the issue? if yes, is there a solution?
Thanks,
Udi

Supposedly the MS Stack 1.2 is backwards compatible, but I also wonder about the 1.2 profile.
My Audi has 1.0 or 1.1, not really sure. The Blue Angel worked with my cars BT, but the JAM 1.2 cannot even partner.

The Maigician not being able to partner with your Audi has nothing to do with 1.1 vs 1.2. It is a matter of the MS stack not supporting the "handsfree" profile as required by the Audi. (Or if it is the "headset" profile that is not supported, can't remember).

Makes sense.
Hope someone can figure out how to replace the MS Stack with the newer Broadcom Satck.

Or rather, let us hope that Microsoft provides an updated stack with support for a few more profiles. Apart from the lack of profiles the MS stack seems to do the job pretty well.

I wouldn't count on MS to provide much. They never provided an profiles since 2003 for the MDA II Device, which had the MS Stack, albeit 1.1.

Bluetooth PC software : : Widcomm BTW 4.0

Exclamation Arrow Broadcom Corporation announced the Widcomm BTW 4.0, a new release of its Bluetooth software, with enhanced security and adding advanced audio/video (A/V) capabilities to the industry's most widely adopted Bluetooth software. The new software was tested and qualified for native support and seamless operation with Mcft's recently announced Service Pack 2 upgrade for the Windows XP operating system (Windows XP SP2).
Wireless, high quality stereo audio headsets and speakers enabled by the new WIDCOMM BTW (Bluetooth for Windows) 4.0 software is a new application expected to drive widespread Bluetooth adoption for consumers over the coming years. A/V enhancements built into BTW 4.0 software will bring a new level of audio quality to wireless headsets, enabling a generation of products capable of delivering CD-like stereo sound without the need for wires. The same A/V Bluetooth profile support can be expected to appear in upcoming consumer electronics products like MP3 players, cellular phones, PDAs, and other appliances.
The company sees wireless headsets or speakers enabled with this technology streaming high quality sound while also performing remote control functions such as pausing or stopping play, and selecting tracks. In addition, consumers can utilise wireless speakers, enabling enhanced sound and audio distribution for DVD and CD playback.
Broadcom's WIDCOMM BTW 4.0 incorporates the latest software "profiles," which ensure a common set of features between two Bluetooth devices. Bluetooth profiles are developed and standardized through the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG). BTW 4.0 features many of the latest profiles, which provide advanced multimedia capabilities including:
GAVDP -- Generic Audio Video Distribution Profile
A2DP -- Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
AVRCP -- Audio Video Remote Control Profile
BTW 4.0 also supports the Basic Imaging Profile, which provides the ability to "push" and "pull" images wirelessly between a mobile phone or digital camera and a PC.
"BTW 4.0 answers two distinct needs in the Bluetooth space: enhanced security, and the ability to effectively stream high-quality audio to wireless headphones or speakers. It is changing the dynamics of how consumers will experience multimedia content on their PCs," said Ron Wong, Senior Product Line Manager for Broadcom's Bluetooth software products. "Broadcom's unique ability to design and deliver all the critical technology pieces for next-generation wireless electronic devices enables our partners to bring products to market quickly and with features that hold great appeal for consumer markets."
PC OEMs are already shipping Bluetooth in a large number of their commercial notebook PCs and are expecting continuous growth and accelerated adoption into 2005. With this rapid adoption, large enterprises have expressed growing concerns over security and software virus spreads. The new WIDCOMM BTW4.0 software incorporates enhanced security capability to help address these concerns
The software is currently shipping to Broadcom's early access partners...and is available free of charge to all members exclusively
Download:
http://my.so-net.net.tw/dean8888/Widcomm_BTW 4.0.1.700.rar
Thank soneone upload

thanks for sharing...
a question for ya... have ya tried the software yourself? is it work good with no problems?

i tried it and installed fine but now my bluetooth isn't working when i try to start the BT i get this error "Your Bluetooth Software License doesn't include use with this bluetooth device. [6] and i have a billionton 100m bluetooth dongle

Somehow I'm doubtful that this really will do waht I'm looking for, has anybody tried it to get audio sent from the unit to their BT headset with this software?

BT 4.0 "patch"
You also need the attached to get the Widcom to work. Follow instructions in #2 folder.

I've got the same problem
What ya mean with folder #2 ??
Edit Aaah now theres a file

thanks man.. all working now..

Sorry forgot patch

after installing the Widcomm 4.0.1.700 software i can't set my computer as a handsfree device on my O2 mini (the voice gateway seems not to work too)...
both of them used to work.
anyone else has this problem? :?
BTW: how can i transfer files throw this bt software to my mini?
everytime i choose filetransfer it says the device doesnt support it.
even with MICROSOFT drivers i managed to send files to the device :shock:

Knot said:
Sorry forgot patch
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Where Can I get the patch I have downloaded the rar file you have posted but do not see #2 Folder ??? PLease help

It works on XDAII,.. I am making a how to post now. The experts say it is from an XDAII and for an XDAII.. But who knows!!! Try it. :shock:

Churchill said:
Knot said:
Sorry forgot patch
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Where Can I get the patch I have downloaded the rar file you have posted but do not see #2 Folder ??? PLease help
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=3550

Sorry for a stupid question, but this bluetooth software is for the Magician or for the Windows XP?

718 said:
Sorry for a stupid question, but this bluetooth software is for the Magician or for the Windows XP?
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It's for Window PC

I replaced the files from your .rar dewild1 but i get the same message when i'm trying to "start using bluetooth" : " Your bluetooth software license does not include use with this Bluetooth device". Is something that i can do to make them work? I had the "rom version 2.06.00WWE" and the "radio version 1.18.00" and i can't syncronize my xda to activesync via bluetooth, and i hoped that this driver will help me.

OK what are the Specs REALLY

Just looked at mobilefun.co.uk and they have the K-Jam specs as this :-
· Microsoft Windows 2005
· High resolution trans reflective TFT-LCD screen (240 x 320 pixel)
128 MB Flash ROM / 64MB SDRAM
Triband 900/1800/1900 MHz
MMC / SDIO Memory Slot
802.11b Wireless LAN
· Boosts all the lastest communications including integrated WLAN, GPRS and UMITS technology
· Push Email Service
· 1.3 Megapixel CMOS camera & Flash
· Built-In 62 Key QWERTY keyboard
· Radio - WCDMA / GSM / GPRS PDA
Look at the Radio this states 3g rather than Edge .... can someone confirm.

Qtek 9100 specs (confirmed with supplier at smartdevicesdirect.co.uk):
Hardware Specifications:
Operating System -Microsoft Windows Mobile version 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition
Processor - TI OMAP 850
GSM/GPRS Module - Internal antenna, Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900)
WiFi (manufacture option) - IEEE 802.11b, Internal WLAN antenna, 11, 5.5, 2, and 1 Mbps per channel, auto fallback for extended range, ELP mode, Security: WPA authentication – WEP, PSK, EAP-TLS, PEAP, LEAP
Memory - ROM: 128 MB, RAM: 64MB SDRAM
LCD module - 2.8” 240 x 320 pixels. 64K-color TFT Transflective LCD
Sound - Built-n Microphone, Receiver, Dual speaker on both sides, Loud speaker for Hands-Free supported.
Power - Removable and chargeable Lithium ion polymer battery, 1200mAh (TBD). Talk time: 4~5 hours (TBD) Standby time: 200 hours (TBD)
Camera - CMOS 1.3 Mega pixel with fixed lens, video/flash light, Preview Mirror.
Expansions - Mini-SD slot
Connectivity - Infrared IrDA SIR, External antenna connector, 2.5Ø stereo audio jack.
Dimensions - 108 mm (L) x 58 mm (W) x 23.5 mm (T), 150g with battery pack.
Generic software applications - Photo Album with editing picture capability, Camera capture utility, Camcorder, Zip, Polyphonic MIDI Ringtone Engine Intelli Dial, Intelli Pad, Smart Launcher
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My point exactly ,,, these specs don't even mention EDGE !!

Thats because its not EDGE compliant. The HTC Apache is the EDGE compliant version of the Wizard.
The specs I have posted are official as they have been confirmed with the supplier.

ShALLaX said:
Thats because its not EDGE compliant. The HTC Apache is the EDGE compliant version of the Wizard.
The specs I have posted are official as they have been confirmed with the supplier.
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As far as we have heard and seen in the States, the HTC Apache is the CDMA version of the Wizard and has EVDO (and thus not EDGE which runs on GSM). Rumor has it that the Wizard (at least the one that will be released by the US GSM carriers) will have EDGE.
The specs here confirm the EDGE rumor on the Qtek 9100: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4173.html

Oh crap my bad.. sorry, yes the Apache is the CDMA version and apparently the Wizard has EDGE.

Here we go:
http://www.qtek.fi/qtek9100.htm

does anyone know if this will have support for USB 2.0 (the sync port)?

OMAP 850 specs
Well, I got a bit curious and went digging on the TI site for information about the OMAP 850 and found this:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
Based on this I would say that yes, it is possible that the device has 802.11g (The diagram shows a/b/g) and they could very well have Bluetooth 2.0 (Did anyone spot a BRF6300 chip on the device?).
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX

Very unlikely that it will have anything above 802.11b.

In the specs:
CMOS 1.3Mega pixel with fixed lens
Or
CMOS 2.1Mega pixel with macro lens / AF
anyone heard of a unit selling with the 2.1?
Also, I in the specs under MSD:
Blackberry email client (Optional)
I heard of a blackberry client available for the Magician, anyone have it?
-mix

Re: OMAP 850 specs
robinton said:
Based on this I would say that yes, it is possible that the device has 802.11g (The diagram shows a/b/g) and they could very well have Bluetooth 2.0 (Did anyone spot a BRF6300 chip on the device?)
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The diagram only shows peripherals the processor supports... The final call is the sole property of HTC whether to put an a, b, or g. Just like Intel Bulverde supports Wi-Fi internally, Palm Treo 650 (Bulverde 312 MHz) doesn't come with Wi-Fi.

The HTC Wizard has Bluetooth version 2.0...!

Yep - not 1.1 or 1.2 - it is the first PDA, and one of the first devices full stop, that has the brand spanking up-to-date version 2.0 of Bluetooth.
If you don't know - BT 2.0 is 3 to 10 times faster (3 - 10 Mbps), uses less power, has no lag when connecting multiple devices and is backwardly compatible with BT 1.0 - 1.2 (proper and smaller stereo headsets will be one advantage of this).
See here for the evidence (from the Bluetooth Qualification website): http://qualweb.bluetooth.org/Templa...=QualifiedProducts&Details=Yes&ProductID=2740

Excellent, good find!

Says BlueTooth 1.2 here: http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2638

Spoke to I-mate today , they confirm bluetooth 2.0 with Wid instead of Microsft Stack. They also mentioned 3g on the wizard. I guess they ment EDGE.

Oh I really hope it is the Widcomm stack.

Hrm.. annoyingly this says Bluetooth 1.2: http://www.qtek.fi/qtek9100.htm ... though their site says it has a 2.1MP camera in the spec even though the picture says 1.3MP :roll:

I can't understand how so many different sites all get the spec wrong and are confusing the consumer. HTC should sort their act out and accurately inform their reseller chain of the correct specs.

so,does bluetooth 2.0(if it really is,not 1.2) means a bluetooth range up to 100 meters?
RAGO :lol:

Just to clarify, if you visit http://www.my-xda.com/xdaminis_spec.html O2 themselves say this comes with Bluetooth 2.0

dgpurvis said:
Yep - not 1.1 or 1.2 - it is the first PDA, and one of the first devices full stop, that has the brand spanking up-to-date version 2.0 of Bluetooth.
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Um... no, it doesn't... sorry... the BT support is lame on the qtek and the range is worthless.
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If you don't know - BT 2.0 is 3 to 10 times faster (3 - 10 Mbps), uses less power, has no lag when connecting multiple devices and is backwardly compatible with BT 1.0 - 1.2 (proper and smaller stereo headsets will be one advantage of this).
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No it isn't. can you please check before you say wrong things? from wikipedia:
wikipedia said:
Bluetooth 2.0
This version is backwards compatible with 1.x. The main enhancement is the introduction of Enhanced Data Rate (EDR) of 2.1 Mbit/s. This has the following effects (Bluetooth SIG, 2004):
* 3 times faster transmission speed (up to 10 times in certain cases).
* Lower power consumption through reduced duty cycle.
* Simplification of multi-link scenarios due to more available bandwidth.
* Further improved BER (Bit error rate) performance.
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A few comments:
if the chip in the device does not support EDR then it is no better than simple BT v1.2
It might say v2.0 on the box, but if it is not WITH EDR then there is no real advantage over v1.2
I am getting speeds ~50KBytes/sec... anyone can give their speeds?[/url]

[Q] How do I get the system to return the currently used Bluetooth audio codec?

Dear XDA code pros,
I have a problem. I am currently programming a simple Android app which is supposed to confirm that an established Bluetooth connection from my phone (Galaxy Note II) to any Bluetooth audio device (e.g. a mobile BT speaker) uses aptX as the A2DP codec. To my knowledge, aptX is chosen automatically when the source as well as the sink are capable of aptX, so there has to be some form of negotiation between these devices when a connection is being established. If one of the devices is not aptX-capable, a lower level codec (such as the mandatory SBC) is used.
With the Android SDK and my basic programming skills I was able to shape an app that would display the desired information. However, I am now stuck at the code where I ask the system for the A2DP codec that is in use. I looked at the A2DP developing reference, but it seems that the information I can get there is very basic. I also found no hint on how to ask the system for this information in any other Bluetooth developer reference.
With the help of this forum, I learned that the information about possible codecs is embedded in the bluez stack, and that the use of aptX can in fact be intercepted by logcat. However, can this information also be extracted by code on a non-rooted stock phone with a simple app?
Any kind of help and hints will be greatly appreciated!!!
Best regards
the Interceptor